21-22 season lookahead

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by maddog07 Hey, I want want to jump on the crazy optimistic bandwagon. After all our backcourt is anchored by the 4th best guard on the 7th best team in the a10..... and now he has help from the 8th highest scorer on perhaps the worst team in Big East history. Where do I sign up for my final four tickets? Posted via Mobile Device

Party pooper.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by podcast411 Blakney will be THE guy this season - that is my prediction.

Pencil me in as Amzil being the guy that gets even better than his extremely good freshman year.

[bcross]

Originally Posted by springborofan Thanks for the preview…I guess Weaver and Elvis are first on the list. Next?

Weaver would have been the 4th best guard with the top three guards from last year being the three senior guards. I'd have to agree that guard play is still a question mark at this point.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by bcross Weaver would have been the 4th best guard with the top three guards from last year being the three senior guards. I'd have to agree that guard play is still a question mark at this point.

good writeup from June 14 on one of the
question marks "at this point", Malachi Smith
think we are in good hands.....https://bvmsports.com/2021/06/14/all...dayton-career/

[steverino015]

Lynn Greer III interview, discusses the
team, the coaches the other players
coming to Dayton. During the interview,
he said he was pitching UD to Efton Reid
at that time he had not decided...

played 1 prep season at IMG Academy
after high school to keep working on
his game...

the freshman have not had 1 minute
of practice yet... but I am still
a half full glass, think we are in good hands
...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK8Se0hJE3U&t=216s

[bcross]

Originally Posted by steverino015 good writeup from June 14 on one of the question marks "at this point", Malachi Smith think we are in good hands.....https://bvmsports.com/2021/06/14/all...dayton-career/

Right and I am optimistic that he and the other freshman will have great careers here as well. The question is at what level they will be able to contribute as freshman.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by steverino015 good writeup from June 14 on one of the question marks "at this point", Malachi Smith think we are in good hands.....https://bvmsports.com/2021/06/14/all...dayton-career/

His resume and rep have the feel of the second coming of Kyle Davis.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by bcross Right and I am optimistic that he and the other freshman will have great careers here as well. The question is at what level they will be able to contribute as freshman.

I am optimistic, you will like how
that question is answered...)

[ud2]

Originally Posted by steverino015 we have a player Camara, who is right now projected as a late 1st round/mid 2nd round.. He can be a difference maker....

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-dr...year-mock=2022

#44 to Golden State

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by ud2 https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-dr...year-mock=2022 #44 to Golden State

good research finding this...

and that will be yet another
UD Flyer in the NBA in that
scenario...

really really good get by CAG

[jack72]

"Lunardi: If you made a list of programs outside the Power 5/Big East that have the most going for them, I'm not sure second place behind Gonzaga wouldn't be the Dayton Flyers. There's a reason the NCAA continues to hold its First Four event in Dayton. It is a genuine major program in every respect: facilities, access to players, fan base, history and (with one giant asterisk) recent success.

Imagine if the 2020 NCAA tournament had been played. Imagine the No. 1 seed Flyers winning it all with Obi Toppin & Co. Dayton was more than good enough, but with an infrastructure and institutional commitment to sustain that success at a level greater than, say, Loyola Chicago or Butler (each of whom lost their version of Mark Few).

The Flyers get players and, with alum Anthony Grant in charge after flaming out in the SEC, have a likely long-term jockey. Even without an Obi Toppin, I'd buy low on Dayton."

[lhsgolf19]

Red & Blue Game coming Mid-October per Neil Sullivan, also expects a Full Arena

Awesome!

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Red & Blue Game coming Mid-October per Neil Sullivan, also expects a Full Arena Awesome!

Hopefully we will get mucho first hand reports on our studs. I'm dying to hear something about our players in action.

[Ready Action]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Red & Blue Game coming Mid-October per Neil Sullivan, also expects a Full Arena Awesome!

Indeed:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...OA3JGA3FUMXNY/

[maddog07]

“ this building wasn’t built to be empty.”

Neil Sullivan.


