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OregonMike 03-26-2019 06:53 PM

McNeil
 
I just searched 247 sports on McNeil. He has several offers, including my other team. 247 shows him having no interest in UD. Do we have a realistic shot at him?

bigudfan 03-26-2019 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OregonMike (Post 582407)
I just searched 247 sports on McNeil. He has several offers, including my other team. 247 shows him having no interest in UD. Do we have a realistic shot at him?

I believe he just came out and said Dayton was in his top 6.

TX Flyer 03-26-2019 07:29 PM

No interest in Dayton? Check back Thursday and see where he says he is going

UD62 03-26-2019 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OregonMike (Post 582407)
I just searched 247 sports on McNeil. He has several offers, including my other team. 247 shows him having no interest in UD. Do we have a realistic shot at him?

Thank goodness 247 doesn't call the shots. They no not of which they speak. In other words they are full of c**p.

momszer 03-26-2019 07:39 PM

Twitter Feed Top 6
 

EliteEight 03-26-2019 07:51 PM

Getting an official this soon after opening up a scholly is huge. Makes me think the wheels have been turning on JD and McNeil news for awhile.

Marysville Flyer 03-26-2019 08:02 PM

Taking an official visit to UD when you are a cab ride away seems to indicate something to me.
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SLUFLYER 03-26-2019 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ortez52 (Post 582417)
McNeill is on campus Today and wed for a official visit .No interest I guess LOL.

I like the sound of this!!!

CvilleFlyer 03-26-2019 10:24 PM

Two other 3 point sharpshooters in college both played from 2007-2011 for two different teams. Jon Diebler for Ohio State and Jimmer Fredette for BYU. Sean McNeil could be better than both of them! Diebler a 6'6" SG shot 29% on 3's as a freshman, 42% as a soph. and jr. and 50% as a senior. Fredette a 6'2" SG shot 34% on 3's as a freshman, 38% as a soph, 44% as a jr. and 40% as a senior.

The thought of seeing Sean McNeil in a Flyer uniform is something we will have to wait and see but every time I watch his you tube videos I have never seen such a pure shooter! Many of his shots are 5-7 feet behind the three point line and you can almost tell when he releases the ball that it is going in!

Donald Smith was the last pure shooter for the Flyers that I can remember. There was no defense for his step back fade away jump shot from any distance.

C-time 03-26-2019 11:29 PM

UD needs HOT BOY!

steve 03-27-2019 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer (Post 582441)
Two other 3 point sharpshooters in college both played from 2007-2011 for two different teams. Jon Diebler for Ohio State and Jimmer Fredette for BYU. Sean McNeil could be better than both of them! Diebler a 6'6" SG shot 29% on 3's as a freshman, 42% as a soph. and jr. and 50% as a senior. Fredette a 6'2" SG shot 34% on 3's as a freshman, 38% as a soph, 44% as a jr. and 40% as a senior.

The thought of seeing Sean McNeil in a Flyer uniform is something we will have to wait and see but every time I watch his you tube videos I have never seen such a pure shooter! Many of his shots are 5-7 feet behind the three point line and you can almost tell when he releases the ball that it is going in!

Donald Smith was the last pure shooter for the Flyers that I can remember. There was no defense for his step back fade away jump shot from any distance.

I'd cool the Jets a bit on any talk of being better than them mainly Ferdette. I'd love to see him just be able to blend in nicely with the team and be that consistent knock down shooter they've not had in several years.

T-Bone 84 03-27-2019 12:22 AM

Would love to have him here, especially given Jordan’s transfer. If he wants to play close to home, in a big-time atmosphere where Hoops rule, take an awesome road trip every Thanksgiving, and play for a coach who has a national championship ring and coached guys who “made it” in the NBA, then his choice is pretty clear.
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SeasonTicketFan 03-27-2019 08:42 AM

I hope the hype is not too much.

shwag33 03-27-2019 08:59 AM

Maybe I missed it, I know he's been great at sinclair, but what did he do before that? Why was he already not at a D1 school?

