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Old 12-29-2016, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Beatty Town Coach View Post
There you fellas go again, I never said UK, UCLA, or IU weren't any good. Rather you illigitimatly put that in my mouth. Nice try, interesting reading on your part, but not true.

Okay top 50 or 100 counts as credibility within RPI SOS or who you play; but your individual RPI rankings don't count or are meaningless???; and the NCAA fully recognizes this phenomenon, and pauses to remind themselves that your opponents RPI rankings really means something, but your specific ranking is worthless data????????

It's hard, if not impossible to take this seriously. It's down right absurd.

So where do you think IU ends up RPI wise on Selection Sunday? They are currently 134.
Indiana likely will finish (about 80-85% confidence) between 13 and 33 RPI with a most likely RPI of 24. See http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Indiana.html By the way, this was pre their loss to Nebraska and later today will be updated.

Yes the committee has been pretty clear that individual RPI ranking number is becoming less and less important in seeding and selecting teams. More important is the absolute number of top 25/50 wins and to a lesser extent top 100 wins. See Texas absolute ranking of 51 in RPI in 2015 and 3-12 top 50 and 6-14 top 100 and they were not even in the first four! See Indiana 63 absolute ranking and 4-10 top 50 and 7-13 top 100. Committee is more concerned about absolute number of top 50/100 wins, particularly top 25/50 wins then record (Texas and Indiana had some big top 25 wins in 2015). As a reminder, Dayton 29 absolute ranking in 2015 with 3-4 top 50 and 8-7 top 100 and Dayton was last team in! See http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2015/nitty-clear

They also claim RPI is one of many factors and they also look at sagarin, kenpom, etc. But they have a material bias in that when they have the nitty gritty report and look at top 50/100 wins and 101+ losses, they use RPI rankings of teams to categorize wins/losses. It is absurd in that there is not statistical difference between 45 and 55 RPI ranking, but the way the data is presented in the nitty gritty report makes such a distinction important. To add to the absurdity, the NCAA Committee's use of top 50/100 teams does not account as much for where the game was played which is even more absurd (they list the information, but default really quick to top 25/50/100 wins). Beating the #90 team away is the same as #50 neutral which is the same is #20 home according to kenpom (this gives big advantage to P5 schools as they play a lot of home games versus top teams).

So please forget most of the conventional wisdom we all have heard about RPI. The NCAA Committee has moved materially the last years.

Beatty Town Coach, you might want to refrain from loaded comments like "It's hard, if not impossible to take this seriously. It's down right absurd."

Last edited by ruechalgrin; 12-29-2016 at 05:14 PM.. Reason: Note rpiforecast will be updated today
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