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Old 12-28-2021, 02:00 PM
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We’ve got more. Also on A-10 postpoment list for Thursday, per sources:

Dayton-Rhode Island
Davidson-Duquesne
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Saint Louis-UMass

None getting played Thursday. I think the A-10 has been hit as hard—if not harder—by postponements this week than any other league.
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We’ve got more. Also on A-10 postpoment list for Thursday, per sources:

Dayton-Rhode Island
Davidson-Duquesne
St. Bonaventure-GW
Saint Louis-UMass

None getting played Thursday. I think the A-10 has been hit as hard—if not harder—by postponements this week than any other league.
You can add Mason vs VCU to the list
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This looks like 2020-21 2.0. Going to be a real circus going forward. Reading the new A-10 covid policy it looks like all kinds of things will affect the playing of games, and possible foreits. Well at least we don't open on the road, at least for now.
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Old 12-28-2021, 02:40 PM
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This would be terrible for home fans, but hear me out. With the Atlantic 10 consider moving this game to DC on, say, March 8 or ninth, and have both teams there for the Atlantic 10 tournament? This way, they could get the game in, and both teams depending on net ranking at that point, may benefit from another neutral court win. To me, everything‘s on the table at this point.
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Old 12-28-2021, 02:57 PM
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The Xavier vs. UConn game in Cincinnati got postponed due to covid issues at UConn. Dust off the Blackburn McCafferty trophy and let's play.
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As it currently stands, both teams appear to have seven days between games from February 12 through February 19. So, I would expect this game to be shoehorned somewhere in that week. Again, pending any other cancellations of course.
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Women's game with URI rescheduled for 16 FEB.
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Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
The Xavier vs. UConn game in Cincinnati got postponed due to covid issues at UConn. Dust off the Blackburn McCafferty trophy and let's play.
Except that these games will be rescheduled so if we play another game we would exceed the allowable number of games.
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the A-10 regular season champion and BYE teams. How awful.
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I wish the conference would say who has the Covid issues as in is it Rhode Island? Is it us? Is it George Mason? Is it VCU? Is it all of them? More so we can get an idea of whether or not the team we play next may cause a postponement. Example, we play VCU in just about a week. If they are having Covid problems, that game is subject to postponement. If it’s George Mason, we have nothing to worry about.
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is it Rhode Island? Is it us?
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John Bedell reported it was RI, not us.

Part of me wishes it was us too and let it run its course and in a week we are done and move on
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John Bedell reported it was RI, not us.

Part of me wishes it was us too and let it run its course and in a week we are done and move on
Rhody website says both their men's/women's teams having Covid problems.
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Old 12-28-2021, 03:58 PM
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Rhody website says both their men's/women's teams having Covid problems.
This is the third game in a row URI has canceled/postponed dating back to 12/19.
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Old 12-28-2021, 04:08 PM
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https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...735898114?s=20

This needs to be the policy for all sports. Good to see UD following it
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https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...735898114?s=20

This needs to be the policy for all sports. Good to see UD following it

Agreed. However, local jurisdictions may have different rules about these things so this approach can’t be universal.
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How many 18-22 year olds dying from Overdose and nothing getting postponed. Ridiculous
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How many 18-22 year olds dying from Overdose and nothing getting postponed. Ridiculous
don't forget car accidents!
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This is the third game in a row URI has canceled/postponed dating back to 12/19.

I was thinking the same thing CT,
this makes 3 straight games that they
have cancelled due to COVIC issues...
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How many 18-22 year olds dying from Overdose and nothing getting postponed. Ridiculous
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don't forget car accidents!

Last I checked, those occurrences are not contagious. Covid is.
Give me a break.

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Except that these games will be rescheduled so if we play another game we would exceed the allowable number of games.
But what are the chances that we are able to get multiple cancelled games rescheduled? Fair enough, we have to assume that all these games will be rescheduled.

Dayton and RI both play on Sat 2/12 and Sat 2/19 with no games in between those 2 dates. Between 2/12 and 2/19 is the only such overlapping schedule gap for both teams, looks like that will have to be when the game is made up.
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https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...735898114?s=20

This needs to be the policy for all sports. Good to see UD following it
I need a refresher on why this is the new policy. Asymptomatic, vaccinated people can still be spreaders.
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Seven A-10 teams now on pause for Covid. Future scheduling is going to be a real trick, and we haven't seen the end of it yet.
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How many 18-22 year olds dying from Overdose and nothing getting postponed. Ridiculous
True, but how would postponing games prevent overdoses..
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Last I checked, those occurrences are not contagious. Covid is.
Give me a break.

