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Old 12-15-2020, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by maddog07 View Post
How is it that no one in the media, or anyone that matter can seem to comment on how the kids we don’t see in games look in practice?

Would be great to know if Frazier, Brea , Weaver or Zimi can actually help this team yet, or look like they will in the next years or if we misfired on recruiting them.
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Practices are often not open. Very few people get access.

Under COVID, practices are even more restricted. And the freshman had much less time in practice and the weight room than if COVID was not happening.

Too early to tell if they can be contributors. I can name a number of players who took extra time to adjust to the college game.
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Practices are often not open. Very few people get access.

Under COVID, practices are even more restricted. And the freshman had much less time in practice and the weight room than if COVID was not happening.

Too early to tell if they can be contributors. I can name a number of players who took extra time to adjust to the college game.
Devin Oliver and Paul Williams were both late-bloomers.
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Good insight from Grant about Brea and Frazier. Both have been bit by the injury bug. No projection on when either of them will see the floor.
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Devin Oliver and Paul Williams were both late-bloomers.
Paul Williams arguably never bloomed, but DMO improved every year. Trey Landers would be another good example.
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One Flyer who doesn't get much press yet, but who I believe could be the sleeper in the whole group is RJ Blakney. (not implying that Ibi is a sleeper).

This young man has been a star and a winner everywhere he has competed. Read his bio, and look at his size. He has been a magnet for Championships and individual awards every where he competed.

And his mom was a dynamite player at Maryland and in professionally in Europe. Then there's that.
RJ's mom asked for a repeat of the above from a month ago.
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I think it's tough to say with what we have in the freshman.

Summer conditioning and practices lost really set them back. Koby and Luke needed to put on some weight
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Originally Posted by DallasFlyer View Post
Paul Williams arguably never bloomed, but DMO improved every year. Trey Landers would be another good example.
IIRC, Paul came in with impressive credentials but never really seemed to build on them. DMO and Trey, however, took development to another level.
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Devin Oliver and Paul Williams were both late-bloomers.
Hold up with the Paul Williams blooming.
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Old 12-16-2020, 02:15 PM
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Kavanaugh was much improved as an upper classman.
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I thought Matt was an asset after he ate humble pie as a result of his off-the-court behavior.

I think Jordy should expect to be on the same learning curve, or maybe better. Matt was a problem for the opponents on our offensive boards.
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I thought Matt was an asset after he ate humble pie as a result of his off-the-court behavior.
Personally I thought Matt was a shell of himself when he returned.
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Per Goodman the NCAA just passed the transfer waiver rule. Weaver is now eligible to play. Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) Tweeted:
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Personally I thought Matt was a shell of himself when he returned.
I thought he shed the bad shell and kept the good one.
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The University of Dayton men’s basketball team reached the postseason in all four years that Matt Kavanaugh was in a Flyer uniform, including an Elite Eight run in 2014. The 6’10” big man from Centerville, OH was a productive force in the middle for UD. With Kavanaugh in the line-up his senior season, the Flyers were 25-7. He missed time due to a concussion as UD lost three of the four games he did not play in.

Kavanaugh finished his UD career with 558 points as he shot 52.3% from the field (213-of-407). He hauled in 397 rebounds, including 195 offensive rebounds. As a junior, Kavanaugh pulled down 97 offensive rebounds, which ranks as the fifth best mark for a single season. Kavanaugh’s UD teams had a combined record of 93-40 and won at least 20 games each season he was in a Flyer uniform.
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Personally I thought Matt was a shell of himself when he returned.
Does anyone know what Matt is doing now???
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
I think it's tough to say with what we have in the freshman.

Summer conditioning and practices lost really set them back. Koby and Luke needed to put on some weight
Agree. After four games it's really hard to tell. Check back in mid Feb.
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2011-12 Games: 33 MPG: 23.9 FG%: .546 FT%: .807 ORB: 2.9 DRB: 3.0 RPG: 5.9 PPG: 9.0

2013-14 Games: 33 MPG: 16.9 FG%: .526 FT%: .677 ORB: 1.4 DRB: 2.1 RPG: 3.5 PPG: 5.7
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I think the main thing with Kav though is his first two years he had a lot of games that left me wondering if he was the Thiago Cordero/James Cripe path. He looked completely lost at times

Junior year he steps in, starts and is a pretty solid big
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I think the main thing with Kav though is his first two years he had a lot of games that left me wondering if he was the Thiago Cordero/James Cripe path. He looked completely lost at times

Junior year he steps in, starts and is a pretty solid big
Agreed, he was very good junior year.