CT Flyer 03-27-2019 09:05 AM

The Jimmer was a whole lot more than a sharp shooter in college.

Buster Goode 03-27-2019 09:07 AM

I think rollo will like his gf

NCkevi 03-27-2019 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shwag33 (Post 582467)
Maybe I missed it, I know he's been great at sinclair, but what did he do before that? Why was he already not at a D1 school?

https://www.wcpo.com/sports/high-sch...f-perseverance

Lowd&ProUD 03-27-2019 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer (Post 582441)
Two other 3 point sharpshooters in college both played from 2007-2011 for two different teams. Jon Diebler for Ohio State and Jimmer Fredette for BYU. Sean McNeil could be better than both of them! Diebler a 6'6" SG shot 29% on 3's as a freshman, 42% as a soph. and jr. and 50% as a senior. Fredette a 6'2" SG shot 34% on 3's as a freshman, 38% as a soph, 44% as a jr. and 40% as a senior.

The thought of seeing Sean McNeil in a Flyer uniform is something we will have to wait and see but every time I watch his you tube videos I have never seen such a pure shooter! Many of his shots are 5-7 feet behind the three point line and you can almost tell when he releases the ball that it is going in!

Donald Smith was the last pure shooter for the Flyers that I can remember. There was no defense for his step back fade away jump shot from any distance.

Jimmer would have averaged 50 at a JUCO.

Canonball 03-27-2019 10:04 AM

He seems to fit one role we need which is sniper. Can he keep guys in front of him or would UD have to plug holes in other ways?

TA111 03-27-2019 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowd&ProUD (Post 582482)
Jimmer would have averaged 50 at a JUCO.

Agreed, but all we need is someone who can hit wide-open uncontested threes at a 38-40% clip and play decent D. We had essentially no one this year who could consistently hit open outside shots.

Radar 03-27-2019 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OregonMike (Post 582407)
I just searched 247 sports on McNeil. He has several offers, including my other team. 247 shows him having no interest in UD. Do we have a realistic shot at him?

247 also lists Darrell Davis as on our roster.

Medford 03-27-2019 10:39 AM

Hopefully the addition of Jordy, and the maturation of Obi means that UD will have a couple of rim defenders next year (and beyond). Obi showed signs of that late in the season however that was never Josh's strong suite; hence once the opponent was beyond the guards there wasn't much of a challenge. I'm hoping this allows UD's guards to play more aggressive on the perimeter knowing that there is strong resistance at the rim.


Not necessarily related to McNeil, I have no clue on his ability to defend; I just know we need to be able to cheer for someone nick named "hot boy"

Buckleyma 03-27-2019 11:04 AM

I read in the articles that McNeil is already 20 years of age. So, he is not a young teenager. I remember when Dayton was recruiting the Carter kid (related by marriage to Beyoncé) that he was very young in age. This extra age is an advantage to provide physical maturity.
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jack72 03-27-2019 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckleyma (Post 582493)
I read in the articles that McNeil is already 20 years of age. So, he is not a young teenager. I remember when Dayton was recruiting the Carter kid (related by marriage to Beyoncé) that he was very young in age. This extra age is an advantage to provide physical maturity.
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Yep, just look at Obi.

Don't tell me we are going to take another risk on a kid who had no D1 offers out of HS. How did that last one turn out?

Lowd&ProUD 03-27-2019 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TA111 (Post 582485)
Agreed, but all we need is someone who can hit wide-open uncontested threes at a 38-40% clip and play decent D. We had essentially no one this year who could consistently hit open outside shots.

While I'm not on the better-than-Jimmer hype train (sorry Cville Flyer), I am hoping for better than 38-40%. But I hear you ... and agree.

DANGIT. I'm talking as if we've already landed this kid. Aargh.

I don't like that Oregon and TT are in the Sweet 16.

My gut tells me it's all about the girlfriend.

