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Not sure why people on this board feel like we need to recruit over Moulaye before he officially plays a single game for us. If we do that, he’ll be in the transfer portal before the “Welcome to UD “ thread is up on UDPride! I don’t think any of us want to see that happen. I’m very optimistic about him being a solid player for us on Day One. If there are reasons for concern, I would be interested in hearing what they are.
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I don't think the desire for another capable big is a knock against Moulaye. Anyone who saw him in the exhibition knows what he's capable of and assumes he will be productive. However, he alone does not solve our need for bigs. As far as commodities (forget "proven") he and Jordy are literally all we have outside of true freshman. Most people didn't think much of Matos transferring, but that loss only exacerbates this issue. And yes I know Matos is a "guard," spare me that line of logic please.
This goes hand-in-hand with our love affair of Chase returning. It is such a perfect and eloquent solution that despite its unlikeliness we can't help but cling to it.
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Originally Posted by frisco flyer
Not sure why people on this board feel like we need to recruit over Moulaye before he officially plays a single game for us. If we do that, he’ll be in the transfer portal before the “Welcome to UD “ thread is up on UDPride! I don’t think any of us want to see that happen. I’m very optimistic about him being a solid player for us on Day One. If there are reasons for concern, I would be interested in hearing what they are.
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It wasn’t meant to be a knock on Moulaye. Same with Zimi. Both have such a high ceiling. But to expect them to dominate next year as a freshman (rs) is a big stretch.
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college sports he was referring to,
just to be clear...
He has no say, at all,
in professional sports
makes sense
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Updated today...6 seed for Rutgers, still seems strange seeing them that high up.
Ole Miss and SMU both in the next four out...Houston is the only AAC team.
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If you were hoping for live evaluation periods in AAU, that dream is basically dead. If you were hoping for unofficial/official visits in June or July, that is all sorts of dead.
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The NABC, WBCA and NCAA are collaborating to identify alternative recruiting opportunities for the class of 2021 and beyond.
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does this mean Coach Grant, or a member
of his staff could not go there, and work him
out in a gym where he lives...
is that not feasible, probably not just asking..
they can't visit here, can we visit there...
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does this mean Coach Grant, or a member
of his staff could not go there, and work him
out in a gym where he lives...
is that not feasible, probably not just asking..
they can't visit here, can we visit there...
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The NCAA has extended its recruiting dead period through at least June 30th, per release.
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Originally Posted by frisco flyer
Not sure why people on this board feel like we need to recruit over Moulaye before he officially plays a single game for us. If we do that, he’ll be in the transfer portal before the “Welcome to UD “ thread is up on UDPride! I don’t think any of us want to see that happen. I’m very optimistic about him being a solid player for us on Day One. If there are reasons for concern, I would be interested in hearing what they are.
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I doubt transferring would be on his mind. Few kids want to sit out a second year.
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Very cool. Speaking of schedules, I can't recall an off-season where we knew this much about the schedule and it looked this good so early. In years past I recall waiting until the very end (unless you were on Pride+) to hear some of these games announced. With the addition of the SMU H/H I don't think there's anything else to look forward to outside of who the buy games will be.
Conway (3)
Miss. St.
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The vote to change the transfer rules is today.
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Anyone see his story yesterday?
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The vote to change the transfer rules is today.
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The vote is this afternoon.
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Sources: The NCAA Division I Council voted to approve voluntary athletic activities in football, MBB and WBB to start June 1st and go through June 30th. There had been a moratorium on that through May 31st. Other sports will be acted on on a later date.
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Huge. We've seen with the 14-15 team and the year the Bonnies ended up in the First Four this conference might have the smallest margin of error in college hoops
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Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf. |
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Any reasoning for this been offered? Since that means both teams still have the date open,
wouldn't another neutral site make sense? Both teams fans were going to travel anyway, so why not Kansas City or similar.
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Any reasoning for this been offered? Since that means both teams still have the date open,
wouldn't another neutral site make sense? Both teams fans were going to travel anyway, so why not Kansas City or similar.
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How about Nashville? It’d pretty equal driving distance for both fan bases, and less susceptible to wintertime blizzards. They could even tie-in a “music” theme: ‘70s Funk meets Delta Blues in the Capital of Country Music.
