2016-17 Games of note:

[CE80]

Anybody see this the other day.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-...e-no-look-back

[rollo]

Originally Posted by CE80 Anybody see this the other day. http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-...e-no-look-back

I saw this...and noticed that the refs correctly credited the opponent with a 2-pt shot.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by CE80 Anybody se this the other day. http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-...e-no-look-back

Originally Posted by rollo I saw this...and noticed that the refs correctly credited the opponent with a 2-pt shot.

OK, lets say me with my awesome 42", or is that 4.2" vertical, was playing for NDSU, and I decided to jump up and snatch the ball out of the air right before it went through the basket, would it be goal tending since my own guy shot it?

[rollo]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan OK, lets say me with my awesome 42", or is that 4.2" vertical, was playing for NDSU, and I decided to jump up and snatch the ball out of the air right before it went through the basket, would it be goal tending since my own guy shot it?

I should have said it was a 2-pt 'pass'...regardless, the answer is:

Nope.

It's a pass, not a shot. Which is why it only counts for 2 pts. To be credited with a 3, it must legally be a 'shot'.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by rollo I should have said it was a 2-pt 'pass'...regardless, the answer is: Nope. It's a pass, not a shot. Which is why it only counts for 2 pts. To be credited with a 3, it must legally be a 'shot'.

My same question, but ball is on the rim still in the cylinder, can I knock it off?

What is the wager the opposing fans, and coach, goes bonkers over what I think your answer will be?

[rollo]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan My same question, but ball is on the rim still in the cylinder, can I knock it off? What is the wager the opposing fans, and coach, goes bonkers over what I think your answer will be?

I already answered the question.

[CoffeeCan]

Some games that can help us:

Nebraska (-4) needs to beat Penn State
VCU (-16.5) needs to beat St Joes
New Mexico (-2.5) needs to beat Boise State

For the bubble:
Ohio State or Michigan State? Thinking OSU send MSU off the bubble, but then again would that put OSU back on the bubble? They are not too far off the Dance Card...

[CE80]

I don't know how I feel about VCU now. It probably is good for them to win because I think we still need to beat them on Mar 1 but I would be okay if they lose another game. I want an outright conference regular season championship.

[Bill202]

Originally Posted by CE80 I don't know how I feel about VCU now. It probably is good for them to win because I think we still need to beat them on Mar 1 but I would be okay if they lose another game. I want an outright conference regular season championship.

If we win out, we'll get #1 seed. If we lose to VCU, they'd have to lose 2 additional games because they'd win the tie-breaker against us (not accounting for additional teams tied for 1st). Just WIN baby!

[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by Bill202 If we win out, we'll get #1 seed. If we lose to VCU, they'd have to lose 2 additional games because they'd win the tie-breaker against us (not accounting for additional teams tied for 1st). Just WIN baby!

I get that, but as long as we are in the top 4 we get a bye in the A10 tourney so it really does not matter that much. Obviously, winning out is preferred for many reasons, but not really a huge benefit for A10 tourney seeding.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by Bill202 If we win out, we'll get #1 seed. If we lose to VCU, they'd have to lose 2 additional games because they'd win the tie-breaker against us (not accounting for additional teams tied for 1st). Just WIN baby!

I know. I know but I wouldn't mind a little cushion.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by KC Flyer It was the craziest comeback I have seen in a long time. KU scored i think 21 in the final 2 minutes.

The whole game seemed to be a game of big swings. Kansas seems to take time off every time they get a lead.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by CE80 I don't know how I feel about VCU now. It probably is good for them to win because I think we still need to beat them on Mar 1 but I would be okay if they lose another game. I want an outright conference regular season championship.

Agree, I would like an outright league title. Will VCU having one more loss really impact UD's seed in the NCAAT?

[The Fly]

If they lose one, let it be to Rhody (and us, of course). That might help us sneak three teams into the tourney.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by C-time Still wish Justin Bibbs would have came to UD. I don't really remember if UD had a chance or was recruiting him.

I think any chance we had of getting him went out the window when he ditched my other alma mater for the prep school in Florida.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by The Fly If they lose one, let it be to Rhody (and us, of course). That might help us sneak three teams into the tourney.

