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lhsgolf19 11-26-2015 11:35 PM

Monmouth (AdvoCare Invitational) Game Thread
 
Great win tonight.... Absolutely not looking past the Hawks, keep playing like we do!

Friday Night at 9:30 on ESPN2

G 12 Justin Robinson 5’8” 175 JR Lake Katrine, NY
G 11 Je’lon Hornbeak 6’3” 190 JR Arlington, TX
G 10 Micah Seaborn 6’5” 190 RS FR Arlington, TX
G 5 Deon Jones 6’6” 220 SR Wilmington, DE
C 33 Zac Tillman 6’10” 285 JR Yeadon, PA

Justin Robinson is big time... averages about 23 a night.

Go UD! Keep It Up!

DGO67 11-27-2015 12:30 AM

Vegas line not up yet. Flyers should open at 9.

maddog07 11-27-2015 10:18 AM

We should own the boards. This will come down to our ability close out on shooters and limit TO's as they thrive on steals and fastbreaks off them. They also shoot well from 3 and know how to get fouled and make Ft's. Need to limit touch fouls.

rollo 11-27-2015 10:36 AM

1971 Monmouth Freshman cheerleaders...
 
This 'safe-for-work' stuff is boring...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...746533ed64.jpg

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!

UD62 11-27-2015 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGO67 (Post 426626)
Vegas line not up yet. Flyers should open at 9.

Flyers opened at PK, as did many teams, moved to -8

Swampy Meadows 11-27-2015 11:07 AM

One thing fans need to be prepared for is the Monmouth bench. They have a bunch of bad actors playing it up for the cameras:

http://es.pn/1MGRG00

San Diego Flyer 11-27-2015 11:08 AM

Monouth is a very skilled team
 
These guys are good. They shoot very well. Average 9 steals a game while turning it over less than 10 a game. Star guard shoots 93% from ft line. Averages 23/game. Team averages 81 points/game against a very good early season schedule, but so does their opponents. A bit vulnerable on the boards, but will still get their share. They go 10 deep with reserves. No major foul trouble players.

At first glance this looks like a shoot out at a frantic pace.

Beware-- they are 3-1 and have NOT played a home game yet.

Like all holiday games, regardless of what the spread is, any win would be an achievement.

DGO67 11-27-2015 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UD62 (Post 426706)
Flyers opened at PK, as did many teams, moved to -8

Opening at "pick" merely meets a deadline. When the betting windows open for business, the line is where it should be and remain give or take a point or two. Otherwise, bettors would wind along from Caesars to McCarran AP ready to bet the opening line.

Flyer 86 11-27-2015 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddog07 (Post 426685)
We should own the boards. This will come down to our ability close out on shooters and limit TO's as they thrive on steals and fastbreaks off them. They also shoot well from 3 and know how to get fouled and make Ft's. Need to limit touch fouls.

THIS. We WILL outboard them.

What happens then, anyone's guess . I'm fairly confident.

frisco flyer 11-27-2015 02:29 PM

Game notes from Montmouth:

http://www.monmouthhawks.com/ViewArt...B_OEM_ID=14300


Interesting side note:

Monmouth junior guard Josh James (Greenburgh, NY/Archbishop Stepinac) and Dayton junior guard Scoochie Smith (Bronx, NY/Putnam Sciences Academy) were AAU teammates with the New York Gauchos on both 15U and 16U teams. Also on that team was Manhattan guard Tyler Wilson.

BeckysTXA 11-27-2015 07:47 PM

I have Direct TV -- and just looked up the line item for tonight's game. Here's what it says:

"Charles Cooke and Dayton take on Monmouth in this semifinal matchup."

Great plug for Cooke and kinda cool.

Rick Scaia 11-27-2015 09:00 PM

FWIW, the Ohio St. game on ESPN2 is running WAY late... looks like ESPNU is out as an option as they have a football game on, but ESPNews has got nothing better going on, and should broadcast the first 15-20 minutes of Dayton/Monmouth, or however long it takes before ESPN2 can take over.

In other words, anyone looking to run a DVR or time-shift are kinda screwed, but at least this shouldn't be a deal where we all have to switch over to second-screen/internet-stream technology.

