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Old 04-13-2012, 12:27 AM
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OT - Tough for Recruits and players at Utah

Utah coach Larry "Krystkowiak signed five players in November for next season, a class he said he would like to increase by two, despite only having two scholarships available of the 13 the NCAA allows."

"That means Krystkowiak and his players will have hard conversations over the next two weeks, the coach said, and come to decisions about who will return."

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/utes/53...-utah.html.csp

6 Utah players were subsequently released from their basketball scholarships

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ball-team.html

Krystkowiak recently pulled a scholarship offer from a recruit who had signed a letter of intent last November

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ball-recruit/1
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:44 PM
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I hope this hurts their recruiting in the future.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:45 PM
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Oh how the mighty have fallen since Rickypoo left Salt Lake. Utes won 6 games last year. I think the coach realizes he's got a huge job to do and his contract may not be long enough to get it done unless he drops the dead weight and starts over.

And even then maybe this coach isnt smart enough to get it done. I dont know much about him.
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:23 PM
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The players transferring out must be doing so voluntarily, I thought the new 4 year scholarships were supposed to stop things like this from happening.
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From Coach Krystkowiak:

"At the end of the day sometimes you have to make some decisions for young men that won’t otherwise do them on their own," he said.

He added: "One of the main ingredients is making sure that we do right by these kids. And a lot of that involves being honest and up-front. But, having said that, part of my responsibility is our program, too, and making sure we’re doing what’s right for the program."

From USA Today:

" ... scholarships are on a year-to-year basis and not automatically renewed by colleges."
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:35 PM
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This issue came up earlier in another thread.

http://www.udpride.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=112

http://www.udpride.com/forums/showth...arships&page=2

This is a new rule that was just adopted. It is at the discretion of the individual schools as to whether the scholarships are multi-year(2-4 years)scholarships. Maybe Utah is choosing to not make these scholarships multi-year scholarships.

Very hard for me to believe that all of these players are leaving voluntarily.



From my earlier post:

I'm pretty sure, this article says that it is technically at the discretion of the school as to whether the scholarship is a multi-year scholarship. I was wrong, the scholarships can actually be awarded for any where from 2-4 years, not just 4 years. I am assuming that all schools would give out 4 year scholarships so as to give the impression that they stand behind the player 100% and are not going to cut him/her loose at the first opportunity when they find a better player.

There was an override vote in February 2012 to repeal this rule, but the override vote failed, so the new rule is still in effect. This new rule was also adopted in conjunction with paying the players approximately $2,000/year from now on for incidental expenses not covered by their scholarship. The $2k rule is still under review. However, due to a later delay/review in implementing the $2k rule after the $2k rule was first passed into rule:

"Recruits who signed national letters-of-intent in November will be able to collect the money they were promised. Those who sign in February and April will not get that money, said David Berst, the NCAA's vice president for governance in Division I."

"The board also approved a measure that will give individual schools the authority to award scholarships on a multiple-year basis.

Under the current model, those scholarships are renewed annually and can be revoked for any reason. If adopted, schools could guarantee scholarships for the player's entire career and would be unable to revoke it based solely on athletic performance. Scholarships could still be pulled for reasons such as poor grades, academic misconduct or other forms of improper behavior.

Ridpath said he's personally been involved with 50 or 60 appeals cases after a coach pulled a player's scholarship.

'The reason usually is they find a prettier girl to bring to the dance,' he said. 'If you're Frank Beamer or Nick Saban, they make a lot of money, and they should be able to coach that kid up.'"

"Critics of the annual scholarships had said athletes were unfairly losing them for poor performance or after they had become injured."


http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...l-2000-stipend

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...-rules-changes

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...an-falls-short

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I am not aware of any school that has elected to offer scholarships on any basis other than year to year. There probably are some, but the vast majority stuck with the annual renewal.
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I am not aware of any school that has elected to offer scholarships on any basis other than year to year. There probably are some, but the vast majority stuck with the annual renewal.
From the earlier thread:


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It definitely was passed for football and would assume that it did for basketball as well. I know the Big10 was a big supporter of it other than Wisconson. There have been several articles about football coaches at places like Michigan taking advantage of this rule for the class they just signed this past Feb.
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Good point, seems much easier to deal with having some players you don't want in football vs. basketball. 85 scholarships vs. 13 scholarships.

I still don't like coaches running guys off like this though, this type of stuff seems more consistent with pro sports than college sports.
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