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1. Grant is simultaneously the worst and best coach in UD history, and half of this sub hates you

2. Mali is finally back, Elvis is close. Good news with a limited bench

3. We have a 96% chance of a double bye in the A10 tournament, and the auto-bid is the only way we are making the dance outside of a miracle

4. This is the worst season of A10 basketball, and teams needed to be weeded out and added

5. Stop harassing players on their social media. Also, would be nice if they covered.

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Originally Posted by CoffeeCan View Post
1. Grant is simultaneously the worst and best coach in UD history, and half of this sub hates you

2. Mali is finally back, Elvis is close. Good news with a limited bench

3. We have a 96% chance of a double bye in the A10 tournament, and the auto-bid is the only way we are making the dance outside of a miracle

4. This is the worst season of A10 basketball, and teams needed to be weeded out and added

5. Stop harassing players on their social media. Also, would be nice if they covered.

Did I miss anything? Let's get it done tomorrow vs. GW.
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Which by the way now charges 30 dollars for a super cheesesteak. At those prices, I'll pay a little more for good steak dinner.
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Steak dinnerÖtaking the wife to The Pine Club next week. I donít mind spending more than $30 there!
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Which by the way now charges 30 dollars for a super cheesesteak. At those prices, I'll pay a little more for good steak dinner.
$30!?!
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Steak dinner…taking the wife to The Pine Club next week. I don’t mind spending more than $30 there!
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I heard the Pine Club got new ownership. If true, let's hope they don't ruin it like what happened at Milanos.
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I heard the Pine Club got new ownership. If true, let's hope they don't ruin it like what happened at Milanos.
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I heard the Pine Club got new ownership. If true, let's hope they don't ruin it like what happened at Milanos.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it isn't as good as it used to be
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I dont make it back to campus often, what is up with Milanos and Pine Club? New owners ruining them?
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I dont make it back to campus often, what is up with Milanos and Pine Club? New owners ruining them?
I don't think the new Milanos is bad but I remember the 90s pre-renovation, expansion being much better
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I dont make it back to campus often, what is up with Milanos and Pine Club? New owners ruining them?
I can't give you any info on Pine Club as I haven't ate there in over 10 years. And they were just as good as always then.

But all I can say about Milanos is I used to live for their Italian Beef sandwiches. I now live somewhat close to Chicago and have yet to find one as good as Milanos used to have.

The last time I went in, I was watering at the mouth for one. Menu had different sizes. I asked for the original one, stuffed and loaded with cheese. Waitress says "I have no idea, maybe you want the large? I'm thinking, well that makes sense. It had about 1/3 of the meat of what I used to get, with a little cheese sprinkled in and dry as heck. I was disgusted.

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I can't give you any info on Pine Club as I haven't ate there in over 10 years. And they were just as good as always then.

But all I can say about Milanos is I used to live for their Italian Beef sandwiches. I now live somewhat close to Chicago and have yet to find one as good as Milanos used to have.

The last time I went in, I was watering at the mouth for one. Menu had different sizes. I asked for the original one, stuffed and loaded with cheese. Waitress says "I have no idea, maybe you want the large? I'm thinking, well that makes sense. It had about 1/3 of the meat of what I used to get, with a little cheese sprinkled in and dry as heck. I was disgusted.
Weíre simple. We just get an Italian Beef at Portilloís while in Chicago. Easy and dependable.
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I don't think the new Milanos is bad but I remember the 90s pre-renovation, expansion being much better
UD grad Steve Bulpett who now covers the Celtics and the NBA at large for Heavy.com refers to the old Milano's as "before they changed the grease." Jim Paxson, Sr. used to bring Jimmy and Steve subs from Milano's whenever the Celts played Cleveland when Jimmy was the GM of the Cavs.
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Weíre simple. We just get an Italian Beef at Portilloís while in Chicago. Easy and dependable.
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I've had Portillos. Not nearly as good as Milanos used to be.
Like I said, weíre easy. Our sandwich bar is low.
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We’re simple. We just get an Italian Beef at Portillo’s while in Chicago. Easy and dependable.
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Mike Ditka sells Italian Beef with a sort of gravy/au jus-type sauce mixed in with it in the frozen section of some grocery stores, it is real good IMO.

