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Old 04-19-2018, 04:13 PM
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Even after the explanation, I still say no call.

The rulebook does not address the given situation directly. It addresses traveling for players who are standing. And it says you cannot fall to the ground without maintaining a pivot foot. Rule 9-5.
http://www.ncaapublications.com/prod...loads/BR18.pdf

But the situation of gaining control of the ball while diving and on the ground is not in Rule 9-5. So the given situation is covered by the case book. The relevant case is A.R. 201-3.
http://www.ncaapublications.com/prod...ds/BKBCB18.pdf

According to the case book, you're allowed to gain control while sliding. After that, you're not allowed to try to get up or allowed to roll over. The rulebook and case book does not define a pivot foot for a person who dives to the ground. The particular case doesn't mention a pivot foot at all, and the rulebook gives details about how to determine the pivot foot for a standing player, but not for a player diving to the ground. If there is no pivot foot, then as long as the player doesn't try to stand up and doesn't roll over (the two violations defined in case A.R. 201-3), they can't travel.

Rule 9-5.4 says:
Art. 4. A player who catches the ball while moving or ends a dribble may stop
and establish a pivot foot as follows:
a. When both feet are off the playing court and the player lands:
1. Simultaneously on both feet, either may be the pivot foot;
2. On one foot followed by the other, the first foot to touch shall be the
pivot foot;
3. On one foot, the player may jump off that foot and simultaneously
land on both, in which case neither foot can be the pivot foot.
Rule 9-5.4 seems to not apply to the diving player since a diving player doesn't land on any feet at all... so none of the 3 cases apply. However, if "landing" on feet simply refers to the first foot to touch the ground then it would apply. In that case, a pivot foot would be determined. But there's still no travel because you are allowed to lift the pivot foot as long as you pass before it is back on the ground (9-5.5a). It says nothing about the player having to be in the air or not allowed to be on his back - he just can't put the foot back down.

Rule 9-5.7 does not apply because it is about a player with an established pivot foot falling to the ground without maintaining the pivot foot. It is not about a player on the ground establishing a pivot foot.

But things may be different at the high school level.

Last edited by FlyingArrow; 04-19-2018 at 04:15 PM..
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