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Old 04-12-2017, 12:20 PM
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With that title, I'm guessing they also hire a DoBO.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:39 PM
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With that title, I'm guessing they also hire a DoBO.
I don't think so just changing titles and some duties around.
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Originally Posted by MNFats View Post
Adding a spot for recruits:

CONFIRMED DEPARTURES:
Archie Miller
Allen Griffen
Tom Ostrom
Bill Comar

CONFIRMED ARRIVALS:
Anthony Grant
Jordan Davis

CONFIRMED RETENTION:
Xeyrius
Crosby
Mikesell
D Davis
Sam
Landers

RECRUITS STILL COMMITTED:
Matej Svoboda
Jordan Pierce

RECRUITS RELEASED FROM NLI (UNCOMMITTED):
McKinley Wright

RECRUITS RELEASED FROM NLI (COMMITTED)
Naz Carter - Prep School


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http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...nUlKVezOVCngI/
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Mnfats: where is Kostas on your list? Isn't he confirmed to be staying? Please correct your list?
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Old 04-12-2017, 09:08 PM
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I don't think so just changing titles and some duties around.
Definitely a different role than DOBO
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:38 PM
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I wouldn't exactly call Svoboda committed. Kostas and Cunningham meanwhile are locked in unless they want to go to a juco or lose a year of eligibility. So they are way more confirmed than Svobda is committed.
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I wouldn't exactly call Svoboda committed. Kostas and Cunningham meanwhile are locked in unless they want to go to a juco or lose a year of eligibility. So they are way more confirmed than Svobda is committed.
He was a verbal commit and hasn't verbally de-committed.
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Originally Posted by FlyingArrow View Post
He was a verbal commit and hasn't verbally de-committed.
But also hasn't signed a LOI. I guess that can't happen until sometime in May, so it may be awhile before we know if he's coming unless he retracts his verbal commitment.
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Old 04-13-2017, 12:30 AM
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He was a verbal commit and hasn't verbally de-committed.
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Mnfats: where is Kostas on your list? Isn't he confirmed to be staying? Please correct your list?
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There has been essentially nothing on Kostas. We can speculate that he is staying because he doesn't want to sit again, but I guess I'm just waiting for him to say something...or the team to say something about him.
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Old 04-13-2017, 12:51 AM
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But also hasn't signed a LOI. I guess that can't happen until sometime in May, so it may be awhile before we know if he's coming unless he retracts his verbal commitment.
And at this point in the game - a verbal is essentially the same as a NLI. Since AM left we are letting guys out of NLI (as we should). So I see Pierce and Svoboda in similar buckets. They can still go to UD if they want...or they can go somewhere else if they want.
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Old 04-13-2017, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MNFats View Post
And at this point in the game - a verbal is essentially the same as a NLI. Since AM left we are letting guys out of NLI (as we should). So I see Pierce and Svoboda in similar buckets. They can still go to UD if they want...or they can go somewhere else if they want.
They can all still go to UD if they want. Or they can go somewhere else. Difference with Svoboda: he has no binding agreement (to be let out of), and good luck getting a hold of him.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan View Post
But also hasn't signed a LOI. I guess that can't happen until sometime in May, so it may be awhile before we know if he's coming unless he retracts his verbal commitment.
Spring signing period started yesterday and runs through May 17th so he could signed yesterday if he wanted to.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:35 AM
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There has been essentially nothing on Kostas. We can speculate that he is staying because he doesn't want to sit again, but I guess I'm just waiting for him to say something...or the team to say something about him.
When Griffin left, didn't he have a quote saying if Kostas continued to add strength he would be good next year? I know that's pretty weak, but with the rest of Griffin's quotes, I do not think he would have said that if Kostas was looking to leave.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:10 AM
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Why all this concern about Kostas? Isn't he a bonafide student-athlete just like all the rest on the team? Why would he leave verses anyone else?

Say J Crosby left and ....... OH! I get it! Most of you aren't concerned if JC left. But Kostas no way no how do we want him to leave.

I guess it is one of those states that we would rather have the unknown than the known athlete.

PS I don't see either one of them or any other current player leave.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:39 AM
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They can all still go to UD if they want. Or they can go somewhere else. Difference with Svoboda: he has no binding agreement (to be let out of), and good luck getting a hold of him.
Good luck getting a hold of him!?!??!

Are you kidding me???

He's probably reading this thread RIGHT NOW!!!