Sid Louick 11-27-2015 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Scaia (Post 426857)
FWIW, the Ohio St. game on ESPN2 is running WAY late... looks like ESPNU is out as an option as they have a football game on, but ESPNews has got nothing better going on, and should broadcast the first 15-20 minutes of Dayton/Monmouth, or however long it takes before ESPN2 can take over.

In other words, anyone looking to run a DVR or time-shift are kinda screwed, but at least this shouldn't be a deal where we all have to switch over to second-screen/internet-stream technology.

Is ESPN3 a possibility? I'm in a hotel without ESPNNews.

udx2 11-27-2015 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Louick (Post 426859)
Is ESPN3 a possibility? I'm in a hotel without ESPNNews.

Hotels can be a challenge when trying to follow the Flyers. WHIO is always an option. Or, ask at the hotel where the local sports bars are.

Rick Scaia 11-27-2015 09:25 PM

ESPN3 is actually fine, if you have free wi-fi or a good data plan. ESPN3 is just the internet-streaming/second-screen thing I was talking about.... I'm a greedy, entitled SOB, so I just want to see things on TV without having to hook up an extra HDMI thingie. But yeah, ESPN3 should be good, too.

udx2 11-27-2015 09:31 PM

ESPN is saying our game starts at 9:40 now.

steve snyder 11-27-2015 09:31 PM

Tip time now 9:40

Flyer Al 11-27-2015 09:32 PM

ESPN2 is now scrolling a message that the game will tip at 9:40. ESPN3 will have it as well.

Flyer Al 11-27-2015 09:35 PM

And, if they keep the same announcing team as they did for the earlier game, we will have Dickie V announcing, I am unsure if he has ever worked a UD game.

udx2 11-27-2015 09:43 PM

We start with 2.

udx2 11-27-2015 09:44 PM

This looks like a UD home game. All red. Up 4.

lhsgolf19 11-27-2015 09:49 PM

9-3 UD with 15:09 left in the half

frisco flyer 11-27-2015 09:54 PM

Does Cooke have 2 PFs?

Falcon7 11-27-2015 09:56 PM

**** Bucks... Just lose already, just like tomorrow.

Falcon7 11-27-2015 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon7 (Post 426876)
**** Bucks... Just lose already, just like tomorrow.

Excuse me: Darn Bucks.

lhsgolf19 11-27-2015 09:58 PM

20-12 UD with 11:22 left in the half

udx2 11-27-2015 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frisco flyer (Post 426875)
Does Cooke have 2 PFs?

One. The Monmouth bench is a comedy show.

udx2 11-27-2015 10:06 PM

Nice 3 for Mikesell from well beyond the arch. UD 23 - 13.

lhsgolf19 11-27-2015 10:08 PM

23-15 UD with under 8 to go

frisco flyer 11-27-2015 10:08 PM

Too many ticky tack fouls being called. This favors them.

T-Bone 84 11-27-2015 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frisco flyer (Post 426882)
Too many ticky tack fouls being called. This favors them.

Yep, foul count is us 8, them 5.
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frisco flyer 11-27-2015 10:12 PM

These guys are out rebounding us 15-10

C-time 11-27-2015 10:17 PM

Do the Monmouth bench warmers really need their own video box during live play?

frisco flyer 11-27-2015 10:21 PM

Too many starters sitting on the bench with fouls.
It would be nice to finish the half strong.

lhsgolf19 11-27-2015 10:22 PM

31-28 UD with 3:33 left in the half... Our ball after the TO

T-Bone 84 11-27-2015 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-time (Post 426885)
Do the Monmouth bench warmers really need their own video box during live play?

Give 'em a reality show already, and get back to showing the guys who are actually playing.
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Swampy Meadows 11-27-2015 10:23 PM

Yeah, I don't see Archie allowing the walk ons to act up like that on the bench.