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Ditkaís is more than a $30 sandwich! Mike Ditka is actually a good dude. My dad and brother went your to dinner with him 10+ years ago (my bro is in broadcasting). Ditka would take pictures with anyone who asked. When the bill came, Ditka pulled out a wad of cash and included a fat tip with the meal. Heís not what people think.
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Digging deep in my memory of the old Milanos but the bread doesnít seem as good as before
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Ditkaís is more than a $30 sandwich! Mike Ditka is actually a good dude. My dad and brother went your to dinner with him 10+ years ago (my bro is in broadcasting). Ditka would take pictures with anyone who asked. When the bill came, Ditka pulled out a wad of cash and included a fat tip with the meal. Heís not what people think.
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I always thought Ditka was a good man. The only thing I ever thought negative about him as when he traded his whole 1999 draft to Washington for the right to draft Ricky Williams. Terrible trade to begin with then Williams quits for a couple years so that he can smoke pot.
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Just so no one gets confused, the PINE CLUB changed hands wbout 2 years ago. The new owner said he didn't want to make any changes and after a half dozen visits I haven't seen any.

As to Milanos one of the things that made them special was their bread. They made it fresh every day. After they changed hands back inthe 90's it was never the same. As they modernized the old place everything slowly lost its charm.
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Just so no one gets confused, the PINE CLUB changed hands wbout 2 years ago. The new owner said he didn't want to make any changes and after a half dozen visits I haven't seen any.

As to Milanos one of the things that made them special was their bread. They made it fresh every day. After they changed hands back inthe 90's it was never the same. As they modernized the old place everything slowly lost its charm.
I really loved their subs back in the old days. I did not realize that they made their own bread back then. Their old ovens were gnarly and covered in molten cheese from 1960. They were served by a woman in a lunch lady uniform and hair net that looked like Chris Farley. I think that combo must have been what I liked.
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I really loved their subs back in the old days. I did not realize that they made their own bread back then. Their old ovens were gnarly and covered in molten cheese from 1960. They were served by a woman in a lunch lady uniform and hair net that looked like Chris Farley. I think that combo must have been what I liked.
I remember an older, thin, white haired lady who always had cigarette in her mouth while she was pulling the sandwiches out of the oven. I don't know why, but those sandwiches with ashes peppered through tasted a lot better than what you get today.
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My brother lives in Aurora and Portillo's is awesome.
People from up here rave about Potrillo's. I'm curious, have any of you that find Portillo's Italian Beef so great, ever had Milano's Italian Beef prior to the mid-90s? I find it so humorous that Chicago and surrounding area that think they are the center of the USA when it comes to Italian have yet to produce an Italian Beef that compared.

I guess what I'm asking anyone, is there anyone who ever had Milano's IB when it was good, still think Portillo's is "awesome"?
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What was at the spot BW3s is at now on Brown street before it?
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Last I remember, I think it was a Skyline. But back in the 70s, when I loved Milanos, I remember it being a Hardees which had the greatest fast food burger back then called the Deluxe Husky.
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Last I remember, I think it was a Skyline. But back in the 70s, when I loved Milanos, I remember it being a Hardees which had the greatest fast food burger back then called the Deluxe Husky.
Youíre right that it was Skyline. They had all you could eat on like Tuesday or Wednesday and UDs football team would be in there
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Youíre right that it was Skyline. They had all you could eat on like Tuesday or Wednesday and UDs football team would be in there
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It was a Chinese restaurant at one point in the early 80s
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People from up here rave about Potrillo's. I'm curious, have any of you that find Portillo's Italian Beef so great, ever had Milano's Italian Beef prior to the mid-90s? I find it so humorous that Chicago and surrounding area that think they are the center of the USA when it comes to Italian have yet to produce an Italian Beef that compared.

