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lhsgolf19 02-14-2016 03:04 PM

Saint Joseph's Game Thread
 
If we can win in Kingston and break the curse without Kendall Pollard, we can go into Philly and beat likely the 2nd best team in the A10 who has had our number recently... Let's take command of the conference with a victory on Wednesday!

Game is at 6 PM on Wednesday and will be shown on the CBS Sports Network

Starting Lineup:
G 1 Shavar Newkirk 6’0” 175 SO New York, NY
G 2 Aaron Brown 6’5” 223 SR Darby, PA
F 43 DeAndre’ Bembry 6’6” 210 JR Charlotte, NC
F 15 Isaiah Miles 6’7” 216 SR Baltimore, MD
F 24 Pierfrancesco Oliva 6’8” 207 FR Taranto, Italy

Bembry and Miles are having awesome years... both playing at 1st Team All-A10 level... We must contain them! I suspect Cooke & Pierre to be on both.

Let's hope #25 is ready to play!

I Believe! Go UD!

DGO67 02-14-2016 06:01 PM

Vegas should open Hawks minus 1.

Flyer Al 02-14-2016 09:40 PM

UD and St Joe's got a plug from Jim Nantz during the Pebble Beach Pro-AM today. Thought that was kind of neat. I am not enjoying the 6PM start time. I am guessing this was to accommodate for TV.

redbengal 02-15-2016 12:57 AM

St. Joe's game should be the final Wednesday game of the season for the Flyers. 2 more Tuesday games in the regular season but no more Wednesday affairs. Won't have to play Wednesday (or Thursday) in the A10 Tourney. And no Wednesday games in the NCAA Tourney unless the Selection Committe decides to pull an even bigger crime than last year. Would need a bad stumble down the stretch for that to even be a remote possibility though. Can't even think about scenarios worse than that.

ruechalgrin 02-15-2016 01:15 AM

According to kenpom, St. Joe's wins 65% of the time this game winning 72-68. Sagarin predictor says St. Joe's wins 56% and by 1.6 points.

Statically much much more difficult to beat @ St. Joe's #35 (kenpom) than beating Villanova, Kansas, or Oklahoma at UD Arena. In fact statically equivalent beating #70 @St. Bonnie's as beating Villanova, etc. at UD Arena.

Tough game for Dayton. I will not be upset if UD loses.

rollo 02-16-2016 01:23 PM


Radar 02-16-2016 02:30 PM

That's a dumb photo.

rollo 02-16-2016 02:59 PM

is this one smarter?
 

Radar 02-16-2016 03:55 PM

of course! too bad she's Atlanta Hawks cheerleader!

rollo 02-16-2016 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar (Post 442928)
of course! too bad she's Atlanta Hawks cheerleader!

An A10 blogger included it in an assessment of St. Joe's so I figured it was close enough.

CE80 02-16-2016 04:05 PM

I'd keep my wings flapping for that.

BRob2Perryman3 02-16-2016 10:53 PM

Man alive, thats Big 12 or SEC quality cheerleader there.

Glen Clark 02-17-2016 09:57 AM

ESPN preview
 
Dayton-Saint Joseph's Preview:

http://espn.go.com/ncb/preview?gameId=400840996

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lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 11:35 AM

Larry Hansgen ‏@larryhansgen 1m1 minute ago

Best word to describe @DaytonTrueTeam shoot around: Focused

Go break another streak!

dnutz77 02-17-2016 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyer Al (Post 442533)
UD and St Joe's got a plug from Jim Nantz during the Pebble Beach Pro-AM today. Thought that was kind of neat. I am not enjoying the 6PM start time. I am guessing this was to accommodate for TV.

Me2. I can go to bed at 2 AM instead of 3 AM (Germany)!

Swampy Meadows 02-17-2016 12:15 PM

Another tweet from Larry regarding Charles Cooke:

Larry Hansgen
‏@larryhansgen:
he's practicing right now

BRob2Perryman3 02-17-2016 02:39 PM

March feel to tonights game. While I still consider Joe's to be a bit of a paper tiger I think this is a clash of 2 of the 3 titans in this league. Need Steve to show up,Charles to score in bunches, Scoochie to be a solid floor general with no more then 2 turnovers, Dyshawn to be Dyshawn and make the free throws. Let Bembry and Miles get theirs and shut down everyone else.

