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udflyerhoops2 06-29-2017 04:27 PM

Top 144 for 2017-2018
 
It's that time of year again.

Love it or hate it, it's tangible proof that the new season is closing in on us.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/...p-144-previews

Interesting to UD is Washington at #136 with a short mention of Naz and his situation.

tirebiter 06-29-2017 07:39 PM

All right! Here we go again!

I'm predicting mid forties, regardless of my usual expectation of undefeated.

flyhi524 06-29-2017 09:31 PM

Fifty five

springborofan 06-29-2017 10:21 PM

Sixty eight. Too many unknowns to be much higher in my opinion.

hawkoooo 06-30-2017 07:18 AM

Interested to see where Auburn lands and the teams in the Charleston.

San Diego Flyer 06-30-2017 08:50 AM

What difficult job assessing this year's UD ranking. I would be interested in where AG would put his own team. Has to be the most variables we have faced in a long time.

lhsgolf19 06-30-2017 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkoooo (Post 510314)
Interested to see where Auburn lands and the teams in the Charleston.

I have a feeling UD & Auburn will be on opposite sides of the bracket... I think the top 4 "seeds" will be: UD & Temple on side, Auburn & Clemson on the other

EDIT: Oops, I misread the post lol

MNFats 06-30-2017 09:59 AM

And so it begins. #61.

m21eagle45 06-30-2017 10:01 AM

54 with a prediction that we are going to the NIT.

Viperstick 06-30-2017 11:06 AM

#85. We lost a LOT.

IndianaFlyer 06-30-2017 11:15 AM

We get a little respect and come in at #48.

superfan99 06-30-2017 12:23 PM

Let me get this straight. We are not predicting where we think the Flyers will finish this season. We are instead predicting where the Flyers are going to be predicted to finish.

Before I post my answer, does anyone want to predict what I am going to predict that CollegeMadness is going to predict for the Flyers?

FlyerBob 06-30-2017 12:57 PM

I predict that you are going to predict that College Madness predicts us at 49. And your prediction is...?

Cardsflyer 06-30-2017 01:10 PM

OK, I will play #78

Go Flyers

flyerfanatic86 06-30-2017 01:16 PM

69 because lol

Viperstick 06-30-2017 03:13 PM

Mark Fox is done at Georgia if they finish 13th in the SEC.

ud2 06-30-2017 04:56 PM

College Madness prediction...40...NIT

My prediction...50...NIT 3 seed

OSU Flyer 07-01-2017 01:10 AM

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/14870

#133 Hofstra, potential Charleston Classic opponent

TX Flyer 07-01-2017 05:21 AM

43

originally thought 57 but put my ud glasses on to type

ud2 07-02-2017 04:15 PM

And I thought predicting #50 would make me Mr. Pessimistic on this thread. I am the 3rd most optimistic prediction so far, wow.

And CSM needs to get rid of the V16/Vegas 16 stuff, the Vegas 16 event was held in 2016, and it seems like it is not coming back after not being held last year.

djmark 07-02-2017 04:55 PM

551st
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UDGutter2 07-02-2017 06:32 PM

I'll say 7.

OSU Flyer 07-07-2017 12:22 PM

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/14879

Potential Charleston Classic opponent Old Dominion

udflyerhoops2 07-08-2017 12:37 PM


Buckleyma 07-17-2017 10:33 AM

Boy, the pundits are really figuring that LaSalle is really going to miss Jordan Price. I can see why. I thought he was a great confident solid player. I enjoyed watching him play. LaSalle never seemed to be able to put any players around him. This is a concern when a really good player goes to a less high level basketball program. Your kid might just have to carry the load for the whole team. Jordan Price had to do that. Hopefully, Dayton is not in that area of concern and we can recruit top players and multiple top players; so a kid does not have to carry too big of a load, year after year.
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hawkoooo 07-17-2017 11:56 AM

So far potential opponents Hofstra and ODU have made this last along with conference opponent La Salle.

I wonder if Mississippi St. will show up on this. They finished with a #150 RPI, not sure who they return.

ud2 07-25-2017 01:08 PM

George Mason #108...#8 in the A10.


http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/14949

#9 in rebounding margin in the country last year: +7.3.

ud2 08-10-2017 12:28 PM

Mississippi State #92...seems like a winnable road game.