If he can't stand the thought of being away from her (she's at UK), you'd think UD or maybe WV look like the best options.

If he picks Oregon or Texas Tech, I think she might have some heartbreak headed her way.

T-Bone 84 03-27-2019 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar (Post 582488)
247 also lists Darrell Davis as on our roster.

Well, there’s nothing like timely reporting (and THAT is “nothing like” timely reporting).
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BeckysTXA 03-27-2019 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar (Post 582488)
247 also lists Darrell Davis as on our roster.

Fake news is real.

T-Bone 84 03-27-2019 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeckysTXA (Post 582508)
Fake news is real.

Awww, why let facts get in the way of a good narrative?
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MNFats 03-27-2019 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckleyma (Post 582493)
I read in the articles that McNeil is already 20 years of age. So, he is not a young teenager. I remember when Dayton was recruiting the Carter kid (related by marriage to Beyoncé) that he was very young in age. This extra age is an advantage to provide physical maturity.
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I like how you just skipped over the blood relation to Jay Z (richest musician in the US with a net worth of $900M) to a relation to Beyonce through marriage.

Medford 03-27-2019 04:08 PM

Well to be fair, what red-blooded American male doesn't fail to notice Jay-Z when Beyonce walks into the room? :)

Canonball 03-27-2019 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medford (Post 582515)
Well to be fair, what red-blooded American male doesn't fail to notice Jay-Z when Beyonce walks into the room? :)

You mean Mr. Knowles?

OCFlyer85 03-27-2019 04:34 PM

If you look at the current transfer portal, it's not the end of the world if we don't get McNeil

OSU Flyer 03-27-2019 04:49 PM

I think West Virginia is the one to watch here. Their guards were a disaster last year

FlyerinChicago 03-27-2019 05:30 PM

My gut says it’s between UD, WKU and possibly WVU for his services
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jack72 03-27-2019 06:41 PM

I hope Oregon loses in the ACC Tourney, or they will have an immediate marketing edge.

Lowd&ProUD 03-27-2019 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack72 (Post 582538)
I hope Oregon loses in the ACC Tourney, or they will have an immediate marketing edge.

All you can eat and drink at Milano's if Oregon loses in the ACC tourney this week. :)

Buster Goode 03-28-2019 11:16 AM

I think it's down to UD, WVA and Ole Miss.

EliteEight 03-28-2019 11:26 AM

Can anyone confirm that McNeil took an official visit to UD this week? Hot Boy's twitter has been silent the last 8 days.

SLUFLYER 03-28-2019 01:18 PM

Lamonte West transferring from WVU. Wonder how/if this factors into McNeil? WVU already had plenty of scholarships available.

OSU Flyer 03-28-2019 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteEight (Post 582586)
Can anyone confirm that McNeil took an official visit to UD this week? Hot Boy's twitter has been silent the last 8 days.

That's the rumor on Twitter, no idea if it's legit or not

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER (Post 582597)
Lamonte West transferring from WVU. Wonder how/if this factors into McNeil? WVU already had plenty of scholarships available.

West Virginia's guard play was really bad this past season. They had two guards transfer out including their most productive G in James Bolden. They had a freshman get some major minutes in Jordan McCabe.

They're bringing in a freshman guard from Moeller but that's the only G signed right now

Whoever WV targets in the spring has a great chance to get a starting spot and major minutes

Widget 03-28-2019 03:37 PM

Ole Miss having an "in-home visit" w/ Hot boy, per Sinclair's coach Jeff price

OSU Flyer 03-28-2019 04:59 PM

I can't speak the accuracy of this podcast but according to this Ole Miss Rivals podcast, it's down to West Virginia & Ole Miss per the Ole Miss Rivals guy. He asks Corey Evans a national recruiting analyst about him and he says watch out for Huggins with his ties to Greater Cincinnati but doesn't offer a prediction on where he goes