However, I thought he was very mediocre his senior year which is why I say he was a shell of himself after he came back.
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Agreed, he was very good junior year.

However, I thought he was very mediocre his senior year which is why I say he was a shell of himself after he came back.
He also made a good showing in our Elite Eight run. He was active averaging 7 points, 13-21 shooting, and 15 rebounds to go with 6 steals in the 4 games. Had to go up against Nastic and Dwight Powell vs Stanford. He was a warrior in Memphis even though there was
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He also made a good showing in our Elite Eight run. He was active averaging 7 points, 13-21 shooting, and 15 rebounds to go with 6 steals in the 4 games. Had to go up against Nastic and Dwight Powell vs Stanford. He was a warrior in Memphis even though there was
superior talent to deal with. All of which was a step up from his regular season.
I still remember seeing Kavs on Beale Street after the loss to Florida. Typical Kav - at the center of the social scene. FWIW, the Flyer Faithful owned Beale Street that night. It looked like the Ghetto, Memphis version.
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I still remember seeing Kavs on Beale Street after the loss to Florida. Typical Kav - at the center of the social scene. FWIW, the Flyer Faithful owned Beale Street that night. It looked like the Ghetto, Memphis version.
The manager in the bar we occupied was blown away by the sheer numbers of Dayton fans.
He said Memphis needs to play a H & H in the regular season. Of course we all know how that usually ends. Not.
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3 wins in a row still not enough to move the needle...Davidson now in the field though along with Richmond and SLU

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3 wins in a row still not enough to move the needle...Davidson now in the field though along with Richmond and SLU

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Only because they are 1-0 in the conference, and technically the Conference Leader/Champion lol
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Only because they are 1-0 in the conference, and technically the Conference Leader/Champion lol
Great point, as Davidson is not in any at-large discussion.
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3 wins in a row still not enough to move the needle...Davidson now in the field though along with Richmond and SLU

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http://www.bracketmatrix.com updated...we are tied for the 12th team out
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I think any team still playing basketball at the end of the season will make the tourney.
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like most years it's about taking care of business in conference to get a bid
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like most years it's about taking care of business in conference to get a bid

In most years teams in mid-major conferences have to take care of business in the non-conference AND in conference. We always have some "quality" non-conference wins that help us tremendously. Without those it would be tough to get in.
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Updated today...not noticing much change vs. last week.
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VCU pauses basketball activies...

...due to Covid. Wasn't sure where else to post this. The herky jerky season continues.

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Does anyone have any word on Elijah or RJ, or what their injuries even are?
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Worsened from the 12th to 15th team out.

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After watching today’s game, it convinces even more that the short leash approach to integrating Freshman into the rotation is a mistake. I saw several times
today where Zimi, Koby and Mo to a lessor degree would have likely been buried at the end of the bench for the rest of the game if AG had other options.

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That is the tough part for Coach Grant with a young team. Do you sacrifice a few losses to develop your young players? Playing our best five 38-40 minutes maximizes our wins, but it also hurts the next three years. What would you do, especially if your job depended on it?
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That is the tough part for Coach Grant with a young team. Do you sacrifice a few losses to develop your young players? Playing our best five 38-40 minutes maximizes our wins, but it also hurts the next three years. What would you do, especially if your job depended on it?
That’s always a question, however, once Weaver and Blakney are back I believe we will see Ibi and Jalen playing a few less minutes. The freshmen are going to get some minutes by virtue of necessity.
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That’s always a question, however, once Weaver and Blakney are back I believe we will see Ibi and Jalen playing a few less minutes. The freshmen are going to get some minutes by virtue of necessity.
I think the previous coach did a very good job of working the youngins in early in the season and they were able contribute more down the stretch. Except for Trey.
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That’s always a question, however, once Weaver and Blakney are back I believe we will see Ibi and Jalen playing a few less minutes. The freshmen are going to get some minutes by virtue of necessity.
I wouldn't count on much less minutes for Crutcher and Ibi, even with a full roster. Maybe in a blowout, but this team doesn't seem like the type of team that will blow anybody out. AG has shown, especially with Crutcher over his three + years, that he is not afraid to play with his horses.
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. . . AG has shown, especially with Crutcher over his three + years, that he is not afraid to play with his horses.