Wow, who knew!!!!!!
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[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

David Jablonski
Brian Roberts watched Dayton practice today. As far as I know, this is the first report of any kind about how the 2021-22 Flyers look this summer.
https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...129138688?s=20
(Have to read the tweet to see Brian's comments, I couldn't copy them)

Speaking of Brian Roberts, another tweet with link to a story with a video of Brian talking about the 29-2 season
https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...621701122?s=20

[TA111]

I don’t know much about these guys, but they do a pretty in depth analysis of each team and have the Flyers projected as the most talented team in the league with the most upside.
https://staringatthefloorboards.word...eason-preview/

[Runnin' Rebel]

Weaver - Smith - Elvis - Brea - Greer
Amzil - Blakney - Washington
Zimi - Holmes - Camara
Sissoko - Amaefule

Who from this group will step up on the defense side of the ball?

As of now, I can only see Weaver and Camara as the only possibilities - maybe guys like Holmes and Blakney will step up?

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel Who from this group will step up on the defense side of the ball?

Holmes. Early and often.

[Medford]

Biggest question for me, is who is going to step up and be the reliable outside threat that this offense needs. 2 seasons ago, UD had 3 players (Crutch, Watson and Obi) all around the 40% mark on a fairly solid number of attempts. PG, Wing, Post really allowed that offense to spread out the defense and prevent teams from packing things inside.


Last year, Ibi remained fairly consistent (though he ran hot/cold thru the course of multiple games IIRC), while Crutch dipped a bit and they lost the contributions that Rodney was able to add on the perimeter for much of the year. Of course, Obi wasn't there either.


amzil, Weaver, Blankney, Zimi and Brea all shot a semi-decent % from 3 land, but all came on relatively low volume attempts. Who is going to step up and become a high volume, high % 3 point threat that the opposing team has to keep a body on to open up lanes for drives (and dishes)?

[Fudd]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo Holmes. Early and often.

In watching video of complete games with Holmes, I was impressed with his defense. He is not a super-athletic leaper, but he has great timing and instincts on defense.

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by Medford Biggest question for me, is who is going to step up and be the reliable outside threat that this offense needs. amzil, Weaver, Blankney, Zimi and Brea all shot a semi-decent % from 3 land, but all came on relatively low volume attempts. Who is going to step up and become a high volume, high % 3 point threat that the opposing team has to keep a body on to open up lanes for drives (and dishes)?

You are right that the sample size was too small for all of the players to make a good statistical conclusion. I think we can only go by what we saw last year which makes it much more subjective.

My take based on shooting form is Amzil and Brea were more pure shooters. Blakney seemed middle of the road. Weaver and Zimi were the least solid in their mechanics. I’m sure others will have a different opinion.

[Medford]

Completely forgot about Kobe Elvis transferring in. Sample size on 3 pointers is small, but the % of makes was very good (42%). Throw in Greer, Washington, Holmes and Smith (though I don't like to count on true frosh to be a reliable threat of perimeter scoring) and UD has a lot of different potential players, of varying size that can help keep the lanes open.


If someone had disappeared under a rock in 2020 (and frankly, who wouldn't have liked to have done that?) this roster is completely unrecognizable. I have to imagine the spread between their floor and their ceiling is amongst the largest in college basketball.

[BeckysTXA]

Originally Posted by Medford I have to imagine the spread between their floor and their ceiling is amongst the largest in college basketball.

I think this is a very profound statement and I agree 100%.

[Bucketnight]

Originally Posted by Medford If someone had disappeared under a rock in 2020 (and frankly, who wouldn't have liked to have done that?) this roster is completely unrecognizable. I have to imagine the spread between their floor and their ceiling is amongst the largest in college basketball.

Definitely agree about the ceiling; not as much on the floor. With Amzil, Zimi and Camara, I think the floor is a little easier to project. I can't see us being below .500 as a floor even if the pieces don't quite fit this year or if they take a while to gel.

The ceiling is crazy to project. I always base my confidence in the "if" quantity. The more ifs the lower my projection. This team flies in the face of that. There are a ton of ifs... especially in the backcourt. It just seems like the talent level of those ifs is higher than ever and that the probability that all of them not working out is low. Which is a pragmatic way of saying that even if multiple ifs don't work, I still think enough will that we are going to be good. It is more a matter of are we good with several disappointments or are we really good with a ton of depth.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by Bucketnight Definitely agree about the ceiling; not as much on the floor. With Amzil, Zimi and Camara, I think the floor is a little easier to project.

