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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer We don't win enough. If St Louis and Dayton the success on the court that Butler, Creighton and Xavier had we'd be in the Big East

Generally true, but IMHO not entirely. I say that for 3 reasons:
1) Both UD and SLU did a lot of winning since @ 2010-11. SLU had Big Rick (RIP) and we had Archie. Both programs were at least on a par with Creighton during that time, yet Creighton got the nod over SLU & UD. Granted, neither has seen the extended success that Creighton has, but both programs have had their successes within the past decade.
2) Regarding bias against the Marianists, I believe there is some, at least among the old guard. As I’ve said elsewhere, my mom taught at UD for 45 years, and when the subject of our “friends” on Victory Parkway would come up, she’d say “The Jesuits really know where to find the money.” She didn’t mean it as a compliment, and I’m confident that the _avier folks thought of UD as the snot-nosed little brother.
3) My daughter is a SLU grad, and she attended while Fr. Biondi was University President. A good guy, and a good leader, but not necessarily a “party-line” leader. I’m sure he pi$$ed-off some Jesuit brass along the way.
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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.