2 brothers, the Weatherspoon brothers, are in the projected starting 5.

Young team, no seniors in the projected starting 5.


http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15014:



Recruiting has always been a strength for Ben Howland and this offseason was no exception. Nick Weatherspoon is the big name in this year’s freshman class. The four-star guard is the brother of Quinndary Weatherspoon, who led the Bulldogs in scoring last season. The two brothers should have no trouble establishing chemistry on the court.

The older Weatherspoon brother, Quinndary, is set to be the leader on this season’s squad. As a sophomore, Weatherspoon scored 16.5 points per game on 46% shooting from the field, including a 37% mark from three. Weatherspoon earned second team All-SEC honors as the seventh leading scorer in the conference.

There will be much more consistency and familiarity this season for Coach Ben Howland’s squad. Even the top incoming player, Nick Weatherspoon, will be playing alongside his brother and All-SEC guard Quinndary Weatherspoon.

Projected Starting Five:
Lamar Peters, Sophomore, Guard, 10.7 points per game
Nick Weatherspoon, Freshman, Guard, DNP last season
Quinndary Weatherspoon, Junior, Guard, 16.5 points per game
Xavian Stapleton, Junior, Forward, 7.0 points per game
Aric Holman, Junior, Center, 8.5 points per game

ud2 08-18-2017 10:04 AM

Davidson #84, #7 in the A10. NIT-bound.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15039

ud2 08-18-2017 10:06 AM

NIT teams started at #86.

Buckleyma 08-18-2017 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ud2 (Post 513029)
Davidson #84, #7 in the A10. NIT-bound.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15039

Ud2: i am surprised that the experts think that there are six teams in the A10 that are better than Davidson. I am pleased to hear that the experts believe that seven teams from the A10 are going to earn either NCAA or NIT bids. I thought this year was going to be a down year for the A10. I thought that many A10 teams lost significantly important players through graduation or transfer. Usually, A10 teams do not re-load quickly like other leagues. So, i expected a down year. There are so many questions about George Washington, Mass, VCU, St. Bona, Lasalle, St. Louis and Dayton.

Maybe, i respect head coac McKillip more than the experts do?
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m21eagle45 08-18-2017 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckleyma (Post 513036)
Ud2: i am surprised that the experts think that there are six teams in the A10 that are better than Davidson. I am pleased to hear that the experts believe that seven teams from the A10 are going to earn either NCAA or NIT bids. I thought this year was going to be a down year for the A10. I thought that many A10 teams lost significantly important players through graduation or transfer. Usually, A10 teams do not re-load quickly like other leagues. So, i expected a down year. There are so many questions about George Washington, Mass, VCU, St. Bona, Lasalle, St. Louis and Dayton.

Maybe, i respect head coac McKillip more than the experts do?
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Davidson lost Gibbs. While they still have Aldridge, they have quite a few questions about who is going to surround him.

I do not understand why you say there are questions around St. Bona. They return the best 2 guards in the league in Mobley and Adams. They should be a top 4 team in the A10 and better than last year.

VCU and SLU will be depending on talented transfers and grad transfers. SLU will be MUCH improved and I would be surprised if VCU dropped off much.

If St. Joe can be healthy, they are a VERY talented team. They gained a bunch of experience when they were battling injuries last year.

Those 4 plus UD and URI should have no problem being better than Davidson in my eyes. Davidson would have to greatly overachieve like they did their first year to crack the top 6 in my opinion.

As far as GW, LaSalle and UMass, if you are depending on them to have a good year for the league, then the A10 is in trouble. They just do not have the consistency of the above teams.

jack72 08-18-2017 02:29 PM

Davidson last year was a two pony show and this year they have one pony.

hawkoooo 08-19-2017 09:33 AM

Davidson being considered the 7th best team in the league has got to be good news. I consider them a program that will always compete whilst McKillop is at the helm. And if there are 6 better teams than the Wildcats this year the A10 should be in **** good shape.

I for one think the A10 will have a better showing this year.