I think at this point the only way 3 teams are getting in is if UD or VCU doesn't win the tourney and even at that, I am not sure I would bet on it. I am greedy, I want both the regular season and tourney championship.

[The Fly]

I want the same thing. But while you're probably right, if Rhode Island won out and then made it to the A-10 championship (losing to us!), I think they'd have a pretty strong case -- a couple of top 50 wins, including over Cincy, RPI in the 30s and momentum. Would be a tough call for the committee.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by The Fly I want the same thing. But while you're probably right, if Rhode Island won out and then made it to the A-10 championship (losing to us!), I think they'd have a pretty strong case -- a couple of top 50 wins, including over Cincy, RPI in the 30s and momentum. Would be a tough call for the committee.

The thing is, under that scenario and assuming we beat VCU, I think VCU is out. They would have most likely lost to UD or URI twice (both in regular season and in tourney) and the other one once.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[C-time]

VCU 48 St. Joes 44 Halftime.

Lewis has 18 with 6 3's at the half. Joes has played straight 2-3 the whole half since they have no players left. I'm hoping Martelli has a Box and 1 or Triangle and 2 ready to pull out for the 2nd half. Also VCU has played absolutely no defense at all.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

My fear is Rhode Island ending up the 4 seed, and us facing them in the semi finals. Tough to beat the same good team 3 times in one season, especially one with as much potential and as high of expectations as Rhody has. So, hoping we run the table between now and then hoping somehow Richmond stumbles a bit and Rhody ends up the 3 seed.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[udx2]

VCU built a 9 point lead with 6:45 to go. Hawks kept it close for a while. Lewis now has 9 3s.

[C-time]

Mason 41 Richmond 28 halftime.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[m21eagle45]

St. Joe is playing without Kimble now for the rest of the year. He scored 25 again us. Another huge loss for St. Joe.

[BRob2Perryman3]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 St. Joe is playing without Kimble now for the rest of the year. He scored 25 again us. Another huge loss for St. Joe.

Tough break. I enjoy the A-10 a little more when St. Joe's is good.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

They hung with VCU for a long time, lost by only 10 at VCU with a decimated team. Gotta love their fight.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan They hung with VCU for a long time, lost by only 10 at VCU with a decimated team. Gotta love their fight.

That's the hallmark of a Martelli-coached team. Greater than the sum of its parts.
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[T-Bone 84]

And for those who care, OSU has just gone down by 8 at Mich State.
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[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 And for those who care, OSU has just gone down by 8 at Mich State. Posted via Mobile Device

Which team winning helps us most?

[lhsgolf19]

It's nuts... 3 of VCU's last 5 games are at Richmond, at URI and at UD... Wow!

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by CoffeeCan Which team winning helps us most?

Probably OSU. Both are bubble teams but MSU currently a 10 seed. Loss should knock them out for now.

[T-Bone 84]

MSU just beat OSU, which means MSU just played themselves up from the bubble, and OSU is "gaining steam".
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[FlyerGuyer]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 OSU is "gaining steam". Posted via Mobile Device

Jerry Palm had them in his bracket like two days ago. It's a good loss so they pass the eye test, and if they finish off Nebraska and Penn State, they will definitely be gathering some big-time steam.

[ud69]

Lobos over Boise. Thought for a bit they were going to pull another Nevada - but they held on.

[MikeF]

Originally Posted by FlyerGuyer Jerry Palm had them in his bracket like two days ago. It's a good loss so they pass the eye test...

That was one thing Wally Szczerbiak said at halftime of the UD game I really liked: he asked at what point do people hold bubble teams accountable for their record? He was referring to Pittsburgh losing to Virginia Tech despite leading by 11 points at half time. Szczerbiak said basically people will look at that loss and say, "Oh, that's a good loss to a good conference team" but at some point you can't build your resume on only good losses. If only the selection committee felt the same way...