This might not be as profound but it is on point. Weaver and Elvis also played 20 mins/game (like Zimi did). Amzil and Camara averaged 30.

We are extremely young on paper, 11/13 classified as freshman if I count correctly, but this is misleading when you look at raw minutes returning.

30+30+20+20+20 = 120/200 minutes returning (when you include incoming transfers)

Makes you think.

[steverino015]

makes me think it will be very enjoyable to
see how they grow as a team, and each player...)

[Buckleyma]

Originally Posted by Bucketnight Definitely agree about the ceiling; not as much on the floor. With Amzil, Zimi and Camara, I think the floor is a little easier to project. I can't see us being below .500 as a floor even if the pieces don't quite fit this year or if they take a while to gel. The ceiling is crazy to project. I always base my confidence in the "if" quantity. The more ifs the lower my projection. This team flies in the face of that. There are a ton of ifs... especially in the backcourt. It just seems like the talent level of those ifs is higher than ever and that the probability that all of them not working out is low. Which is a pragmatic way of saying that even if multiple ifs don't work, I still think enough will that we are going to be good. It is more a matter of are we good with several disappointments or are we really good with a ton of depth.

Bucketnight: Did you just say, “multiple ifs”. I love ya’ man! But you go back and read your own post; you have to admit that this post is one of the most zen-like, analytical and almost spiritual blog post of all-time. We, as a group, are clearly showing signs of significant withdrawal pains from lack of college hoops.

I think, I will go back and re-watch the NCAA final four games that I have recorded.

Keep a tight grip on that line; you’re losing it, man!
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[Runnin' Rebel]

https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...mpaign_2629706

[steverino015]

good article right there...

[Bucketnight]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma Bucketnight: Did you just say, “multiple ifs”. I love ya’ man! But you go back and read your own post; you have to admit that this post is one of the most zen-like, analytical and almost spiritual blog post of all-time. We, as a group, are clearly showing signs of significant withdrawal pains from lack of college hoops. I think, I will go back and re-watch the NCAA final four games that I have recorded. Keep a tight grip on that line; you’re losing it, man! Posted via Mobile Device

Lol... it was actually the result of the bartender at the Tampa Embassy Suites misunderstanding my order and making my 4 Gin & Tonics doubles.

I was feeling pretty philosophical.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Bucketnight Lol... it was actually the result of the bartender at the Tampa Embassy Suites misunderstanding my order and making my 4 Gin & Tonics doubles. I was feeling pretty philosophical.

Whatever. I’ll have what you’re drinking!
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[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Tweet from Mark Adams (from the Arena today)
Looks like they enjoy being together.
https://twitter.com/enthusiadams/sta...077120013?s=21
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[Bill McPeek]

I really miss "The Hometown Coach" hosting Flyer Feedback. I had the pleasure of meeting him a number of years ago at the Arena. I truly believe that he has a deep affection for our Flyers.

	Flyer Feedback FLYER FEEDBACK The greatest college basketball radio show in the country. Now in its 12th season, hosted by George L'Heureux LIVE at Flanagan's Pub on Stewart Street across from the UD campus. Join George and UDPride for the best Flyer talk anywhere! Call the show at 457-1290 or email the show at flyerfeedback@udpride.com. Got AOL Messenger? Send your comments to "UDPRIDE".

[Swampy Meadows]

He sure does, Bill. When I interviewed him two years ago Mark told me that unfortunately his busy ESPN schedule keeps him on the road and unable to make it to the Arena to see the Flyers in person.
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[ud2]

Updated July 13...

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...l/bracketology

Richmond 9
SBU 6
VTU 9
Alabama 4
Belmont 12

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[ud2]

The Bart Torvik 2022 T-Rank College Basketball A-10 Projections

Lots of weakness at the bottom of the league.

https://barttorvik.com/conf.php?conf=A10&year=2022

A10 Conference Info 2022

16 St. Bonaventure
43 Richmond
51 VCU
76 Saint Louis
83 Dayton
93 Rhode Island
122 Massachusetts
140 Davidson
172 Duquesne
174 George Mason
234 Saint Joseph's
240 La Salle
259 George Washington
268 Fordham