I guess what I'm asking anyone, is there anyone who ever had Milano's IB when it was good, still think Portillo's is "awesome"?
I think my standards have lowered. Who has a great sandwich now? Itís tough. Pottillos is fun and easy. Oh, they also have great strawberry shortcake. When in town with our boys for hockey, it served us well.
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You’re right that it was Skyline. They had all you could eat on like Tuesday or Wednesday and UDs football team would be in there
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Yeah, I was there in there with two other guys for that once. Do you remember how much they were charging for that?

These other two guys were big eaters, it was an impressive display of eating that day by them. We had a ton of empty 3 way and coney plates stacked up on our table I remember, lol. I could barely walk out of there after that, I was so stuffed.
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I think my standards have lowered. Who has a great sandwich now? Itís tough. Pottillos is fun and easy. Oh, they also have great strawberry shortcake. When in town with our boys for hockey, it served us well.
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True, things are not the same(for the worse). But I'm still curious, did you have Milano's IB back when they knew how to make them?
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Yup. I wish I knew then what I know now. A great friend and I just talked about how itís not the same on Tuesday night on the way to the game (well, we may have been on our way to Cassanoís before going to the game). I really do think that great bread makes a huge difference.
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Yeah, I was there in there with two other guys for that once. Do you remember how much they were charging for that?

These other two guys were big eaters, it was an impressive display of eating that day by them. We had a ton of empty 3 way and coney plates stacked up on our table I remember, lol. I could barely walk out of there after that, I was so stuffed.
I completely forgot about it till Smitty mentioned it

It was less than $10 I believe because I remember going in there in junior high

My memory could be off because that was so long ago but I think some of the football players were eating 20 plus coneys
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I knew that the new Milano's wouldn't be quite the same when I picked up to-go subs and they were both in styrofoam clamshells (no, I didn't really need the potato chips) rather than in the sleeved bag which allowed my whole AC to marinate on the way home.
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I remember an older, thin, white haired lady who always had cigarette in her mouth while she was pulling the sandwiches out of the oven. I don't know why, but those sandwiches with ashes peppered through tasted a lot better than what you get today.
I remember her too.
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When Milanos opened in 1969 it was in a hole in the wall shop north of its present location on Brown St., a much smaller space than at present and no alcohol. We thought the pizza was the best we had had in Dayton. I don't remember them serving sandwiches. I am showing my Jersey prejudice when I say that we were not at all impressed with the local pizza, and when we got home the first thing we did was high tail it to the local pizza shop for "a slice." I can't recall what establishment occupied the space where Milanos is now. I also cannot recall what was located at the space where BWW is now. What I really miss is Dottie's at the corner of Stewart and Brown. I bet only the old timers remember Dottie's.
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I remember an older, thin, white haired lady who always had cigarette in her mouth while she was pulling the sandwiches out of the oven. I don't know why, but those sandwiches with ashes peppered through tasted a lot better than what you get today.
The cigarette ashes were Milanoís version of ďsecret sauceĒ back in the day.

