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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer Facilities and fan supports an ingredient but if you're not consistently winning across coaches it doesn't matter. There's no guarantee on their side the Dayton wouldn't be a bottom feeder. Dayton and St Louis have flashes of successes but consistent enough or across multiple coaches. What value does either program bring to the Big East? They've got a national title 5-6 bids to the NCAA's every year. To them it's no guarantee the program does anything and they have to cut us in on NCAA/Fox money I discount the Jesuit angle or Xavier doesn't want to share Ohio angle. In 2013 when the decision was made Creighton had 9 NCAA appearances since 1999. That's more than Dayton and St Louis put together in that time span.

Again I can't argue your points, but play the game with me- presuming the BE MUST HAVE an 11th/12th team to appease the TV gods- who meets the criteria if not UD or SLU? I'd argue no one, but we'd still get passed by for another school.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.