To supplement: they return every double-digit minutes player other than Gibbs, and five of those players are now seniors. That of course includes one of the best players in the A10.

Alberto Strasse 08-19-2017 01:55 PM

I Agree
 
The A-10 should be stronger and the Flyers may be weaker.

Flyer 86 08-19-2017 04:34 PM

I'm gonna guess 71,but they might give us some "historical" cred.

With a healthy Kostas, perhaps we are like 48.

ud2 08-27-2017 01:34 AM

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15064

The Ohio State Buckeyes...#76, #10 in the Big Ten...NIT projection.

ud2 08-30-2017 09:13 AM

Saint Joe's #72, #6 in A10...NIT.


http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15074

Buckleyma 08-30-2017 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ud2 (Post 513674)
Saint Joe's #72, #6 in A10...NIT.


http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15074

So many injuries for St. Joseph last year? I don't want to see any team with so many absences from the court. Therefore, so many questions about where a Martelli team will finish? I have a lot of faith in Martelli. They will be prepared. But, i wonder how good a job their trainers and staff did last year? Is it bad luck with the injuries or bad support by the strength and fitness coach? Do you get injured more often if you not in shape?
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UD62 08-30-2017 09:40 AM

We are probably the next one, possibly two away, from being mentioned. Anything above that is gravy.

ud2 08-30-2017 12:19 PM

I will totally guess:


1. Rhode Island
2. VCU
3. George Mason
4. Dayton
5. Saint Louis
6. Saint Bonaventure
7. Davidson
8. Richmond
9. Saint Joseph's
10. Fordham
11. GW
12. UMass
13. Duquesne
14. LaSalle

jack72 08-30-2017 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ud2 (Post 513695)
I will totally guess:


1. Rhode Island
2. VCU
3. George Mason
4. Dayton
5. Saint Louis
6. Saint Bonaventure
7. Davidson
8. Richmond
9. Saint Joseph's
10. Fordham
11. GW
12. UMass
13. Duquesne
14. LaSalle

Good guess, but I would swap GM and St Joe.

m21eagle45 08-30-2017 03:08 PM

My guess
1. URI
2. St. Bonaventure
3. VCU
4. Dayton
5. St. Joe
6. SLU
7. Davidson
8. Richmond
9. GMU
10. GW
11. UMass
12. Fordham
13. Duquesne
14. Lasalle

Mich Flyer 09-01-2017 05:08 PM

Athlon Magazine
 
Athlon magazine is out and is on the magazine rack at Meijer. They have Dayton finishing fourth and going to the NIT.

1. Rhode Island
2. VCU
3. Saint Bonaventure
4. Dayton

Glen Clark 09-02-2017 02:02 PM

Well, the Flyers are ranked ahead of #69 Syracuse, so there's that.

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UDTradition 09-02-2017 05:28 PM

I'm thankful that we are below 70. What is the next ranking??? 68? Then I predict 68.

UD is so unpredictable that 68 is 20 points higher than I would have guessed.

Kostas is the only reason that UD is in an NIT running. Thanks goodness it looks like he will be playing for UD this/next year.

San Diego Flyer 09-02-2017 05:46 PM

I predict Kostas will show flashes of brilliance, but overall it will be a learning year. Also think our success in post season will decide whether he is at UD another year.

Glen Clark 09-04-2017 05:39 PM

#68: Oklahoma State
#67: Temple

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TX Flyer 09-05-2017 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UDTradition (Post 513874)
I'm thankful that we are below 70. What is the next ranking??? 68? Then I predict 68.

UD is so unpredictable that 68 is 20 points higher than I would have guessed.

Kostas is the only reason that UD is in an NIT running. Thanks goodness it looks like he will be playing for UD this/next year.

Kostas is going to cost us a NCAA birth?

UD62 09-05-2017 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UDTradition (Post 513874)
I'm thankful that we are below 70. What is the next ranking??? 68? Then I predict 68.

UD is so unpredictable that 68 is 20 points higher than I would have guessed.

Kostas is the only reason that UD is in an NIT running. Thanks goodness it looks like he will be playing for UD this/next year.

Believe you are overstating the situation a wee bit.

