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Fudd 10-24-2010 02:42 PM

Dayton @ Cincinnati Game Thread (U.S. Bank Arena)
 
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University of Dayton @ Cincinnati
November 27, 2010 - TBA
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Being on the hotseat can bring out aggression.

Fudd 10-24-2010 04:35 PM


Rashad Bishop, 6-6 SR forward, 8.4 ppg


http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/87-ci...preview-168739




Conference Rank: #12 Big East Conference


2009-10: 19-16, 7-11
2009-10 postseason: NIT
Coach: Mick Cronin (61-68 at Cincinnati, 130-92 overall)


Final Projection:
Making shots will be the difference between a good year and a bad year for Cincinnati. Either way asking for an NCAA berth may be stretching it a little bit, but this team can build off their NIT appearance in 2010 with another one in 2011. That is pretty impressive considering the talent they lost. If they can hang tough with this relatively young team, the Bearcats will make a serious NCAA run in 2011-2012.

Projected Post-season Tournament: NIT

Projected Starting Five:
Cashmere Wright, Sophomore, Guard, 5.4 ppg
Dion Dixon, Junior, Guard, 4.9 ppg
Rashad Bishop, Senior, Forward, 8.4 ppg
Yancy Gates, Junior, Forward, 10.4 ppg
Ibrahima Thomas, Junior, Center, 5.8 ppg

Fudd 10-26-2010 12:12 PM

http://www.thehoopsreport.com/images...Cincinnati.JPG


Yancy Gates will try to lead Cincinnati to the NCAA tournament.

http://www.thehoopsreport.com/article.aspx?id=528

Cincinnati Bearcats
Last Season: 19-16 (7-11)
Key Losses: Lance Stephenson, Deonta Vaughn, Steve Toyloy
Head Coach: Mick Cronin

Projected Starting Lineup:
PG: Cashmere Wright 6-0 So.
SG: Jaquon Parker 6-2 So.
SF: Rashad Bishop 6-6 Sr.
PF: Yancy Gates 6-9 Jr.
C: Ibrahima Thomas 6-11 Jr.
Key Reserves: Dion Dixon 6-3 Jr. SG, Darnell Wilks 6-7 Sr. PF, Larry Davis 6-3 Sr. SG, Anthony McClain 7-0 C Sr., Sean Kilpatrick 6-4 SG Fr., Kelvin Gaines 6-10 C Fr., Justin Jackson 6-8 PF Fr.

Cincinnati definitely had an interesting offseason centered on guard Lance Stephenson (12.3 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 2.5 apg). Stephenson was one of the most documented freshmen last year and was expected to make the Bearcats an NCAA tournament-caliber team. It did not pan out for Cincinnati as it instead made the NIT. Stephenson had a solid year for a rookie, but was somewhat disappointing knowing his reputation. He shot just 22 percent from 3-point territory. Following a sub-par year to his standards, he said, "Hey, you know what? I don't think I'm quite as ready as people think I am." However, on April 7, Stephenson declared for the NBA draft and hired an agent. His decision didn’t turn out quite as well as he wanted to, as the Indiana Pacers selected him in the 2nd round, 40th overall.

It appeared the way it played in the non-conference that Cincinnati would be an NCAA tournament team for the first time since.....................

THirt 11-08-2010 08:39 PM

FWIW, game time is at 7 PM according to today's Jetway.

jcubspoe 11-09-2010 12:35 AM

And according to ESPN3 it's at 7 PM.

UDBaby 11-09-2010 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcubspoe (Post 188454)
And according to ESPN3 it's at 7 PM.

Thanks....been in touch with everyone even remotely connected to this game to find out the starting time.

longtimefan 11-09-2010 04:04 PM

7:00 is perfect! The OSU/Mich game is at noon, so my day is set.

AustinFlyer 11-10-2010 08:30 AM

Does any carrier provide ESPN3 as part of their TV line-up? I know ESPN3 is a website, but I've been hoping that one of the ISP/TV companies like TimeWarner or AT&T Uverse could provide the Internet stream as a television channel.

