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-   -   This was the most disappointing loss of the year (http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31680)

Donniex3Era 01-06-2018 10:44 PM

This was the most disappointing loss of the year
 
Coming off beating a solid Bonna team, against a poor team with 2 starters suspended, at home....with a chance at positive momentum, we c##p our pants. Once again, its going to be a long season:(

TommyGola 01-06-2018 10:50 PM

I didn't think they played with nearly the energy level that they had with Bonaventure. The Flyers did a much better job of stifling the passing lanes and controlling the dribble penetration against the Bonnies. With UMass, they seemed to have their way after the 15 minute mark of the first half. Trey was not as active; Darrell was in foul trouble; X was not boxing out or defending the dribble penetration at the hoop. They just had no answer for anything on the defensive side of the ball. Offensively, everything started and generally ended on the perimeter. You can't win many games doing what the Flyers did today on either side of the court.

Ready Action 01-06-2018 10:54 PM

A .500 finish is my hope/goal for this staff and group of players...:worried:

C-time 01-06-2018 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ready Action (Post 528771)
A .500 finish is my hope/goal for this group of staff/players...:worried:

Which is an unacceptable record for any Dayton Mens basketball team.

I know we can't fire AG until 2020 or 2021 but this debacle is unacceptable

Jeff 01-06-2018 11:23 PM

Meanwhile VCU has a new coach and keeps rolling.....

udscott 01-06-2018 11:26 PM

.500 is gonna be the record till we fire AG
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Donniex3Era 01-06-2018 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by udscott (Post 528779)
.500 is gonna be the record till we fire AG
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I knew you would be back with the same old garbage..disappointing loss..
that's all.. 16 games in and you want to fire AG before he gets HIS own recruits in.. grab some bench, udscott, you've certainly earned it::whiteflag:

TXFlyerFan 01-06-2018 11:48 PM

Not advocating firing AG but can we dispense a bit with the "he needs his own recruits" bit. It gets tiresome. Keith Dambrot has Duquesne at 12 - 4. Pretty sure most of the players aren't his. Lots of coaches win with the previous coach's players. Some don't. It's always a bit of a crap shoot but to pretend that he can't is utterly ridiculous. You play with the players you have, not the ones you wish you had.

Donniex3Era 01-07-2018 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan (Post 528783)
Not advocating firing AG but can we dispense a bit with the "he needs his own recruits" bit. It gets tiresome. Keith Dambrot has Duquesne at 12 - 4. Pretty sure most of the players aren't his. Lots of coaches win with the previous coach's players. Some don't. It's always a bit of a crap shoot but to pretend that he can't is utterly ridiculous. You play with the players you have, not the ones you wish you had.

How's that theory working out for AM at Indiana?
Or Shaka Smart at Texas? who they already want to fire
Or Coach K his first year at Duke? check the record
Or Wojo at Marquette?
I could go on and on and on.. let the guy get HIS recruits in..then make a rational decision.. or, is that an utterly ridiculous thought?

ud2 01-07-2018 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 528777)
Meanwhile VCU has a new coach and keeps rolling.....

Not exactly. They are projected to finish at rpi #113. So, no NCAAT or NIT for VCU this year. VCU is stumbling this year.

TXFlyerFan 01-07-2018 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donniex3Era (Post 528786)
How's that theory working out for AM at Indiana?
Or Shaka Smart at Texas? who they already want to fire
Or Coach K his first year at Duke? check the record
Or Wojo at Marquette?
I could go on and on and on.. let the guy get HIS recruits in..then make a rational decision.. or, is that an utterly ridiculous thought?

What part of I'm not advocating firing AG did you not get?

ud2 01-07-2018 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donniex3Era (Post 528786)
Or Wojo at Marquette?

Wojo made the NCAAT in year 3 at Marquette, and they might make it this year in year 4.

tirebiter 01-07-2018 01:12 AM

May just be my flawed memory but it seems to me that the Flyers perform poorly in afternoon games. Any stats on this over recent history?

jack72 01-07-2018 09:45 AM

Every loss is disappointing. Beside St Mary, Auburn and ODU the rest were not a given and resulted from poor play from our underclassmen, especially on the defensive end.

maddog07 01-07-2018 10:54 AM

One guy could beat us, Pipkins, and we let him run wild. How about a little strategy!!!!!

San Diego Flyer 01-07-2018 04:12 PM

He does not need all his own players!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan (Post 528783)
Not advocating firing AG but can we dispense a bit with the "he needs his own recruits" bit. It gets tiresome. Keith Dambrot has Duquesne at 12 - 4. Pretty sure most of the players aren't his. Lots of coaches win with the previous coach's players. Some don't. It's always a bit of a crap shoot but to pretend that he can't is utterly ridiculous. You play with the players you have, not the ones you wish you had.

More than his own players, he needs a full year with the SAME players, whomever they are.
A years worth of lifting, absorbing the offense, maturing, gaining strength and confidence.
Newbie coach with newbie staff, with newbie players. One Duane Cohill with a full year of the incumbents would be a great start. A stronger, smarter Kostas. We have to learn how to finish close games with all the players. My favorite Flyer went brain dead by not passing to Josh on the low blocks. Won't happen with more experience.

Unfortunately there will be a season full of highs and lows. It's in our DNA right now.


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