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Good luck getting a hold of him!?!??!

Are you kidding me???

He's probably reading this thread RIGHT NOW!!!
On that note IF you are a player wasting time reading on this forum, don't hold any weight to anything EVER said by us moronic fans.
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Good luck getting a hold of him!?!??!

Are you kidding me???

He's probably reading this thread RIGHT NOW!!!
This is a long thread. Kind of doubt players are reading it. But they are probably reading any thread with their name in the subject line.
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My guess is we get stiffed with the Czech.
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Svoboda. To me it depends on his current suitors. Is he being contacted and by whom. If he's not getting any P-5 offers then i still like our chances. Provided he's deemed a fit for AG's new system. Think the best part for him might just be the prospect of playing hoops at a good institution in the US. Foreigners by and large dont seem to be the glamor chasers and prima donnas that most homegrown kids are. Jmo.
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William Thomas Comar

I went to IUs regular university website and did an employee search. A William Thomas Comar is employed in Athletics and has been assigned a university email address. I would take that as a confirmation Comar has left.

I also searched Ostrom. There were 3 listed. All 3 are students in the system and none enrolled in Bloomington. Doesn't look like Ostrom is employed by IU currently.

Also read the article on another thread that says a source said Ostrom was on campus. That might be true. It very well could be he was on campus to tour and check it out before he makes a decision to say or leave. It doesn't look like Ostrom is employed by IU yet and thus I would say he is still considering his options.
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I went to IUs regular university website and did an employee search. A William Thomas Comar is employed in Athletics and has been assigned a university email address. I would take that as a confirmation Comar has left.

I also searched Ostrom. There were 3 listed. All 3 are students in the system and none enrolled in Bloomington. Doesn't look like Ostrom is employed by IU currently.

Also read the article on another thread that says a source said Ostrom was on campus. That might be true. It very well could be he was on campus to tour and check it out before he makes a decision to say or leave. It doesn't look like Ostrom is employed by IU yet and thus I would say he is still considering his options.
I have Comar on there as confirmed. I have Ostrom as well (a few different reports seem to confirm it), but I will be happy to remove his name if we find out the reports are inaccurate.
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I went to IUs regular university website and did an employee search. A William Thomas Comar is employed in Athletics and has been assigned a university email address. I would take that as a confirmation Comar has left.

I also searched Ostrom. There were 3 listed. All 3 are students in the system and none enrolled in Bloomington. Doesn't look like Ostrom is employed by IU currently.

Also read the article on another thread that says a source said Ostrom was on campus. That might be true. It very well could be he was on campus to tour and check it out before he makes a decision to say or leave. It doesn't look like Ostrom is employed by IU yet and thus I would say he is still considering his options.
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Finally official from IU that Ostrom is gone to IU with Archie

http://iuhoosiers.com/news/2017/4/13...additions.aspx
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Tom is a good guy. Sorry to see him leave. He will do well at IU. I wish him the best.

My guess is the Wright is more loyal to Tom than to UD or even Archie. I think he built the relationship with Tom.
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Finally official from IU that Ostrom is gone to IU with Archie

http://iuhoosiers.com/news/2017/4/13...additions.aspx
Now removed from UD web site as well. KK still there.
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My guess is we get stiffed with the Czech.
I wonder who will pick up the Czech?
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The web site was immediately updated by removal of Ostrom's name. To me that means that Kuwik, Walsh and Frank...still appearing on the site..."may" be on AG's staff. Yes? No?
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The web site was immediately updated by removal of Ostrom's name. To me that means that Kuwik, Walsh and Frank...still appearing on the site..."may" be on AG's staff. Yes? No?
I don't think that page means much. I think they are making updates as things become official. Kuwik may stay. He may not. They will leave his name there until that is all figured out.
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The web site was immediately updated by removal of Ostrom's name. To me that means that Kuwik, Walsh and Frank...still appearing on the site..."may" be on AG's staff. Yes? No?
Walsh is reportedly going to Duquesne to work under his former Coach.
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Finally official from IU that Ostrom is gone to IU with Archie

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@DavidPJablonski: Dayton now has at least 2 scholarships open, probably 3, maybe 4. Svoboda told me he's still considering Dayton but hasn't heard from Dayton

Seems that if AG wanted to try to sign Svoboda, he would have at least reached out to him by now. I would guess it is rather unlikely Svoboda will sign with UD.
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@DavidPJablonski: Dayton now has at least 2 scholarships open, probably 3, maybe 4. Svoboda told me he's still considering Dayton but hasn't heard from Dayton

Seems that if AG wanted to try to sign Svoboda, he would have at least reached out to him by now. I would guess it is rather unlikely Svoboda will sign with UD.
I've always wondered if a 20 year old foreign player was going to show up in Dayton Ohio in August and be cleared by the NCAA clearinghouse to be eligible to play. My guess is that CAG has that same question.
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Interesting updates...

