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You realize you just cited the first official recruiting class of the JOB era?
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He averaged 55 rebounds per game??? I'll take him!!!
55 for the year. He's terrible, but he went to Wayne so for some that's enough.
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...oaching-change

8 players from Pitt are expected to get permission to transfer including senior Ryan Luther who averaged 12 pts and 10 rbs.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...97/ryan-luther

Assuming he's a grad transfer, WOW, he'd look good in a UD uniform.
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Originally Posted by rollo View Post
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...oaching-change

8 players from Pitt are expected to get permission to transfer including senior Ryan Luther who averaged 12 pts and 10 rbs.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...97/ryan-luther

Assuming he's a grad transfer, WOW, he'd look good in a UD uniform.
ouch. This is beyond cupboard bare for next season....the entire cupboard is gone.
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ouch. This is beyond cupboard bare for next season....the entire cupboard is gone.
Given their performance this year, that may not be such a bad thing.
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Given their performance this year, that may not be such a bad thing.
Yea, not sure they even had a cupboard.
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Yea, not sure they even had a cupboard.
Too bad we didn't play them this year.
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Originally Posted by rollo View Post
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...oaching-change

8 players from Pitt are expected to get permission to transfer including senior Ryan Luther who averaged 12 pts and 10 rbs.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...97/ryan-luther

Assuming he's a grad transfer, WOW, he'd look good in a UD uniform.
Archie was the in the hunt for him. We might have been runner-up to Pitt for his services.
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Kennesaw State transfer James Scott is taking an unofficial visit to St. John's today, per a source. Maryland, New Mexico & Louisiana Tech the most recent to reach out. Averaged 17.3 PPG last season.
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I saw him play against FGSU. James Scott can really shoot. Also a competitor.

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Archie was the in the hunt for him. We might have been runner-up to Pitt for his services.
Maybe he’ll decide to “right the wrong” and become a Flyer for his final season? Would be a good addition.
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Relative to Rollo's comments re. Ryan Luther, he will seek a medical redshirt because he was injured in the first few games. If he receives another year of eligibility, can he play immediately as a grad transfer or must he sit out a transfer year?
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Jeremiah Jefferson told ESPN he will be a grad transfer. 6-2 guard started career at Weber State, averaged about 10 a game at Jackson State. Hit 63 3’s this season and sank 9 in one game.

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Evansville G Dru Smith (SO) has received permission to contact other schools.

6'3 190 guard from Evansville. 13.7ppg, 3.5 rebounds, 4.7 assists per game. .578% from the field and .862% from the line

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There's a whole bunch of guys out there, I wonder if we're talking to any of them. I guess if everything was settled though, this board would be dead as a door nail until Sept/Oct
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Seems like a lot of guards. I think we need to find another big.
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Kennesaw State transfer James Scott we've reached out to per Twitter
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San Jose state’s top 3 scorers told ESPN they will transfer. Ryan Welage (18.1), Keith Fisher (10.4, 6.3 rpg) and Jaycee Hillsman (9.6). Fisher is a freshman, Welage and Hillsman were juniors.

Welage is a 6'10 forward from Greensburg, Indiana. 18.1pgg & 5.4 boards. .429% from 3 & .877 from the FT line

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San Jose state’s top 3 scorers told ESPN they will transfer. Ryan Welage (18.1), Keith Fisher (10.4, 6.3 rpg) and Jaycee Hillsman (9.6). Fisher is a freshman, Welage and Hillsman were juniors.

Welage is a 6'10 forward from Greensburg, Indiana. 18.1pgg & 5.4 boards. .429% from 3 & .877 from the FT line