And donít forget the floor that sagged in certain places when you went from the front door to the counter to pickup your food.
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When Milanos opened in 1969 it was in a hole in the wall shop north of its present location on Brown St., a much smaller space than at present and no alcohol. We thought the pizza was the best we had had in Dayton. I don't remember them serving sandwiches. I am showing my Jersey prejudice when I say that we were not at all impressed with the local pizza, and when we got home the first thing we did was high tail it to the local pizza shop for "a slice." I can't recall what establishment occupied the space where Milanos is now. I also cannot recall what was located at the space where BWW is now. What I really miss is Dottie's at the corner of Stewart and Brown. I bet only the old timers remember Dottie's.
A lot of the NCR employees would go to Milanoís for a sandwich and take it to Timís for a beer while they ate lunch
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When Milanos opened in 1969 it was in a hole in the wall shop north of its present location on Brown St., a much smaller space than at present and no alcohol. We thought the pizza was the best we had had in Dayton. I don't remember them serving sandwiches. I am showing my Jersey prejudice when I say that we were not at all impressed with the local pizza, and when we got home the first thing we did was high tail it to the local pizza shop for "a slice." I can't recall what establishment occupied the space where Milanos is now. I also cannot recall what was located at the space where BWW is now. What I really miss is Dottie's at the corner of Stewart and Brown. I bet only the old timers remember Dottie's.
I started going to Milanos when I lived on Brown St ('71-73). They had subs back then (at least the Atlantic City & meatball subs). Closest to east coast (real!) pizza until FLYING PIZZA came to town. After a sub, over to Timothy's for brew, foosball, & pinball (I believe it was named JUNGLE - back when the bonus points were 100).

I believe KING'S MARKET (a small, old-time grocery store) was where Milanos is now.

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That always gets my vote in the Best of Dayton polls. Been going to the downtown location since I was a Freshman in high school, back in 1976-77. John ran the place back then. Frank and his brother run the joint now. Still one of the best dinner values in the area (but not like when I used to get 2 squares and a Coke for $2.25).
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Wasn't sure where to put this so I'll put it here.

I was watching a movie called Walk Softly, Stranger from 1950 on TCM the other day. The movie is set in Ashton, OH, which I think is a fictitious town. Some of the scenes are in a bedroom and there are a few college pennants hanging on the wall. One of them is a Dayton pennant with the word "Dayton" and the letters "DU". I'm assuming the prop department made this pennant themselves and it was not a real pennant that was purchased.

Maybe some of our recruits are classic movie buffs and this is why they write "blessed to get an offer from Dayton University"...
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In this tweet is a picture of Jack Salee, Jim Paxson Sr. and Tom Blackburn from a 1951 Springfield newspaper. From the caption, "Dayton University" and "Louisville U Cardinals".

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I used to enjoy the pizza and dog combo meal....Skyliners (chili without beans tough to find) and deep dish slices from Rocky Rococo. The Italian sausage helped soak up my Goebel's from the previous night. I think I used to bankroll change off a 5 spot on this meal.
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At my son's bachelpor party weekend last summer in Cinci, I learned of a new fad at the Benglas and FC Cinci games...you order a slice of LaRosas pizza and a chili dog...put the chili dog in the middle of the slice and fold the crust around it...it's called a SkyRosa. Wash it down with a beer and it's like a slice of heaven.
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I used to enjoy the pizza and dog combo meal....Skyliners (chili without beans tough to find) and deep dish slices from Rocky Rococo. The Italian sausage helped soak up my Goebel's from the previous night. I think I used to bankroll change off a 5 spot on this meal.
I had wondered whatever happened to that chain. They are still in business mostly up in Wisconsin. I was up in Milwaukee several years ago right by the international airport, I drove past one of their locations, turned around, went in, and had dinner. It tasted like I had remembered from when they were in Dayton years ago.
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At my son's bachelpor party weekend last summer in Cinci, I learned of a new fad at the Benglas and FC Cinci games...you order a slice of LaRosas pizza and a chili dog...put the chili dog in the middle of the slice and fold the crust around it...it's called a SkyRosa. Wash it down with a beer and it's like a slice of heaven.
I'll take your word for it. Never cared for LaRosas. But I will say this about Skyline. They have the greatest hot sauce I've ever had. Their Coneys with cheese are good, but putting one pack of hot sauce on each is absolute heaven.
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I'll take your word for it. Never cared for LaRosas. But I will say this about Skyline. They have the greatest hot sauce I've ever had. Their Coneys with cheese are good, but putting one pack of hot sauce on each is absolute heaven.
Yeah, I had a coney the other night, and I stopped, shook my head, and I thought to myself: you know what? I gotta give it to them. These da*n things do in fact taste da*n good. Lol
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