Adding a spot for recruits:

CONFIRMED DEPARTURES:
Archie Miller
Allen Griffen
Tom Ostrom
Bill Comar
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CONFIRMED ARRIVALS:
Anthony Grant
Jordan Davis
Jordan Pierce

CONFIRMED RETENTION:
Xeyrius
Mikesell
D Davis
Sam
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RECRUITS STILL COMMITTED:
Matej Svoboda


RECRUITS RELEASED FROM NLI (UNCOMMITTED):
McKinley Wright

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Naz Carter - Prep School

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So Crosby has been confirmed for both retention and also departure. Still pretty hard to make sense of what kind of squad Dayton is going to field next year...
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Josh and Kostas still haven't given public statements? Is that why they're nowhere to be found in the categories above?
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Josh and Kostas still haven't given public statements? Is that why they're nowhere to be found in the categories above?
Yeah - the current players are tough to confirm. Crosby had been quoted talking about next year...and left. The only thing Cunningham has said was a tweet showing he was upset about losing his 2nd head coach of his college career.

Nothing from Kostas.

Can't imagine either are excited about sitting another year, but that is just speculation at this point...
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Not only sitting another year, but they would both lose a year of eligibility. Don't see that happenening.
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Don't sweat it, Clayton. As of 4/1, it may very well have been a joke. But, as with many jokes, there was apparently some degree of truth behind it, so that @ 10 days later, the joke was on all of us back here in Dayton.

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In my opinion, Josh and Kostas are the most confirmed of retention because they have no other options that should be acceptible to them. Others like Crosby, despite what they say, can change their minds. If you take confirmed to mean essentially locked in, it's Kostas and Josh.
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Glad to see Jordan Pierce confirming his commitment to UD. Welcome (officially) to Flyer Nation, Mr. Pierce!

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CONFIRMED DEPARTURES:
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I wouldn't exactly call Svoboda committed. Kostas and Cunningham meanwhile are locked in unless they want to go to a juco or lose a year of eligibility. So they are way more confirmed than Svobda is committed.
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Cunningham has burned his transfer year so he can't really go anywhere until he graduates. Kostas would similarly lose a year of eligibility by transferring now. Those guys are pretty well locked in.
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In my opinion, Josh and Kostas are the most confirmed of retention because they have no other options that should be acceptible to them. Others like Crosby, despite what they say, can change their minds. If you take confirmed to mean essentially locked in, it's Kostas and Josh.
Can we just add Josh and Kostas to the list so we don't have to constantly hear this?
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Can we just add Josh and Kostas to the list so we don't have to constantly hear this?
I believe, like everyone else, that they will be back. We NEED them back. And you can make a very logical argument as to why they will be. However, the goal here is to, as best we can, keep the list free of speculation.

The truth is - neither of them have said anything. Nobody has said anything about them. And if they don't want to play here - they have options.

They can go play DII or JUCO for a year and then look for somewhere else to play. They can go play in Europe (probably more of an option for Kostas).

We had a guy say "the core group is coming back" and then THAT player left. Let's be patient. It's all going to play out over the next few weeks/months.
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I believe, like everyone else, that they will be back. We NEED them back. And you can make a very logical argument as to why they will be. However, the goal here is to, as best we can, keep the list free of speculation.

The truth is - neither of them have said anything. Nobody has said anything about them. And if they don't want to play here - they have options.

They can go play DII or JUCO for a year and then look for somewhere else to play. They can go play in Europe (probably more of an option for Kostas).

We had a guy say "the core group is coming back" and then THAT player left. Let's be patient. It's all going to play out over the next few weeks/months.
Then why even bother listing the current players on the roster as confirmed retention? We've seen Crosby leave after "confirming" he will be back, so every one of those guys could up and leave.