Glen Clark 09-05-2017 10:28 PM

#66: Vanderbilt

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San Diego Flyer 09-06-2017 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UD62 (Post 513948)
Believe you are overstating the situation a wee bit.

When I look at who we lost since April, I think you are wrong.

When I look at what we have coming in, potentially I think you are right. That "P' word looms large this season.

I'm just not sure that Kostas' name isn't buying us about 10 slots in this countdown.

jack72 09-06-2017 10:15 AM

The good news is Kostas is buying us hype. The bad news is he has not played, and I will believe the hype when I see it.

UD62 09-06-2017 10:21 AM

VCU in at #65.

Flyers98 09-06-2017 12:34 PM

God forbid we are over ranked in a meaningless preseason countdown. I think we will be OK this year. I am not counting on Kostas to come in and dominate the world like some are but if he does, even better.

Buckleyma 09-08-2017 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UD62 (Post 513995)
VCU in at #65.

Tillman is terrific. Last year, he played like a man among boys. He has improved dramatically. When he was a freshman, he basically got very little play-time. I thought he had a terrible attitude. I was convinced that he would transfer out of VCU. But last year, he played great. I wondered why he didn't score even more points? But, actually, he has a bit of a limited skill set. But, he makes the most of it. I think Xeryius Williams will get the defensive assignmant on Tillman. This match-up will be great fun to watch. I have positive hopes for an improved Xeryius Williams, this year.
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San Diego Flyer 09-08-2017 09:27 AM

These numbers don't lie
 
VCU lost 69% of their scoring to graduation and/or transfers (Samir Doughty).

Dayton lost 81% of it's scoring to graduation, injury, and stupidity.

Both teams have a new Head Coach and Staff.

I think we need to brace ourselves for a possible major gulp of reality.

Flyer69ers 09-08-2017 10:57 AM

I'm hoping our Dayton Flyers are "young, scrappy and hungry" ~ (Hamilton)

ruechalgrin 09-09-2017 05:35 PM

Dayton will be in the top 144. Since 2002 when kenpom started, Dayton has been a top 144 team every single year and in fact top 100 team 12/15 years; and top 50 team 6/15 years. During this time we had OP, BG, and AM as coaches.

UD will be a top 144 team during the 2017-2018 season. Expect Dayton to come in very soon to this pre-season ranking.

San Diego Flyer 09-09-2017 08:39 PM

Just in case my post above may have misled someone. Not for a minute did I ever think we would not be forecasted in the top 144. There are plenty of Flyer puff articles + a string of NCAA appearances to make the case for maybe as good as #50. I just think we will have a major task living up to a ranking that is laced with hype. And having to replace over 80% of our scoring is the reason.

Gilchrist's Autograph 2 09-09-2017 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyer69ers (Post 514081)
I'm hoping our Dayton Flyers are "young, scrappy and hungry" ~ (Hamilton)

Not throwin' away my -shot!
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Mich Flyer 09-11-2017 08:05 PM

Lindy's 2017 Basketball Magazine
 
Lindy's 2017 Basketball Magazine.

Predictions:

1. Rhode Island

2. Saint Bonaventure

3. Saint Louis

4. Saint Joseph

5. VCU

6. Dayton

They pick recruit Jordan Davis as the best shooter.

Flyer'95 09-11-2017 09:21 PM

It does seem crazy that they might have us ranked this high. We have an unproven and somewhat erratic junior PG, a freshman backup pg. We have an off guard who has become a good defender, but not a great finisher and has lost confidence in his shooting over his three years here. Probably our best returning scorer (XW) has never been the center of anyone's attention. That will change this year. And josh cunningham obviously has potential to be a great weapon but still haven't seen him return to form yet since his injury.

We lost an unsung and experienced glue guy in Mikesell and have an unproven and injured PF in Kostas, and a ton of unproven newbies. Plus a new coaching staff with what will most likely be a lot of new sets and principles. Seems like a pretty thin premise for a top 60 team. I hope i'm wrong. I think this year we rebuild. But next year we'll be strong again. That's ok. I'm looking forward to all the new kids and watching them develop.

Glen Clark 09-11-2017 11:19 PM

Into the fifties . . .
 