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	George Washington GEORGE WASHINGTON Students choose from two distinct GW campuses — Foggy Bottom and Mount Vernon. Both are located in historic and prestigious Northwest Washington, DC residential neighborhoods. With 9,700 undergraduate students, GW was founded almost 200 years ago and is named after the first President of the United States. GW stands as one of the nation's premier academic institutions with dozens of famous political, social, science, liberal arts, medical and professional graduates to its credit. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Colonials.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[ud2]

More t-rankings

https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php

47. VTU
72. Mississippi
102. SMU
236. Illinois Chicago
296. Southern
314. Northern Illinois

[ud2]

Originally Posted by TA111 I don’t know much about these guys, but they do a pretty in depth analysis of each team and have the Flyers projected as the most talented team in the league with the most upside. https://staringatthefloorboards.word...eason-preview/

This would be nice, #3 in the A10.

[Alberto Strasse]

I look forward to the training sessions UD will have on use of the mobile phone for tickets this year. Hopefully it will be done virtually.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by TA111 I don’t know much about these guys, but they do a pretty in depth analysis of each team and have the Flyers projected as the most talented team in the league with the most upside. https://staringatthefloorboards.word...eason-preview/

That is a fun read, but I'm uncomfortable with those gushing adjectives throughout the analysis. Our roster heads are big enough without having proved anything. We better hit the ground running because a lot of our seasonal hopes are to be tested early in the slate.

I would hope Maddog would be kind after reading the article.

[Alberto Strasse]

by requiring masks at basketball games? I hope not. I do believe UD leadership is bright enough to follow the science.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

For tonight's TBT final masks are encouraged for everyone, but not required. Campus, as of yesterday. is requiring masks in classes and communal spaces.

I am happy to wear a mask (and am fully vaccinated) if it means I can attend Dayton BB games.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan I am happy to wear a mask (and am fully vaccinated) if it means I can attend Dayton BB games.

I got the shot so I wouldn't have to wear the mask. If masks are required, count me out.

[MikeFlyer]

Originally Posted by rollo I got the shot so I wouldn't have to wear the mask. If masks are required, count me out.

I don't know, did Galileo have to deal with a pandemic?

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by rollo I got the shot so I wouldn't have to wear the mask. If masks are required, count me out.

How dare you follow the science!

[ud2]

Originally Posted by rollo I got the shot so I wouldn't have to wear the mask. If masks are required, count me out.

How are you going to prove that you got the shot? How do I know that your vax card is not a fake? The UD Arena ticket taker can't be expected to call the local Kroger or Walgreens to verify that you really did get the shot before letting you in.

[John C.]

If you stay away from games because you have to wear a mask, you are NOT a fan. Deal with it for 3 hours. I don't care what the science says either way.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by John C. If you stay away from games because you have to wear a mask, you are NOT a fan. Deal with it for 3 hours. I don't care what the science says either way.

Oh STFU. If you don't write the U a 5 figure check every year YOU'RE not a fan.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by John C. If you stay away from games because you have to wear a mask, you are NOT a fan. Deal with it for 3 hours. I don't care what the science says either way.

This is a bad take.

[John C.]

Rollo, I think we have different definitions of what being a fan is. You don't have to have money to be a fan. Just be involved.

I am sorry, I just can't believe that after a year of not being able to see UD play, people would stay home because of a mask. This has nothing to do with my beliefs about masking or not. This is about the experience at UD Arena and what we add as fans.

My fear is that this next round of covid could almost be as bad as the last and they start shutting things down. I know things are better in Ohio right now than they are in Arizona but we have increased our infection rate by 5 times over the last month. UD cannot afford to not have fans in attendance.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by ud2 How are you going to prove that you got the shot? How do I know that your vax card is not a fake? The UD Arena ticket taker can't be expected to call the local Kroger or Walgreens to verify that you really did get the shot before letting you in.

So because of the the three people who will bring a fake vax card, we will not believe anyone.

[DGO67]

If a woman should be free to have an abortion because it's her body, shouldn't a person be free to refuse a vaccination because it's their body?
But of greater concern (for everyone) should be the seemingly prudent request to limit one's freedom in the public interest. This precedent sets us up
for limitations on our freedoms ad infinitum...all in the public interest.
Marxism, here we come!

