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lhsgolf19 |
11-17-2013 07:18 PM |
Georgia Tech Game Thread
All I got to say is.... Beat BG! lol
Starting Lineup:
PG Solomon Poole 6'0" 190 SO Jacksonville, FL
SG Trae Golden 6'2" 205 SR Powder Springs, GA
SF Marcus Georges-Hunt 6'5" 219 SO College Park, GA
PF Robert Carter, Jr. 6'8" 247 SO Thomasville, GA
C Daniel Miller 7'0" 275 RS SR Loganville, GA
Take the momentum from Saturday's game and go out and pull the upset...
Go Flyers!!
Game will be streamed on ESPN3
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jack72 |
11-17-2013 09:02 PM |
Pts RPG
Trae Golden 15.3 2.0
Marcus Georges-Hunt 13.3 7.0
Daniel Miller 11.3 8.3
Kammeon Holsey 9.0 7.3
Robert Carter, Jr 9.0 7.3
Miller will be a load, but so will their whole front line .
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I heard the Archie Miller show on the radio tonight. Archie expects the frontcourt of GTech to be good. Said we are going to have to rebound well among other things.
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Sea Bass |
11-19-2013 08:05 AM |
Flyers played teams with quick 3 guard lineups the first 3 games. GT is decidedly different than that.
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Buster Goode |
11-19-2013 08:28 AM |
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rollo |
11-19-2013 09:22 AM |
For us to compete, we need to shoot >60% on 3's and they need to hit <60% on free throws. I don't see how our bigs will neutralize theirs and am expecting the refs to be quick with their whistles.
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Medford |
11-19-2013 10:07 AM |
I haven't seen GTech play a minute of basketball, so take this w/ a grain of salt, but based upon what I saw out of BG's teams at UD, the key to beating BG is to get back in transition, something the flyer's struggled with greatly in games 1 & 2, and limiting the amount of dribble penetration, another thing UD struggled with in games 1 & 2 and for about 10 minutes against STFUNY. Make it a half court game and if they can hit their jumpers, they've got a shot to win. BG's teams typically struggled at the free throw line, and I've read that this GTech team struggles there as well. Archie's teams have all been good free throw shooters, so don't be afraid to let the game get a bit ugly and make it a grinder. BG's teams were rarely good in a grinder type game, but were great in a high tempo game.
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Whacker |
11-19-2013 10:51 AM |
Medford and rollo are on the right track.
Dayton will need to get to the line and hit their threes b/c Tech guards very well inside the arc. They have plenty of size and aggressively help against the dribble-drive. Just like BG's Dayton teams, Tech is susceptible against a drive & kick offense, but Archie's Flyers have not shown the spacing or capability to pull that off. Dayton wants to dribble drive into the paint, which plays right into GT's defensive game plan. It is a very interesting match-up in that regards.
Another interesting match-up is on the glass. Dayton has shown to be an above-average offensive rebounding team like we thought, but Tech consistently controls the defensive glass.
On defense, I think you'll see Archie aggressively doubling the post. They will need to show different looks on defense in the post all game. If they stand behind their bigs all night it will get ugly. If Tech beats you behind the arc, then so be it.
BG still coaches offense like the Russians defended Stalingrad - no style or much substance, but through attrition. If Dayton doesn't turn it over, then GT will struggle to score. If the Flyers follow recent trends and cough it up too much they won't have a chance. Turnover margin is the single-most important stat to watch tomorrow night.
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rollo |
11-19-2013 11:08 AM |
We're going to find out real quick if Sibert is still worthy of that Top 50 HS ranking. He rarely saw significant minutes against worth opponents while at tOSU and after sitting out a year with us, the best competition he's played against in well over a year is Pierre...
GT and Gonzaga, I hope, is his coming out party.
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I watched maybe 10 minutes of GT's last game vs. Georgia at Georgia.
It looked like GT likes to run in transition as much as possible.
They've got some size, it looked like they rebounded well at both ends.
It didn't look like they were a very good outside shooting team.
It looked like they might have had a hard time driving to the basket out of their normal offensive sets. It didn't look like they got the ball into the low post enough either.
Their defense looked ok I guess. Georgia scored 71 points against them. Georgia couldn't hit any outside jumpers for the part of the game that I watched.
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Gem City |
11-19-2013 12:09 PM |
I haven't seen this Georgia Tech team either, but we are all familiar with BG and his coaching style. Knowing how BG and Archie both like to play, I don't like this match up at all. The game of basketball is all about match ups and at least on paper, I don't like how we match up. Tech just has more size and bulk.
