Flyer opponents 2018-19 and games of note
 

Looks like tonight is the start of the season for many teams the Flyers will face.

So far -

Fordham 106(!) City College of NY 58
Davidson, UMass, VCU, St Louis and Rhode Island win.

But GW loses to Stony Brook
Lasalle loses to Temple
George Mason loses to Penn.

Lots of games on ESPN+. Almost too many to follow them all. Good problem to have.

Go Flyers tomorrow night!

The LaSalle loss to Temple was not a surprise and George Mason was only a small favorite over Penn. The GW loss was pretty bad. Yes, they are predicted near the bottom of the A-10, but they were ahead 22-0(!) and still lost at home to an American East Conference team.

Surprises of the night:

La Tech 71 @ Wichita St. 58

Shockers were a 10 point favorite coming in.

Texas Southern 72 @ Baylor 69

Baylor was a 21.5 point favorite.

Duke beating Kentucky by 34.

Flyer foes:
Wisconsin 85 v. Coppin St. 63
#21 UCLA 96 v. IPFW 71
Western Michigan 89 v. Detroit 76
#11 Auburn 101 v. S. Alabama 58
Tulsa 73 v. Alcorn St. 56
Charleston 85 v. Presbyterian 73

Welders in a battle with Bucknell, down 1 with 3 to go in OT. Bison win 88-85

Ohio State over UC at UC yesterday, 64-56, to open UC's renovated arena...hard to beat anybody when you only score 56 points...UC only scored 18 points in the first half.

11/7/18

Flyer foes
Georgia Southern 139, Carver College 51

A10
Bucknell 88 @ St. Bona 85, OT

The aforementioned:
Ohio St. 64 @ Cincinnati 56

Ohio St. picked mid-pack in B1G, UC picked #2 in AAC. Not good for UC.

Sounds like UC either got the jitters or just had a bad night shooting. One guy scored 20 and the rest scored 34 on 22% shooting. Ouch. The Cincinnati Enquirer reporter said that he could say State played great defense, but that is really not what happened.

UC suffers from what once plagued the Buckeyes - a team full of great athletes, none of whom can put the ball in the basket!

GW goes to 0-2 with 69-61 loss to Siena

Tonight (Another Great night for the A10 lol)

VCU beat Hampton 69-57
Mason loses to American in OT to 78-75 (AU won 14 games in the last 2 season combined)
Davidson comes back to beat Dartmouth 79-76
Richmond loses to Longwood 63-58 (Yes Longwood lol)
UMass beat New Hampshire 104-75
SJU beat ODU 79-64

Making it more critical that the Flyers win all the games they should plus a few they aren't.

I've been saying that the A10 is further down than people think. Agreed that we need to have a fantastic nc record. We can only drop one or two outside of MSU, Auburn and Butler, and we have to win one of those.

Bid! Party of Juan!
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This was not a one-off type problem.

Lack of offense has been a consistent problem at UC for Cronin's entire tenure. Their defense is good, the offense not so much.

0-2 George Mason was picked to finish 4th in the preseason poll.

Embarrassing loss for Richmond to a little school out in the boonies, Farmville, just south of Richmond. Then Mason loses to some unknown neighbor, American.

How you lookin' so far A10? Not good, not good.

A few opponents played last night

#18 Miss St beat Austin Peay 95-67
Detroit lost at Temple 83-67
#11 Auburn beat #25 Washington 88-66

If that’s our conference’s 4th best team this year, then we’re in for a LONG season.
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The Davidson score is surprising to me. Dartmouth is a historically a bad program

Davidson was actually down 76-68 with 3:43 left and finished on an 11-0 run.

I did not watch the actual game but was watching the score and play by play on my phone. Davidson was down most of the game. Pulled it out at the very end. Tie score and 4s left. Dartmouth player fouls Grady taking a 3. He makes them all.

Polls schmolls . . . 😜

Stony Brook won @ South Carolina last night. Makes the GW loss look not quite as bad.

GW loss was awful. Blew a 22-0 lead.

We may win this league yet. SLU beat Troy (the university, not the high school) by 4 AT HOME, LaSalle lost to Lafayette by 1 AT HOME, and Fordham lost at Houston Baptist by 3. On the bright side, there were our Flyers manhandling Coppin State by 30 (in a game that wasn’t that close), St. Weldaventure beating Jackson State by 31, and Duquesne taking care of Bill & Mary by 14.
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They followed it up with a loss at home to Sienna. Next two are UVA and Michigan. Virtually certain to begin 0-4. The conference is looking pathetic from an early perspective.
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Checked the box score. They shot 16-34 FTs (47%), and two guys (Nolan & Toro) combined to go 4-16. I don’t thing Sean Finn, Matt Cooper, and Marco Pikaar combined could shoot FTs that badly.
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Buckeyes pay Fort Wayne today at 4.