[lhsgolf19]

Guys, take it somewhere else... Head to the Off-Topic Board

Jeez

[CJ#4]

When you hear comments about "knowing what the science says," please remember that science is not a set of static facts, especially in the case of a novel virus that we started studying less than two years ago and that keeps changing. I actually kind of like the phrase "follow the science," because it gives you the imagery that our knowledge is a moving, evolving thing. Science is messy. It's about hypothesizing and experimenting and always trying to learn more ... even when that means proving that, oops, what I said last week was wrong. Too many people want immediate answers where they don't exist, and want to call others out for not having them. I hope we let our scientists do what they do -- chase facts, make mistakes, advance our knowledge -- in our effort to solve this problem.

[flyerfanatic86]

Assuming Delta continues to spread into the season, UD should either require proof of vax at the door or masks for all.

[Alberto Strasse]

Please get sources of information other than liberal Demoncrat. Cases are way up and deaths are way down. Mandated masks will reduce attendance at Flyer games and reduce noise levels. Follow the science and disregard the politics of Demoncrat control of American lives.

[flyerfanatic86]

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse Please get sources of information other than liberal Demoncrat. Cases are way up and deaths are way down. Mandated masks will reduce attendance at Flyer games and reduce noise levels. Follow the science and disregard the politics of Demoncrat control of American lives.

Deaths are way down because they lag cases. Hospitalizations are currently rising in many places with increase spread and deaths will likely follow. There are also long term complications many get who survive - long Covid is no joke, I know somebody struggling with it and his ordeal is terrifying.

Look, if it turns out that Delta is "just the flu" that is highly transmissible, then I would be ecstatic to change my tune. Unfortunately, I don't think that's the case. I talked to my Dr. who is a specialist in this field yesterday and his take was very different. He said Delta is a "beast" and that prohibiting mask mandates is "just prolonging the pandemic and going to hurt a lot of people." His words as somebody who has spent a ton of time reading the studies and talking with other peer experts, not mine.

This isn't about "liberal Democrats." Look at Arkansas, where the GOP governor just said "oops" on prohibiting mask mandates in schools. Stop getting your information from social media and Google (and God forbid a college basketball message board) and actually talk to your doctors. I don't understand why anybody would trust their doctor to prescribe medicine when they're sick but not trust them on what actions to take during a global pandemic.

[Runnin' Rebel]

FWIW... the school came out today and said vaccinated students will also have to wear masks indoors now.

Many people are still getting the virus, regardless if they have been vaccinated.

Every patient at my daughters work has been vaccinated, yet last week 3 of them caught Covid-19 and died.

NJ just came out and said 49 fully vaccinated residents have died from Covid-19.

So presenting a card at the door is useless... as fully vaccinated people are getting the virus and passing it on as well.

I would also suggest doing some heavy reading on the vaccine and myocarditis, especially if there is a young teen male thinking about getting the vaccine (particularly the mRNA one)... making young male college athletes get the vaccine is really bothersome to me.

[lhsgolf19]

Oh my god guys no one cares… what’s the thread title called

Please go at it some where else lol
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[Swampy Meadows]

Non-Con schedule has been released:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DaytonMBB...619266/photo/1

[John C.]

Here is the article that Runnin' Rebel referenced.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...ents-have-died

All were over 50 and many had serious pre existing conditions. The deaths are contrary to most of the data that has been previously published. We were always told a certain percentage would get it but most of the reports that I have seen is that 99% of those hospitalized were non vaccinated.

Lots of facts out there. They can't all be correct. Frustrating, no matter what.

[Runnin' Rebel]

2021-22 Non-Conference Schedule

The University of Dayton announced its men's basketball non-conference schedule today, featuring eight home games, three games at the ESPN Events Invitational, and two difficult road games.



The Flyers’ home slate includes Saturday night games on three of the first four weekends of the season.



Not counting the potential opponents in the ESPN Events Invitational (which has an impressive field of Alabama, Belmont, Dayton, Drake, Kansas, Iona, Miami and North Texas), six of the 10 non-conference opponents have at least three starters back from last season. That includes UD’s first three opponents of the year. Northern Illinois and Virginia Tech return all five starters.



