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Old 03-30-2017, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ruechalgrin View Post
Totally agree with m21eagle45 and would like to see facts from UD2 and OSU Flyer. Here are some facts:

(1) Anthony Grant's average kenpom rating is almost the same as Archie Miller's whereas Brian Gregory's was materially lower. BG's average kenpom rating was 87 in 8 years at Dayton with a range of 26 to 131; Archie Miller's average kenpom rating in 6 years was 53 with a range of 39 to 59; Anthony Grant's average knepom rating at VCU/Bama was 58 with a range of 26 to 86.

(2) Anthony Grant took VCU to a much higher level than Jeff Capel whereas Shaka Smart moved it up nicely, but not close to the jump made by Grant. Capel averaged #107 in kenpom and #4 in conference play. Grant took that up +48 spots to #59 average in kenpom and #1 in conference play. Shaka kept the momentum going, but it slowed down increasing +21 spots to #38 average but decreasing - 2 spots in conference to an average of #3.

(3) Grant is a great recruiter and now his OKC experience will . Grant has had bad classes at both VCU and Alabama. Just one example, he had the #6 class in the nation in 2013. http://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/...ecruiting.html

(4) I do think Archie is a better Xs and Os guys as he has won more close games and the feedback from players, assistants, and neutral observers is that Archie is a masterful strategist and tactician.

(5) Archie's record in the NCAA is better than Grant's, but Anthony had 3 of 4 games versus top 15 teams where he was 1-2; whereas Archie was 0-3 versus top 15 teams. Draw matters and Archie has had better overall draws. Archie was 5-4 in NCAA Tourney games whereas Anthony Grant is 1-3 in NCAA games, but two big caveats:
(a) Anthony played #10 Duke, #11, Pitt, #12 UCLA, and #28 Creighton -- Archie played #19 Ohio State, #18 Syracuse, #34 Stanford, #3 FL, #47 Boise State, #27 Providence, #11 Ok. St., #27 Syracuse, and #8 Wichita State. ARCHIE HAS NEVER BEATEN A TOP 15 TEAM IN THE NCAA TOURNEY, HE WAS 0-3. Anthony Grant was 1-2 versus top 15 teams in the NCAA Tourney and lost the other 2 games in OT and by 1. Archie honestly got killed by FL and OK, but Wichita St was close. Archie was 2-0 versus teams 16-25, Grant was 0-0, Archie was 3-1 versus teams 26-50 whereas Grant was 0-1.
(b) I would chalk it up to a combination of luck and skill, but Archie beat Ohio State by 1, Syracuse by 2, and Boise State by 1. Grant lost to Pitt in OT, UCLA by 1, and Creighton by 1. I truly believe Archie a better X and O coach, but he was lucky in these games and Grant was unlucky. A couple different bounces of the ball and Grant would be considered a much better coach.

I agree with other posters, let's get the facts on the table, not wild speculation.
Thank you!

While this is not an indication that Grant will be successful, it is absolutely an indication that calling the hire disastrous is utter foolishness. There was absolutely no candidate including Grant that was a lock, this cannot objectively be viewed as a bad hire. It's been a highly emotional week and there is plenty of room for differences of opinions. But most of our opinions are just gut feelings based on very limited insight... often based on the very limited insight of other people on this board. But the histrionics of a couple knuckleheads with no basis in fact really sucks especially when it targets one of our own.

Two quick side notes:

I lived down the hall from AG my Soph year. He was a nice polite kid (unlike me who chose my screen name for a reason).

Having lived and worked in Alabama for 4 years, I can say with complete confidence... it shouldn't be held against anyone!
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8 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Bucketnight For This Totally Excellent Post:
CvilleFlyer (03-30-2017), Flyer 86 (03-30-2017), GoFlyer (03-31-2017), m21eagle45 (03-30-2017), MD Flyer Pride (03-30-2017), ruechalgrin (03-30-2017), Sid Louick (03-30-2017), troj (03-30-2017)
 
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