Just looking at boxscores and the results but I don't see an A10 team that strikes fear into me

Purdue Fort Wayne loses to OSU 107-61. Hope the Flyers can do similar this week.

11/8 - 11/11

Flyer foes
IPFW 112 v. Earlham 51
Temple 83 v. Detroit 67
#18 Miss. St. 95 v. Austin Peay 67
Penn St. 87 v. N. Florida 72
#11 Auburn 88 v. #25 Washington 66
Ole Miss 90 v. W. Michigan 64
Tulsa 74 v. SC St. 52
Butler 90 v. Miami-O 68
Presbyterian 80 @ Tenn. Tech 65
#18 Miss. St. 77 v. Hartford 59
Ohio St. 107 v. IPFW 61

A10
Siena 69 @ GW 61
American U. 78 @ George Mason 75 (OT)
Longwood 63 @ Richmond 58
VCU 69 v. Hampton 57
Davidson 79 v. Dartmouth 76
UMass 104 v. New Hampshire 75
St. Joe's 79 v. Old Dominion 64
St. Bona 67 v. Jackson St. 36
Lafayette 77 @ LaSalle 76
Duquesne 84 v. Wm & Mary 70
SLU 62 v. Troy 58
Houston Baptist 75 v. Fordham 72
#5 Virginia 76 v. GW 57

Others
Buffalo 99 @ #13 W. Virginia 94 (OT)

PFW hung with OSU for the first half.

So IPFW loses to OSU by 46, but beats Earlham by 61. wow.

If I was a team that is supposed to be a high seed in the A10 this season, I wouldn't necessarily call it "fear", but I sure would take note of Obi and what he suddenly adds to almost every aspect of Dayton's play, especially with Josh Cunningham not even in the equation yet.

I agree we see a lot of promise and good things from Obi. But … lets wait and see how he does against guys his size, and can match his skill level.... We won't have to wait too long ... the Bahama teams got several of those kinda guys...

Earlham is Div3.

DID I read it right that Buffalo beat Huggy and WVU???

correctamundo

Buffalo blew the Flyers off their home court 5 or 6 years ago. It was ugly.

Buffalo beat Arizona in the NCAA Tourney last season by 21 points and returns 6 of their top 7 scorers. They are pretty good. It will be interesting to see what they do against Syracuse and St. Bonaventure.

What is the point? Capital is Div III and we beat them by only 18.

Just a heads up... 2 of our future opponents are playing each other right now

Detroit at Butler on FS1

Looking forward to seeing how Obi plays against Butlers Joey Brunk. Might be the first real test for our freshman stud.

Earlham are the quakers, now known as the society of friends. If their opponent scores a basket, they turn the other cheek and let them have the ball back.

#itsareligionnotamascot

11/12

Flyer foes
Butler 84 v. Detroit 63
Presbyterian 109 v. D-III Welch 57

A10
St. Joe's 78 v. Monmouth 63
VCU 72 v. Bowling Green 61
Niagara 80 v. St. Bona 72
Duquesne 89 v. UIC 88 (OT)

Comparing Capital to Earlham is like saying Duke and Coppin are both D1. I lived in Hanover and Huntington, and have seen this league play.

Earlham actually just announced they are suspending their football program because they've lost 53 games in a row! Maybe they should shutter that basketball program as well

https://www.pal-item.com/story/sport...on/1990050002/

Not too many people have even heard of Earlham College..... In just a happenstance opportunity right after I got out of college, I ended up playing summer amature baseball in Indianapolis with one of their former coaches... Del Harris... Yes he coached their baseball team in addition to basketball and was quite a good pitcher …. long before becoming a famous pro basketball coach. From Wikipedia:

Harris was coach at Earlham College in Richmond, Indiana for nine seasons, building a record of 175-70 (.714) as he led the Quakers to three Conference (2 Hoosier Collegiate Conf. & 1 Hoosier-Buckeye Collegiate Conf) titles and two Top-12 rankings. His best seasons were 1967–68 when they were ranked 6th in the NAIA final polls with a 25-3 record, making him a finalist for NAIA national coach of the year, and in 1970–71, when the Quakers achieved a record of 24-5. In that year they won the HBCC and reached the National Tournament, losing in the 2nd round. He remains, today, as the Earlham coaching leader in wins and winning percentage. He led the Quakers to 15 conference or tournament titles during his tenure.[2]

Now back to something we care about.....

Earlham is where former UD Football Coach, the late Rick Carter, got his start.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_E._Carter
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There's a classic matchup, DIII Welch could play Earlham with a trophy to the loser.