[priceg75]

2/14

A10
VCU 91 v. St. Joe's 81
George Mason 93 v. Richmond 70

Flyer foes
Nebraska 82 v. Penn St. 66
New Mexico 78 v. Boise St. 73

Bubble teams
#13 Kentucky 83 v. Tennessee 58
Clemson 95 v. Wake Forest 83
Virginia Tech 66 @ Pitt 63
Georgia 79 v. Mississippi St. 72
Michigan St. 74 v. Ohio St. 66

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by MikeF That was one thing Wally Szczerbiak said at halftime of the UD game I really liked: he asked at what point do people hold bubble teams accountable for their record? He was referring to Pittsburgh losing to Virginia Tech despite leading by 11 points at half time. Szczerbiak said basically people will look at that loss and say, "Oh, that's a good loss to a good conference team" but at some point you can't build your resume on only good losses. If only the selection committee felt the same way...

Smartest thing I've heard from a talking head in a looooooong time. I've been saying it for a long time that if you had a full schedule with all top 25 teams and went under .500 all of the analytics would still have you rated as a good team. At some point the whole object of the game is to actually WIN so I'd like to see it take that more into account again.

[jack72]

Izzo takes on Dakich's lowly comments.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...tter/97934972/

[CE80]

Originally Posted by jack72 Izzo takes on Dakich's lowly comments. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...tter/97934972/

I was watching the MSU - OSU game in the second half. There was something said but I didn't really know what they were talking about until I saw this. Pretty much bs out of Dakich. It is one thing for students to say things to each other like that but for a broadcaster to say it is bs.

[CoffeeCan]

Games that impact UD:

NW Wildcats need to keep winning! They host Maryland. Would be huge!
UMass vs Duquesne - who do we want here? On one hand, we play Duquesne twice but UMass beat us...
Rhody needs to beat Fordham. They are our only top 50 win (twice). So far.
Bama over Missouri would be big. If they can sneak closer to the bubble it makes us look that much better...

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Medford]

Looks like Fordham is going to win at Rhoda. That sucks

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[Medford]

Duquesne pounded mass
NW is about to lose

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[lhsgolf19]

Like Archie has always said don't let a team beat you twice.

Looks like UD destroyed URI's soul

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[priceg75]

Rhody loss is a killer. If we keep winning it won't matter that they lost, but that's a big if.

They estimate to drop to 60 in the RPI.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Zero wins in top 50 now. Ouch.
Gotta win out
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[C-time]

2016-17 A-10 Standings

1= Dayton and VCU

3-14=

[CE80]

Originally Posted by Gilchrist's Autograph 2 Zero wins in top 50 now. Ouch. Gotta win out Posted via Mobile Device

I am not sure winning out is an absolute at this point but beating VCU is for a possible at large spot.

[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by CE80 I am not sure winning out is an absolute at this point but beating VCU is for a possible at large spot.

I dont know about that either. This is a weak bubble. There is talk of Clemson and Pitt for crying out loud. It is like nobody wants to make the tourney this year.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by CE80 I am not sure winning out is an absolute at this point but beating VCU is for a possible at large spot.

Entirely disagree. We have 9 top 100 wins in 13 tries which is far more than many teams considered on the bubble. You can't look at these things in a vacuum. Teams are compared to others teams. Have you seen the garbage that is considered "on the bubble". We aren't close to that level at this point. IMO, some 15-18 teams would have to leap frog us with only 5-7 games remaining. Highly unlikely.

[CT Flyer]

As every games goes by and UMass keeps losing I keep asking myself how is it possible that we lost to them.

And how the hell did URI only score 43 points tonight?

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[CoffeeCan]

Xavier falling big time.
First they lose Sumner.
Then Blueitt.
Now they lose to Providence (granted a bubble team)
Now they have lost two in a row
3 out of the last 5 are on the road

Not that I feel bad for them at all.

At what point would they be in danger of missing the tourney?

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by CoffeeCan Xavier falling big time. First they lose Sumner. Then Blueitt. Now they lose to Providence (granted a bubble team) Now they have lost two in a row 3 out of the last 5 are on the road Not that I feel bad for them at all. At what point would they be in danger of missing the tourney?

Was thinking the same thing. You would think if they don't finish strong they may be in danger but they are in the BE so they will have a long leash.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by CoffeeCan I dont know about that either. This is a weak bubble. There is talk of Clemson and Pitt for crying out loud. It is like nobody wants to make the tourney this year.

Either they "don't want to make the tourney", or they're taking it for granted that they'll make the tourney based on who they know (aka conference affiliation).
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[maddog07]

Prior to the game their RPI was 13. They are miles away from missing the tournament.