64: Vermont
63: Iowa State
62: Wisconsin
61: W Kentucky
60: NC State

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Buckleyma 09-12-2017 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyer'95 (Post 514245)
It does seem crazy that they might have us ranked this high. We have an unproven and somewhat erratic junior PG, a freshman backup pg. We have an off guard who has become a good defender, but not a great finisher and has lost confidence in his shooting over his three years here. Probably our best returning scorer (XW) has never been the center of anyone's attention. That will change this year. And josh cunningham obviously has potential to be a great weapon but still haven't seen him return to form yet since his injury.

We lost an unsung and experienced glue guy in Mikesell and have an unproven and injured PF in Kostas, and a ton of unproven newbies. Plus a new coaching staff with what will most likely be a lot of new sets and principles. Seems like a pretty thin premise for a top 60 team. I hope i'm wrong. I think this year we rebuild. But next year we'll be strong again. That's ok. I'm looking forward to all the new kids and watching them develop.

Flyer95: Don't sound so hopeless. Reality will set in soon enough. Shhhh...don't wake us up, yet. Its only September. I am still dreaming that Xeryius Williams has a great year, Svoboda is much better than expected, Kostas is as good as we hoped, Cunningham plays like a man among boys, Crosby matures in front of our eyes into a stable pg and scores more points, Davis finds his shooting touch that he had as a freshman except better, Pierce loses his baby fat and the fitness guru has him playing better than he has ever thought to play, Toppin shows flashes of athletic brilliance and Crutcher starts out like a typical freshman but by A10 tournament time, he has it figured out and is solid. Oh and before I wake-up, Grant gets coach of the year in the A10 conference.
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frisco flyer 09-12-2017 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckleyma (Post 514253)
Flyer95: Don't sound so hopeless. Reality will set in soon enough. Shhhh...don't wake us up, yet. Its only September. I am still dreaming that Xeryius Williams has a great year, Svoboda is much better than expected, Kostas is as good as we hoped, Cunningham plays like a man among boys, Crosby matures in front of our eyes into a stable pg and scores more points, Davis finds his shooting touch that he had as a freshman except better, Pierce loses his baby fat and the fitness guru has him playing better than he has ever thought to play, Toppin shows flashes of athletic brilliance and Crutcher starts out like a typical freshman but by A10 tournament time, he has it figured out and is solid. Oh and before I wake-up, Grant gets coach of the year in the A10 conference.
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The first realistically conservative post in this entire thread! I'm right there with you Buckleyma.

jack72 09-12-2017 09:40 AM

12:30 AM. You guys need to stop drinking and go to bed.
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Glen Clark 09-12-2017 12:09 PM

#59: Auburn

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NorthwestFlyer 09-13-2017 05:14 PM

#58 St. Louis. http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15105

Which puts us in the top 3 of the A10... or possibly near the bottom?

hawkoooo 09-14-2017 08:21 AM

I can't help but think that this list was comprised prior to the news of Mikesell's redshirt and Sam Miller's suspension.

San Diego Flyer 09-14-2017 09:24 AM

I think you are probably correct. But I doubt it made any difference.

I don't believe the statistical output of those two players is that difficult to replace, except for the possible upside and maturity of Ryan. One could argue that losing Sam is addition by subtraction.

Players like Kostas, Obadiah, Landers and Matej and Jordan Pierce will simply get more development minutes.

OSU Flyer 09-14-2017 09:45 AM

I'm gonna guess this guy's projection rests on Dayton having the best frontcourt in the A10. He must like how Cunningham, X & Kostas project out. He must think KA is one the top newcomers in the conference

hawkoooo 09-14-2017 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer (Post 514438)
I think you are probably correct. But I doubt it made any difference.

I don't believe the statistical output of those two players is that difficult to replace, except for the possible upside and maturity of Ryan. One could argue that losing Sam is addition by subtraction.

Players like Kostas, Obadiah, Landers and Matej and Jordan Pierce will simply get more development minutes.

Sure, but from an outsider's perspective, or maybe if you're just looking at this "by the numbers", that is a loss of over 30 minutes per game. And that number is assuming those two don't get any more minutes this year (unlikely). Losing two juniors with post-season experience cannot look good to an outsider.

