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Old 09-11-2017, 03:30 PM
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Do we have a realistic shot here?
I will be surprised if he isn't a Flyer with some of the tweets and people he's recently followed. Also, with the new crystal balls now going our way. Would be a huge get!!!
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Looks like most of the "experts" are predicting Ohio State.
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Old 09-11-2017, 03:48 PM
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Looks like most of the "experts" are predicting Ohio State.
Those are old predictions. The new predictions that have came since his visit have all 3 been for UD. We will see!
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Buckeyes?src=hash">#Buckeyes</a> target likely about to announce before taking an official visit to Ohio State. Infer from that as you will. <a href="https://t.co/OcKri3omY2">https://t.co/OcKri3omY2</a></p>&mdash; Adam Jardy (@AdamJardy) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamJardy/status/907270344498696192">September 11, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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For those that are having trouble making sense of that, a guy who tweets about OSU hoops (Dispatch beat writer covering the bucks as well, so a recognizable source) is saying that Cohill is likely to announce before taking an official visit to OSU (This weekend was when it was scheduled, perhaps next IIRC), infer from that as you will.

Sounds like a Boom! to me (Fingers crossed)
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Originally Posted by Medford View Post
For those that are having trouble making sense of that, a guy who tweets about OSU hoops (Dispatch beat writer covering the bucks as well, so a recognizable source) is saying that Cohill is likely to announce before taking an official visit to OSU (This weekend was when it was scheduled, perhaps next IIRC), infer from that as you will.

Sounds like a Boom! to me (Fingers crossed)
Again, signs are positive, but this guy is simply interpreting Cohill's tweet the same as we are.
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Guess I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to embedding a tweet!
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Buckeyes?src=hash">#Buckeyes</a> target likely about to announce before taking an official visit to Ohio State. Infer from that as you will. <a href="https://t.co/OcKri3omY2">https://t.co/OcKri3omY2</a></p>&mdash; Adam Jardy (@AdamJardy) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamJardy/status/907270344498696192">September 11, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Here is the link to this tweet since something got messed up for flyerfan4life when trying to post it.

https://twitter.com/AdamJardy/status/907270344498696192

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I don't think you can embed tweets on here. I have never been able to. I just post a link to the tweets.
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Old 09-11-2017, 05:26 PM
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Could be an oversight or he could know something. This is a Rivals analyst talking about Ohio St's recruiting

While the Buckeyes would love to add at least one wing prospect this fall, they are more focused on their backcourt as they pursue the Rivals150 guards Noah Locke, Luther Muhammad, Mike DeVoe, Bryce Hamilton, Eric Ayala, Duane Washington Jr., and Elijah Weaver.
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Still nothing. Maybe he won't be committing any time until after all of his visits.
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According to Corey Evans of Rivals, AG might not be done

Cohill is a good start for Dayton as it remains in pursuit of others backcourt options this fall including Anthony Nelson, Philmon Gebrewhit, Omar Silverio and Jared Rhoden.
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Old 09-12-2017, 01:13 PM
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According to Corey Evans of Rivals, AG might not be done
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Who are these clowns who write these articles? He says Cohill is Grant's first commitment at UD. I guess he has never heard of Jalen Crutcher or Obadiah Toppin. He then says Cohill will take over the starting point guard position as a sophomore. He must have a crystal ball.
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Question to those more in the know:

If we got another commit, guard or otherwise, that would essentially mean Sam Miller is not coming back right?
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Question to those more in the know:

If we got another commit, guard or otherwise, that would essentially mean Sam Miller is not coming back right?
Not necessarily, he could come back as a walk-on. My thought is that is doubtful.
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Question to those more in the know:

If we got another commit, guard or otherwise, that would essentially mean Sam Miller is not coming back right?
I think it would be leaning that way but the other option could be that someone else on the current roster might not be back
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Question to those more in the know:

If we got another commit, guard or otherwise, that would essentially mean Sam Miller is not coming back right?
or the 2nd scholarship may come from one of the 7 new guys who thought they were gonna be "the man", and later found out all they were getting was splinters....
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According to the web site verbal commits.com, just today Antwann Jones, Jr. (6-6, 205 4*) Overall Rank: 27 Position Rank 5 has trimmed his list to 4 and removed Dayton from consideration.