Wisconsin up 13 with 4 minutes to go at X.
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Badgers with the win 77-68

Great start to the Night for the Conference

URI lost to Charleston on the road 66-55
GMU lost at GA Southern (who we play later in the year) 98-89... Mason was up 54-34 at the half lol
Harvard won at UMass 74-71

SLU leads North Alabama by 5 in the 2nd Half

Looks like UD has a surprisingly decent chance to win the conference. Everyone looks terrible to questionable.

Teams in the A10 are going to have a tough time with JC and OBI.

The A10 is a dumpster fire this year already. GM 0-3? Overall record is 20-14 so far for all teams

The problem is these team sucking now but then playing like gang busters when they play us.
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A10 =
https://i.imgur.com/oOXDJDU.jpg

11/13

Flyer foes
Georgia Southern 98 v. Geo. Mason 89
W. Michigan 85 @ Oakland 77 (OT)
IPFW 111 v. D-III Manchester College 65

A10
Charleston 66 v. URI 55
Harvard 74 @ UMass 71
SLU 69 v. N. Alabama

Others
Wisconsin 77 @ Xavier 68
Cincinnati 73 v. UNC-Central 51
Georgetown 88 @ Illinois 80

Cal Baptist 70 @ Oral Roberts 69

Cal Baptist is playing just their second D-I game as a transitional school, ultimately will become a member of the WAC. They hit a nice shot at the buzzer to win this game that you can see below.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...meId=401086082

Always a good day when X loses, especially at home.

No sign of party boy Sam Miller at CofC ???

Dukes had miracle comeback to win in OT against awful UIC at home.

Is the conference off to a rough start????? We have only one more loss than the Big 12, Big East, Big 10, ACC, & Pac 12...………………………. COMBINED!!!!!!

George Mason was up 20 (54-34) at the half and lost by 9. WTF?!

Sam Miller transferred to C of C in January 2018. He will be eligible after his transfer redshirt year in January of 2019.

Xavier falls to 183 in the Sagarin ratings. Dayton is at 81.

The A-10 Non-Conference is Embarassing
 

The A-10 is setting itself up as a one bid conference this year by extraordinarily poor play in the non-conference portion of the schedule. Saint Joseph's appears to be the most competent
program to date.

You should read their message board, there is a Fire Dave Paulsen thread lol

btw all those Rhody fans who thought it would be an easy transition (contend for the A10 Title) from Hurley to Cox in the 1st year, even though they lost all those players... Welcome to Dayton 2017-2018, it could be a tough year for them... And I'm laughing lol, they got all fat and happy ha

St Louis looks like they're struggling to shoot the 3 so far

A10 currently #19 in the conference rpi rankings with just a 18-14 win/loss record so far.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html


:whiteflag::eek::frown::awman:

That's the metric I was searching for, but afraid to find it. Really a sad predicament. We tried to help by unloading Coppin State, but alas, no success. An RPI killer.

I don't think the A10 is as bad as the record so far indicates, but man what a terrible start for the conference.

Looks like every team in the a10 is beatable. If the Flyers stay healthy they could have a good run. Opportunity is knocking...

19 is pretty bad but I see the Horizon League is #32 at 3-19.

Buffalo is ranked #25 in the AP Poll this week.

The Big10 is looking loaded this year
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Or the Big East is in for an off year. Getting killed in the big10 vs bigEast
challenge

A10 tonight 1 - 1
Richmond beats St Francis (Bklyn)
La Salle loses to Florida

In other games of interest, AMs Hoosiers defeated #24 Marquette to move to 3-0
#8 Villanova killed by #18 UM 73-46

11/14

Flyer foes
Navy 77 v. Coppin St. 58
N. Florida 95 v. Edward Waters 83
#9 Auburn 103 v. Mississippi College 52

A10
Richmond 88 v. St. Francis (NY) 66
Florida 82 v. LaSalle 69

Others
#18 Michigan 73 @ #8 Vllanova 46
Wright St. 84 v. Toledo 74
IUPUI 76 @ Boston College 69
Radford 63 @ Notre Dame 60
Indiana 96 v. #24 Marquette 73

Not sure what’s worse right now:
-Being an A10 supporter, with moderate expectations, and seeing your Conference brethren losing winnable games by a few points to lower-level opponents; or
-Being a Big East supporter, with high expectations, and seeing your Conference brethren losing games by large margins to opponents who were your perceived “equals”.

I know I’d rather have high expectations and meet them, but this does put an interesting perspective on things.
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I'd rather be getting beat by good teams, vs getting beat by teams closer to DII talent.

Comments on scores:
1. What happened to Nova? That is a stunning loss!
2. IUPUI beat an ACC team!!!!!!!
3. Radford upsets Notre Dame!!!!!!!
4. Hoosiers crush Marquette...is Archie getting things in order???

Talk about parity...it is going to be an interesting season, to say the least.

St. Joe's blows out Wake Forest in game 1 of the Myrtle Beach (formerly Puerto Rico) invitational.