[CE80]

The bigger deal is that PC moves up on the bubble

[priceg75]

4-20 Tulane leads SMU on road by 10.

[ud2]

A URI poster on Keaneyblue.com is saying that Hurley has 5 years and $5 million left on his contract...they can't afford to fire him.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[frisco flyer]

Originally Posted by CE80 The bigger deal is that PC moves up on the bubble

Sorry to disagree, but that is not the bigger deal!

[maddog07]

Is the "rivalry" over?
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[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by CoffeeCan I dont know about that either. This is a weak bubble. There is talk of Clemson and Pitt for crying out loud. It is like nobody wants to make the tourney this year.

All you need to know about Pitt: 12/2/16 @ Pitt (RPI 60) 55, Duquesne (RPI 227) 64

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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by priceg75 4-20 Tulane leads SMU on road by 10.

Just got back from the SMU game. Down 15 at half and looking like a 16 seed. They come back and score 53 the second half. They have size, athleticism, lazy defense, and a half court one-on-one offense. Tulane punked them the first half. This was the Mustang's trap game off an emotional win over Cincy. They survived it by 5. Everyone has one of those games, but not everyone gets lucky and dodges the upset.

[Flyer'95]

Regarding Xavier and their slide, i can recall the committee discounting pretty much our entire season because we lost chris wright. And chris wright was actually coming back for the post season. Sumner and Davis ain't coming back.

Found this quote from 'bracketology' in 2008:

Dayton [19-5 (11-2), RPI: 29, SOS: 86] The Flyers fell short against Xavier and now likely will miss the NCAAs. The overall profile looks very solid, but a lot of that was before Chris Wright got hurt. He never made it back, so the Flyers will have to be evaluated on how they looked without him, which wasn't nearly good enough. When healthy, Dayton had two outstanding nonconference wins -- at Louisville and vs. Pitt.

It's still mind blowing to me that they left us out that year. I doubt that Xavier will even be hurt at all by the committee even if they continue to struggle a bit. Not even in seeding. Their RPI will still be strong.

Meanwhile, we've played all of 2 games with our full line up. But that won't be considered at all.

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Flyer'95 Regarding Xavier and their slide, i can recall the committee discounting pretty much our entire season because we lost chris wright. And chris wright was actually coming back for the post season. Sumner and Davis ain't coming back. Found this quote from 'bracketology' in 2008: Dayton [19-5 (11-2), RPI: 29, SOS: 86] The Flyers fell short against Xavier and now likely will miss the NCAAs. The overall profile looks very solid, but a lot of that was before Chris Wright got hurt. He never made it back, so the Flyers will have to be evaluated on how they looked without him, which wasn't nearly good enough. When healthy, Dayton had two outstanding nonconference wins -- at Louisville and vs. Pitt. It's still mind blowing to me that they left us out that year. I doubt that Xavier will even be hurt at all by the committee even if they continue to struggle a bit. Not even in seeding. Their RPI will still be strong. Meanwhile, we've played all of 2 games with our full line up. But that won't be considered at all.

When it comes to extenuating circumstances it does seem that they only consider those for P5/BE schools and not the peasants. I thought the most egregeous was last year with Syracuse when they considered the absence of Boeheim even though the absence was a penalty imposed on him by the NCAA.

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[BRob2Perryman3]

_avier is gaining steam

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[steve]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer Just got back from the SMU game. Down 15 at half and looking like a 16 seed. They come back and score 53 the second half. They have size, athleticism, lazy defense, and a half court one-on-one offense. Tulane punked them the first half. This was the Mustang's trap game off an emotional win over Cincy. They survived it by 5. Everyone has one of those games, but not everyone gets lucky and dodges the upset.

They may have been one-on-one last night but SMU was far from a "half-court one-on-one offense" against UC. If you actually watched their game against UC they shared the ball extremely well,rotated the ball, kicked it out nicely, pump faked, and made multiple passes. Lots of athletes and lots of big bodies. The only reason that UC was even in the game in the 1st half was they were something like 6-11 from 3 pt. range which is far from anything Cronin has ever put out on the floor.