Let me put it to you in a different way: assume for a second that Mikesell is completely healthy right now and Miller's adventures that night never take place. Might you not think a little differently about our prospects?

ud2 09-14-2017 10:38 AM

UConn #57...not good for Kevin Ollie

San Diego Flyer 09-14-2017 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkoooo (Post 514444)
Sure, but from an outsider's perspective, or maybe if you're just looking at this "by the numbers", that is a loss of over 30 minutes per game. And that number is assuming those two don't get any more minutes this year (unlikely). Losing two juniors with post-season experience cannot look good to an outsider.

Let me put it to you in a different way: assume for a second that Mikesell is completely healthy right now and Miller's adventures that night never take place. Might you not think a little differently about our prospects?

I understand your point, but no, I think Miller was Pi**ing away a modest career. Mikesell's contribution would be stability through the ooc. But without better numbers he could be challenged for minutes. Ryan was predictable on the court, but his productivity in his minutes played was not irreplaceable.

I would add that I hope Ryan comes out of this a healthy player and goes on to make his mark on his Flyer career. He might help us in the long run. I hope Sam finds his place in the world and has a productive life.

CE80 09-14-2017 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer (Post 514472)
I understand your point, but no, I think Miller was Pi**ing away a modest career. Mikesell's contribution would be stability through the ooc. But without better numbers he could be challenged for minutes. Ryan was predictable on the court, but his productivity in his minutes played was not irreplaceable.

Wasn't it on a downward trend? Didn't XW take his starting spot and most of his minutes?

San Diego Flyer 09-14-2017 03:48 PM

Pretty much a steady decline from mid-season on. In fact so severe of a drop off I have to believe his hips were killing him.

Gazoo 09-14-2017 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer (Post 514472)
I understand your point, but no, I think Miller was Pi**ing away a modest career. Mikesell's contribution would be stability through the ooc. But without better numbers he could be challenged for minutes. Ryan was predictable on the court, but his productivity in his minutes played was not irreplaceable.

I would add that I hope Ryan comes out of this a healthy player and goes on to make his mark on his Flyer career. He might help us in the long run. I hope Sam finds his place in the world and has a productive life.

His (Ryan) freshman and sophomore minutes were not irreplaceable. But the junior season is often when players hit their stride. Imagine if we wrote off every player after their sophomore season who was just "meh".

Medford 09-15-2017 09:39 AM

^^^

"WE" do, thankfully guys like Devin Oliver remind us that a basketball career is longer than a couple of seasons.

Lifelong Flyer Fan 09-15-2017 09:44 AM

#56 San Diego St

Viperstick 09-15-2017 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ud2 (Post 514449)
UConn #57...not good for Kevin Ollie

Agreed. He could find himself collecting unemployment with Mark Fox at the end of the season.

ud2 09-16-2017 01:50 PM

Archie and Indiana check in at #55...NIT.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15110:



Miller loses three top players from last year’s team, but will have enough talent to compete for an NCAA Tournament bid in year one.

Archie Miller turned Dayton into a mainstay in the NCAA Tournament, and he shouldn’t have an issue getting a historic program like Indiana back there. However, getting them to go dancing in his first season at the helm could be difficult in the strong Big Ten.

BRob2Perryman3 09-16-2017 03:46 PM

Who is this Arthur Milton they refer too? I've heard of Ray Harper but who is this guy?

MNFats 09-16-2017 09:05 PM

Here's a thought. If SLU is 4th - then who is the top 3? URI is up there for sure. With their guards I would think the Bonnies are up there. I would think Richmond will be better than some of the teams already listed.

Either way - only 3 of UD, URI, Bonnies, and Richmond can make this list.

Richmond is the likely team to be left off, but what if it's us!?!?!

FYI - all 4 of those teams are better than La Salle and and George Mason

shwag33 09-16-2017 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNFats (Post 514618)
Here's a thought. If SLU is 4th - then who is the top 3? URI is up there for sure. With their guards I would think the Bonnies are up there. I would think Richmond will be better than some of the teams already listed.