TA111 02-17-2016 03:00 PM

Key to tonight's game is TO's. Can't have more than 12 turnovers. Value the ball.

DGO67 02-17-2016 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TA111 (Post 443105)
Key to tonight's game is TO's. Can't have more than 12 turnovers. Value the ball.

You can't paint all turnovers with the same brush! The easiest category of turnovers that can be minimized is traveling.
Ball movement with the objective of creating space for a shot or penetration
comes with a greater risk of turnover, but increases scoring potential. I assume by "value the ball," you are referring to getting one's pocket picked or losing the handle. Totally agree!

lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 05:53 PM

Probably smart but no Kendall tonight

David Jablonski ‏@DavidPJablonski 2m2 minutes ago Philadelphia, PA

Kendall Pollard will not play tonight for @DaytonMBB. Archie told Larry Hansgen in pregame interview.

CE80 02-17-2016 06:05 PM

Bummer.

udx2 02-17-2016 07:02 PM

Hoping to see Pollard in even if for a limited time tonight. Could use his strength.

lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by udx2 (Post 443143)
Hoping to see Pollard in even if for a limited time tonight. Could use his strength.

He's not even dressed, not playing

C-time 02-17-2016 07:08 PM

And there's a timeout that I'm pretty sure is to yank Kyle Davis.

Edit: He has not come out ready to play for the last 2 or 3 games.

SLUFLYER 02-17-2016 07:08 PM

What was that foul on Miller? Seemed like BS.

lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 07:09 PM

quick 6-0 lead for SJU... Baby D in early for KD

C-time 02-17-2016 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER (Post 443147)
What was that foul on Miller? Seemed like BS.

Lowered a shoulder trying to make a post move. It was a charge.

lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 07:12 PM

11-9 SJU with 15:30 left

DGO67 02-17-2016 07:14 PM

Excellent Flyer penetration, but mediocre finish....keep the foot on the peddle.

C-time 02-17-2016 07:15 PM

We've got a good matchup for Sam Miller tonight with Oliva.

C-time 02-17-2016 07:16 PM

Not a good sign for Darrell. Misses first 2 wide open 3s

BigMacFlyer 02-17-2016 07:17 PM

Baby D short arming it and Cooke hits back to back long shots

lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 07:20 PM

20-19 UD with 11 min left... Miles just got his 2nd foul

BigMacFlyer 02-17-2016 07:20 PM

Would be up by 10 if we could hit some layups

C-time 02-17-2016 07:20 PM

This game is being played at a high pace. Archie about to send in 4 guys including Mikesell.

DGO67 02-17-2016 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMacFlyer (Post 443156)
Would be up by 10 if we could hit some layups

word!

T-Bone 84 02-17-2016 07:22 PM

Cooke on fire tonight. Good thing. Everyone else is as cold as Rochester was last weekend.
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TA111 02-17-2016 07:22 PM

We are getting to the rim at will but can't make a lay up.

udx2 02-17-2016 07:23 PM

Mikesell in.

DGO67 02-17-2016 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TA111 (Post 443160)
We are getting to the rim at will but can't make a lay up.

word!

jack72 02-17-2016 07:27 PM

What is this frickin lineup?

C-time 02-17-2016 07:28 PM

We are building a house from the 3 point line.

rollo 02-17-2016 07:28 PM

We're lucky they're 1/5 on FTs.

lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 07:29 PM

25-22 SJU with 7:15 left

jack72 02-17-2016 07:29 PM

Kyle with another terrible defensive first half.

Smitty10 02-17-2016 07:29 PM

The more excited Crosby is when he gets in game, the less effective he is. Needs to calm it down.

ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 07:29 PM

we will not win this game if Dayton is called for 2x the fouls. 6 fouls on Dayton and 3 on St. Joe's with 7:18 to go ...

Illegal Screen on Sam was so weak; Big Steve got all ball.

Phi Psi Flyer '09 02-17-2016 07:31 PM

7-0 on free throws. Life on the road.
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UDEE79 02-17-2016 07:35 PM

This floor is a disgrace it is so slippery.