Dayton opens the regular season at home against Illinois Chicago on Tuesday, Nov. 9. The Flyers will play three more home games – UMass-Lowell on Saturday, Nov. 13, Lipscomb on Wednesday, Nov. 17 and Austin Peay on Saturday, Nov. 20 – before playing in the ESPN Events Invitational in the HP Field House at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex near Orlando.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel Many people are still getting the virus, regardless if they have been vaccinated. Every patient at my daughters work has been vaccinated, yet last week 3 of them caught Covid-19 and died. NJ just came out and said 49 fully vaccinated residents have died from Covid-19. .

The problem with anecdotal evidence is it is no better than the anecdotal evidence that runs rampant on the internet that someone’s cousin’s brother got ill from the vaccination. And your NJ reference has no denominator nor time window nor accounts for any age or comorbidities. It’s a number not steeped in any context. Meaningless. There are facts readily available as to the death rate of those who are vaccinated who have either died or gotten seriously ill from Covid. And those facts clearly point out that the vaccinated are statistically very safe from Covid. Not zero, but life never has zero risk.

[Swampy Meadows]

2021-2022 roster video:

https://twitter.com/DaytonMBB/status...72357019754504

Interesting that they list last years frosh as freshman.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

I wonder what other schools are doing. I think I like it.

[lhsgolf19]

For people that can't watch it:

0... Weaver (was 11)
2... Camara
3... Greer
4... Brea
10... Washington
11... Smith
12... Nwokeji
14... Sissoko
15... Holmes
21... Amaefule
22... Amzil (was 33)
23... Blakney
24... Elvis
51... Swerlein
53... Wilson

[Boroflyerfan01]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows 2021-2022 roster video: https://twitter.com/DaytonMBB/status...72357019754504 Interesting that they list last years frosh as freshman.

With all of last years players officially taking the free year we now have 11 freshmen on sophomore and one junior. Very excited for the future with this bunch!
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[Runnin' Rebel]

https://phenomhoopreport.com/phenom-...review-dayton/

[CJ#4]

I really like Mali Smith taking #11. It's a family thing.

[Buckleyma]

Yesterday, I noticed on DaytonFlyers.com that the roster page had been altered. The web master had deleted all of the non-active players. Today, I see that the web master has inserted all of the new players. Upon first view, I see that they have listed Daron Holmes at 6’10”, not 6’8”. I found that most interesting. Also, there is no weight for Kobe Elvis.

Personally, I know that I will have to make an effort to remember the spelling of our two guys with the same sounding name. One is Koby and the other is Kobe.
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[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma Yesterday, I noticed on DaytonFlyers.com that the roster page had been altered. The web master had deleted all of the non-active players. Today, I see that the web master has inserted all of the new players. Upon first view, I see that they have listed Daron Holmes at 6’10”, not 6’8”. I found that most interesting. Also, there is no weight for Kobe Elvis. Personally, I know that I will have to make an effort to remember the spelling of our two guys with the same sounding name. One is Koby and the other is Kobe. Posted via Mobile Device

Since you brought up spelling, you might want to check on the correct spelling of DaRon Holmes.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

I saw DaRon at the TBT games. He certainly appears to be 6’10”.
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[CJ#4]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma Yesterday, I noticed on DaytonFlyers.com that the roster page had been altered. The web master had deleted all of the non-active players. Today, I see that the web master has inserted all of the new players. Upon first view, I see that they have listed Daron Holmes at 6’10”, not 6’8”. I found that most interesting. Also, there is no weight for Kobe Elvis. Personally, I know that I will have to make an effort to remember the spelling of our two guys with the same sounding name. One is Koby and the other is Kobe. Posted via Mobile Device

DaRon goes from the 6-8 / 185 they listed him at in the November signing announcement to 6-10 / 220. Just a wee bit of a difference. Greer goes from 6-3 to 6-2. Mali goes from 165 pounds to 170. You always wonder which high schools and colleges are telling the truth about their guys' size.

[NJFlyr71]

You always wonder which high schools and colleges are telling the truth about their guys' size.

It's that old "ours are bigger than yours" thingy ....

Right Rollo?

[Buckleyma]

Well I noticed in one of the videos that I saw earlier that Holmes looked taller than Obi Toppin. I was explaining this away in my mind by thinking that Obi was hunched up and not standing up straight. So, maybe it is true that Homes is 6’10” instead of the advertised 6’8”.
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[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma Well I noticed in one of the videos that I saw earlier that Holmes looked taller than Obi Toppin. I was explaining this away in my mind by thinking that Obi was hunched up and not standing up straight. So, maybe it is true that Homes is 6’10” instead of the advertised 6’8”. Posted via Mobile Device

He's taller than Obi but he's not ripped like Obi. A little more time in a professional weight training program and he will be though.