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If they were that concerned with the contagious part they would play the games without fans or require proof of vaccination where you have almost no chance of getting sick. These kids do in fact have a much higher chance of dying in an auto accident than from COVID. This one size fits all type of restrictions is really silly.
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I have a nephew playing DII and a niece playing DI hoops. Both teams shut down by Covid. Doesn't make me an expert but it does lend some additional perspective. Players are usually more than just teammates; they are friends. When 4, 5, or 8 of your friends is sick, the two main thoughts are I hope my friend is ok and I hope I don't get it. Their parents are looking at it the same way. It's not for me or some self-Important poster to decide that because a kid hasn't died the game must go on. I can't speak for every program but I think most are trying to do the right thing. No school wants to lose revenue and no coach wants to sit in front of a recruit's mother and say they didn't take steps to keep kids healthy to the best of their ability. If UD had 5 or 6 players with Covid, I think the opinion on postponing games might be different.

To be clear, I don't think seasons should be cancelled or anything extreme needs to occur at this point. But acting as if postponing games is some affront to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is, to put it gently, silly.
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Perspective is a good thing to have. That’s why the CDC publishes the numbers of those getting sick and dying from COVID. When you look at the actual facts we have overblown this virus vs other risk factors we have in life. https://mobile.twitter.com/peteybuck...87248586571787

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Looking at death statistics is a simplified and incomplete view. Like saying only deaths count as casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many more injuries that did not result in death.

As a percentage death rates are low, but those getting the disease can get get very very sick without going to the hospital. And this disease is very contagious while spreading. asymptomatically. I know of more than a few people who have long hauler symptoms. I know survivors who spent weeks on a ventilator.



We are all tired of this but cooperation would have made a huge difference. UD teams are vaccinated and have played every game. Hmmmmm…
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Looking at death statistics is a simplified and incomplete view. Like saying only deaths count as casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many more injuries that did not result in death.

As a percentage death rates are low, but those getting the disease can get get very very sick without going to the hospital. And this disease is very contagious while spreading. asymptomatically. I know of more than a few people who have long hauler symptoms. I know survivors who spent weeks on a ventilator.



We are all tired of this but cooperation would have made a huge difference. UD teams are vaccinated and have played every game. Hmmmmm…
I think we're seeing a high percentage of breakthrough infections now with the Omicron strain of those with just the 2 shot series. Be interesting to see the numbers for those that have gotten their booster. My son and his wife are just getting over Covid after having received the 2 doses of the vaccine, and the daughter-in-law actually had Covid a few months back, but was not vaccinated before. They traveled to NYC the weekend before Christmas, and got sick after they returned.
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Looking at death statistics is a simplified and incomplete view. Like saying only deaths count as casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many more injuries that did not result in death.

As a percentage death rates are low, but those getting the disease can get get very very sick without going to the hospital. And this disease is very contagious while spreading. asymptomatically. I know of more than a few people who have long hauler symptoms. I know survivors who spent weeks on a ventilator.