BigMacFlyer 02-17-2016 07:35 PM

Dyshawn ends the drought

C-time 02-17-2016 07:35 PM

Pierre and Cooke trying to do everything. Somebody has to step up and help.
I don't think Pierre has been out at all.

lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 07:35 PM

29-24 SJU with 3:50 left

TrueTeam 02-17-2016 07:36 PM

The 2-3 is killing us. No one can make a wide open 3 in the past 10 minutes.

T-Bone 84 02-17-2016 07:36 PM

Wehrli in. Archie's looking for answers inside. Only Pierrre is able to do anything inside at this point
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Smitty10 02-17-2016 07:36 PM

DP needs to settle it down a little. Doing too much dribbling.

ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 07:37 PM

We are playing poorly, but not getting any calls. Shooting foul on the last one? Yes, but than Pierre's was shooting as well.

jack72 02-17-2016 07:37 PM

We have to get the ball inside. 2-10 on threes is not going to get easier if we don't.

T-Bone 84 02-17-2016 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UDEE79 (Post 443171)
This floor is a disgrace it is so slippery.

You'd think there was an ice rink under there.
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priceg75 02-17-2016 07:38 PM

If we shoot 20% from 3 for the game, we'll lose. Unless we stop now and don't take any more.

jack72 02-17-2016 07:38 PM

D Davis is 1-6, so much for the comeback.

Alberto Strasse 02-17-2016 07:39 PM

Look Who He is Guarding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jack72 (Post 443167)
Kyle with another terrible defensive first half.

an NBA draft pick Bembry!

C-time 02-17-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueTeam (Post 443175)
The 2-3 is killing us. No one can make a wide open 3 in the past 10 minutes.

St. Joes has not played any 2-3 the whole game.

ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 07:40 PM

Archie just complained to the official asking how was that not a block when Schoochie drove.

BigMacFlyer 02-17-2016 07:40 PM

Need Scoochie to play better

ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 07:41 PM

Brambly two hand shove of Cooke who had position for the offensive rebound. Then cooke called for reach. Seriously. Just replayed it.

Ball don't lie on the miss of the 1/1.

TrueTeam 02-17-2016 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-time (Post 443184)
St. Joes has not played any 2-3 the whole game.

They have played it a couple of possessions.

Alberto Strasse 02-17-2016 07:42 PM

Scoochie
 
Bad Scoochie showed up tonight!

T-Bone 84 02-17-2016 07:42 PM

Somebody get Scoochie some shoes with some tread on them!
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priceg75 02-17-2016 07:42 PM

This is starting to feel like one of those games we just burn the tape of.

ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 07:43 PM

Just playing awful, sigh.

ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 07:45 PM

Why not take Mikesell out and put Williams in for last 22 seconds??!?!?!?

come on coaches.

SLUFLYER 02-17-2016 07:46 PM

No free throws through 19 minutes? How is that possible, as aggressive as SJU plays????

T-Bone 84 02-17-2016 07:46 PM

StJ finally with 7 fouls, but if you're shooting 3s all night, you won't draw a lot of fouls.
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Alberto Strasse 02-17-2016 07:48 PM

Because Dayton
 
needs points and Mikesell can hit a three while Williams can merely shoot the three.

T-Bone 84 02-17-2016 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER (Post 443194)
No free throws through 19 minutes? How is that possible, as aggressive as SJU plays????

(A) Too many 3s and (B) swallowed whistles.
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lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 07:48 PM

36-27 at the half

udx2 02-17-2016 07:49 PM

St Joe's won the first half. There is another one to play and we can do this.

TrueTeam 02-17-2016 07:49 PM

Could be worse. Need to cut down on fouls (though some were bogus I have to say) and and an offense there have been some odd turnovers where they just lose ball, slip, etc.

TerryK_67 02-17-2016 07:51 PM

Gonna be hard to win when the refs won't let you play any defense, and the other team can do whatever they want....

ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 07:52 PM

2/13 from 3 or 15% not going to get it done. Dayton +1 on rebounds, but -3 on turnovers so -2 possessions; shooting horribly.

When drive not getting the calls whereas St. Joe's is.

Floor is awful. I would't take the court in the 2H if it is as bad as it appears on tv.