https://olemiss.rivals.com/news/soft...chool-history-

Jaco2112 03-28-2019 05:47 PM

I'm not sure what the connections of Huggins to Cincinnati has to do with anything? I thought McNeil was from Kentucky anyhow? Personality would have to figure into things - as some players probably wouldn't want to play for Huggins for just that reason. AG couldn't be more opposite of him. Without knowing anything about McNeil, transferring to Dayton re: potential playing time, potential team strength, facilities, fan support, environment, coaches connections to next level, as was mentioned (girlfriend?), proximity to home/family, etc... those all have to weigh pretty strongly in favor of UD. Ole Miss - bigger conference, yes - middle of the pack. WV - last in their conference this year and a rugged travel schedule during conference play. It'll be very interesting to see where he lands, no doubt. I don't think these guys in the podcast have any more of a clue than any of us :-)

OSU Flyer 03-28-2019 05:52 PM

McNeil is from Boone County which is essentially suburban Cincinnati

podcast411 03-28-2019 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco2112 (Post 582624)
. I don't think these guys in the podcast have any more of a clue than any of us :-)

People definitely over value what is said in some podcasts. I know I work for the biggest podcast hosting company and have been podcasting since 2004.

I would not give that podcast any more cred then you would a tweet by one of their fans. Or a post in this forum for that matter.

longtimefan67 03-28-2019 06:56 PM

I'd like to see him in a UD uniform, I think the upside UD has spells a quicker route to the NCAA but whatever school he picks is good for Sinclair and sounds like he's definitely put himself in this position with lots of hard work; after losing a very good player in JD, it would sure take the sting out of his departure a bit. Whatever happens, happens.

Buster Goode 03-29-2019 09:22 AM

Thank god Hot Boy has a girlfriend because if he didn't, 10 minutes on Ole Miss' campus and it's over

cj 03-29-2019 09:54 AM

Anybody watch the Cline kid from Purdue go off in the second half? If McNeil can do anything close to that rollo should open the vault.

flyerfan4life 03-29-2019 09:58 AM

Feel very confident he'll be a Flyer. No other visits scheduled as of now and I can't see him committing to a school without ever being on campus. Look for the commitment soon.

longtimefan67 03-29-2019 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 582656)
Anybody watch the Cline kid from Purdue go off in the second half? If McNeil can do anything close to that rollo should open the vault.

I know Carson Edwards had a big game, but Cline won that game for PU. He kept taking ridiculous shots deeper and deeper and most weren't even splashing the net. Seemed like 5 in a row. I kept telling my wife "They should intentionally foul him before he shoots just to limit the damage to 2 points"...

jack72 03-29-2019 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longtimefan67 (Post 582658)
I know Carson Edwards had a big game, but Cline won that game for PU. He kept taking ridiculous shots deeper and deeper and most weren't even splashing the net. Seemed like 5 in a row. I kept telling my wife "They should intentionally foul him before he shoots just to limit the damage to 2 points"...

Wow, it was like he channeled Rick Mount into his 6'6" body. I swear he had his eyes closed on a couple of those. Interesting story. Cline, as a soph, was found unconscious in his car with the car running. He had a marijuana/drug overdose. Purdue suspended him for three games?? Now he comes back to thank their light sentence.

ClaytonFlyerFan 03-29-2019 01:39 PM

I was hoping to see the "welcome to the Family" thread by now.....

lhsgolf19 03-29-2019 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan (Post 582697)
I was hoping to see the "welcome to the Family" thread by now.....

I have it locked and loaded... we gotta be a little patient lol

Lowd&ProUD 03-29-2019 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 (Post 582698)
I have it locked and loaded... we gotta be a little patient lol

Oh my!

This coming from lhsgolf19 has me hopeful. Downright giddy.

Lifelong Flyer Fan 03-29-2019 04:09 PM

Looked him up a little while ago and this was labeled "top story". If this is accurate, he plans to take more visits.
https://www.nkytribune.com/2019/03/f...college-teams/

hawkoooo 03-29-2019 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack72 (Post 582665)
He had a marijuana/drug overdose.