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Huge. We've seen with the 14-15 team and the year the Bonnies ended up in the First Four this conference might have the smallest margin of error in college hoops
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Yep. No surprise that the schools that have less trouble securing At-Large bids want to keep their schedules “in the family”, while the schools that are constantly struggling for recognition want to play as many OOC games as possible. I agree that this was a good decision by the A-10.
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Originally Posted by T-Bone 84
Yep. No surprise that the schools that have less trouble securing At-Large bids want to keep their schedules “in the family”, while the schools that are constantly struggling for recognition want to play as many OOC games as possible. I agree that this was a good decision by the A-10.
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Isn't it just the opposite? The Dayton's of the A10 want to keep the A10 schedule at 18 games, while the Fordham's want 20. Fordham struggles to get a good ooc schedule, Dayton does not. Dayton does not need more A10 league games against the middle and bottom of the league.
I would like to go back to 16 league games.
The A10 has the same dynamics as the MW. SDSU wanted to stay at 18, the stinky schools wanted 20.
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So what is the story? This game with Ole Miss is just gone now? Poof, just like it never existed? Find another venue. Or play in Oxford, Mississippi or Dayton or set this up as a h/h series instead.
Was this cancelled because of covid?
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Isn't it just the opposite? The Dayton's of the A10 want to keep the A10 schedule at 18 games, while the Fordham's want 20. Fordham struggles to get a good ooc schedule, Dayton does not. Dayton does not need more A10 league games against the middle and bottom of the league.
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It could be better, our schedule should be #1 or #2 in the A10 every year, most of the time it is not. I was comparing us to Fordham, of course we win that comparison.
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Look, I am very happy that we are finally playing 15 away/neutral games. We have 7 good ooc games this year, that is not bad, but it is still not the best. IMO we are still in 3rd place at best in the A10 since Davidson and Richmond are both playing 8 good ooc games. Why aren't we playing 8 good ooc games and keeping up with the competition in the A10? I want to be at the top in everything.
I still think the Ole Miss game will come together somehow.
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Any reasoning for this been offered? Since that means both teams still have the date open,
wouldn't another neutral site make sense? Both teams fans were going to travel anyway, so why not Kansas City or similar.
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After not getting a sniff of a bid to the NCAA's last season due to the 317th rated schedule in the nation, SMU upgraded significantly. With Dayton as a centerpiece.
SMU coach Jankovich, "I think it's a tremendous schedule and I am very happy with it. It took an incredible amount of legwork to get it, and I appreciate all the hard work our staff did. You don't snap your fingers and get this kind of schedule. "
This season and next, the Mustangs added Dayton and Arizona State. They also will play Georgia, UNLV, and Vanderbilt.
"It's just getting in touch with enough people and being relentless about following up on all the potential leads.....but really what we need is people to agree to play ! "
"And that is so much harder than what what people understand"
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Me too. Add Murray State, Belmont, and Northern Iowa. Then go to a 16-game true round robin. To help fill the non-conference schedules you could do December games between the top contenders like Dayton v. Richmond, etc. This would boost overall SOS of teams competing for at-large bids and provide high profile "A10 preview" games. You could also pair with another similarly situated conferences like the American for a challenge.
Eliminating H/Hs for the conference schedule also limits the exposure of at-large contenders to NET anchors.
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Me too. Add Murray State, Belmont, and Northern Iowa. Then go to a 16-game true round robin. To help fill the non-conference schedules you could do December games between the top contenders like Dayton v. Richmond, etc. This would boost overall SOS of teams competing for at-large bids and provide high profile "A10 preview" games. You could also pair with another similarly situated conferences like the American for a challenge.
Eliminating H/Hs for the conference schedule also limits the exposure of at-large contenders to NET anchors.
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Sounds perfect, that would solve a lot of problems. I like the aggressive thinking. Would enough A10 members support this in order to get it done? Do you just need a simple majority?
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Personally, I don't think this is something to fear. Strong indications that he was part of the reason for the missing team chemistry last season. Now Rhody has a flock of newbies to meld together. There are questions to be answered for sure.
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Personally, I don't think this is something to fear. Strong indications that he was part of the reason for the missing team chemistry last season. Now Rhody has a flock of newbies to meld together. There are questions to be answered for sure.
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Look, I am very happy that we are finally playing 15 away/neutral games. We have 7 good ooc games this year, that is not bad, but it is still not the best. IMO we are still in 3rd place at best in the A10 since Davidson and Richmond are both playing 8 good ooc games. Why aren't we playing 8 good ooc games and keeping up with the competition in the A10? I want to be at the top in everything.