[hawkoooo]

If we start this lineup our average height would be 6'8"

Weaver 6'6
Brea 6'6
Amzil 6'10
Camara 6'8
Holmes 6'10

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo If we start this lineup our average height would be 6'8" Weaver 6'6 Brea 6'6 Amzil 6'10 Camara 6'8 Holmes 6'10

That’s a forest of tall trees!

[San Diego Flyer]

First big off the bench-- Richard Ahmafool at 6'9" and 230lbs.

[lhsgolf19]

Just a heads up, they updated some of the Weights on the Roster on DaytonFlyers.com

One Huge Change... Koby jumped from 174 to 195.... Awesome job by Him & the S&C Staff!

[ud2]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...l/bracketology

Updated today, no big changes from last time

[ud2]

Updated Thursday, this is a more optimistic bracket for the A10, Dayton in the first four out, nice

https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba.../bracketology/

Dayton/VCU in the first four out
SLU 11
Richmond 11
SBU 6
VT 8

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by ud2 Updated Thursday, this is a more optimistic bracket for the A10, Dayton in the first four out, nice https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba.../bracketology/ Dayton/VCU in the first four out SLU 11 Richmond 11 SBU 6 VT 8

Why VT?

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Why VT?

We just signed a home and home deal with them last month?, first game at UD this year on Dec 12.

[steverino015]

it all depends on how quickly the team can gel
and work together.... with the talent coming in,
the ceiling is quite high.

all of the team is intriguing, I am excited to
hear how Mali and Lynn III are doing through
the practices and as the season progresses..

[Buckleyma]

I have been thinking about the last two years. I remember the ease that Obi had in catching the pass and his success once he had the ball. Then I think about Jordy who was always fighting mightily to get position. Then his struggles to catch the pass. And then his ineffective attempts to do something with the ball once he did get possession. These memories are like day and night in their differences.
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[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma I have been thinking about the last two years. I remember the ease that Obi had in catching the pass and his success once he had the ball. Then I think about Jordy who was always fighting mightily to get position. Then his struggles to catch the pass. And then his ineffective attempts to do something with the ball once he did get possession. These memories are like day and night in their differences. Posted via Mobile Device

Next to his obvious athletic ability, I always thought that Obi had some of best hands I have ever seen in a big man. Jordy indeed struggled with that. In watching some of his video, it seemed like Jordy had a tendency to start his move prior to catching the ball. Obi, on the other hand, would catch anything near him or the rim!

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma I have been thinking about the last two years. I remember the ease that Obi had in catching the pass and his success once he had the ball. Then I think about Jordy who was always fighting mightily to get position. Then his struggles to catch the pass. And then his ineffective attempts to do something with the ball once he did get possession. These memories are like day and night in their differences. Posted via Mobile Device

Obi was a forward really, Jordy was a big tank. His ball handling was atrocious except for that one moment where he laid on ground dribbling like a globetrotter. But if you ever find yourself missing Jordy, Sissoko had the same issues.

I really do have faith that Sissoko will improve in that area though as he obviously lacked the experience Jordy had so there's more room for improvement. He also seems more athletic so maybe a hybrid between Obi and Jordy.

[Buckleyma]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Obi was a forward really, Jordy was a big tank. His ball handling was atrocious except for that one moment where he laid on ground dribbling like a globetrotter. But if you ever find yourself missing Jordy, Sissoko had the same issues. I really do have faith that Sissoko will improve in that area though as he obviously lacked the experience Jordy had so there's more room for improvement. He also seems more athletic so maybe a hybrid between Obi and Jordy.

Smitty10: I am interestingly waiting on CJ#4 to post numerous 13 in his series on Sissoko.
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[CJ#4]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma Smitty10: I am interestingly waiting on CJ#4 to post numerous 13 in his series on Sissoko. Posted via Mobile Device

My bad -- the past week has just been crazy-busy. Work, travel, family, etc. There will be a Sissoko post, but it might be a couple days still.