He might have learned that from Don Donoher - five starters and a sub.

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As discussed this season’s entire NCAA tourney to be held in Indy, Hopefully the Flyers will be making the short drive.

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Summary of A10:

SLU - 12
VCU - 31
St. Bonny - 57
Rich - 68
URI - 79
Davidson - 92
UD - 111
Dukes - 134
UMass - 139
Lasalle - 150
GMason - 189
STJ - 243
GW - 275
Fordham - 337

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SMU 37
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EIU - 219
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Surprised the DDN doesn’t have any injury updates. Would love to know what is going on and when the injured will be able to play again.
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Things hurting the Flyers - our very small margin of victory over sub-200 teams (all wins actually) and a really bad home loss (Q3) to LaSalle. No quality wins (potential tourney teams).

Our wins are Q4, Q4, Q3, Q2, Q4.

Our losses are Q2 and Q3.

Potential - We play SLU twice, URI twice and VCU twice. Unfortunately, we also play GW twice.

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That is the tough part for Coach Grant with a young team. Do you sacrifice a few losses to develop your young players? Playing our best five 38-40 minutes maximizes our wins, but it also hurts the next three years. What would you do, especially if your job depended on it?
I don't think our coach needs to worry about losing his job! I could see your scenario being true at the majority of Div. 1 schools but not presently at The University of Dayton, which was the headline on the front page of the DDN when we defeated OSU in the NCAAT.

I believe that Covid-19 and injuries are the main reason that Coach Grant has had to juggle the lineup so far this season. Luke Frazier was the first freshman to commit to UD and he hasn't even played yet! AG is doing a great job since he hasn't even had the whole team all together for any practices. The LaSalle game was an anomaly because our home court advantage was gone because of the pandemic. We would have won by ten points!
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the good news is there's some top 100 victories to had in conference. Go 14-4 (easier said than done), get 3 of 4 against STL/VCU and I'd think they'd be in the conversation
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Surprised the DDN doesn’t have any injury updates. Would love to know what is going on and when the injured will be able to play again.
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As has been for CAG's tenure, injury information will be extremely limited, if at all forthcoming. Lots of coach-speak and nothing that will be definite. And this is fine, IMO.

The best information, or guess, we'll get will come from students on campus who may see or interact with any players. And in Covid-times, even those will be extremely limited.
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This is...alarming. To sum up:

Luke: out until at least mid-Jan

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https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basket...l-net-rankings

Summary of A10:

SLU - 12
VCU - 31
St. Bonny - 57
Rich - 68
URI - 79
Davidson - 92
UD - 111
Dukes - 134
UMass - 139
Lasalle - 150
GMason - 189
STJ - 243
GW - 275
Fordham - 337

Dayton Opponents:

SMU 37
Ole Miss - 62
Miss St. - 113
EIU - 219
NKU - 216
Wright State 80, they just lost again over the weekend iirc


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Wright State 80, they just lost again over the weekend iirc


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To a very weak Oakland team.

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To a very weak Oakland team.

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Yes, beat them by 39 on Jan 1, lost by 10 the next day, Jan 2. Same location for both games. How does that happen? Very odd.
Looks like the Horizon and some other conference are just having teams play their conference opponents back to back
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Let's face it. This team and the roster is in complete disarray. Unless they win the A-10 auto bid any thought of NCAA play this year is baseless. The most we can hope for as fans this year is a return to good health for all and a chemistry bonding for a team of talented strangers. Last year was the best ever and this year is a return to reality. Go Flyers!
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Winning two games in a row on consecutive days against the same opponent is very, very difficult. The team that loses the first day has extra incentive. The team that wins the first day can become overconfident, especially if a blowout occurs.

Play in an empty arena and or gym and anything can happen. The LaSalle loss is a great example. We destroyed them last year in their place.
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Winning two games in a row on consecutive days against the same opponent is very, very difficult. The team that loses the first day has extra incentive. The team that wins the first day can become overconfident, especially if a blowout occurs.

Play in an empty arena and or gym and anything can happen. The LaSalle loss is a great example. We destroyed them last year in their place.
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The way I look at it, our entire schedule is an "away game". It's been posted many times already that we are giving up 6-8 points without our crowd.