The old "I've smoked too much." A reckoning of sorts. Definitely not wise to be on that journey behind the wheel of a car.

lhsgolf19 03-29-2019 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowd&ProUD (Post 582711)
Oh my!

This coming from lhsgolf19 has me hopeful. Downright giddy.

No lol I don't know anything... I'm just saying every one hold your horses and take a deep breath, it might be a little bit we don't know... If he commits, he commits

Piqua Flyer '66 03-29-2019 05:36 PM

I like our chances. A young man who dropped out of Bellarmine Univ after a week, a school in Louisville, 50 some miles from his home, then goes to JUCO 60 miles from home, is now prepared to go half way/all the way across the country to Oregon and Tx Tech? Ole Miss is not exactly a national hoop power. If not WVa I say we get him.

SLUFLYER 03-29-2019 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan (Post 582714)
Looked him up a little while ago and this was labeled "top story". If this is accurate, he plans to take more visits.
https://www.nkytribune.com/2019/03/f...college-teams/

If he's taking more visits, we're probably toast. That's never a good sign after publicly announcing he'd narrowed it to 6 schools (unless those visits are to the 6 he's narrowed it to, then that's different).

Plus, I don't think CAG is going to wait around too long to fill this need/spot.

Just my $.02. I didn't read the article/link.

Lowd&ProUD 03-29-2019 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 (Post 582718)
No lol I don't know anything... I'm just saying every one hold your horses and take a deep breath, it might be a little bit we don't know... If he commits, he commits

Boo hiss.

Ok, expectations tempered again.

Jeff 03-29-2019 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowd&ProUD (Post 582726)
Boo hiss.

Ok, expectations tempered again.

The life of a mid-major....

EliteEight 03-30-2019 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER (Post 582722)
If he's taking more visits, we're probably toast. That's never a good sign after publicly announcing he'd narrowed it to 6 schools (unless those visits are to the 6 he's narrowed it to, then that's different).

Plus, I don't think CAG is going to wait around too long to fill this need/spot.

Just my $.02. I didn't read the article/link.

Said he plans on visiting the five other schools. Mentioned already visiting Dayton via a text message to the NK writer. Doesn't know when he expects to make a decision. On to the next one's boys, I'm sure AG has multiple targets on his list.

Buster Goode 03-31-2019 06:11 PM

Ole Miss is going to steal him.
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steve 03-31-2019 08:24 PM

Do you guys actually think he's not going to take other visits? use your heads here guys. He has narrowed his list down to a handful of schools and he's going to visit some of them. He probably likes UD alot but he would be an absolute fool not to take other visits and go thru the process and be sure. Plus, nice to be able to wine and dine it on someone else's tab on places he would never visit any other time.

sheg 03-31-2019 08:41 PM

Texas Tech has certainly enhanced their resume in the last two weeks.

TX Flyer 03-31-2019 10:38 PM

I predict he takes no visits

EliteEight 03-31-2019 11:12 PM

If I'm Hot Boy I'm visiting every school that's in my Top 6. Just like a normal student goes to visit universities. He should visit them then decide which school/situation feels best for him. Sorry if this is too reasonable for some.

From everything I've read on McNeil it doesn't seem like he's all that interested in school so he may end up at WVU, TT or Ole Miss. Larger schools, better conferences, more pro scouts.

longtimefan 03-31-2019 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TX Flyer (Post 582412)
No interest in Dayton? Check back Thursday and see where he says he is going

Quote:

Originally Posted by TX Flyer (Post 582880)
I predict he takes no visits


Thursday has passed.

podcast411 03-31-2019 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longtimefan (Post 582883)
Thursday has passed.

He did not say WHICH Thursday

steve 04-01-2019 09:11 AM

He seems like a pretty quiet kid that would like to stay close to home. Made a mistake once (his interpretation), close to his family, close to his former coach, has a GF. How close is anyone's bet but I'd say both UD and WVU would be his top choices.