BG's teams here at Dayton always struggled in the half court on offense. BG's teams played best when they could get turnovers and get out in transition. In order to beat a BG team you need to limit turnovers and force them to play offense in the half court. That may mean playing zone defense and packing it in the paint. Looking at the stats this Georgia Tech team isn't shooting the ball real well from the outside anyway. Will we stop dribble drive and pack it in the paint on defense? I don't know. Archie's teams haven't shown much zone or much of an ability to stop dribble drive. On top of that, we haven't taken care of the ball at all this year. Points off of turnovers will be a big stat in my book. Need to limit our turnover to 10 or 12 to win. Advantage Tech
The one thing you could always count on from a BG coached team was defense and rebounding. This UD team can shoot from outside and they'll need to hit from outside because we won't get much going to the rim and second chance points will be limited. I don't see us having an advantage picking up fouls driving to the hoop either. (not on the road and not against a BCS program) Advantage Tech
We need a big game from Kav. Tech has a size advantage, so we need Kav on the floor for both defense and rebounding. (offensive rebounding!) He has to stay out of foul trouble. We also need a solid game from Scott and man, do we need Jalen to come out of his funk. This game will be won or lost in the post. We don't need to win the battle inside but we can't get dominated on the inside. If we win this game it will be because of superior play on the wings. (Sanford, Sibert, and Pierre) These three need to crash the glass on both ends of the court. They need to slash to the rim and pull the trigger on the outside when they are open. A dominate performance on the wings and we could just outscore Tech to get the win.
Price will also be a big factor. He has played well to this point and we need another solid performance. We don't need a ton of points just steady play. He has played with aggression and confidence. He's not afraid to take it to the rim or shoot the outside three pointer. I've loved his game to this point in the season. He's been the biggest surprise for me this year. He's killed any debate of who should start at point. Here is hoping for a solid game. Good luck Flyers.
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Piqua Flyer '66 |
11-19-2013 02:38 PM |
I hope BG and GT run, run, run.
That is what AM/UD want to do.
Our half court off leads to very few good shots
Let's see what an open transitions game brings.
Go Flyers!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66
(Post 323784)
I hope BG and GT run, run, run.
That is what AM/UD want to do.
Our half court off leads to very few good shots
Let's see what an open transitions game brings.
Go Flyers!
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Really? AM's half court offense is better than BG's half court offense was. Force BG into a slowdown, half court game.
I'd really love to see AM play a zone defense the entire game.
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I want to see what happens if we start getting beat on the offensive glass. Will AM play the one shot and retreat game?
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Gem City |
11-20-2013 10:44 AM |
Along with playing some half court zone defense, I also like to see us mix in some full court pressure. Let's use some of that depth and see if we can't get some steals.
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To me, this is going to be one of the most interesting games for Flyer fans ever. Which coach will prevail? I can't wait to see the board discussion no matter which way the cards fall.
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 06:54 PM |
Price, Sibert, Pierre, DMO & Kav your starting 5
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DetroitFlyer |
11-20-2013 07:04 PM |
Cool. I got ESPN3 going on my 50" plasma TV. Seems to be working well. Now we just have to win.
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 07:05 PM |
Wow... that crowd is awful
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 07:08 PM |
Kav is awful... get him off the floor
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 07:09 PM |
not a game for Kav ... ugh
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flyerfanatic86 |
11-20-2013 07:10 PM |
It is amazing how bad Kav is on both sides of the floor.
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DetroitFlyer |
11-20-2013 07:10 PM |
Well.... Maybe not.... Down 7-0 to start....
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shocka43 |
11-20-2013 07:11 PM |
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 07:14 PM |
Down 11-6 at the first TV timeout... It does look like we are settling down
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:20 PM |
homer job starting
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 07:23 PM |
19-13 GT with 12 min left
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Swampy Meadows |
11-20-2013 07:23 PM |
Scoochie needs to learn how to finish. You ain't in HS any more Scooch.
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:23 PM |
these refs are freaking horrible....
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jack72 |
11-20-2013 07:24 PM |
About 3 or 4 very questionable calls including this last out of bounds. Neither of Pierre's fouls looked like a foul.
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FlyerGuyer |
11-20-2013 07:26 PM |
3 fouls on DP already? What the?!!
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dnutz77 |
11-20-2013 07:27 PM |
Pierre just got jobbed. He was in GREAT position.
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:28 PM |
Pierre shouldn't have been in the game. On the road with already questionable officiating....leave him on the bench Ryan.
