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MNFats, Thanks for having the idea to do this thread, and the guts to stick to your guns. It is refreshing to see someone in this day and age want to stick to only facts.
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Regardless of how the last 'ship turns out, the cupboard is not bare. AG has pieces to work with, develop, and time to pull it together. Below is a pretty good stable, injuries aside.


CONFIRMED ARRIVALS:
Jordan Davis
Jordan Pierce
Matej Svoboda
Jalen Crutcher
One TBD, and I hope it's this guy = Obadiah Toppin, a 6-9 forward from Ossining, N.Y.

CONFIRMED RETENTION:
Xeyrius
Mikesell
D Davis
Sam
Landers
Kostas
Crosby
Josh Cunningham

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Obadiah Toppin !!

Practice just got a whole lot more competitive.

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This team has become Bucky's worst nightmare.
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Well, with off-season personnel changes apparently nearly complete ( knock on wood), I'd have to say for a coaching change year, this off-season has gone aboutas well as could be hoped. Very impressed with the AG regime in early returns.
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I've always thought once he got here, he would recruit like crazy but we will see how does in-game and can he coach them up/develop them that is TBD... I can't wait to find out.
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Right now:

1 scholarship open for the Class of 2018, 5 scholarships open for the Class of 2019. I expect those numbers to change (Mikesell almost certainly to redshirt, Kostas maybe to NBA early as he and his brother blow up - he'll get drafted on potential alone if he shows anything, etc).

I can't wait to see what CAG does with the Class of 2019 with a full recruiting cycle. I think UD's recruiting will reach heights previously unseen here.
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This team has become Bucky's worst nightmare.
Could you imagine a three-man team with Joe Nuxhall added to the mix? Yikes.
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Was travelling yesterday - didn't get a change to update this. Added OT to the list and I removed Naz (at the very least he isn't coming here this year).

This should conclude the tracking of confirmed arrivals and departures (hopefully). I would prefer the thread stay open in case people still want to discuss.

Looking at this list I can say, at the very least, this upcoming season will be very interesting.

CONFIRMED DEPARTURES:
Archie Miller
Allen Griffen
Tom Ostrom
Bill Comar
Kevin Kuwik

CONFIRMED ARRIVALS:
Anthony Grant
Jordan Davis
Jordan Pierce
Darren Hertz
Anthony Solomon
James Kane
Ricardo Greer
Matej Svoboda
Jalen Crutcher
Andy Farrell
Obadiah Toppin


CONFIRMED RETENTION:
Xeyrius
Mikesell
D Davis
Sam
Landers
Kostas
Crosby
Josh Cunningham


SOURCES:
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...Uj1qW5d5XmrSXK
http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...nUlKVezOVCngI/
http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasket...assistant.html
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http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...rQgLI4vV0XFfO/
https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...77731446353920
http://www.daytonflyers.com/news/201...nig-staff.aspx
http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...LS9GGlJBWb4NJ/
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...gQz3BGLCEa10K/
https://twitter.com/Jalen_NoRose1/st...53717079293952
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...GN6tiGR7SmPRL/
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Could you imagine a three-man team with Joe Nuxhall added to the mix? Yikes.
Joe wouldn't say much
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This team has become Bucky's worst nightmare.
Maybe with the announcer section upgrade they could install a text-to-speech function for Bucky. Yeah have their names on buttons and every time a player's name needs broadcast he can just stop talking for that instant, press the button and voila, the Google maps lady states the player's name. Fixed. I predict it will add two years to Bucky's career.
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Very interesting season indeed. Just looking down the roster is a bit exciting, with many possibilities. But at the same time a whole bunch of speed bumps. Coaching, development, rehab, and chemistry--not to mention scheduling as well, have all got to mesh.

Very very interesting season coming up.
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Not sure where to put this, but here ya go:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...class-of-2018/
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When I read this I thought, so much for respecting his time at UD. Then I reconsidered. He did not offer until we gave the release. If the commitment is to the coach primarily, then the athlete wants to follow the coach. Would have loved to see what this kid would have done for us.
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Not sure where to put this, but here ya go:

http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...class-of-2018/
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It's easy to see why the one-time Dayton commit, who was recently offered by Archie Miller at Indiana, is drumming up major interest from schools across the country. If he can put up this type of performance against top athletes at the college level consistently, staying in the Class of 2017 and taking his talents to the Division I level next season is well within reach.




I suppose that I do not have a problem with this...we gave him his release, and we have no open scholarships.

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From Medford's link:


It's easy to see why the one-time Dayton commit, who was recently offered by Archie Miller at Indiana, is drumming up major interest from schools across the country. If he can put up this type of performance against top athletes at the college level consistently, staying in the Class of 2017 and taking his talents to the Division I level next season is well within reach.




