New Uniforms
 

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Well it looks like they failed again to make it where the Numbers and Letters can be seen more clearly on the on the Red and Blue Uniforms. I'm fine with the Nike template they chose but ever since the logo update with no white being used for the numbers or letters on the road/alt uniforms it is difficult to see the numbers clearly on TV.

Below are some mockups from a couple years ago that I did and any option other than just plain navy on the red show up much better.

http://www.udpride.com/forums/pictur...&pictureid=281

http://www.udpride.com/forums/pictur...&pictureid=273

http://www.udpride.com/forums/pictur...&pictureid=272

I personally have not come to like the dark blue, I think switching out the navy for Columbia Blue would really look good, and also be a different color scheme. A light blue lettering on the red would look sharp and be a color scheme you don't see regularly, which would stand out in the crowd of dark blue and red uniforms.

The white trim on the lettering above is a good improvement as well. The blue on red looks like a practice uniform when seen on TV, and I can't hardly read a number, let alone pick out a name on the back of a jersey.

I might be in the minority here, but I like the dark blue. And while I admit white piping might make the lettering stand out a little more, I don't have an issue reading the names. And I've never been a fan of Columbia blue. It's practically a pastel and makes me think first of UNC.

We can all probably save ourselves some breath, and just refer to last year's thread.

http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?p=505180

C-Time and I even both did the mock-ups, using the Nike customizer tool, and everything, because it seems like the dark-on-dark (with no outline) is a constant source of annoyance. I stand by my work, and see no need to repeat it now!

Season can't start soon enough

But until then - Bring BACK the Columbia Blue! It doesn't have to be the primary color!

The dark blue base with Columbia blue lettering would look cool, same on the red.

:whiteflag:

My wishes:
1) Names and numbers that are more readable.
2) Columbia Blue

I think a Columbia Blue alternate should be added too, but make it a throwback uniform with the lettering and number styles UD wore in the past. That way it's not taking away from the current branding.

Check out the new home jersey
https://www.instagram.com/stories/daytonmbb/

My first comment was going to be "can I read the road jerseys now"? I see that has already been covered, so carry on.

https://twitter.com/DaytonMBB/status...40247491358730

Absolutely clean and fantastic

FIRE.

At least the stupid "wing" appendage in not as visible on the pants, lol.

I keep hearing my name, so here's $0.02 ... You can keep the change.

Carolina blue (Pantone 542) and Columbia blue (Pantone 292) are similar but not the same. I'd be curious what formula they used on the remodeled chapel dome - it's deeper than Columbia (and used to be white). I digress.

Columbia blue was a secondary drop shadow with our previous identity (1994-2013). Red & royal were primary. Coach Purnell had throwback alternates ready for 1999 arena 30th anniversary, but they we're never worn, as I recall due to postseason focus. They were quietly auctioned online after the season as a fundraiser. I bought Edwin Young's.

A Columbia base alternate saw limited use under Coach Gregory, along w the blacks immortalized in the 2010 NIT run.

I wish UD had more clout with Nike. Actually, I wish the NCAA never sold out at all. Did just fine with Champion for decades. Whatever talented recruits like is fine with me.

Columbia is not in the new color palette, so I don't expect to see it anytime soon. A modern reprise of Don May era duds for the new arena & 50th anniversary seems wildly apropos ... Stay tuned.

I like the wing appendage. The logo should be red and blue, they should not have changed it to all red and given in to all the complaints. The initial redesign was good IMO.

The all red looks much better.

Two cents...
 

I agree that the one-color logo looks much better...whether it's red, or black (some times).

Re the white home uniforms....why no blue at all? Finally, re the red on blue letters or vice versa, almost unintelligible. About two years ago the U. of Miss played at the Arena. Their road uniforms were identical to Dayton's with one exception: Ole Miss was spelled out in blue trimmed in a fine white line. The white trim made all the difference in the world.

Now this isn't rocket science. Neil has eyes and must have read posts like this. Contrast is a very important element of design. And as is apparent to anyone who can see, our red-on-blue lettering or vice versa is seriously lacking in contrast. Same goes for the football uniforms.

That is the issue. I cannot imagine a sensible counter argument. So what's the matter with Neil's judgment? We've had the new unis for a few years now and the issue remains. Doesn't he care? Chris?

get real here....
you win and the uni looks GREAT
you lose and the uni sucks!
Obvious simple solution!

Just coming entirely out of left field here, but why not just look at the player and see who it is, rather than look at the back of the jersey for a number. I have no idea what number anybody has.

On a good visual broadcast that is true, but some of the crap transmissions we have gotten in the past does not allow for easy identification. Hopefully ESPN+ will be an improvement. Many of us do know the numbers, and when you get a quick glance from the backside the number or name is all you can see.

Winning, but,...
 

Of course winning is most important. But I've been at URI games (good seats, the president's box) and there is no way to tell who the opposing team is from the unis, much less the player's name. Defending the indefensible is stupid. Uniform lettering should be clearly understandable in person or on TV. There is no sensible counter argument, fercryinoutloud!

I smell Aiden Curran's hand in this . . . :rolleyes:

Why bother to make the programs on glossy paper with professional photos? Just watch the game and know your players.

If the cost of fixing the problem is near $0, there is no good reason to allow the problem to persist.

It's not game-changing or program changing, but it is sloppiness.

Actually I read somewhere recently that the Grad assistant designs the uniforms (with approvals. of course) Same practice with the former coach.

In most cases this works but it always seems there are a few guys who have similar haircuts and builds that are hard to differentiate.

Also I think having easily seen numbers makes it easier on the ESPN announcers calling games from Bristol