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 07:28 PM |
announcer is wrong. He is wearing Kavs out on the outside. Keeps taking him off the bounce
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:28 PM |
Kav foul in 3..2...
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:29 PM |
there.
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dnutz77 |
11-20-2013 07:32 PM |
DMO needs to sit. STOP TAKING THREES.
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:32 PM |
Oliver please stop shooting threes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 07:33 PM |
Thank God for Sibert (12 pts).... UD down 4 with 7 min left in the half
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dnutz77 |
11-20-2013 07:34 PM |
The last call on Price was the worst call yet. Both guys were going for the ball. These refs are garbage.
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FlyerFanatic08 |
11-20-2013 07:34 PM |
apparently DMO didnt learn after last year he cant shoot 3's. then again i blame archie for allowing him to keep shooting em
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:37 PM |
lol...the mid-major label
our defense is less than average
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priceg75 |
11-20-2013 07:38 PM |
Interior defense continues to be terrible.
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 07:41 PM |
How bout that... UD leads by 1 with 4 min left
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Swampy Meadows |
11-20-2013 07:41 PM |
That's more like it
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ClaytonFlyerFan |
11-20-2013 07:42 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhsgolf19
(Post 324028)
How bout that... UD leads by 1 with 4 min left
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Wow, I would have guessed we were down by 15 reading through this game thread......
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priceg75 |
11-20-2013 07:43 PM |
Exterior defense has been better than expected since about 9:30 left.
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:43 PM |
Announcers are horrible.....Comparing this game of Ga Tech's to ours of IPFW.
You ignorant slut.
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FlyerGuyer |
11-20-2013 07:44 PM |
Turning up the intensity...creating turnovers into fast break transition buckets...that's when the Flyers are at their best...
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jack72 |
11-20-2013 07:44 PM |
Their turnovers of 10 to our 5 is the story.
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 07:44 PM |
other than Kavs the defense has been decent
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TA111 |
11-20-2013 07:44 PM |
Flyers have 8 steals so far.
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:44 PM |
I like Kyle Davis' energy tonight....he's been a spark
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 07:45 PM |
seems like they are students
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jack72 |
11-20-2013 07:45 PM |
I think Scott got beat twice also.
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:47 PM |
Kyle Dav-is clap clap clap clap clap...
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FlyerGuyer |
11-20-2013 07:47 PM |
Wow we finally have some depth. Freshmen getting some playing time...not missing a beat without DP so far...
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udstevied_D87 |
11-20-2013 07:47 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic08
(Post 324025)
apparently DMO didnt learn after last year he cant shoot 3's. then again i blame archie for allowing him to keep shooting em
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a few of them were when the offense was breaking down with not to much time left (shouldnt have been in the position to begin with) so don't blame him too much. his pretty good inside game today, assists, rebs, and hustle are a reason to keep him in
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CraSch |
11-20-2013 07:49 PM |
Score please
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FlyerGuyer |
11-20-2013 07:50 PM |
Aw man J-Rob probably shouldn't shot fake at the top of the key...lol...
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priceg75 |
11-20-2013 07:50 PM |
Pollard finally logging some minutes.
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:51 PM |
good lord turnovers on both ends
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 07:52 PM |
Vee with a last second shot... UD up 39-32 at the half
Sibert with 15
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 07:52 PM |
GT played awfully dumb. Silly TOs and their advantage is with their big guys but they weren't patient enough to keep getting them the ball. My guess is they will come out in the 2nd half and pound it inside
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priceg75 |
11-20-2013 07:52 PM |
39-32 UD at half. Really good final 10 minutes of the half.
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FlyerFanatic08 |
11-20-2013 07:52 PM |
turnovers on both sides...if dayton makes half of their shots they're up by 15. or if they cut their TO's down.
sibert has the green light the rest of the game. pierre cant get a quick foul coming out of the half.
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 07:53 PM |
Scoochie was very good even though he had no points... 2 reb, 4 assists, 4 steals
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TA111 |
11-20-2013 07:53 PM |
Vee with sweet shot to end the half. Flyers up 39-32. We must have 10 or 11 steals. Defense really getting after it.
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DetroitFlyer |
11-20-2013 07:53 PM |
Nice first half. Ton of hustle plays by the Flyers. Hopefully we can keep it up.
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FlyerFanatic08 |
11-20-2013 07:54 PM |
also the backside guy has to drop down if we're gonna front the post. GT is pulling everyone up towards the 3 line to try to get that lob over. did a better job of that player recognizing that towards end of the half
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 07:54 PM |
cant ever remember the Flyers getting 10 steals in a half.