Only down -9 with horrible shooting, bad turnovers, and not getting a call = not as bad as it could be.

jack72 02-17-2016 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruechalgrin (Post 443193)
Why not take Mikesell out and put Williams in for last 22 seconds??!?!?!?

come on coaches.

No Cooke, no Pollard, no Steve, no Sam. We tried to compete the last 8 minutes with the likes of Mikesell, Wehrli; and Kyle guarding Bembry, and no offensive presence under the basket aside from Pierre. That group will not get it done on either end.

Smitty10 02-17-2016 07:53 PM

More quick passing, less dribbling, hope Steve can stay out of Foul trouble because he is the key to this game. With KP available, we wouldn't have had to go to BW for that many minutes. BW in the game is not good sign this early. Hope Archie has some effective half time adjustments to get our transition game going.

Smitty10 02-17-2016 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack72 (Post 443203)
No Cooke, no Pollard, no Steve, no Sam. We tried to compete the last 8 minutes with the likes of Mikesell, Wehrli; and Kyle guarding Bembry, and no offensive presence under the basket aside from Pierre. That group will not get it done on either end.

If nothing else, put XW in the game to at least foul Bembry. I'd rather see him at the FT line than putting up easy FGs(for him).

T-Bone 84 02-17-2016 07:58 PM

I don't know if Steve is THE key to the game, but we need an inside presence in the 2nd half, and he's the most likely candidate with Kendall on the DL tonight.
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ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse (Post 443196)
needs points and Mikesell can hit a three while Williams can merely shoot the three.

Alberto, weak response.

22 seconds left (as my post stated) and St. Joe's has the ball holding for the last shot. Why again is Mikesell in and not Williams? Nothing to do with shooting ....

Sea Bass 02-17-2016 08:00 PM

missing Kendall as SJ is forcing the Flyers to make plays off the bounce, an area that Kendall excels. Need to create some offense with defense.

jack72 02-17-2016 08:01 PM

At 8:37 we were up 20-19, then Archie subbed the likes of Crosby and Mikesell and we lost the lead and were outscored 17-7. Seven points in almost 12 minutes.

We miss Pollard for his inside game and for the fouls he could give.

jack72 02-17-2016 08:03 PM

That was as bad a 10 minutes as we have played this year.

Donniex3Era 02-17-2016 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack72 (Post 443210)
At 8:37 we were up 20-19, then Archie subbed the likes of Crosby and Mikesell and we lost the lead and were outscored 17-7. Seven points in almost 12 minutes.

We miss Pollard for his inside game and for the fouls he could give.

We miss Pollard for his toughness

CoffeeCan 02-17-2016 08:06 PM

Halftime Adjustment:

Switch to the 3/4 inch cleats to deal with the terrible turf conditions. Lots of sliding around.

C-time 02-17-2016 08:10 PM

The Scoochie circus layups he hit at Rhody are not even close tonight.

Flyer1995 02-17-2016 08:11 PM

On the verge of them pushing this out too far...gotta get this back within ten and chip away from there...offense has to get something going!

ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-time (Post 443216)
The Scoochie circus layups he hit at Rhody are not even close tonight.

Needs to go strong to the bucket and if contact, then circus.

We get down 15 and over. Need to score here.

They are shooting 13/23 from 2. Need to put Big Steve in now.

Smitty10 02-17-2016 08:11 PM

This team is not playing for the good shot. Not enough passing of the ball. KD gives us a little momentum and then gives it back.

dnutz77 02-17-2016 08:11 PM

Playing as bad as they have all season. Completely out of sync on both ends. Need to use ball movement on offense rather than trying to do too much with the dribble. U-G-L-Y
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jack72 02-17-2016 08:12 PM

Other than the three, Scoochie has been terrible.

Smitty10 02-17-2016 08:14 PM

Get big steve back in game yesterday

lhsgolf19 02-17-2016 08:14 PM

44-34 with 15:50 left

ruechalgrin 02-17-2016 08:15 PM

Not boxing out and going after rebound, serious lack of effort ...

How is Big Steve not in the game.

jack72 02-17-2016 08:15 PM

No attempt by Scooch to block out on that rebound even with inside position.


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