I just think it makes more sense to assume all the current players on the roster, including Kostas and Cunningham, will all be back until they have asked for a release. I just don't see why Kostas and Cunningham are being treated differently, they are part of the "core group" from last year.
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Then why even bother listing the current players on the roster as confirmed retention? We've seen Crosby leave after "confirming" he will be back, so every one of those guys could up and leave.

I just think it makes more sense to assume all the current players on the roster, including Kostas and Cunningham, will all be back until they have asked for a release. I just don't see why Kostas and Cunningham are being treated differently, they are part of the "core group" from last year.
How is Kostas part of the core group?
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He's been with the team for a year. He's not an incoming recruit. That sounds like "core" to me. I find this list noble but not definitive. None of these guys owe us some binding quote or a DDN interview. They're simply on the team until they're not (a la Crosby). To pretend otherwise is its own form of speculation.
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He's been with the team for a year. He's not an incoming recruit. That sounds like "core" to me. I find this list noble but not definitive. None of these guys owe us some binding quote or a DDN interview. They're simply on the team until they're not (a la Crosby). To pretend otherwise is its own form of speculation.
That's fair. I've said from the beginning that the current group is the hardest to confirm. They don't owe us any kind of comment. They can just keep showing up.

In my mind (which is a scary place) - this list may not list the full roster for a couple of months. Which is OK. The intent was to provide a place for people to get updates on who is staying/leaving and to get that news without weeding through pages of Ray Harper jokes and Archie bashing. Adding Josh/Kostas would suggest there was news of some kind to go with that.

Every person on the list should have been put on the list based on some kind of news. Some more accurate than others.
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Can we just add Josh and Kostas to the list so we don't have to constantly hear this?
Just because you don't want to read it again, doesn't mean he is wrong.
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Every person on the list should have been put on the list based on some kind of news.
MNFats, thanks for doing this. I understand what you are attempting to do, not sure why so many people seem to be bothered by your list.
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I don't understand why current players would consider disrupting their lives by transferring....because of a new coach of the caliber and personality of Grant...especially when opportunities for playing time have so improved.

Grant is not some unpredictable "unknown". Indeed, he has a well known record and NBA connections that Miller surely doesn't have. If the NBA is so important to players, both old and new, seems to me that AG gives them an improved shot.

Obviously, I don't understand the minds of teenage basketball players. But, what's not to like about AG?
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I agree UACFlyer- makes me think if someone does leave the only logical reason would be following a heart to heart chat with Coach Grant? This is only explanation that makes me optimistic on some new notable player recruiting.
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Dayton is officially announcing Anthony Grant's staff today. The coaches are Darren Hertz, Anthony Solomon, Ricardo Greer and James Kane. Per @DavidPJablonski


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I don't understand why current players would consider disrupting their lives by transferring....because of a new coach of the caliber and personality of Grant...especially when opportunities for playing time have so improved.

Grant is not some unpredictable "unknown". Indeed, he has a well known record and NBA connections that Miller surely doesn't have. If the NBA is so important to players, both old and new, seems to me that AG gives them an improved shot.

Obviously, I don't understand the minds of teenage basketball players. But, what's not to like about AG?
Maybe his system, his demands, players not liking the personality, etc. A bunch of things go into it and the real beauty is we are the least knowledgeable to assume what is right or wrong for a kid. It's "their" decision. I don't think there's a mom/dad on this site that would want an outsider to assume what is best for their child without even knowing that person.
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CONFIRMED DEPARTURES:
Archie Miller
Allen Griffen
Tom Ostrom
Bill Comar
Crosby
Kevin Kuwik

CONFIRMED ARRIVALS:
Anthony Grant
Jordan Davis
Jordan Pierce
Darren Hertz
Anthony Solomon
James Kane
Ricardo Greer


CONFIRMED RETENTION:
Xeyrius
Mikesell
D Davis
Sam
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McKinley Wright
Naz Carter

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Note that Solomon's title is "Associate Head Coach."
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Title, looks good on resume, pecking order over other assistants and of course more money. Delegation of authority.
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Someone tell me how to feel about the coaching staff. I'm as in the dark about them as I was about Grant.
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Someone tell me how to feel about the coaching staff. I'm as in the dark about them as I was about Grant.
I seem to recall several years ago people saying " who the hell is Archie Miller?"