[priceg75]

2/15

A10
Davidson 74 v. GW 63
Duquesne 96 v. UMass 66
Fordham 53 @ URI 43
St. Bona 83 v. LaSalle 65

Flyer foes
#23 Maryland 74 @ Northwestern 64
Winthrop 83 @ Longwood 63
E. Tenn. St. 79 v. Samford 77
Chattanooga 74 @ VMI 68
Alabama 57 @ Missouri 54

Bubble teams
Seton Hall 87 v. #20 Creighton 81
Arkansas 83 @ #21 S. Carolina 76
Providence 75 v. Xavier 63
Iowa St. 87 @ Kansas St. 79
Miami 70 v. Georgia Tech 61
Oklahoma St. 71 @ TCU 68
Illinois St. 67 @ Missouri St. 66
Nevada 78 @ Air Force 59
Wichita St. 87 @ S. Illinois 68

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Sorry to disagree, but that is not the bigger deal!

No need to be sorry. Even with this loss, X is getting in. With a few more wins, PC could get in too.

[jerseyflyer09]

yeesh. does that loss knock URI out of the top 50? We really need them to be on the right side of 50.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by jerseyflyer09 yeesh. does that loss knock URI out of the top 50? We really need them to be on the right side of 50.

I believe I saw they are now at 59.

[jerseyflyer09]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 I believe I saw they are now at 59.

just saw that. I try to stay positive but I feel like the 'solidly in at 7/8/9' is a little questionable. I know we have a lot of top 100 wins and only one bad loss (and even that loss isn't atrocious) but idk...i've seen us be in worse shape than we thought based on whatever the committee decides to value every year. I want to run the table of course, but I think we NEED VCU. We need that top 50 win.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by jerseyflyer09 just saw that. I try to stay positive but I feel like the 'solidly in at 7/8/9' is a little questionable. I know we have a lot of top 100 wins and only one bad loss (and even that loss isn't atrocious) but idk...i've seen us be in worse shape than we thought based on whatever the committee decides to value every year. I want to run the table of course, but I think we NEED VCU. We need that top 50 win.

UMass lost by 30 to Duquesne...it's atrocious.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Medford]

Originally Posted by Flyer'95 Regarding Xavier and their slide, i can recall the committee discounting pretty much our entire season because we lost chris wright. And chris wright was actually coming back for the post season. Sumner and Davis ain't coming back. Found this quote from 'bracketology' in 2008: Dayton [19-5 (11-2), RPI: 29, SOS: 86] The Flyers fell short against Xavier and now likely will miss the NCAAs. The overall profile looks very solid, but a lot of that was before Chris Wright got hurt. He never made it back, so the Flyers will have to be evaluated on how they looked without him, which wasn't nearly good enough. When healthy, Dayton had two outstanding nonconference wins -- at Louisville and vs. Pitt. It's still mind blowing to me that they left us out that year. I doubt that Xavier will even be hurt at all by the committee even if they continue to struggle a bit. Not even in seeding. Their RPI will still be strong. Meanwhile, we've played all of 2 games with our full line up. But that won't be considered at all.

Seems like that always comes up, but its an apples/oranges scenario. First, UD finished I think .500 in conference, the A10 wasn't super strong that season, UD had several very questionable losses down the stretch, and there was no guarantee that Chris Wright was going to play in an NCAA tournament game, remember he didn't play in the 1st round of the and only played 10 minutes in the second round vs Illinois State.

Fans like to prescribe all these conspiracy theories to the committee, and perhaps there's even truth to some of it, but that particular team, that particular season certainly wasn't playing like an NCAA team coming down the stretch. Full healthy, with Chris Wright there to take some of the load and attention away from BRob, they would have been dangerous but the committee had no reason to believe or think they'd ever see a healthy Chris Wright in the tournament.

The biggest advantages w/ the P5 conferences and the Big East is that there are far more opportunities for high quality wins, and a good chunk of those come on your own home court while at the same time, there are far fewer chances for really bad losses. That is one aspect I wish the committee would recognize. They seem perfectly happy to reward a team with a couple of high quality wins despite a large number of over all losses b/c they showed the "potential" to play great, while not considering just how difficult it is for any team to waltz into many of the venues in the A10, MVC, Mountain West, West Coast Conference, etc... and routinely pick up victories. I wish they would recognize that sometimes you are going to show up at a team like UMass and just not "have it", while a team in the P5 may show up and "not have it" but its against top 25 team so it just looks like a random drubbing w/ little time spent on the actual final score than a really bad loss.