I suppose that I do not have a problem with this...we gave him his release, and we have no open scholarships.
We got Obi Toppin as a result of his release. We are better off IMO.
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It tugs at me like the Ladontae Henton deal. But in this case I choose to believe that Carter's success in some small way validates the quality of recruits that we retained. Miller and staff had a good eye for talent, and overall we retained a gaggle of them.
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I love how a kid who scores SIX points gets an entire article written about him. I'm sure Andre Igudola posterized some kid back in his AAU days. I'm not bashing Naz, I just think it is ridiculous to get all giddy about someone who scored six points in a game...I don't care how loud two of those points were. And we fans wonder why kids don't have any fundamentals anymore? Here's part of the reason why.
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I love how a kid who scores SIX points gets an entire article written about him. I'm sure Andre Igudola posterized some kid back in his AAU days. I'm not bashing Naz, I just think it is ridiculous to get all giddy about someone who scored six points in a game...I don't care how loud two of those points were. And we fans wonder why kids don't have any fundamentals anymore? Here's part of the reason why.
Yup. They practice dunking over cars and dream of dunking on "somebody"

Then they go 4-13 from the line and cost their team the game.
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Yup. They practice dunking over cars and dream of dunking on "somebody"

Then they go 4-13 from the line and cost their team the game.
Here's your regular reminder that the facts don't always fit the narrative:

This year's overall NCAA FT percentage was the highest ever (70.38%), breaking the record set last year (69.96%).

I guess we have to credit AAU with making kids today better FT shooters than ever since AAU always gets blamed for not teaching kids the fundamentals.
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Here's your regular reminder that the facts don't always fit the narrative:

This year's overall NCAA FT percentage was the highest ever (70.38%), breaking the record set last year (69.96%).

I guess we have to credit AAU with making kids today better FT shooters than ever since AAU always gets blamed for not teaching kids the fundamentals.
I think you may have missed the point. The kid had one dunk and scored 6 total points and they glorified the dunk without looking at the rest of the game. I really don't care how a kid dunks the ball as long as he plays the game the right way and is a good all around player.
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Very interesting season indeed. Just looking down the roster is a bit exciting, with many possibilities. But at the same time a whole bunch of speed bumps. Coaching, development, rehab, and chemistry--not to mention scheduling as well, have all got to mesh.

Very very interesting season coming up.
Regarding chemistry... sounds like team is all in with Grant and staff - according to KD:

“Coach Grant and the rest of his staff are amazing guys. The players that are there now love him.”
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I think you may have missed the point. The kid had one dunk and scored 6 total points and they glorified the dunk without looking at the rest of the game. I really don't care how a kid dunks the ball as long as he plays the game the right way and is a good all around player.
He put up 20 and 22 the two prior games which isn't mentioned. He can play.
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He put up 20 and 22 the two prior games which isn't mentioned. He can play.
You're still missing the point. They glorified a dunk in a specific game like it was some type of determine factor in a player's overall game. It's not. Show me how he shoots from 12'. Can he shoot the 3 ball? How does he handle the ball?
There are a million kids who can jump and dunk but can't play worth a lick.
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You're still missing the point. They glorified a dunk in a specific game like it was some type of determine factor in a player's overall game. It's not. Show me how he shoots from 12'. Can he shoot the 3 ball? How does he handle the ball?
There are a million kids who can jump and dunk but can't play worth a lick.
That's not what they did. They also mentioned that he has "drawn a dozen offers from the likes of Washington, Pitt, Vanderbilt and Georgia Tech" and that Indiana had offered. That should answer your other questions unless you think that one highlight is the only reason they offered.
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If he is not coming to Dayton I couldn't' care less who he dunks on, or how many points he has unless it happens in a game that matters against UD. This is not sour grapes, it is indifference.
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If he is not coming to Dayton I couldn't' care less who he dunks on, or how many points he has unless it happens in a game that matters against UD. This is not sour grapes, it is indifference.
Nahziah Carter committed to Washington last night.
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Old 06-10-2017, 11:35 AM
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If he is not coming to Dayton I couldn't' care less who he dunks on, or how many points he has unless it happens in a game that matters against UD. This is not sour grapes, it is indifference.
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Nahziah Carter committed to Washington last night.
Looks like Flyers98 will get his wish. Committing to Washington is one way to stay off TV since nobody actually gets the PAC12 network
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Nahziah Carter committed to Washington last night.
That is a big win for Udub...he also had offers from Dayton, Indiana, Georgetown, Pittsburgh, St. John's, Providence, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Penn State, NC State, Vanderbilt, and UConn.
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Old 06-10-2017, 01:46 PM
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Sounds like Carter wanted to get far away from Buffalo. If you have been there in the winter, you can't blame him.
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Carter is actually from Rochester, about an hour from Buffalo. Not quite as much snow, but certainly have their share. Not that they want it to snow there, but they generally know how to handle it. They don't close schools and call the National Guard when there's a threat of a dusting.
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Sounds like Carter wanted to get far away from Buffalo. If you have been there in the winter, you can't blame him.
Ray Harper says "Carter has 99 problems, but snow won't be one of 'em".
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Old 06-11-2017, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyer 79 View Post
Carter is actually from Rochester, about an hour from Buffalo. Not quite as much snow, but certainly have their share. Not that they want it to snow there, but they generally know how to handle it. They don't close schools and call the National Guard when there's a threat of a dusting.
Yep Rochester, I stand corrected. Buffalo's average snowfall is 93", and Rochester a mere 84", and Seattle 5". He does need to take a dozen umbrellas.
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:57 AM
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Ray Harper says "Carter's got 99 problems, but snow ain't one".
FTFY.
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