He has everything needed at UD (except top level conference) to excel and pretty much the same with WVU that is in a top conference.

jack72 04-01-2019 09:57 AM

Isn't he only allowed like three official visits?

If he goes to Ole Miss in the spring, he may never come back. He better take his girlfriend with him on that visit.

rollo 04-01-2019 10:11 AM

I can go if his GF can't...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jack72 (Post 582897)
Isn't he only allowed like three official visits?

If he goes to Ole Miss in the spring, he may never come back. He better take his girlfriend with him on that visit.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...size=400%2C267

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/9b/54/5a/9...ool-spirit.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DZm09d2Xs9...ndy+08+164.jpg

jack72 04-01-2019 10:34 AM

That's what I'm talkin bout!

Flyers98 04-01-2019 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve (Post 582894)
He seems like a pretty quiet kid that would like to stay close to home. Made a mistake once (his interpretation), close to his family, close to his former coach, has a GF. How close is anyone's bet but I'd say both UD and WVU would be his top choices.

He has everything needed at UD (except top level conference) to excel and pretty much the same with WVU that is in a top conference.

If he is as good as everyone thinks, he has everything he needs at UD. With the squad we should be putting on the floor next year, there will be plenty of national attention and plenty of scouts hanging around.

joeybaloney 04-01-2019 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyers98 (Post 582937)
If he is as good as everyone thinks, he has everything he needs at UD. With the squad we should be putting on the floor next year, there will be plenty of national attention and plenty of scouts hanging around.


I am as big of a UD fan is anybody and I think that we are going to be very good next year regardless of if he comes. However, other than Western Kentucky he would get much more exposure at the other four schools by far as compared to UD. More ESPN coverage more games on other networks, etc.

Hopefully we have a shot because he went to several UD games and the atmosphere and experience at UD arena has grown on him. The fact that his girlfriend is at UK and geographically UD is closer to Lexington than any of the other schools could be a factor .

If I were a betting man I would say he's headed to Texas Tech.

N2663R 04-01-2019 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rollo (Post 582899)

I see your hot cheerleaders and raise you one Dayton Earthquake Lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jBxWdhB3Xs

Swampy Meadows 04-01-2019 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack72 (Post 582897)
Isn't he only allowed like three official visits?

If he goes to Ole Miss in the spring, he may never come back. He better take his girlfriend with him on that visit.

He is allowed five official visits
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jack72 04-01-2019 05:11 PM

I did not realize his girlfriend goes to UK. I hate to throw another one out there, but what if KY now offers him a scholly. Gone.

maddog07 04-01-2019 06:14 PM

He’d never see the floor at UK.
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MNFats 04-01-2019 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2663R (Post 582945)
I see your hot cheerleaders and raise you one Dayton Earthquake Lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jBxWdhB3Xs

Wow. Just wow. I mean...I'm trying to find words for this. I have none.

TX Flyer 04-01-2019 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longtimefan (Post 582883)
Thursday has passed.

I was surprised he didn’t commit then. Still don’t think he goes anywhere

Avanti 04-01-2019 06:58 PM

I have no idea what McNeil is thinking , but I think the whole idea of exposure is a thing of the past...there is so much media outside conventional networks that pro scouts will know who he is. How much exposure does a kid have at community college in Dayton on ESPN or other media outlets?? yet the whole country has heard of him. His pro stock does not Change in the least if he plays at Kentucky or at prairie view, as long as he scores consistently in D1
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steve 04-01-2019 07:36 PM

The question or concern may also be does he want to go play at LaSalle and at Fordham and at Richmond and St Bonnie. Maybe the kid wants to play against the best competition out there too or play against multiple top 20 teams and be on national TV a lot.

rollo 04-01-2019 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2663R (Post 582945)
I see your hot cheerleaders and raise you one Dayton Earthquake Lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jBxWdhB3Xs

Where the hell did you find that?!! Good lord, Ocasio-Cortez has a long lost sister out there!