I still think the Ole Miss game will come together somehow.
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4th place now IMO, RI just announced a h/h with BC, that is 8 good ooc games for RI now.
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Ok, I will back off a little and call this maybe a good game. If we announced a h/h with BC, you would like it though, right?
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Ok, I will back off a little and call this maybe a good game. If we announced a h/h with BC, you would like it though, right?
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Me personally, I'd be so p'issed if used a home and home on them... BC absolutely stinks... I'd only take a home game for them (no H and H)
Plus it helps when it's a "regional" game for URI so that's why they could probably get it.
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Me personally, I'd be so p'issed if used a home and home on them... BC absolutely stinks... I'd only take a home game for them (no H and H)
Plus it helps when it's a "regional" game for URI so that's why they could probably get it.
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They also draw more like an A10 team than an ACC team...I think just a little over 5,000 a game.
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They also draw more like an A10 team than an ACC team...I think just a little over 5,000 a game.
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Being a power conference juices a team's computer numbers. Georgia was a mediocre team last year but ended up with a better NET than Belmont, Duquesne or New Mexico State
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Sorry guys/gals, I would take a h/h series with BC, that would be better than 2 q3 or q4 stinky buy games. We might get a q2 road game and maybe a q2 home game if we were lucky.
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Of course we'd take a H/H w/ BC. Hard for a P5 team to be a number killer because they play so many good teams in conference. Win-win scenario. If they are bad you crush them and it doesn't hurt you if they are good you get a number boost almost regardless of outcome.
Perfect example last year is Georgia (mentioned above) and VT. Did crushing VT particularly help us? No, but it sure as hell didn't hurt us and I wouldn't have batted an eye if one of those was a H/H instead of a random tourney draw.
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Being a power conference juices a team's computer numbers...
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Yep. To modify an old saying to fit the current situation: “It’s not how you play; it’s who you play.”
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Originally Posted by hawkoooo
Of course we'd take a H/H w/ BC. Hard for a P5 team to be a number killer because they play so many good teams in conference. Win-win scenario. If they are bad you crush them and it doesn't hurt you if they are good you get a number boost almost regardless of outcome.
Perfect example last year is Georgia (mentioned above) and VT. Did crushing VT particularly help us? No, but it sure as hell didn't hurt us and I wouldn't have batted an eye if one of those was a H/H instead of a random tourney draw.
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Helped us enormously from a confidence standpoint. Every game in that tourney propeled them.
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great move, two good games on the home schedule. Season after next setting up nicely with road games at SMU and Ole Miss, a home game in the MWC/A10 and likely an exempt tourney
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Sorry guys/gals, I would take a h/h series with BC, that would be better than 2 q3 or q4 stinky buy games. We might get a q2 road game and maybe a q2 home game if we were lucky.
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If true, the H/H with Ole Miss beats BC, believe that makes 8 "good" OOC games. What is your next complaint?
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vs. Ole Miss
vs. SMU
vs. Miss. St (Atlanta)
at Nevada
Myrtle Beach (x3)
Neil Sullivan is doing a really good job so far
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Neil Sullivan is doing a really good job so far
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Always wondered about the process of scheduling. I know a few months back DBO James Haring sent out a tweet looking for big conference home-and-homes. Of course, the head coach has some say, and I imagine the AD's office hammers out the details.
Anybody know definitively how the process typically works?
Schedule looks good thus far. Hope the do as good a job last year filling in with big fish from smaller conferences. That's a less splashy way to improve SOS.
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Uh-oh. ud2 won't like this. We traded a neutral game for a home game, so we're back down to 14 road/neutral games.
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Uh-oh. ud2 won't like this. We traded a neutral game for a home game, so we're back down to 14 road/neutral games.
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Oh well, we came close, it was nice while it lasted, lol.
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If true, the H/H with Ole Miss beats BC, believe that makes 8 "good" OOC games. What is your next complaint?
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Nope, just 7 good ooc games...still only just the 4th best ooc schedule in the A10 at best, in terms of the number of good games.
https://t.co/FkSwYB24fc?amp=1
Ole Miss, Miss State, 3 in Myrtle Beach, SMU, and Nevada.
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Hope the do as good a job last year filling in with big fish from smaller conferences. That's a less splashy way to improve SOS.