We are now 5-2 on the road in my book. Any other year that would get the job done.
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Let's face it. This team and the roster is in complete disarray. Unless they win the A-10 auto bid any thought of NCAA play this year is baseless. The most we can hope for as fans this year is a return to good health for all and a chemistry bonding for a team of talented strangers. Last year was the best ever and this year is a return to reality. Go Flyers!
This team is where most teams across the country are due to the disruption (offseason, preseason, in-season) caused by the pandemic. Kansas just got their doors blown off AT HOME. I don't care if it's Texas and if Texas is (finally) having a decent season...that doesn't happen ANY OTHER YEAR. Yeah call it disarray, but disarray applies across the board and doesn't translate, at this point in the season, to who's in/out of the dance...if there even is one.
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Zimi did his first press interview today.
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Zimi did his first press interview today.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...IQ2GHYCPMKMYY/
"After the game, Crutcher and Watson both credited Dayton’s improved offensive performance to having Nwokeji, a 6-foot-7 forward, on the court more often in a smaller lineup."

Where have we heard this?
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The missing senior leadership ??????


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The missing senior leadership ??????


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The story would have probably had a little more cache if they had held on to win in regulation instead of giving up the lead. Or if the player led timeout had happened between regulation and OT.
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The missing senior leadership ??????


https://pressprosmagazine.com/mccoy-...past-davidson/
So many of us, including myself, wondered what kind of leadership is present this year, and it sounds like more than we are aware. Part of the problem is that Ibi and Jalen do not do all the body language of a Trey Landers, so we think they are not leading. Leadership is a lady that comes in many different forms.

“It was definitely unusual for us (the players) to do that all by ourselves,” Watson added. “But it speaks to some veterans knowing what they are doing, to step up and help out and try to lead the team as best we can.”

It was all new to freshman guard Zimi Nwokeji, who has played increasingly more minutes lately due to injuries to Dwayne Cohill, Rodney Chatman, R.J. Blakney, Luke Weaver and the defection of Chris Johnson.

Like Grant, Zimi stood with mouth shut and ears open during that timeout as Crutcher and Watson spoke."

This opened my eyes!
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So the George Washington game on Sunday will now be played at George Mason. At this point, what’s the difference between doing that and just bringing George Washington to Dayton for two games? There will be no fans, so it’s not like one team has a distinct HomeCourt advantage, and it’s less travel for both teams really.
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So the George Washington game on Sunday will now be played at George Mason. At this point, what’s the difference between doing that and just bringing George Washington to Dayton for two games? There will be no fans, so it’s not like one team has a distinct HomeCourt advantage, and it’s less travel for both teams really.
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We tend to only think about fans, but there are other home court advantages like sleeping in your own bed, eating where you are used to eating, the feeling of the locker room, the bounce of the floor, the rims and the shooting background. If there are any ex-players on this site, they might comment on what constitutes a home court advantage.

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The story would have probably had a little more cache if they had held on to win in regulation instead of giving up the lead. Or if the player led timeout had happened between regulation and OT.
Someone needs to get Hal McCoy a roster...and an editor. Luke Weaver? Chris Johnson?

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. . . the defection of Chris Johnson. . .

The LOSS of Chris Johnson - how about a little respect?

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So many of us, including myself, wondered what kind of leadership is present this year, and it sounds like more than we are aware. Part of the problem is that Ibi and Jalen do not do all the body language of a Trey Landers, so we think they are not leading. Leadership is a lady that comes in many different forms.

“It was definitely unusual for us (the players) to do that all by ourselves,” Watson added. “But it speaks to some veterans knowing what they are doing, to step up and help out and try to lead the team as best we can.”

It was all new to freshman guard Zimi Nwokeji, who has played increasingly more minutes lately due to injuries to Dwayne Cohill, Rodney Chatman, R.J. Blakney, Luke Weaver and the defection of Chris Johnson.

Like Grant, Zimi stood with mouth shut and ears open during that timeout as Crutcher and Watson spoke."

This opened my eyes!
Reminds me of when Bobby Knight told his team that he was quitting because he was so mad at his team...the players had to do stuff such as run practice for a few days, rent a bus to travel to an away game, arrange the team meal, maybe get hotel rooms, pack all the equipment, hire a bus driver, etc., and then Coach Knight reappeared and took back over minutes before the away game started.