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priceg75 |
11-20-2013 07:55 PM |
Sibert is ballin'. 7 point lead without Pierre. Just need to keep the intensity up and keep GT from gaining momentum. Have a feeling we are going to have to battle the refs as much as Tech down the stretch.
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bobber |
11-20-2013 07:55 PM |
The Flyers are plating very well. C'mon, let's win this thing.
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 07:55 PM |
no way you can start Kavs in the 2nd half.
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jack72 |
11-20-2013 07:55 PM |
Outshooting them 48% to 43%, rebounds 15 to 17 Jackets and turnovers are 12 to 7.
Not at all impressed with GT defense. In fact it is terrible.
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Buster Goode |
11-20-2013 07:56 PM |
Regardless of how the first couple games went, I will continue to back my claim that this team is FAR better than last year's team. This is a TEAM....last year, not so much.
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 07:56 PM |
Sibert can get a shot anytime he wants one. Haven't had anyone like that since Brob
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jack72 |
11-20-2013 07:59 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by lhsgolf19
(Post 324051)
Scoochie was very good even though he had no points... 2 reb, 4 assists, 4 steals
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You are right on about that. He should have 5 pts as two baskets rimmed out. How many times did London have 4 steals in a half?
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 08:01 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Goode
(Post 324061)
Regardless of how the first couple games went, I will continue to back my claim that this team is FAR better than last year's team. This is a TEAM....last year, not so much.
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the defense is much better. The reason they are forcing more TOs is that the gaps in the defense are much smaller and none of the perimeter defenders are getting torched off the dribble. Scoochie defense has improved by leaps and bounds and the last month. I think he figured out that if he wanted to play he better try to defend like Price.
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Bill McPeek |
11-20-2013 08:02 PM |
First 3 minutes of second half are important. Let's get off to a good start to the half!
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jack72 |
11-20-2013 08:03 PM |
Are these GT announcers?
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TA111 |
11-20-2013 08:05 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by jack72
(Post 324060)
Outshooting them 48% to 43%, rebounds 15 to 17 Jackets and turnovers are 12 to 7.
Not at all impressed with GT defense. In fact it is terrible.
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I think we are making it look bad.
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 08:05 PM |
crowd has made no noise. Like a funeral is going on.
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Sea Bass |
11-20-2013 08:06 PM |
flyers got a ton of ball and player movement in the first half. Must continue
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jack72 |
11-20-2013 08:07 PM |
Our guards have 27 pts, theirs 7.
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udstevied_D87 |
11-20-2013 08:08 PM |
love our perimeter defense that half...did a great job of getting in the passing lanes. It didn't just create some turnovers and fast breaks...but also forced them to take poor shots.
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udstevied_D87 |
11-20-2013 08:11 PM |
big slam from sibert!
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priceg75 |
11-20-2013 08:13 PM |
47-38 at the under 16 TO.
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FlyingArrow |
11-20-2013 08:14 PM |
9 point lead with the ball. Very nice.
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lhsgolf19 |
11-20-2013 08:14 PM |
Very solid start to the 2nd half... extended the lead at the first TV timeout
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bobber |
11-20-2013 08:14 PM |
This is as sharp as I have seen the Flyers in.......wow...a long time.
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priceg75 |
11-20-2013 08:14 PM |
Is it just me or is GT's defense terrible? They are not pressuring the ball at all. This doesn't seem like a BG defense.
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jack72 |
11-20-2013 08:14 PM |
Right where we left off... great defense and great offense!!
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Swampy Meadows |
11-20-2013 08:15 PM |
Clearly Kav needs to be on the bench when Miller is on the floor for Tech
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Wow. All game Sibert has been flying around the rafters. I had no idea he had that kind of hops. He would have right in with The Flight club!
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jack72 |
11-20-2013 08:17 PM |
Kav needs to take his soap on a rope and sit.
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shocka43 |
11-20-2013 08:19 PM |
Scott is the #1 big man and needs to stay the #1 big man.
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rollo |
11-20-2013 08:19 PM |
It's 8:18...I just got off work...heard the score and think I should go back!
Archie took my advice and went small....Genius!
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FlyingArrow |
11-20-2013 08:19 PM |
Wow - that foul on Oliver was the weakest foul ever. Good call, but just kind of - why did Oliver do that?
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anthonycharles |
11-20-2013 08:20 PM |
Devon Scott gives us SO much more in the post. He needs to start and get the majority of the minutes.
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