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Sos does not really matter anymore it seems, the committee seems to look more at your q1 and q2 record, although if you schedule a higher number of good games, I bet your sos will improve concomitantly.
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Nope, just 7 good ooc games...still only just the 4th best ooc schedule in the A10 at best, in terms of the number of good games.
https://t.co/FkSwYB24fc?amp=1
Ole Miss, Miss State, 3 in Myrtle Beach, SMU, and Nevada.
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You are correct.
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Originally Posted by ud2
Nope, just 7 good ooc games...still only just the 4th best ooc schedule in the A10 at best, in terms of the number of good games.
https://t.co/FkSwYB24fc?amp=1
Ole Miss, Miss State, 3 in Myrtle Beach, SMU, and Nevada.
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I'm not terribly bullish on Myrtle Beach. That said, this schedule and the A10 being tougher at the top should be good enough to get the job done.
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Nope, just 7 good ooc games...still only just the 4th best ooc schedule in the A10 at best, in terms of the number of good games.
https://t.co/FkSwYB24fc?amp=1
Ole Miss, Miss State, 3 in Myrtle Beach, SMU, and Nevada.
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so, how do we solve this situation?
how about : just WIN!!
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Having the best schedule is debatable. You may have better nanes but that does not make a better schedule. All I know is that we have been in 5 of the last 7 NCAA tournaments (including this year.) That is what matters.
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spot on right there....
our schedule doesn't have to be
the greatest and it won't be the greatest
because some teams do not want to come here..
it is what it is,
for me let's take our schedule
and win, a game at a time
that is 10x more important IMO
we do that, and everything else
will take care of itself...
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Having the best schedule is debatable. You may have better nanes but that does not make a better schedule. All I know is that we have been in 5 of the last 7 NCAA tournaments (including this year.) That is what matters.
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Yeah, fair enough...but I am just tired of never being the top dog in scheduling, at least in terms of the number of purported challenging games, and really trying to schedule up...for years we let Temple and Xavier outschedule us, why did we allow that to happen? Where's the pride? Don't we want to be looked at as a top dog, and do what the top dogs are doing? Now the same thing is happening except that others in the A10 are outscheduling us. I do not know why we don't want to be the leader of the pack at least for some years. I am just disappointed that we don't strive for more. I just sometimes get the feeling that this sort of approach exists in the program: if we are willing to let little things like this be not at the top of the class, then is the administration really, truly committed to maximizing our potential? Seems like a dichotomy.
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Yeah, fair enough...but I am just tired of never being the top dog in scheduling, at least in terms of the number of purported challenging games, and really trying to schedule up...for years we let Temple and Xavier outschedule us, why did we allow that to happen? Where's the pride? Don't we want to be looked at as a top dog, and do what the top dogs are doing? Now the same thing is happening except that others in the A10 are outscheduling us. I do not know why we don't want to be the leader of the pack at least for some years. I am just disappointed that we don't strive for more. I just sometimes get the feeling that this sort of approach exists in the program: if we are willing to let little things like this be not at the top of the class, then is the administration really, truly committed to maximizing our potential? Seems like a dichotomy.
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The answer to your question is yes. You are making a mountian out of a molehill. But then again if it wasn't this it would be somethiing else, with the success we have had it must be tough on you.
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You keep worrying what a June 03 2020 bracket looks like and add in what a single meteorologist is forecasting for the temperature to be on Selection Sunday in 2021.
Id as soon finish my cold glass of Hudy on a summer day.
Besides not sure we were picked to be a potential #1 seed last year this time last year either ... AND NO ONE here would have done so either.
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Robert Morris University rumored to be leaving the NEC and heading to the Horizon League.
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I wonder if Wright State dropping to 11 sports will affect their DI status and, hence, the Horizon?
Does anyone know if the NCAA has released a position on schools which drop below the required number of sports due to COVID-related budget cuts?
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CMU just got a waiver. I expect Wright State will as well.
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Slightly different circumstance as CMU still sponsors 16 sports, but doesn't have the requisite number of male sports. They're also an FBS school, so I wonder if WSU will get the same consideration. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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They've been burned as badly as anyone in the country for having guys transfer out and up a level
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The Athletic has an article today about Jalen testing the NBA waters.
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Talks about how the NCAA tournament would have given him a chance to raise his stock.
“I felt like I would’ve shown I could have played with anybody,” Crutcher said.