[Buckleyma]

Originally Posted by CJ#4 My bad -- the past week has just been crazy-busy. Work, travel, family, etc. There will be a Sissoko post, but it might be a couple days still.

No worries. No pressure. You’ve done a marvelous effort on these bios and you’ve only got one more scholarship player left to develop a bio. That is, unless you are going to do a bio on our walk-on who actually got more playing time early in the season last year than some of our scholarship players.
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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma ...That is, unless you are going to do a bio on our walk-on who actually got more playing time early in the season last year than some of our scholarship players. Posted via Mobile Device

Not to take this thread off the rails, but that is one of the things I love about CAG. He’ll play the guys who’ve gotten with the program over guys with more ability who have yet to buy-in. Sure, it might cost you a few games in the short run. But in the long run, that’s how you build A Program,
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[Buckleyma]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 Not to take this thread off the rails, but that is one of the things I love about CAG. He’ll play the guys who’ve gotten with the program over guys with more ability who have yet to buy-in. Sure, it might cost you a few games in the short run. But in the long run, that’s how you build A Program, Posted via Mobile Device

Christian Wilson, there is your “shout out” straight from T-Bone 84.
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[Fudd]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Obi was a forward really, Jordy was a big tank. His ball handling was atrocious except for that one moment where he laid on ground dribbling like a globetrotter. But if you ever find yourself missing Jordy, Sissoko had the same issues. I really do have faith that Sissoko will improve in that area though as he obviously lacked the experience Jordy had so there's more room for improvement. He also seems more athletic so maybe a hybrid between Obi and Jordy.

I remember Jordy having a great run in the last ten games or so of his career. He was getting it done inside, but the team was struggling.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Fudd I remember Jordy having a great run in the last ten games or so of his career. He was getting it done inside, but the team was struggling.

Yes, he was still a valuable player that seemed to give us better play as his career wound down. However...

1. Nothing he did in those last 10 games reminded anyone of Obi which is kind of what I responding to.

2. Let's hope it doesn't take Sissoko until he has 10 games left in his career before he gets rid of his fumbe-itis.

[Mich Flyer]

Athlon Basketball Magazine

Saw the Athlon basketball magazine today out in Meijers. They are predicting Dayton to finish 6th in the A-10 - too many unknowns.

[Flyer68]

Projected 6th in A-10 because of "too many unknowns."

Okay so there is no target on our back, which I think is great for a young team. But I know that, no matter what some magazine predicts, none of the coaches of teams supposedly projected ahead of us will take us for granted.

AG will have our young players juiced up (well, maybe not the right word!!!) and ready to play and looking to upset the supposed 5 above.

[Smitty10]

Originally Posted by Flyer68 Projected 6th in A-10 because of "too many unknowns." Okay so there is no target on our back, which I think is great for a young team. But I know that, no matter what some magazine predicts, none of the coaches of teams supposedly projected ahead of us will take us for granted. AG will have our young players juiced up (well, maybe not the right word!!!) and ready to play and looking to upset the supposed 5 above.

Yeah, the Flyers have a great recruiting class and great potential from the sophomores on top of that. But there are a lot of unknowns. More so for experts who don't follow the Flyers like we do.

I would bet a huge amount that we finish above 6th. We just have too many players with potential that tells me the only excuse we have is youth and I expect we'll get the most out of what we have because the right combination is there somewhere and CAG will find it through trial and error.

I expect that we will probably be one of the 3 best teams by the time the conference tournament rolls around. We might not be top 3 in standings but we will be playing like such when toward the end of the season.

No matter how it plays out, this is going to be a season like no other and will be fun to watch the players progress.

[Flyer68]

Smitty, I could not agree with you more.

There is a difference between a player, who is the one and done player, looking out for his own self interest and pro prospects (Power 5 conference players) and the player who loves the game, may have the raw talent eventually for the next level but wants to win, contribute to a winning team and be on a winning team. Maybe Steff Curry is the best example of that.

I think that, through CAG, Dayton gets the second type of player. That's why showing up the magazines and winning conference titles etc., is more fun that having a losing record but the star has a great year and becomes a high draft choice. The star with the big contract is never going to remember Dayton or credit Dayton for his standing but the kids, who contributed on winning teams showing up the "experts," and helped each other, whether they play pro in US or overseas, do remember their contributions, team success and UD.