Flyer2 04-01-2019 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows (Post 582946)
He is allowed five official visits
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Are you back from vacation or are you stranded on the island?

Swampy Meadows 04-01-2019 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyer2 (Post 582969)
Are you back from vacation or are you stranded on the island?

Don't I wish. Back to reality.

Flyers98 04-01-2019 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve (Post 582960)
The question or concern may also be does he want to go play at LaSalle and at Fordham and at Richmond and St Bonnie. Maybe the kid wants to play against the best competition out there too or play against multiple top 20 teams and be on national TV a lot.

He currently plays at Sinclair and yet the world has beaten a path to his door.

EliteEight 04-01-2019 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avanti (Post 582958)
I have no idea what McNeil is thinking , but I think the whole idea of exposure is a thing of the past...there is so much media outside conventional networks that pro scouts will know who he is. How much exposure does a kid have at community college in Dayton on ESPN or other media outlets?? yet the whole country has heard of him. His pro stock does not Change in the least if he plays at Kentucky or at prairie view, as long as he scores consistently in D1
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Reality is that McNeil is an undersized white guard. Let's say he commits to UD and averages 19ppg and shoots 39% from 3 and earns first team A10. Then follows that up with 21ppg the next year.

If he put up those same numbers at let's say Ole Miss (SEC) or TTU or WVU (Big 12) they absolutely mean more. Those conferences have more athletes, more cameras, more exposure. No debate.

You're right if he averages 27ppg and shoots 41% from 3 at 6'4 but that's Steph Curry territory. That's rarified air. Steph was drafted 7th in 2009. One spot behind Johnny Flynn from Syracuse. If Steph was wearing a Cuse jersey instead of Davidson during college he's probably going top 2 in that draft behind Blake Griffin.

T-Bone 84 04-01-2019 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rollo (Post 582962)
Where the hell did you find that?!! Good lord, Ocasio-Cortez has a long lost sister out there!

You mean, Almost Occasionally-Cognizant?
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joeybaloney 04-02-2019 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by EliteEight (Post 582979)
Reality is that McNeil is an undersized white guard. Let's say he commits to UD and averages 19ppg and shoots 39% from 3 and earns first team A10. Then follows that up with 21ppg the next year.

If he put up those same numbers at let's say Ole Miss (SEC) or TTU or WVU (Big 12) they absolutely mean more. Those conferences have more athletes, more cameras, more exposure. No debate.

You're right if he averages 27ppg and shoots 41% from 3 at 6'4 but that's Steph Curry territory. That's rarified air. Steph was drafted 7th in 2009. One spot behind Johnny Flynn from Syracuse. If Steph was wearing a Cuse jersey instead of Davidson during college he's probably going top 2 in that draft behind Blake Griffin.


Not to quibble but I don't think 6'4 is under sized for a shooting guard in college.

The Final Four starting SG's are 6'3(Brown), 6'2(Guy), 6'5(Mcquaid), and Texas Tech's 3 guard lineup has two SG's, 6'2(Moretti) and 6'6 (Culver).

Chris R 04-02-2019 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EliteEight (Post 582979)
Steph was drafted 7th in 2009. One spot behind Johnny Flynn from Syracuse. If Steph was wearing a Cuse jersey instead of Davidson during college he's probably going top 2 in that draft behind Blake Griffin.

I dont think going to Davidson has held back Steph Curry's pro career. I dont think going to Syracuse put a tailwind in the back of Jonny Flynn to salvage his pro career. I dont see where being an Orange helped him at all. Steph has already made more money than Jonn Boy will ever see or touch.

Steph was a household name due to the NCAA tourney. He wasnt lacking for much of anything. Ja Morant plays college basketball in Murray, KY, and will go in the top three in the draft. I dont think playing for the Racers has held him back either -- and thats under the immediate nearby shadow of the Big Blue. With TV contracts now almost every game is on TV. If you're any good, youll be found. Pick a school that wants you and needs you and checks your boxes.

rollo 04-02-2019 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows (Post 582970)
Don't I wish. Back to reality.