Try and act like you've been there before Monmouth.

frisco flyer 11-27-2015 10:25 PM

KD is hounding their PG. sticking to him like glue

Jack D 11-27-2015 10:25 PM

Bobby for two

Jack D 11-27-2015 10:29 PM

UD crowd is huge

T-Bone 84 11-27-2015 10:29 PM

That wasn't a foul on Wehrli! Give me a flipping break!
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Jack D 11-27-2015 10:31 PM

no presence in the paint for UD on the offensive end...

udx2 11-27-2015 10:34 PM

At the half, UD up 37 - 32. Should be an interesting 2nd half.

Jack D 11-27-2015 10:34 PM

come on scooch....gotta make those freebies

maddog07 11-27-2015 10:36 PM

Too many minutes from the b team. We're letting Monmouth hang around- very dangerous.

udx2 11-27-2015 10:37 PM

"Dayton is a team that can shock the world this year." Nice ESPN comment at the half.

frisco flyer 11-27-2015 10:38 PM

Why did Sam Miller play so little when Steve was on the bench?
We need to be more disciplined in the second half. I would like to see some set plays for Pollard and Big Mac

priceg75 11-27-2015 10:41 PM

Need to pull away in the second half.

Darrell Davis needs to wake up, he hasn't been a factor in Orlando yet.

Maybe they won't call 25 total fouls in the second half, but I'm not holding my breath.

T-Bone 84 11-27-2015 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack D (Post 426894)
no presence in the paint for UD on the offensive end...

Monmouth has some very big guys rotating at the 5, that average-out to be Steve's size. Neither Sammy nor X is big enough to do much inside against them. Pick-n-rolls might be a decent option to get some points in the paint, but I think straight post-ups will only work for Steve.
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The Price is Wright 11-27-2015 10:42 PM

Brutal officiating
 
If this was last season, we'd have 2 players left for the second half. Entirely too many whistles on both teams. Steve got a new one in that half. The receiving a separation elbow to the chest foul. Never seen anything like this. Horrible flow to the game.

DGO67 11-27-2015 10:44 PM

No secret here...drive to the hoop.

31770 11-27-2015 10:46 PM

I'm very impressed with their point guard play, Robinson is a beast... won't be surprised to see them dancing in March

31770 11-27-2015 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack D (Post 426894)
no presence in the paint for UD on the offensive end...

Agree. ..

Look 2 Steve in the 2nd

maddog07 11-27-2015 10:49 PM

gotta stop penetration. If we are going to shoot 3's they need to come from anyone not named Kyle Davis. He's not shown improvement a bit over last year. Now 2 of 10 on the year.

31770 11-27-2015 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rollo (Post 426693)
This 'safe-for-work' stuff is boring...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...746533ed64.jpg

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!

Fapp'd twice! Thanks captain!

T-Bone 84 11-27-2015 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Price is Wright (Post 426902)
If this was last season, we'd have 2 players left for the second half. Entirely too many whistles on both teams. Steve got a new one in that half. The receiving a separation elbow to the chest foul. Never seen anything like this. Horrible flow to the game.

That's one of my favorite jeers at The Arena: "Let me guess...he fouled his elbow with his chest?!"
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San Diego Flyer 11-27-2015 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frisco flyer (Post 426899)
Why did Sam Miller play so little when Steve was on the bench?
We need to be more disciplined in the second half. I would like to see some set plays for Pollard and Big Mac

Have you watched Sam play? He is on a seriously steep learning curve. Not picking on the Freshman because Darrell Davis does not instill confidence right now either. He looks lost out there for a guy who has logged a lot of minutes in his career.

lhsgolf19 11-27-2015 10:59 PM

41-32 UD with 15:56 left... Big Steve has 4 fouls now

priceg75 11-27-2015 11:00 PM

Refs doubling down on the whistles. Great.

Falcon7 11-27-2015 11:00 PM

Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...F oul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Fo ul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Fou l...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul ...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul. ..Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...Foul...

maddog07 11-27-2015 11:01 PM

3 career fg> Nuff said

udx2 11-27-2015 11:02 PM

Up 11. Biggest lead of the game.

lhsgolf19 11-27-2015 11:03 PM

8-0 start to the half... UD up 45-32 with 14:50 left

frisco flyer 11-27-2015 11:03 PM

Whistle happy crew tonight!

FlyerGuyer 11-27-2015 11:04 PM

There we go...at our best when we push the ball up the court and attack the basket. Great defense so far in the second half to create those transition buckets...