C-time 11-15-2010 07:41 PM

@Austin Flyer The only way to get ESPN3 is via computer, and I highly doubt it will ever be available as a TV channel.

I'm watching the UC vs Mt. St. Marys game right now and there are a ton of seats in 5/3 arena disguised as UC fans. I can't imagine us not having more fans than UC at Riverfront Coliseum(aka US Bank Arena). I'm also not very impressed with UC either. They are winning but they just don't appear to be playing hard. They just look like they're going through the motions.

ClaytonFlyerFan 11-15-2010 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=C-time;189480.

I'm watching the UC vs Mt. St. Marys game right now.[/QUOTE]

OK- I tried doing an ESPN3 trial run for when we have a game on worth watching. I do not even see UC listed as an option tonight. Any idea why or what I might be doing wrong. Strange you are watching and I can not even find on the ESPN3 website . Thanks

C-time 11-15-2010 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan (Post 189487)
OK- I tried doing an ESPN3 trial run for when we have a game on worth watching. I do not even see UC listed as an option tonight. Any idea why or what I might be doing wrong. Strange you are watching and I can not even find on the ESPN3 website . Thanks

I'm watching tonight's UC game on Fox sports Ohio.

C-time 11-15-2010 09:14 PM

Final Score UC 69 Mt. St. Marys (MSM) 59

MSM was down 19 at the half but fought their way back into it. MSM cut it to 4 with under a minute left but with MSM fouling at the end the margin got back up to 10. UC's on the ball defense was very poor the second half and they couldn't stop MSM's point guard from penetrating. MSM also did a good job on the boards and was only outrebounded by 7 by the much bigger Bearcats.

Kilpatrick had 21 to lead UC and Gates pitched in with 15.

Whacker 11-16-2010 12:55 PM

Also, for all his talk the last few years of wanting a pressing and running team and not having the roster to do it, Cronin actually had the full court press on and caused some turnovers last night. If they press Dayton it will be a rout for the Flyers. Dayton may have a few TOs from inexperience, but they generally have good ballhandlers (for the position) on the floor at all times.

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 06:09 PM

Pre game show on the radio! Go Flyers.

flyerfanatic86 11-27-2010 06:29 PM

I'm not seeing our game listed on ESPN 3 now. Maybe I'm just getting paranoid. Anybody else see it listed?

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 06:33 PM

Not listed on mine either, but not to worry...they do this. If it's not listed it will be, also check the right hand side of the screen...they list games there that aren't sometimes listed in their main list.

frisco flyer 11-27-2010 06:42 PM

Larry just said that Luke is dressed, but it is not clear if he will play. Good news regardless!

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 06:44 PM

Also, if you go to ESPN NCAAB homepage, then go to the schedule you'll see it's listed for the UD/UC game and you can click on the ESPN3 icon.

C-time 11-27-2010 06:48 PM

It's now listed on the upcoming list on ESPN3. Nobody freak out. It will work.

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 06:50 PM

Dayton/UC is now listed on the upcoming events.

C-time 11-27-2010 06:53 PM

Its on the live page now so you can click on it.

C-time 11-27-2010 07:03 PM

UC wearing the retros

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:09 PM

They look like they're playing scared

flyerfanatic86 11-27-2010 07:10 PM

I'm sick of these slow starts....

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:10 PM

They're being schooled bigtime--they look like they're not even ready for this

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:11 PM

The day we start off hot for a game is the day I'll die.....it will cost us. Probably tonight.

frisco flyer 11-27-2010 07:11 PM

Terrible start.
Why can't we ever start a game well?

FlyerFanatic08 11-27-2010 07:12 PM

wow...just wow..

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:12 PM

CW has zero skills. Nothing but an athlete.....

Flyer_Tom 11-27-2010 07:13 PM

To all those glad Kurt is gone think about the fact when it goes inside we have to double down and it is killing us from the perimeter...last year Kurt could handle the post.