“I think if he was able to get on that stage and put us in a position where we could advance, he would have been a big reason why it would have happened,” Grant added.
Crutcher’s draft stock was already cloudy going into the tournament. Two scouts told The Athletic his ceiling is landing a two-way contract, and two others said Crutcher’s long-range shooting and pick-and-roll play could make him a second-round pick. There are questions about his defense, and some scouts said he should return to Dayton because he’s only 20 and would be a 21-year-old four-year player next year, which isn’t very common. Scouts aren’t allowed to publicly comment on prospects.
“He doesn’t really have a range,” one scout said.
“His stock could have definitely benefited from the (NCAA Tournament),” another added. “But he’s amazing in the pick-and-roll.”
Crutcher met with the Orlando Magic last week and has upcoming meetings with the Milwaukee Bucks and Detroit Pistons. Crutcher said he’s been selling teams on his leadership and 3-point shooting."
He is working out with a trainer and participating in pick up games with good talent in Memphis organized by a former NBA player who now plays in the Chinese League.
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Shortly after it was all called off, I saw an interview with Obi’s mom and she said the guys really wanted to showcase Jalen during the NCAAs. Obi had his coming out party in Maui. I think Jalen was going to have his in March on a national stage.
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Jalen is like Cassius Winston. Undersized, but extremely high quality college PG. He can be an All-American next year. That will go a long way toward him getting drafted. Also there's probably some people (not very bright) who think "oh he just lobbed it up to Obi, anybody can do that." He will benefit from having a dominant year without a lottery pick in the paint.
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Jalen and Obi complimented each other perfectly. So, I do think that they both made each other look better. It's not unfair to say that, IMO. Each alone, is really, really good. Together, they were possibly the best tandem in college basketball last season. Kansas had a pretty good claim to that title too.
I said all year long that their pick and roll action was so indefensible that it was almost unfair.
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Belmont and Murray State, both from the OVC, should have been the HL targets, with the goal of the HL trying to become a multi-bid league, RMU does not improve the HL's profile, the HL would have been better off staying put rather than adding another mouth to feed a portion of the NCAAT auto bid $. Must be some issues going on that I am not aware of such as: Murray's football team being in a different league being a problem, or maybe Murray and/or Belmont do not want to move due to increased travel costs?, or the HL members were afraid of adding those 2 due to increased competition.
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Originally Posted by ud2
Belmont and Murray State, both from the OVC, should have been the HL targets, with the goal of the HL trying to become a multi-bid league, RMU does not improve the HL's profile, the HL would have been better off staying put rather than adding another mouth to feed a portion of the NCAAT auto bid $. Must be some issues going on that I am not aware of such as: Murray's football team being in a different league being a problem, or maybe Murray and/or Belmont do not want to move due to increased travel costs?, or the HL members were afraid of adding those 2 due to increased competition.
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The Horizon League has eroded enough that the OVC is a better league with better travel for Belmont and Murray
Murray has been connected to the Missouri Valley
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Conference power rankings, RPI-HL 23, OVC 29, BPI- HL 22, OVC 23, NET HL 22, OVC 28.
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer
The Horizon League has eroded enough that the OVC is a better league with better travel for Belmont and Murray
Murray has been connected to the Missouri Valley
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Neither league is very good, but nobody in the OVC is consistently any good other than Belmont and Murray State. I doubt that the OVC has ever been ranked better as a league than the HL.
Belmont and Murray State would be better off in the HL where there are 7 or so teams that have had at least a little success: NKU, Wright State, Green Bay, Detroit, Oakland, Milwaukee, and Cleveland State.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_horiz_Men.html
The OVC has EKU, Austin Peay, and Morehead State I guess.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_ovc_Men.html
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OVC has gotten two teams in the tourney in the last five years. The Horizon has been one bid since Butler left and most years they're in the 13-15 seed line range
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer
OVC has gotten two teams in the tourney in the last five years. The Horizon has been one bid since Butler left and most years they're in the 13-15 seed line range
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True...but the multi-bid year was Belmont and MSU, they would not be losing anything moving to the HL if they moved together...they would have a better chance of getting more q2 games in the HL.
There was only 1 multi-bid year, 2019...Belmont at large, MSU auto.
3 of the the last 5 years, the OVC auto bid was a 15 or 16 seed, the other 2 were 12's.
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NJIT leaves the Atlantic Sun conference and joins the America East conference.
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