People choose how they want to feel - i'm going to be positive and trust in the pedigrees of our new coaches.
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Someone tell me how to feel about the coaching staff. I'm as in the dark about them as I was about Grant.
Looks good to me. I think Solomon and Greer are going to be great recruiters. Minus the army experience, Kane's resume looks pretty similar to Kuwik's.
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I seem to recall several years ago people saying " who the hell is Archie Miller?"

People choose how they want to feel - i'm going to be positive and trust in the pedigrees of our new coaches.
Not sure that's exactly what's being asked. Most of us, if not nearly all, don't know much about these coaches. What's their background like, do we think they are good hires, etc.
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Yes, they appear to be good hires. There's tons of info about each on the 'net, if anyone chooses to do a search. Several links have been posted here and on other threads. Some of the message boards from the schools they're leaving are particularly revealing in a good way. They all appear to have good to great recruiting skills, but let's see how they do here. AG has the staff he wants, now it's time to get busy.
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Note that Solomon's title is "Associate Head Coach."
With Solomon's background as a head coach, plus his other creds, we could not bring him in as just an "assistant"...in my opinion.
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Someone tell me how to feel about the coaching staff. I'm as in the dark about them as I was about Grant.
Good write up on all of them
http://daytonflyers.com/news/2017/4/...nig-staff.aspx
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Kane and Solomon are big time recruiters. They say 80% of being successful is getting talent. We will get very good talent. IMO, the level of recruiting has just gone up for UD.
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Maybe his system, his demands, players not liking the personality, etc. A bunch of things go into it and the real beauty is we are the least knowledgeable to assume what is right or wrong for a kid. It's "their" decision. I don't think there's a mom/dad on this site that would want an outsider to assume what is best for their child without even knowing that person.
There are numerous examples of parents, especially fathers trying to live their lives over through their kids, who give their kids bad advice. Outsiders often can be far more objective and realistic than parents. As I recall, UD has first hand experience of a dad controlling the decisions of his son as a Flyer.
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There are numerous examples of parents, especially fathers trying to live their lives over through their kids, who give their kids bad advice. Outsiders often can be far more objective and realistic than parents. As I recall, UD has first hand experience of a dad controlling the decisions of his son as a Flyer.
LOL. You gave one example which wasn't a real hard one considering you got THAT father with THAT recruit from day 1 with all the warnings that came with it. That wasn't rocket science as you had a HC in Gregory that caved into the baggage that comes with getting a 5 star recruit many times. Care to share all the "numerous" ones while you're at it?

Also, without anyone knowing you or your kid how would you like a message board to be fixated on you/your kid and telling you what your kid should do regarding school, who he should date, what he should wear, what job to get, etc...Something tells me to take that bet in Vegas and put my mortgage on it that you would tell those same people to STFU and worry about themselves and their own family..
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As of 3 pm on Friday 4/21, roster page shows the following scholarship players for 2017-18:

Josh, Darrell, Sam, Trey, Xeyrius, Ryan, Kostas

AG has verbal confirmation the following recruits are honoring their commitments to play for UD:

Jordan P and Jordan D

That leaves 4 scholarships open that the coaches are working to fill.
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As of 3 pm on Friday 4/21, roster page shows the following scholarship players for 2017-18:
Not to be cynical, but as of 3pm on 4/17 John Crosby was on that same page.
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Not to be cynical, but as of 3pm on 4/17 John Crosby was on that same page.
I understand. But when he notified AG he wasn't returning, he was removed. Point being, there are those wondering if some like Kostas are returning. As of today it appears they are because they are still on the website roster. If they had notified AG otherwise, they would have been removed. It's good to see at this point no one else appears to be leaving. If we ended up with one transfer and two decommitments, I'd say we weathered the coaching change about as well as could be expected. Still need to sign 2 PGs, but otherwise I would be happy how the turnover played out. TBD.
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"A couple of players, freshmen Trey Landers and Kostas Antetokounmpo, stopped by the offices early Tuesday afternoon. They seemed comfortable with the new staff. At a quick glance, one would have thought they had been together for years, not six days."

The article confirmed it for me... Kostas is staying.
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The article confirmed it for me... Kostas is staying.
Yeah - was thinking the same thing. Probably won't get much better confirmation on him until practice starts.

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Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel View Post
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"A couple of players, freshmen Trey Landers and Kostas Antetokounmpo, stopped by the offices early Tuesday afternoon. They seemed comfortable with the new staff. At a quick glance, one would have thought they had been together for years, not six days."