Tom R

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:13 PM

3 points........3???????

stargeneral 11-27-2010 07:13 PM

way too many turnovers coupled with poor rebounding

frisco flyer 11-27-2010 07:14 PM

CW trying to do too much. Looking like last year's CW...and he dribbles of his foot...again!
The problem is that we havn't gotten any rebounds, so we can't push the ball and play the way we like to play.

flyerfanatic86 11-27-2010 07:14 PM

I know I'm preaching to the choir right now, but I just don't understand how we can come out playing as poorly as we do every game. We always seem cold to start a game and our defense doesn't clamp down like it should.

San Diego Flyer 11-27-2010 07:14 PM

Ok, UC has exposed us on our defensive weaknesses, and taken away our offensive preferences. Now what?

We're going to settle down, make a few adjustments, and get back in this thing.

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:16 PM

good grief Chris....

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:16 PM

tonight it seems these guys cannot play defense without fouling

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:17 PM

Wright to the bench having done NOTHING out there...NOTHING

Flyer'95 11-27-2010 07:18 PM

The pace is not really our style right now. Gotta get some buckets, press, and push the ball after a bucket or miss. It's very methodical so far.

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:20 PM

Sit Wright for the rest of this game....seriously, he's terrible.

flyerfanatic86 11-27-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer (Post 192504)
Ok, UC has exposed us on our defensive weaknesses, and taken away our offensive preferences. Now what?

We're going to settle down, make a few adjustments, and get back in this thing.

I hope you're right, but I haven't seen much evidence this week to prove that we're going to be able to do that. We already caught lightening in a bottle once at Miss. Not sure we can keep that up.

Esp. when Wright has demonstrated he is unable to create his own shot against a team with any talent at all.

FlyerFanatic08 11-27-2010 07:21 PM

wright continues to just force things. he has one move, try to drive around and out jump his defender

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:21 PM

This is a phucking joke

frisco flyer 11-27-2010 07:21 PM

Playing like we don't even belong on the court with these guys.
WTF?

bcross 11-27-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frisco flyer (Post 192513)
Playing like we don't even belong on the court with these guys.
WTF?

We don't. We suck this year.

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:23 PM

I wonder what Dickie V was drinking when he put CW on his preseason All American 3rd team.....???

Flyer'95 11-27-2010 07:23 PM

We've abandoned the pull-up jumper. Where'd it go? We're taking it too far into the teeth of the defense. Reminds me of the kansas game.

Too many to's, fouls, and giving up too many boards. Just looking overwhelmed out there right now.

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:24 PM

and another missed FT

DGO67 11-27-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frisco flyer (Post 192513)
Playing like we don't even belong on the court with these guys.
WTF?

Relax! Any team shooting 65% at the start always looks invincible.
We're not ready for the fork yet!

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:25 PM

CW just literally laid the foundation for a new arena from 3 feet out....wtf is wrong with this guy??

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:27 PM

Well, with CW playing this...we might not make the NIT this year.....pathetic....

get stomped a team that is predicted 12th in the Big East.

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:28 PM

CW sucks tonight

bcross 11-27-2010 07:28 PM

Hopefully we can host a game in the CBI. This team isn't even NIT worthy.

Flyer'95 11-27-2010 07:29 PM

We're not playing with patience on the offensive side of things. Forcing A LOT of things. Come on guys. Take a deep breath. Slow down on Offense. Pick it up on defense. We're stuck in the wrong gears on each side of the ball.

flyerfanatic86 11-27-2010 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGO67 (Post 192518)
Relax! Any team shooting 65% at the start always looks invincible.
We're not ready for the fork yet!

And when they aren't hitting, we're fouling them. Let's not pretend like offense exists in a vacuum. We're giving them a lot of these shots, and the shots we aren't giving them, we're fouling. This isn't the first time a team starts to light it up against our defense, even against the teams that are supposed to be among the worst on our schedule.

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiefaber455 (Post 192522)
CW sucks tonight

Tonight??? This guy is a senior that has barely increased his production in 4 years here...barely.