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[priceg75]

I was wondering about the Dayton bracketology record from that "2008" listing... we never had an 11-2 conference record under BG that I can recall.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by steve They may have been one-on-one last night but SMU was far from a "half-court one-on-one offense" against UC. If you actually watched their game against UC they shared the ball extremely well,rotated the ball, kicked it out nicely, pump faked, and made multiple passes. Lots of athletes and lots of big bodies. The only reason that UC was even in the game in the 1st half was they were something like 6-11 from 3 pt. range which is far from anything Cronin has ever put out on the floor.

Did not see the Cincy game, but the SMU star was 4/17 last night. The team was the polar opposite of the Cincy game if they were that good.

"We just had to try to win the second half on grit really, and just will. And once again, they did," Jankovich said. "I have so much respect for our team. ... I hoped we learned a good lesson."

It was ugly. But the pure definition of a trap game. It will be interesting to see how they do in the NCAA's.

[Medford]

I assume that's 11-2 non conference, which felt like the norm under BG with a .500ish finish in conference play. That season, the OOC was very, very strong.

[priceg75]

That's our record now, so I think it's just pulled in current data somehow. Even 11-2 OOC would be 8-3 in conference with that overall record... we never did THAT either.

[The Fly]

I think BG's best conference records were his two NCAA seasons -- 12-2 in 2004 and 11-5 in 2009. Just about everything else was 8-8 or worse.

[ud2]

UD had some bad losses in 2008, and the sos of 86 was not great, those were part of the reasons for the snub.

I am not defending the committee's decision, just offering additional rationale.

[Fudd]

Originally Posted by BRob2Perryman3 _avier is gaining steam

You mean, "...is a steaming pile"?

[AZFlyer85]

Another big factor. Of course, I have no proof, but teams with a consistent history of making the dance and with head coaches that analysts talk about a lot seem to have an edge in getting into the dance. Archie has clearly put us in that category. Not to mention TV ratings, which I'm sure are always better than average when we play. There is a lot more for us than there is against us.

[priceg75]

2/16

Flyer foes
#22 St. Mary's 81 v. Loyola Marymount 48
Vanderbilt 72 v. Texas A&M 67
Austin Peay 85 v. E. Illinois 80
Pacific 76 @ Portland 65

Bubble teams
Michigan 64 v. #11 Wisconsin 58
UNC-Wilmington 66 @ Northeastern 65
Middle Tennessee 78 @ W. Kentucky 52

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by priceg75 2/16 Flyer foes #22 St. Mary's 81 v. Loyola Marymount 48 Vanderbilt 72 v. Texas A&M 67 Austin Peay 85 v. E. Illinois 80 Pacific 76 @ Portland 65 Bubble teams Michigan 64 v. #11 Wisconsin 58 UNC-Wilmington 66 @ Northeastern 65 Middle Tennessee 78 @ W. Kentucky 52

That was a huge win for Michigan. They have been playing some good basketball as of late. They also have wins over Indiana and MSU the last couple of weeks.

[TerryK_67]

But .... this is not your father's Indiana, nor your father's MSU......

[jack72]

The advantage of playing in a tough league, not only more recognition and SOS, but you can right a bad season by knocking off some good teams late in the season, and make the NCAA despite a bad record.

[xubrew]

Originally Posted by priceg75 2/16 Flyer foes #22 St. Mary's 81 v. Loyola Marymount 48 Vanderbilt 72 v. Texas A&M 67 Austin Peay 85 v. E. Illinois 80 Pacific 76 @ Portland 65 Bubble teams Michigan 64 v. #11 Wisconsin 58 UNC-Wilmington 66 @ Northeastern 65 Middle Tennessee 78 @ W. Kentucky 52

Wilmington has a very high ceiling. The problem is they don't always play up to it, but when they do they're really good. They almost blew that one last night, but still have at least an outside shot for an at-large bid if they end up needing it.