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The LOSS of Chris Johnson - how about a little respect?

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Would like some leadership from Grant at end of game. You’d think that after all his years coaching he’d be competent in managing late stage- clearly he’s not.
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Two things...first, Ibi needs to understand that he should not be handling the ball at mid-court; nor should he be driving wildly into the middle of the "trees" to merely get his wild shot blocked. Secondly, our guards need to understand that just because Jordy is open under the hoop, that does not mean he is ready to accept a pass. I want the ball in either Crutcher's or Weaver's hands.
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And............we're back to 2018. Nice to see you again.

I have questioned Grant's late game decisions/approach, certainly several times this year. From things like 2-for-1 scenarios, full-court ball pressure on final possessions, and fouling/not fouling up three. But I'm stopping way short of making such an absolute statement that "he's not competent in managing late game situations."

Maybe he could see what was developing in the huddle and let it play out. Saw value in the interaction of a player lead discussion.

I may post an entirely separate thread on fouling vs not fouling when up three, mostly because it's a polarizing discussion with lots of different scenarios and variables.

As it relates to the Davidson game and not fouling with still a foul to give - on paper, it seemed so obvious, but as it played out, not so much clarity. IIRC, Crutcher was guarding Grady initially and got screened off the ball, with Zimi switching. He did a great job of picking up Grady after the switch. There was a very brief moment when Grady came inside the three-point line, shortly before he did his step back, where Zimi could have fouled him. And fouled him for their non-shooting, 6th foul. Other than that, I don't seem to recall an ideal spot in Davidson's final possession to commit said foul.

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You need to be very careful when you're up 3 and have a foul to give, especially when the ball handler is outside the 3-point line. Anyone with the ball is coached - and should know - that if a defender is coming at you to use that 6th foul, you need to be prepared to chuck the ball toward the basket in order to get 3 FTs and a chance to tie the game...or win if you're only down 2.

Back in my coaching days I did this against Lebanon. We were down 1 with 5 sec to go...I had the inbound pass go to midcourt and told my player they would foul him and to go right at the defender who was told to use the foul...and as soon as he reached to foul, I told the kid to shoot (25 footer) the ball. I told the ref exactly what I was doing and that I expected him to call it a shooting foul. The ball went to my player at midcourt, he took 2 dribbles, drew the defender and foul, and chucked the ball at the hoop...WHISTLE...3 FTs...only made 1, and we went to OT and won.

So it's not as easy as some of you think or are making it out to be...A well coached defense will use that foul...and well coached offense knows it's coming and is ready...so the well coached defense has to know when, where and how to foul. Because if you just foul for the sake of using a 6th foul, it may come back to make you look stupid.
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In addition to Rollo’s insightful comments, it often times is easier for an offense to design a three point shot on an out of bounds play vs, the mayhem of driving down the court in the waning seconds. If it were a 1 and 1 situation, I see more reason to foul. In the back court I also see some merit-assuming the guy can’t chuck up a shot. In the front court, I think it is disadvantageous to foul.
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A player like Grady could get a 4 point play out of it, a rushed 3 that goes in And-One.
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I think you are all complicating this too much...he could also make the three if you let him and he did.
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I think you are all complicating this too much...he could also make the three if you let him and he did.
Complicate? Not really, but certainly throwing out some scenarios that didn't apply to the final possession against Davidson. It's a slower day at work today, so I am going to launch a new thread on this topic.

Re: the Grady triple, UD far from "let him" have the three. He hit an extremely difficult step back three. Zimi's mistake(s) were: 1) not fouling Grady at 4/5 second mark when he took a dribble INSIDE the three point line and 2) overcommitting to defend that "drive" when Grady did step/dribble inside that 3-point line. Zimi should not have "bit" on that, but rather INVITE Grady to be driving to the hoop with 5 seconds left and down 3.
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I'm hearing SLU will return to action next week on 1/26 against our Flyers.

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I'm hearing SLU will return to action next week on 1/26 against our Flyers.

I'm wondering what that game will look like for SLU?

Let's hope they are very, very rusty. I'll take a win any way we can get it.
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER View Post
I'm hearing SLU will return to action next week on 1/26 against our Flyers.