What on God's green earth do you know about reality?

steve 04-02-2019 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EliteEight (Post 582979)
Reality is that McNeil is an undersized white guard. Let's say he commits to UD and averages 19ppg and shoots 39% from 3 and earns first team A10. Then follows that up with 21ppg the next year.

If he put up those same numbers at let's say Ole Miss (SEC) or TTU or WVU (Big 12) they absolutely mean more. Those conferences have more athletes, more cameras, more exposure. No debate.

You're right if he averages 27ppg and shoots 41% from 3 at 6'4 but that's Steph Curry territory. That's rarified air. Steph was drafted 7th in 2009. One spot behind Johnny Flynn from Syracuse. If Steph was wearing a Cuse jersey instead of Davidson during college he's probably going top 2 in that draft behind Blake Griffin.

Doesn't mean nearly as much as you think. The 2 guard doing the same thing in the SEC/ACC is going against elite athletes just like the kid in the A10 is going against. There is so much good to great guard play in every conference. The difference in the conferences is the BIGS.Look at all the transfers in the A10 from power 5 conferences.

Now, maybe a scouting report on an elite guard with good size from a power 5 conference may say he gets to the rack at will and can take it to the 6'9 players easily and, yes, that kid probably will get more exposure for the NBA but if you have the size, the athletic ability, can shoot and score and you can play the game then they find you wherever you are and you will be known. Don't care if you're a white kid in the ACC or the A10...

And no 6'2/6'3" G that was as thin, weak and not a leaper at all like Steph was going to be picked #2 in any draft. Now, you want to talk Ja Morant who can run like a deer and jump thru the roof then that's different.

You're going to get to showcase yourself in the AS games and the pre-draft events, too..

UD62 04-02-2019 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by joeybaloney (Post 582984)
Not to quibble but I don't think 6'4 is under sized for a shooting guard in college.

The Final Four starting SG's are 6'3(Brown), 6'2(Guy), 6'5(Mcquaid), and Texas Tech's 3 guard lineup has two SG's, 6'2(Moretti) and 6'6 (Culver).

But he got the white part right.

MNFats 04-02-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by UD62 (Post 582997)
But he got the white part right.

I mean, it's totally irrelevant, but yeah he nailed that part.

jack72 04-02-2019 11:23 AM

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He’d never see the floor at UK.
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So you are saying, he really is not very good. If he never would see the floor at UK, then I doubt we want him, because we want guys who compete at that level. Is that what you are saying, and have you seen him play?

EliteEight 04-02-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MNFats (Post 583004)
I mean, it's totally irrelevant, but yeah he nailed that part.


I didn't mean intend to start such a debate. I think some of you may have interpreted and or focused on some aspects of my post more than I intentioned. My post was in regards to exposure and professional (NBA) prospects. I wanted to simply make the point that if a potential first-team player in A10 posted the exact same statistical line for a P5 program that player in the P5 conference would get more exposure.

Nowadays, scouts evaluate every player at every level. Evaluation and exposure (name recognition) are different. Larger conferences get more exposure across national media outlets. From an NBA perspective, McNeil is undersized for a SG. Regardless of where the kid ends up (hopefully it's here), he will need to produce and showcase some elite skills to get a shot professionally.

Let's just hope we can get him to don a Flyer uniform and worry about contributions later :)

jack72 04-02-2019 01:45 PM

Cart before the horse. Too early to talk about McNeil and pro ball before he plays a minute of D1 ball. I think the debate is will he get more exposure at a football school than UD. That is silly. The pro scouts will find you wherever you play, and stats is only one of their measuring sticks.

Flyer Al 04-02-2019 02:58 PM

Dayton is in the final three. Final decision within the next one to two weeks.


https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...GfWa4ZhH8XbWK/

steve 04-02-2019 03:05 PM

Wasn't aware Donnie Jones was his main recruiter....Would have guessed UD was the prohibitive favorite had Jones not left.


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