Either way - only 3 of UD, URI, Bonnies, and Richmond can make this list.

Richmond is the likely team to be left off, but what if it's us!?!?!

FYI - all 4 of those teams are better than La Salle and and George Mason


Richmond lost Cline who pretty much was their team. Also lost their 2nd leading scorer.

ud2 09-17-2017 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNFats (Post 514618)
Here's a thought. If SLU is 4th - then who is the top 3? URI is up there for sure. With their guards I would think the Bonnies are up there. I would think Richmond will be better than some of the teams already listed.

Either way - only 3 of UD, URI, Bonnies, and Richmond can make this list.

Richmond is the likely team to be left off, but what if it's us!?!?!

FYI - all 4 of those teams are better than La Salle and and George Mason

We are definitely in the top 3, Richmond is definitely not in the top 3. We are either #2 or #3, URI will be #1. Bonnie's will be #2 or #3. You can take that to the bank.

MNFats 09-17-2017 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ud2 (Post 514622)
We are definitely in the top 3, Richmond is definitely not in the top 3. We are either #2 or #3, URI will be #1. Bonnie's will be #2 or #3. You can take that to the bank.

I would tend to agree with you - just saying there are some that don't see a large gap between us and Richmond. One of us will be very surprised to not be in the top 9 of these rankings.

http://www.a10talk.com/ranking-atlan...on-shoe-brand/

Glen Clark 09-17-2017 11:30 PM

#54: Georgia Tech

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Marysville Flyer 09-18-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MNFats (Post 514627)
I would tend to agree with you - just saying there are some that don't see a large gap between us and Richmond. One of us will be very surprised to not be in the top 9 of these rankings.

http://www.a10talk.com/ranking-atlan...on-shoe-brand/

The article you attached is consistent with the sentiment that it has to be Richmond that is left out. They have UD in the second tier which is 3-4, and Richmond in the 3rd tier with 4 other teams so anywhere between 5-9 so they at least would be surprised if Ricmond is in and UD is out.
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m21eagle45 09-18-2017 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by m21eagle45 (Post 510331)
54 with a prediction that we are going to the NIT.

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Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan (Post 514656)

Dang, 1 off and predicted the 3 letter tourney instead of the 4.

Buckleyma 09-19-2017 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan (Post 514656)

Positive quotes from the article are: 1) "this could be the best front court in the Atlantic 10" and 2) "Dayton can reload in a hurry and by the time conference play rolls around, the Flyers will be a tough team to beat."

Negative quotes from the article are: 1) "With their top three scorers gone, Dayton has some huge holes to fill.", and 2) "The bigger issues are in the back court."
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San Diego Flyer 09-19-2017 05:49 PM

They need to update with today's news, ie., we are losing big men at the rate of 1/month. Keep that up and we will HAVE to reload just to show up for Conference.

jack72 09-19-2017 08:00 PM

I, and most of us, will probably take a #53 finish in the RPI and an NIT. Anything more this year is gravy.

rollo 09-20-2017 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jack72 (Post 514753)
I, and most of us, will probably take a #53 finish in the RPI and an NIT. Anything more this year is gravy.

Please pass the gravy. :beermug:

jpk4ud 09-20-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan (Post 514656)

For this to come true this team will have to do three things better than last year:

Rebound better
Better 3fg%
Better FT%

Mich Flyer 09-20-2017 06:11 PM

Street and Smith College Basketball Review
 
1. Rhode Island

2. Saint Louis

3. Saint Bonaventure

4. VCU

8. Dayton

ud2 09-20-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mich Flyer (Post 514808)
1. Rhode Island

2. Saint Louis

3. Saint Bonaventure

4. VCU

8. Dayton

Eew. Ouch.

ud2 09-28-2017 08:32 PM

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15139

Bonnie's #43...#2 in A10...NCAAT.

First NCAAT team was #46.

ud2 10-09-2017 10:23 AM

Rhode Island #32, #1 in the A10. Rhode Island is finally able to reach the NCAAT this year(most likely)and last year, after failing to reach the NCAAT under Jim Baron.

Dan Hurley is already a hot commodity.

Mark Schmidt at SBU is also probably a hot commodity already.


http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/15209


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