Originally Posted by oldfan
Why does X get a pass in the criticism. The excuse is that he must be hurting since we know he is really really good. The basis for this opinion is that he was good last year therefore it must be he is hurt. Also it does not hurt that he is a hometown product.
I for one was unimpressed with X's performance last year. He was good at times but for as many of those times that he was good he was bad twice as much. His entry in the game last year meant the defense went sour and the other team usually outscored the Flyers despite X ability to hit the three point shot.
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Originally Posted by Gazoo
Is there a way to objectively measure weather XW gave up more points while he was on the floor last year than he accounted for? Something like a . . . + for the points scored while he's on the court and a - for the points given up?
I feel like there's a lot of revisionist history going on around here.
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Originally Posted by Figgie123
2016-17 Yearly Average Plus/Minus Stats
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ud | prevavg | curravg | avtime | diffavg | stddev | effect
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CCoo | 10.310 | 10.310 | 31:22 | 0.000 | 9.709 | 13.151
SSmi | 9.438 | 9.438 | 31:11 | 0.000 | 9.923 | 12.109
KPol | 8.192 | 8.192 | 25:51 | 0.000 | 9.691 | 12.681
XWil | 6.625 | 6.625 | 22:53 | 0.000 | 9.497 | 11.577
KDav | 5.633 | 5.633 | 27:41 | 0.000 | 11.017 | 8.139
RMik | 3.594 | 3.594 | 20:43 | 0.000 | 11.191 | 6.941
DDav | 2.968 | 2.968 | 20:50 | 0.000 | 12.370 | 5.699
JCun | 2.727 | 2.727 | 15:29 | 0.000 | 9.084 | 7.043
JCro | 1.594 | 1.594 | 13:16 | 0.000 | 9.241 | 4.805
SMil | 1.385 | 1.385 | 12:05 | 0.000 | 5.934 | 4.584
JWes | 0.000 | 0.000 | 00:53 | 0.000 | 0.000 | 0.000
JPar | 0.000 | 0.000 | 00:53 | 0.000 | 0.000 | 0.000
JBon | 0.000 | 0.000 | 00:27 | 0.000 | 0.000 | 0.000
TLan | -0.556 | -0.556 | 05:52 | 0.000 | 5.067 | -3.784
JGru | -0.667 | -0.667 | 01:13 | 0.000 | 2.318 | -21.868
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oldfan and others like him: can we now stop with the "XW wasn't that good last year as a sophomore, I'm not sure why we expected him to be any good this year as a junior" BS? Because it's BS. Not only was he 4th on the team as a sophomore, (if I'm reading those numbers correctly) he was the most consistent!
To be that productive as a sophomore is pretty darn good. And frequently it's the transition to the junior season where players show real progress. So yes, we were expecting to see a lot from him this year, and no, it was not unrealistic to expect that.
I think there are reasons--PG play, injury, coaching conflicts--but XW just not being that good is not one of them.