DGO67 11-27-2015 11:05 PM

Agree but both ways.
Keep going to the hoop!!!!

Jack D 11-27-2015 11:06 PM

killin' em on the defensive end

maddog07 11-27-2015 11:07 PM

Kyle can flat eat up their little guard

Jack D 11-27-2015 11:09 PM

Williams!!!

udx2 11-27-2015 11:09 PM

Come on ESPN, don't encourage that bench.

Jack D 11-27-2015 11:11 PM

"_avier and Dayton are not fond of each other"...understatement of the year

lhsgolf19 11-27-2015 11:12 PM

51-41 UD with 11:56 left

maddog07 11-27-2015 11:13 PM

Letting them hang around with poor perimeter d on 3s. We look stagnant on O. Need to insert Pollard and finish this.

udx2 11-27-2015 11:14 PM

Does Monmouth's Justin Robinson remind anyone else of Tu Holloway?

priceg75 11-27-2015 11:15 PM

Focus on the Hawks bench is really encapsulating the downfall of ESPN sports coverage. More about the spectacle than the contest.

Jack D 11-27-2015 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddog07 (Post 426926)
Letting them hang around with poor perimeter d on 3s. We look stagnant on O. Need to insert Pollard and finish this.

how's that for you?!?!

maddog07 11-27-2015 11:16 PM

Archie must be listening

Jack D 11-27-2015 11:17 PM

way too many fouls....let em play refs

lhsgolf19 11-27-2015 11:22 PM

62-51 with 8:06 left

priceg75 11-27-2015 11:23 PM

Justin Robinson... Holy crap.

maddog07 11-27-2015 11:23 PM

need too stop their 3's and not foul. It's their only way to claw back into this game. Put in Pollard and Steve until they foul out.

Falcon7 11-27-2015 11:24 PM

The little Robinson kid is a stud!

maddog07 11-27-2015 11:26 PM

He's killing up. Might be worth a double team.

frisco flyer 11-27-2015 11:31 PM

we don't play well with a big lead. This has to be fixed quick!

Crunk Juice 11-27-2015 11:31 PM

Man, this team needs to learn how to finish teams or it is going to be a long season

udx2 11-27-2015 11:31 PM

Yesterday we gave up a 14 pt lead, but came back. Today our 16 point lead is down to 8. Got to stop them and have a little run to end this.

FlyerGuyer 11-27-2015 11:32 PM

Baby D is in La-La Land...needs to wake up like he did vs. Oklahoma last season...

Crunk Juice 11-27-2015 11:32 PM

And X Williams is a mistake waiting to happen every time he touches the ball

udx2 11-27-2015 11:33 PM

18 - 4 run for Monmouth.

FlyingArrow 11-27-2015 11:34 PM

64-63

C-time 11-27-2015 11:34 PM

Time to get Kendall back in. X has started to make some mistakes in crunch time.

maddog07 11-27-2015 11:34 PM

Another big lead squandered. Sooner or later this is going to backfire. Playing green men too long.

Crunk Juice 11-27-2015 11:34 PM

Pollard has to be smart and stay out of foul trouble. He can't sit the entire second half in games

Jack D 11-27-2015 11:35 PM

attack the hoop!!!

lhsgolf19 11-27-2015 11:36 PM

66-63 UD with 3:15 left

C-time 11-27-2015 11:36 PM

Against these zones is where we really miss Pierre. Nobody has that feel in the high post like he does.

maddog07 11-27-2015 11:36 PM

Time to start Cooke-in

T-Bone 84 11-27-2015 11:37 PM

Our ball after the TO, but I'd like to see if there should've been a foul on Tillman on that floor dive.
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priceg75 11-27-2015 11:37 PM

Oh, I see. The ONLY fouls they are calling this game are touch fouls. Everything else is A-OK.

ClaytonFlyerFan 11-27-2015 11:38 PM

My wife poured me a glass of wine at halftime and told me to take a sip everytime a foul was called. Doubtful I make it to the end of the game at this point.

Come on NCAA, your screwing up a great sport. No one goes to the game to watch 3 zebras call fouls all day.


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