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Seems quite thin, but would add some size and scoring touch. Also (FWIW), his bio says he's studying kinesiology & nutrition (2 programs that UD has), and that he belongs to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. One certain downside, though: unless he graduates by this summer, we couldn't play him until 2019-20. We need help for 2018-19.
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If a sit out guy was good enough I think they'll be room for him
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Seems like a lot of guards. I think we need to find another big.
Concur strongly, whatever you say about the A10 being a guard dominated league; Basketball is a big man’s game. Today, i saw how undersized Rhode Island was against Duke. The size made all the difference.
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Evansville grad transfer Ryan Taylor has heard from Butler, Northwestern, Vandy, South Carolina, Ohio St, Ole Miss, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Illinois, Georgetown, Creighton, Minnesota, BC, Indiana, UCLA, Arizona, Wake, Miami, Purdue, Baylor, Maryland & Missouri, source told ESPN.
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Evansville grad transfer Ryan Taylor has heard from Butler, Northwestern, Vandy, South Carolina, Ohio St, Ole Miss, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Illinois, Georgetown, Creighton, Minnesota, BC, Indiana, UCLA, Arizona, Wake, Miami, Purdue, Baylor, Maryland & Missouri, source told ESPN.
BTW, since none of us have any idea who Taylor, is...he's a 6'5" stud and Arizona is lurking...

"A 6-foot-5 wing, Taylor averaged 21.2 points and 3.8 rebounds per game this past season as a redshirt junior. The Gary, Indiana native shot 42 percent from the field, 42 percent from 3, and 86 percent from the free-throw line."

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BTW, since none of us have any idea who Taylor, is...he's a 6'5" stud and Arizona is lurking...

"A 6-foot-5 wing, Taylor averaged 21.2 points and 3.8 rebounds per game this past season as a redshirt junior. The Gary, Indiana native shot 42 percent from the field, 42 percent from 3, and 86 percent from the free-throw line."

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So one of the other guys that transferred out of Bowling Green when Caldwell bounced is a 6'9 260 C/F by the name of Derek Koch.

He put decent numbers for a freshman big in the MAC, 6.7ppg 5.4 boards and was second on the team FT shooting at 81%.

I have no idea if he's good enough to play for us but there's a couple intriguing things about him.

He played for a farm school up by Wooster and he's the all time rebounding leader in the history of Ohio high school basketball. Rebounding is a good effort and desire statistic.

He got an offer from West Virginia out of HS.

http://www.times-gazette.com/sports/...-of-kochs-list

He's a former football player and he's got more muscle on them a typical freshman big. Physically he looks stronger than Kurt, Finn or Kostas out of high school. For a freshman he looks like someone after a couple years who could be a tight end

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McNeese State leading scorer Kalob Ledoux told ESPN he will transfer. 6-3 sophomore guard averaged 15 this past season.

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He's good enough to play for UD. Tell me last time UD had a kid (Ok, Big Steve, rest his soul) let alone a Frosh that big that could walk and chew gum at the same time..I think UD is due to have more than one player that size every 5-10 years that can average almost 7 ppg and 5.5 rpg..
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With big man JP a washout (or at least that's what he could be) the team needs a transfer big that has 1) experience and 2) can play immediately (means a grad transfer).

Baring a grad transfer we then need a standard transfer big who can play 2 years after a sit out year.
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"Expect them to be active in recruiting transfers. The Dayton basketball Instagram account shared a photo on Monday of Kevin Dillard, Jordan Sibert, Charles Cooke and Josh Cunningham — four transfers who have led Dayton in scoring the last seven years — and it looked like a message to potential transfers who might consider the Flyers."
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Boston University guard Cheddi Mosely will transfer, per source. Immediately eligible grad-transfer guard that averaged over 10 points throughout college career


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He finishes his LSU career with averages of 5.8 points, 2.3 assists, 2.3 rebounds, and 1.2 steals per game.

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guy produced against the good teams on their schedule

Boosting his scoring numbers by close to eight points per contest from his freshman to sophomore seasons, Scott posted some of his best outings against higher level competition. During the out of conference portion of the season, he scored 26 against Butler, 17 against Florida State, 21 against Washington and 19 against Texas Tech. He completed the season by scoring over 20 points in four of his final five contests and scored in double figures in over 80 percent of his games.
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Carson Williams of NKU is transferring. He is 6'5" and 230 lbs.

"In his sophomore season, he was NKU's third-leading scorer, averaging 12 points per game, to go along with 5.6 rebounds. Williams' 60.8 percent field goal percentage was one of the highest in the country.