Flyers and Their Opponents Ranked
 

1. Auburn 2-0
2. Virginia 2-0
3. Oklahoma 2-0
4. Stanford 2-0
5. Butler 2-0
6. Mississippi State 2-0
7. Saint Joseph's 2-0
8. Florida 2-1
9. VCU 3-0
10. Wisconsin 2-0
11. Dayton 2-0
12. Georgia Southern 1-0
13. Rhode Island 1-1
14. Davidson 2-0
15. Duquesne 2-0
16. Saint Louis 3-0
17. George Mason 0-3
18. Western Michigan 2-1
19. Tulsa 2-0
20. Richmond 1-1
21. St Bonaventure 1-2
22. UMASS 2-1
23. North Florida 0-2
24. Presbyterian 1-1
25. Middle Tennessee State 0-1
26. Purdue-Fort Wayne 0-2
27. George Washington 0-3
28. La Salle 0-3
29. Detroit-Mercy 0-3
30. Fordham 0-1
31. Coppin State 0-3

Stanford is 2-1... NC dominated them.

Early returns seem to be:
-B1G could have a very good year;
-ACC and Big East might be in for down years, compared to recent history; and
-The A10 Tourney will be a dogfight, as teams compete for the only bid that’s likely to come to our Conference.
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Davidson 57
Wichita St. 53

Davidson is now 3-0 on the young season and one of the very few bright spots for the A-10

I just checked the conference standings, and there’s a handful of schools that are doing OK so far, record-wise. In addition to Davidson, other undefeated teams include our Flyers, SLU, St. Joe’s, VCU, and Duquesne. But yes, there are some real dumpster fires at the bottom of the conference, with LaSalle, George Mason, and GW all being winless at this point.

We may yet get 2 or 3 teams in The Dance, but the margin for error is parchment-thin
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A young, hungry and athletic Ohio State team won at Creighton last night and is playing like a true team. With wins at UC and Creighton, they are going to surprise a lot of teams this season.

Holtman is a great coach...nobody in C'bus is upset that they lost out on Archie.

11/15

Flyer foes
Presbyterian 102, Boyce College 49 (NCCAA Div. II, yes NCCAA)
Detroit @ Cal cancelled due to wildfires

A10
St. Joe's 89 v. Wake Forest 69 at Myrtle Beach
Davidson 57 v. Wichita St. 53 at Charleston

Others
Iowa 77 v. #13 Oregon 69 in NYC
UConn 83 v. #15 Syracuse 76 in NYC
Northeastern 68 v. Alabama 52 in Charleston
Ohio St. 69 @ Creighton 60

Brian Gregory is 2-0 on the young season, first time that program has started 2-0 since 2014. Not great competition but still, happy for him.

More Big Ten wins, and ACC and Big East losses. Could be a banner year upcoming for the regional P5 schools.
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Davidson had an odd squeaker over Wichita State 57-- 53. Neither team shot well, except Davidson's stud player threw down 33 points with a bunch coming at the line. And he took over the game by scoring the last 12 points.

Remember the name Gudmundsson.

Their real stud is Grady and he was held to only a few points I think, which is the most impressive part about the win. WSU looks to be in for an usually rough year.

Yes, I agree, Holtmann is a great coach. I think that he will produce Matta-like results or better in Columbus. He seems really classy too, very likeable IMO.

Crap. We are going in the wrong direction. Down to #22. I expect this to get turned around shortly.

Nice Slate of A10 Games today:

SJU vs. UCF (Myrtle Beach)
Fordham vs. FIU
Davidson vs. #23 Purdue (Charleston)
Richmond vs. IUPUI (who just upset BC in BC on Wednesday)
UMass vs. Howard
URI vs. Harvard

with NET, RPI is generally useless (always been useless but used by committee in past so up to now has been useless but important). Advanced metrics are key now, kenpom has A-10 #9 conference behind P-5, BE, AAC, and WCC (Gonzaga, St. Mary's, etc.). Barely ahead of Mountain West and Missouri Valley.

UCF and 10 foot tall Tacko Fall lol beat SJU 77-57

Fair enough, I am glad to hear that the A10 is #9 on kenpom.

I just went out to my garage and got my crowbar out to open my wallet with and bought a one year subscription to kenpom.com for $19.95.

I guess that I will have to get with the program regarding this newfangled, high tech, statistically-advanced NET rating system.

But, I still think all of this NET subterfuge is just being used as an excuse to job the non-p5 teams.

Tulsa beats always tough Cal Baptist 82-79

Right, until IU beats them.

Just through some quick browsing of kenpom, there is a lot of information on there that I have never seen elsewhere...looking forward to exploring kenpom further...it is a different way of analyzing college basketball.

Please don't become one of those "born-again" statisticians! :eek: :)