I'm wondering what that game will look like for SLU?
My guess is they will play lackluster and we should probably win, at least based on the excuses I've seen for our losses and lackluster games this year.
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Let's hope they are very, very rusty. I'll take a win any way we can get it.
My sources have suggested that they've had no more than 5 or 6 guys available for any kind of practice, individual drills over the last 2 weeks and that COVID has pretty much run thru the entire team.

If in fact the return date of next Tuesday is set, I suspect there will be a lot of film and preparation in advance of the Flyers coming to town.

I haven't heard much of anything about how hard any of the players were hit with the virus, but it's unlikely SLU will be at 100% physically.

Maybe, just maybe, the Flyers catch a break against a SLU team that's "not quite themselves" just yet.
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My sources have suggested that they've had no more than 5 or 6 guys available for any kind of practice, individual drills over the last 2 weeks and that COVID has pretty much run thru the entire team.

If in fact the return date of next Tuesday is set, I suspect there will be a lot of film and preparation in advance of the Flyers coming to town.

I haven't heard much of anything about how hard any of the players were hit with the virus, but it's unlikely SLU will be at 100% physically.

Maybe, just maybe, the Flyers catch a break against a SLU team that's "not quite themselves" just yet.
Interesting stuff. They'll still be physical and D up but it sure would be nice to see the St. Louis shooting of past years and not this years rendition.
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Interesting stuff. They'll still be physical and D up but it sure would be nice to see the St. Louis shooting of past years and not this years rendition.

Well, after this George Washington shenanigans, who knows if we will be playing next Tuesday? or who we will have available?
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He's referring to the possibility that some of our players and/or staff got covid from GW. From what I understand on-court (or field) transmission is extremely unlikely, but definitely something to keep an eye on.
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He's referring to the possibility that some of our players and/or staff got covid from GW. From what I understand on-court (or field) transmission is extremely unlikely, but definitely something to keep an eye on.
I'm not questioning your understanding, as I'm not an expert in disease/virus control and transmission. But from a general observation re: COVID and how it spreads, I would think basketball would be a likely platform for transmission.
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I don't believe they've come across any reported/known cases of Covid transmission from one player to another during an athletic competition. I know the NFL did a big study back in late summer that found no cases, but obviously that was prior to indoor basketball (outside of the NBA bubble) in the states. May have included some overseas though as I know the study looked at european soccer as well as baseball and other organized sporting events on all levels.
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I don't believe they've come across any reported/known cases of Covid transmission from one player to another during an athletic competition. I know the NFL did a big study back in late summer that found no cases, but obviously that was prior to indoor basketball (outside of the NBA bubble) in the states. May have included some overseas though as I know the study looked at european soccer as well as baseball and other organized sporting events on all levels.
It's possible I was mis-interpreting hawkoooo's post as well. The reason that there haven't been many, perhaps any, known transmissions during competition is because of the testing protocols that these players go thru in advance of playing.

I felt/thought Hawkoo's response was to yet a previous post that suggested or inferred that the GW player(s) already had it when we played Sunday. That's not been confirmed, or even alleged, at this point.

My answer was purely in the context of a contagious player playing in a game. Under those circumstances, I suspect the transmission is likely.

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It's possible I was mis-interpreting hawkoooo's post as well. The reason that there haven't been many, perhaps any, known transmissions during competition is because of the testing protocols that these players go thru in advance of playing.

I felt/thought Hawkoo's response was to yet a previous post that suggested or inferred that the GW player(s) already had it when we played Sunday. That's not been confirmed, or even alleged, at this point.

My answer was purely in the context of a contagious player playing in a game. Under those circumstances, I suspect the transmission is likely.

Apologies if I misread or misunderstood.
I guess this is mostly moot now that we know it was a staff member, but to piggy back off Medford's post, I believe it boils down to time of exposure.

IIRC, the NFL study said about 15 minutes. So you might think it would be pretty easy to transmit in the trenches of a football game, but in reality the players are just not that close to each other for long enough periods of time.

Basketball is indoors and there's no helmets, facemasks, visors so maybe it is a little more risky. There are points in a game where a player is very close to an opposing player, but how long does that proximity last?

Let's put it this way. If a player on GW tested positive and it turned out later that a UD player tested positive and the only contact the UD player had with any known infected person was ON THE COURT with this GW player this would be front page news. I don't mean front page of the DDN. I mean headline national breaking story that is reported all over the world. It would be the first instance of any such thing occurring (again I'm hitching myself onto Medford's post).
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