We are all tired of this but cooperation would have made a huge difference. UD teams are vaccinated and have played every game. Hmmmmm…
I don’t know if you were responding to my post, but the CDC stats show both hospitalizations and deaths from Covid. For those vaccinated the numbers are extremely small for both.
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I don’t know if you were responding to my post, but the CDC stats show both hospitalizations and deaths from Covid. For those vaccinated the numbers are extremely small for both.
Uh huh: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/11/25/severe-reactions-to-covid-vaccines-are-far-more-common-than-official-data-show-here-is-the-stunning-new-evidence/
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Uh huh: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/11/25/severe-reactions-to-covid-vaccines-are-far-more-common-than-official-data-show-here-is-the-stunning-new-evidence/
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Do you vet news sources for historical accuracy and integrity, or do you just click the first google result that confirms your bias? I assume you’re smart enough not to trust email in your inbox (or you would get scammed a lot), so why would you trust random websites on the internet?
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I am double vaxxed and boosted and I had symptoms xmas day and tested positive on the 26th. I had 36 hrs of moderate symptoms and feel 90% better already. So far the other 14 people in the house haven’t come down with it. I think it’s not much of a problem for the vaxxed. The unvaxxed made their choices.
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I am double vaxxed and boosted and I had symptoms xmas day and tested positive on the 26th. I had 36 hrs of moderate symptoms and feel 90% better already. So far the other 14 people in the house haven’t come down with it. I think it’s not much of a problem for the vaxxed. The unvaxxed made their choices.
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I have a friend, my age (60) - he and his wife were not vaxxed, both got sick with Covid, had minor symptoms for a few days and I quote him when I asked about his experience, he said: "it was no big deal". So serious question: What makes you believe that your symptoms or outcome would have been substantially worse had you not been jabbed 3 times? Or put another way, how did the 3 jabs help you?
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I have a friend, my age (60) - he and his wife were not vaxxed, both got sick with Covid, had minor symptoms for a few days and I quote him when I asked about his experience, he said: "it was no big deal". So serious question: What makes you believe that your symptoms or outcome would have been substantially worse had you not been jabbed 3 times? Or put another way, how did the 3 jabs help you?
I think the bottom line is that over 99% of all folks whether vaxxed or not will not get seriously ill from the virus. However, the statistics now show that if you’ve been vaxxed your risk is something like .001% of serious illness, whereas if you’ve not been vaxxed it’s probably around .01%. Both are extremely small risks- it’s just that one is about 10x greater.
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I have a friend, my age (60) - he and his wife were not vaxxed, both got sick with Covid, had minor symptoms for a few days and I quote him when I asked about his experience, he said: "it was no big deal". So serious question: What makes you believe that your symptoms or outcome would have been substantially worse had you not been jabbed 3 times? Or put another way, how did the 3 jabs help you?
The plural of anecdote is not data.

TA is correct. The risks of serious infection among the general population are small but not insignificant—especially for those over the age of 60-65 and those with comorbidities. To deny this is just silly. Also, to deny that the vaccine does not reduce the chance of serious illness is also just silly. Data are always better than anecdotes.

I just don’t get why this is all so complicated. Most should get the vaxx. If you don’t want to, it’s on you. Take the risk. If you fall in a high risk category and die; well, that is Darwinism at work. I guess you can always say goodbye to your loved ones through a ventilator. But to deny data by pointing to anecdotes is ridiculous.
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I have a friend, my age (60) - he and his wife were not vaxxed, both got sick with Covid, had minor symptoms for a few days and I quote him when I asked about his experience, he said: "it was no big deal". So serious question: What makes you believe that your symptoms or outcome would have been substantially worse had you not been jabbed 3 times? Or put another way, how did the 3 jabs help you?
I am almost 65 and overweight but not obese. In my specific case I don’t think that COVID would have been serious for me because I had two siblings already have very mild cases so I suspect I had a genetic mix that is not real susceptible. In the larger statistical case my son in law is a surgeon and in the hospital network that he works for 90% of the hospitalized COVID patients now are unvaxxed. if 75% of adults are vaccinated my UD math degree tells me that the vaccine reduces the probability of hospitalization by a factor of 27.
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The overwhelming risk to the population as a whole is the overrunning of the medical system. It is not addressing the hopeful outcome of "not getting real sick". The data shows that enough people get sick enough to have to go to the hospital, and that the risk to all of us who might suffer some non-covid related illness or need for surgery is that the hospitals are overwhelmed and cannot take us in.

This whole situation is about protecting not only yourself but others in the society we all share. I thank all the hospital staffs for their dedication to humankind. I know you are exhausted and consider all of you heroes.

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I am 72, almost 73, could shed a few pounds and diabetic. I am vaxed and had the booster. It made sense for me to do so. I do question some of the data regarding deaths. There are those who have died FROM the virus and those who have died WITH the virus. I believe that ALL of the above cases have been reported as deaths caused FROM the virus.
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According to Cleveland.COM, on December 24th, over 95% of hospitalization and deaths from COVID in Ohio in 2021 are to people not fully vaccinated.

In the United States, deaths jumped significantly in 2020, an increase of 17% from the previous year.