It sucks that both Middle Tennessee and UNCW will most likely have to win what is essentially a road game in order to win their conference tournaments. The Colonial is in Charleston, and although it's not on CofC's campus, the crowd will certainly be partial toward them if the two meet in the finals. Middle Tennessee may have to play UAB in Birmingham as early as the semis.

[MikeF]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 That was a huge win for Michigan. They have been playing some good basketball as of late. They also have wins over Indiana and MSU the last couple of weeks.

Unlucky scheduling, possibly, for a team looking to "gather steam" with four of their last five games on the road...though one of those is Rutgers, and I don't think it matters where you play them (but, hey, New York City television eyes!).

[RamodWaleskowski]

Ohio State. So disappointing.

[C-time]

Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski Ohio State. So disappointing.

Well at least it was Nebraska who beat them so it at least helps UD a little this year.

And Northwestern managed to not lose to Rutgers so that's good too.

[C-time]

Marquette 21 Xavier 2

13:35 left in the first half.

I hate both teams but that score is just absurd.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[frisco flyer]

Xavier is on a gravity-assisted trajectory toward the bottom of the big east. Losing big to a mediocre Marquette team 65-49 with just under 8 min left in the game

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[frisco flyer]

The bloodbath has mercifully ended.

gXavier 61
Marquette 83

[The Fly]

Big win for Vandy over No. 21 (and overrated) South Carolina. Commodores may yet turn into a Top 50 win. Most Flyer foes having a nice night.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Xavier is on a gravity-assisted trajectory toward the bottom of the big east. Losing big to a mediocre Marquette team 65-49 with just under 8 min left in the game

Checked KenPom this morning for a different reason, and saw where he currently has X rated 37th. Their RPI is still in the teens, but those numbers may not have been updated for the Marquette result.

I know they've had injuries to a couple of key players (Sumner & Bluiett), but the sudden lack of competitiveness is still a bit surprising. Will be interested to see how they fare over the next 5-6 games.
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[BRob2Perryman3]

Originally Posted by The Fly Big win for Vandy over No. 21 (and overrated) South Carolina. Commodores may yet turn into a Top 50 win. Most Flyer foes having a nice night.

Currently 49th. And Rhody is making their way back too.

If Vandy and Rhody hold strong and we beat VCU we will be 4-3 against the Top 50 headed to Pittsburgh. Outside of our own wins, Rhode Island and Vanderbilt are the two most important teams to us

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[BRob2Perryman3]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 Checked KenPom this morning for a different reason, and saw where he currently has X rated 37th. Their RPI is still in the teens, but those numbers may not have been updated for the Marquette result. I know they've had injuries to a couple of key players (Sumner & Bluiett), but the sudden lack of competitiveness is still a bit surprising. Will be interested to see how they fare over the next 5-6 games. Posted via Mobile Device

So unfortunate. They are not a lock. Not yet atleast. They could still implode. Oh how sweet that would be.

[rollo]

Hopefully _avier's late season momentum will put them in a play-in game.

But I'd prefer them to be an 11 with UD a 6.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CoffeeCan]

[QUOTE=BRob2Perryman3;488571]Currently 49th. And Rhody is making their way back too.

We beat VCU: 1 top 50 win
URI beats VCU: add 2 more (3 total)
Vandy wins at Tenn and vs Miss: total of 4 top 40 wins.

Wound need URI and Vandy to probably win their first conference tourney game to keep them in top 50.

The committee members who dont really follow the A10 closely would look at us so much more differently with 4 top 50 wins than 1. So we need some luck as well. We deserve it based on all the injuries, etc.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[priceg75]

Yeah, Xavier could lose their last 5 in a row and still make it.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CE80]

Off topic here but does Vandy have any shot at the tourney? That would be bigger. A win against another tourney team.
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[MikeF]

Originally Posted by priceg75 Yeah, Xavier could lose their last 5 in a row and still make it.

Currently they're 18-9 and sitting at #17 in the UD Pride RPI. They're 1-6 v. the top 25, 3-6 v. the top 50, and 5-7 in their last 12 games.

High RPI (when beneficial)? Check
Good losses (when beneficial)? Check
Gaining steam? Check

They're rocketing toward a three seed, easily!

[Fudd]

Are we going to cheer against Xavier in the NIT?

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.