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:32 PM

The bus's ignition key is ready to be turned

FlyerFanatic08 11-27-2010 07:32 PM

well that will just about do it

C-time 11-27-2010 07:33 PM

This is pitiful!

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:33 PM

BG with 4 years of CW is going to go to ONE NCAA, ONE, ONE, did I say ONE, NCAA tourny....time for a change. We've seen this all too often. Superior players, terrible game plans and development.

C-time 11-27-2010 07:34 PM

I'm gonna watch Wayne vs Hilliard Davidson play some football. This hurts my eyes to watch.

Wayne is up 14-0 with 10 minutes left in the 2nd quarter.

FlyerFanatic08 11-27-2010 07:34 PM

parker becoming lowery, shooting it whenever he touches it

flyerfanatic86 11-27-2010 07:35 PM

We need to give Wright the red light for shooting at any time unless it's a dunk. We should probably give him the red light for dribbling the ball at all too. He's there to rebound.

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:35 PM

How the he!! does Wright miss a 12 foot jumper shot so badly?

buckeye rich 11-27-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic08 (Post 192532)
parker becoming lowery, shooting it whenever he touches it

I just sent this exact text to friend!

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:36 PM

CW misses another 14 foot jump shot.....a simple, wide open jump shot.

Flyer_Tom 11-27-2010 07:36 PM

Lets start a petition to see if BG and the boys will just end the season after tonight. I mean hell no team has ever played a bad game and gone on to be successful so whats the point. C'mon guys...am I happy with whats happening? Of course not but my gosh...not a CBI team no way we make the NIT...WOW. Its almost like there are 5 new players on this team and they are needing time to figure things out.

Tom R

Levelbest 11-27-2010 07:36 PM

Wow - is this team being exposed tonite. I had a feeling that the antics we displayed in our wins so far might show up and sure enough, we look completely flat and aren't playing d worth crap.

I'm still watching for a turn around - but anyone who doesn't see a little bit of a scary pattern emerging just isn't looking.

Here's hoping we somehow turn this disasterous start around.

San Diego Flyer 11-27-2010 07:36 PM

The wrong guys are shooting jump shots. Where are CJ, Paul, Benson? The other guys are breaking glass.

buckeye rich 11-27-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiefaber455 (Post 192535)
How the he!! does Wright miss a 12 foot jumper shot so badly?

He is an athlete, not a basketball player. Would have been one hell of a tight end at Ohio State!:D

Flyer_Tom 11-27-2010 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcubspoe (Post 192530)
BG with 4 years of CW is going to go to ONE NCAA, ONE, ONE, did I say ONE, NCAA tourny....time for a change. We've seen this all too often. Superior players, terrible game plans and development.


Good idea...lets not resign him.

frisco flyer 11-27-2010 07:37 PM

That was a freshman pass in the lane to CW where he could do nothing with the ball but shoot a jump shot.

At some point our guys are going to have to start playing like they have nothing more to lose. Maybe then we can make a run.

We are not playing with confidence right now.

jcubspoe 11-27-2010 07:38 PM

And Gates has barely played...lol.

bcross 11-27-2010 07:38 PM

This is BG's 8th year and there has been no improvement whatsoever. Time for a change.

FlyerFanatic08 11-27-2010 07:39 PM

we gotta cut this to like 10 pts before halftime single digits would be a plus

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:40 PM

Boy, Searcy really does have hands of concrete--and now with his 3rd foul

Flyer_Tom 11-27-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcross (Post 192546)
This is BG's 8th year and there has been no improvement whatsoever. Time for a change.

That's it I give up...

FlyerFanatic08 11-27-2010 07:42 PM

parker needs benched. hes taking poor shots

kiefaber455 11-27-2010 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic08 (Post 192547)
we gotta cut this to like 10 pts before halftime single digits would be a plus

I would like to keep it under 20

frisco flyer 11-27-2010 07:44 PM

Score doesn't show it, but we are starting to play better. Matching them point for point at this point, hopefully we can make a run now.

Searcy having a bad game so far. Benson is our best uinside player right now, and that is scary. We can't win if the Kav and Searcy don't play well.


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