According to 247sports.com his final 4 are Kansas, Memphis, Oklahoma St and NC St.
Kansas and NC St. were just added today and Memphis and Oklahoma St. offered in June of 2016. Archie offered way before any of the above.

Similar to Dwayne Cohill, it makes one wonder because Jones career progressed and he rose in the recruiting rankings as well. I don't think Jones was told (like Cohill) that he was too much of a "big-time player" to come to Dayton as much as Jones saw where the Flyers made it clear to Dwayne that he was their No. 1 priority!

He probably said to himself, "I've got bigger fish to fry." Who knows what goes on in the world of recruiting! I wouldn't doubt that Kansas and NC St. just offered today to protect themselves as they both are recruiting 4 and 5 star shooting guards Keldon Johnson and Romeo Langford!

All I know is that I am extremely happy with the way CAG has recruited so far. I love Jalen Crutcher, Obadiah Toppin and Dwayne Cohill. The others remaining that he has offered are all keepers as well and we should feel fortunate to get any one of them.
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Anthony Nelson supposedly cut his list to five: Clemson, Dayton, Minnesota, Seton Hall, and West Virginia. Pretty good company. He's supposed to visit the weekend of the 22nd. Would be a great get to play alongside Cohill.
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Anthony Nelson supposedly cut his list to five: Clemson, Dayton, Minnesota, Seton Hall, and West Virginia. Pretty good company. He's supposed to visit the weekend of the 22nd. Would be a great get to play alongside Cohill.
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or the 2nd scholarship may come from one of the 7 new guys who thought they were gonna be "the man", and later found out all they were getting was splinters....
This is an excellent point; that's a lot of new blood. In reality, there could be a 2nd and 3rd available by the time it all shakes out.

... and that's not even taking into consideration Kostas going pro
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Not necessarily, he could come back as a walk-on. My thought is that is doubtful.
I know someone will correct me if I am wrong but if Sam comes back he counts against the scholarship limit regardless of if he pays his own way because he is a "recruitable athlete" as defined by the NCAA.
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I know someone will correct me if I am wrong but if Sam comes back he counts against the scholarship limit regardless of if he pays his own way because he is a "recruitable athlete" as defined by the NCAA.
My thought also.
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I know someone will correct me if I am wrong but if Sam comes back he counts against the scholarship limit regardless of if he pays his own way because he is a "recruitable athlete" as defined by the NCAA.
Then how did Louisville get away with having two scholarship players go as walk ons so they could bring in two recruits. Yes they had injuries but rules are rules. And that is the year Louisville won the national championship.

And I'll bet they didn't pay their tuition for that year. Bet it was forgiven, but did anyone check?
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I know someone will correct me if I am wrong but if Sam comes back he counts against the scholarship limit regardless of if he pays his own way because he is a "recruitable athlete" as defined by the NCAA.
You can't put a "recruitable athlete" on an academic scholarship to give you an extra scholarship. But a recruitable athlete can pay his own way. It doesn't happen often, but it is permissable.
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Originally Posted by DallasFlyer View Post
You can't put a "recruitable athlete" on an academic scholarship to give you an extra scholarship. But a recruitable athlete can pay his own way. It doesn't happen often, but it is permissable.
Thanks for the clarification. I must remember incorrectly but I thought there was a whole conversation about his when Michael Jordan's kids were in college. People were saying "why wouldn't MJ just pay the tuition to give the team an extra scholarship?" I thought the answer was that the NCAA didn't allow that. If it is allowed I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more with pro athletes' kids, or just kids with money, (Steph and Seth Curry, Johnny Manzeil, etc...).
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Originally Posted by Flyers98 View Post
Thanks for the clarification. I must remember incorrectly but I thought there was a whole conversation about his when Michael Jordan's kids were in college. People were saying "why wouldn't MJ just pay the tuition to give the team an extra scholarship?" I thought the answer was that the NCAA didn't allow that. If it is allowed I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more with pro athletes' kids, or just kids with money, (Steph and Seth Curry, Johnny Manzeil, etc...).
If I have a kid who is offered a free ride you better believe they are taking it if they choose that school. Im not paying for them to go somewhere that would otherwise be free. Call me cheap but college is to **** expensive
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Originally Posted by Flyers98 View Post
Thanks for the clarification. I must remember incorrectly but I thought there was a whole conversation about his when Michael Jordan's kids were in college. People were saying "why wouldn't MJ just pay the tuition to give the team an extra scholarship?" I thought the answer was that the NCAA didn't allow that. If it is allowed I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more with pro athletes' kids, or just kids with money, (Steph and Seth Curry, Johnny Manzeil, etc...).
Some examples:

David Stockton, son of John, walked on at Gonzaga and was a role player. I think he legitimately didn't have scholarship offers, but John Stockton is at every Gonzaga game and would absolutely write a check for anything Mark Few asked him for to help that program. David was a decent role player at Gonzaga.

Doc Rivers' son, Spencer, played at UC-Irvine for at least a season without using a scholarship. Another kid who was a role player, but no where near as good as his father.

All-American Doug McDermott played his senior season as a walk-on. His dad was the head coach at Creighton, and what happened was another player was awarded a 6th year of eligibility putting them one over the limit. So Greg McDermott just reduced his paycheck slightly to cover it.

The Louisville example mentioned above... Pitino had two guys actually - one the son of a neurosurgeon and the other who was in someway related to JR Smith that were starters, paying their own way so Pitino could effectively go 2 scholarships over the limit.

Connor McCaffery a top 100 b-ball recruit is redshirting at Iowa this year as a walk-on where his dad is the coach. He's playing baseball there too, but not using any athletic scholarship.

And finally, at Dayton, Keith Waleskowski paid his own way to come to Dayton and walk-on as a redshirt freshman with the understanding he would be on scholarship the next 4 seasons. Now, a scholarship may have opened up that year so not sure how much tuition he actually had to cover if any.

So it does happen... occasionally.
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You can't put a "recruitable athlete" on an academic scholarship to give you an extra scholarship. But a recruitable athlete can pay his own way. It doesn't happen often, but it is permissable.
Didn't Brian Donoher get a free ride because his Daddy was faculty to free up a scholarship? I think I remember something like that. Was he recruitable or has this changed since then?
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If I have a kid who is offered a free ride you better believe they are taking it if they choose that school. Im not paying for them to go somewhere that would otherwise be free. Call me cheap but college is to **** expensive
You say that now, but this is a scenario that typically plays out with people that are making a ton of money. If you were a multi-millionaire, and your son was a star basketball player who wanted to go to Dayton, but Dayton had no scholarships to give, then it would simply be a matter of whether you wanted to make a financial contribution that is within NCAA rules to directly help the basketball program gain an advantage. Heck, it might be worth the money at that point in that it saves you from having to closely follow a second program!
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Originally Posted by DallasFlyer View Post
You say that now, but this is a scenario that typically plays out with people that are making a ton of money. If you were a multi-millionaire, and your son was a star basketball player who wanted to go to Dayton, but Dayton had no scholarships to give, then it would simply be a matter of whether you wanted to make a financial contribution that is within NCAA rules to directly help the basketball program gain an advantage. Heck, it might be worth the money at that point in that it saves you from having to closely follow a second program!
Honestly, if my kid was that good I'd tell him to pay his way and pay it back later. No school is worth more than $200k if you can get it for free.
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Jaxson Hayes was just offered by KY. He has taken official visits to X and OSU, and was to take an unofficial to UD. Hayes is the son of the Bengals tight ends coach and a former NFL player, and his mom played D1 basketball.

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