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Does anyone else think all of this transferring in college basketball is getting out of control?
Short answer - Yes, I do.

There of couple of things that I have read that I was going to comment on but hesitated because of what it may stir up but it is the offseason and we are close to a Gem City Jam discussion.

I saw a quote or the like from AG when he was asked about the changes to to transfer rule that were being considered. Primarily the one not requiring sitting out a year. AG said something to the effect that would be a mistake because if it was easier to transfer some may leave after a tough year where they did not get any PT, like him. I believe in AG's days, it was not uncommon for players to ride the bench a year or two before getting major PT. i read that and thought that he didn't understand what was happening in the transfer world, that many were transferring to upgrade.

The second was the discussion of the Svoboda situation and comparing it to Meachum leaving. It was okay for Svoboda to leave but why was Meachum vilified? Made me think, how things were different when Meachum left. there were less transfers. For the most part, UD has benefited from the transfer up. Meachum is the only loss that I can remember. All the transfers out of UD were transfers down.

Major college sports have just become big business. That is what makes the UMBC and Loyola Chicago stories so great. They spend a whole lot less on their programs but got some great results. I would love to see the NBA change their rules to eliminate the one and dones. I also think the sponsor of teams by Nike, Under Armour, etc. needs to change. It may be pollyannaish but I would like to see a swing back to true student athletes, not semi pros.
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Meachum is the only loss that I can remember. All the transfers out of UD were transfers down.
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I hear you, CE80. I remember seeing Duke play in the 1978 championship game as an “upstart” (before K arrived). It was a surprise, because the program had been in the dumps for about 10 years prior, but their nucleus of Jim Spanarkel, Mike Gminski, and Gene Banks (all guys who went to Duke because of academics as well as basketball) was good enough to propel them into the championship game against a highly-favored, senior-laden Kentucky squad that featured “Goose” Givens and Rick Robey.

That was 40 years ago. This year, both squads stood good chances of making another deep run in the tourney (and Duke may still make it), but they’re doing it on the strength of “one-and-done” players who are more reminiscent of the MonStars from “Space Jam” than great athletes who were also intelligent students, like Jim Spanarkel, Len Elmore, and Clark Kellogg (and I mentioned these 3 because you can tell by the way they speak that they learned a few things during their times at Duke, Maryland, and Ohio State).

At the risk of turning this into a political discussion (“Make America Great Again”), it’s easy to see why people remember the old days fondly, and would like to see certain elements from those days make a comeback in today’s society...and in today’s world of college basketball.
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Does anyone else think all of this transferring in college basketball is getting out of control?
Yes, it appears that way. But is it just our perception, or do the facts bear it out. Anyone know the facts? Comparing today to 25 years ago, no doubt. But has there been an increasing trend in the last ten years?

With all the decent players transferring out of lesser schools, if they do away with the year sitting out, then open the flood gates!
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The second was the discussion of the Svoboda situation and comparing it to Meachum leaving. It was okay for Svoboda to leave but why was Meachum vilified? Made me think, how things were different when Meachum left.
Meachum waited for several months after the season ended to announce he was leaving, which effectively made it very difficult for BG to find a replacement. It was also assumed that he used UD simply as a stopgap with every intention of transferring to Illinois at whatever time they offered him a scholarship. There is a big difference between the two situations.
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Yes, it appears that way. But is it just our perception, or do the facts bear it out. Anyone know the facts? Comparing today to 25 years ago, no doubt. But has there been an increasing trend in the last ten years?