Fully vaccinated people are getting COVID now thanks to Omicron, but their symptoms are less severe, and they are not being hospitalized anywhere near the same rate as the unvaccinated.

Talk to health care professionals who work in COVID units to see for yourself.
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According to Cleveland.COM, on December 24th, over 95% of hospitalization and deaths from COVID in Ohio in 2021 are to people not fully vaccinated.

In the United States, deaths jumped significantly in 2020, an increase of 17% from the previous year.

Fully vaccinated people are getting COVID now thanks to Omicron, but their symptoms are less severe, and they are not being hospitalized anywhere near the same rate as the unvaccinated.

Talk to health care professionals who work in COVID units to see for yourself.
How the heck did we get onto the vaccine? "Fully vaccinated" people were getting covid long before Omicron. Antibody loss at 6 months is massive. Unless you've had a booster in the last several months you aren't vaccinated at all, IMO.
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How the heck did we get onto the vaccine? "Fully vaccinated" people were getting covid long before Omicron. Antibody loss at 6 months is massive. Unless you've had a booster in the last several months you aren't vaccinated at all, IMO.
I am no virologist but from what I have read your immune system has memory cells that remember how to make the antibodies. So production rapidly ramps up if you are infected. The would be a good explanation of the course of the illness that occurred to me.
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From what I have seen, just as an observer, vaccinated people are also less likely to put themselves into situations where there is a higher chance of catching it than those not vaccinated. It seems the vaccinated, from my perspective, are more cautious and that might play a part in their lower infection rate.
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I am double vaxxed and boosted and I had symptoms xmas day and tested positive on the 26th. I had 36 hrs of moderate symptoms and feel 90% better already. So far the other 14 people in the house haven’t come down with it. I think it’s not much of a problem for the vaxxed. The unvaxxed made their choices.
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Wait, what, you live in a house of 15? COVID is the least of your worries!
I can't count, only 13 total, Me, the wife, 5 kids, 3 kid spouses, one kid girl friend and 2 grandkids. In a few days we will be empty nesters again.
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I can't count, only 13 total, Me, the wife, 5 kids, 3 kid spouses, one kid girl friend and 2 grandkids. In a few days we will be empty nesters again.
You forgot 3 others...Sam Adams, Johnnie Walker and Jim Beam.
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You forgot 3 others...Sam Adams, Johnnie Walker and Jim Beam.
And Henry Weinhard, RIP...
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You forgot 3 others...Sam Adams, Johnnie Walker and Jim Beam.
Actually Rollo it’s Mark, Maker’s Mark.
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Rhode Island will play their Sunday game, as for VCU, still in protocols. Interesting to see if this new CDC Edith, I mean business-driven and not science – driven guidance, will change things.
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In the United States, deaths jumped significantly in 2020, an increase of 17% from the previous year.
Statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics. Are you aware that both of those statements can be true, and yet be only correlated?

I don't have the article in front of me but I read that only about 5% of the increase is due to covid, an expected outcome to a global pandemic. A larger part is because people with potential cancer aren't going to the doctor but instead hiding in their houses, potential heart attack victims are saying "it's just indigestion" and going to bed instead of the ER, etc.

As we thin the herd in 2020-2022, I would expect to see a flip back upward in the years after that. A large % of the people who died of covid (not the anecdote of "this one guy I know who was healthy") were statistically likely to die in the following 5 years.
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Rhode Island will play their Sunday game, as for VCU, still in protocols. Interesting to see if this new CDC Edith, I mean business-driven and not science – driven guidance, will change things.
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Ok, this was posted on 12/31. The VCU game is on 1/5. Any update on VCU? I couldn't see anything on their website. Is this game in jeopardy of not happening??
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Old 01-05-2022, 03:04 PM
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Old 01-05-2022, 03:32 PM
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Old 01-05-2022, 03:39 PM
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As it currently stands, both teams appear to have seven days between games from February 12 through February 19. So, I would expect this game to be shoehorned somewhere in that week. Again, pending any other cancellations of course.
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Dayton and RI both play on Sat 2/12 and Sat 2/19 with no games in between those 2 dates. Between 2/12 and 2/19 is the only such overlapping schedule gap for both teams, looks like that will have to be when the game is made up.
As predicted.

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