The article confirmed it for me... Kostas is staying.
My daughter's boyfriend is a Milwaukee Bucks season ticket holder. My daughter says he has a man crush on Giannis. They went to the playoff game Saturday (lost to Raptors). I asked them to ask Giannis if Kostas was staying. His comment was, they are a loyal family - he will stay. I started thinking, it would be really hard for Kostas to play somewhere in the shadow of his brother - Wisc or Marquette. UD is a good place for him.
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There. Everybody happy? Are you done following my daughter to school asking when her daddy will confirm Kostas? Can you stop using weed killer on my lawn to spell "KOSTAS" in dead grass? Are you finished with showing up at my house with a trench coat - holding a boom box over your head blasting Peter Gabriel's classic "In Your Eyes"? Wait...that last one might have been a movie...either way I hope you're happy.

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There. Everybody happy? Are you done following my daughter to school asking when her daddy will confirm Kostas? Can you stop using weed killer on my lawn to spell "KOSTAS" in dead grass? Are you finished with showing up at my house with a trench coat - holding a boom box over your head blasting Peter Gabriel's classic "In Your Eyes"? Wait...that last one might have been a movie...either way I hope you're happy.

://www.mydaytondailynews.com/spo...LS9GGlJBWb4NJ/[/url][/B]

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The one name I really want to see on the "confirmed list" is Cunningham! Why this has not occurred is baffling and scary at the same time??? With him in the fold and the acquisition of some PG's we will be OK the upcoming season. Without him, rebounding becomes a major problem.
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My daughter's boyfriend is a Milwaukee Bucks season ticket holder. My daughter says he has a man crush on Giannis. They went to the playoff game Saturday (lost to Raptors). I asked them to ask Giannis if Kostas was staying. His comment was, they are a loyal family - he will stay.
"His" comment.
"His" = Giannis?
Or "His" = daughter's boyfriend?

Big difference there.
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The one name I really want to see on the "confirmed list" is Cunningham! Why this has not occurred is baffling and scary at the same time??? With him in the fold and the acquisition of some PG's we will be OK the upcoming season. Without him, rebounding becomes a major problem.
Why are you worried about Cunningham? He has played 2 years and sat 1 already. He only has two years left. Only way he can transfer and play immediately is if he graduates which would be a major accomplishment for a guy who has only been in school for three years and transferred once. If he transfers he has to sit another year before playing again which I can't imagine he wants to do that. The other option is to turn pro and go to overseas but its hard to see a foreign team picking up a guy who could barely jump at the end of the season to fill one of their 2 or 3 US players slots.

Just relax he'll be playing for UD next year.
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The one name I really want to see on the "confirmed list" is Cunningham! Why this has not occurred is baffling and scary at the same time??? With him in the fold and the acquisition of some PG's we will be OK the upcoming season. Without him, rebounding becomes a major problem.
He is the one guy that has been completely silent. Doesn't mean it's bad. As others have pointed out - having transferred once makes it really hard to do it again (he would end up losing a year of eligibility).

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If you are worried about Josh, just check his twitter every day.
https://twitter.com/JoshMCunningham?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
As long as it still has "University of Dayton #0" in the bio, he's confirmed. Seriously, it seems one of the first things "kids" do is update their twitter info.
Earlier in the month, I periodically checked Jordan Pierce's account and it never changed, so I was 99.9% confident he was keeping his commitment.
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"His" comment.
"His" = Giannis?
Or "His" = daughter's boyfriend?

Big difference there.
Sorry - no contact was made with Giannis. His - my daughter's boyfriend.
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If you are worried about Josh, just check his twitter every day.
https://twitter.com/JoshMCunningham?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
As long as it still has "University of Dayton #0" in the bio, he's confirmed. Seriously, it seems one of the first things "kids" do is update their twitter info.
Earlier in the month, I periodically checked Jordan Pierce's account and it never changed, so I was 99.9% confident he was keeping his commitment.
Good theory - but false. Nahziah Carter left "#UD Commit" on his twitter for weeks. That would have made him confirmed...until he wasn't.
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Good question FlyingArrow. Now we know.

I originally thought your question was silly, because of course "his" meant Giannis.

Why would we care what a Buck's season ticket holder thought of our chances of keeping Kostas?
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Good question FlyingArrow. Now we know.

I originally thought your question was silly, because of course "his" meant Giannis.

Why would we care what a Buck's season ticket holder thought of our chances of keeping Kostas?
Just passing the buck...
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