With all the decent players transferring out of lesser schools, if they do away with the year sitting out, then open the flood gates!
I do not have stats so perhaps it is perception but I'm willing to put some money on it that there are more transfers this year than 10 years ago and even five years ago.
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From an Indy Star article in Nov 2017:
According to the NCAA, about 40 percent of Division I players leave their first school by end of sophomore year. Percentage of players transferring from one four-year school to another increased from 9.4 in 2003-04 to 13.8 in 2013-14, according to Sports Illustrated and the NCAA. That represents a 47 percent increase. The figure dipped slightly last year.
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Forgot about that. It ended up being true but that was not his motivation and I’m not so sure he wasn’t told to leave. Remember he originally was going to go to Penn St. now that may be a transfer up
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From an Indy Star article in Nov 2017:
According to the NCAA, about 40 percent of Division I players leave their first school by end of sophomore year. Percentage of players transferring from one four-year school to another increased from 9.4 in 2003-04 to 13.8 in 2013-14, according to Sports Illustrated and the NCAA. That represents a 47 percent increase. The figure dipped slightly last year.
I am not understanding this stat, 40% of D1 players leave their D1 school by the end of year 2? That would mean at the average school a two year class of 7 kids would have 3 leaving in year one or two.
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I just copied from the article. Here it is: https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ase/686784001/
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I just copied from the article. Here it is: https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ase/686784001/
Thanks. That article is an eye opener. It seems up until this year UD has been lucky/good to not lose more players, or the law of averages finally caught up with us.
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I just copied from the article. Here it is: https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ase/686784001/
Thanks for the article. It was a good read. It was interesting that they mentioned Jordan Sibert transferring from Ohio State and Vee Sanford from Georgetown being instrumental in Dayton's elite eight run.
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Interesting grad transfer name to watch... guard originally out of Chicago.

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I’m told Miles Reynolds has been granted his release from Pacific. Will be eligible as a grad transfer and also intends to explore options professionally. Reynolds began his career at Saint Louis, and averaged 13.3 points, 2.6 rebounds and 2.8 assists this season.
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Look for Dayton to get involved with one or both of these Oklahoma transfers. Andy Ferrell was quick to follow them on Twitter.

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I wonder what really went on at Oklahoma this year? Lon Kruger is a great coach whose teams exude discipline... until Trey Young showed up.... Now Young is a GREAT talent, but he showed less than zero discipline in his game.... would love to hear from an inside source.
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I wonder what really went on at Oklahoma this year? Lon Kruger is a great coach whose teams exude discipline... until Trey Young showed up.... Now Young is a GREAT talent, but he showed less than zero discipline in his game.... would love to hear from an inside source.
I'm sure there were external "influences" at play. Sports Ill had an ill-timed story on him just as OU began their descent. Even though he grew up in Norman, OU was not high on mom and dad's (Rayford, who played at Texas Tech) list. Duke and Kansas were more to their liking. But Trey grew up going to OU games and OU is where he wanted to play. Pure speculation but I bet Trey started listening more to dad's coaching than Lon Kruger's.
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Stats matter some. But size and weight do also. We need 1 to 2 Bigs.

And probably another point.


Please consider posting players height when speaking about transfers.
Hearing about 25 6 foot 3 guys or 5 "11 guards isn't rocking my world. Would get more piqued if we knew more is all.

We don't need 3 more of the SAME type of player (SG /SF specifically).
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I agree we could use a couple bigs, but I just hope we get a couple commitments of any kind before everybody on this board goes crazy. We need something real to talk about!
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Stats matter some. But size and weight do also. We need 1 to 2 Bigs.

And probably another point.


Please consider posting players height when speaking about transfers.
Hearing about 25 6 foot 3 guys or 5 "11 guards isn't rocking my world. Would get more piqued if we knew more is all.

We don't need 3 more of the SAME type of player (SG /SF specifically).
It depends on what kind of system AG wants to run. If he wants to play a fast pace with high intensity D, then a traditional big is hard to fit into that. Having 4 athletic guys running the floor doesn't help if Sean Finn is trailing behind. And that's not hating on Sean. Just saying it depends on what AG wants to do.
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Look for Dayton to get involved with one or both of these Oklahoma transfers. Andy Ferrell was quick to follow them on Twitter.

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Oklahoma G Kameron McGusty (SO) has requested his release to transfer. http://verbalcommits.com/players/kameron-mcgusty

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Oklahoma G Jordan Shepherd (SO) has requested his release to transfer. http://verbalcommits.com/players/jordan-shepherd
Shepherd is not much, but McGusty is a 6'5" shooting guard, who was a top recruit and can score. He has two years left. He would be a great get, but the TX kid may be above our pay grade.
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Very, very interesting. Number 11 assist rate in the country, per KenPom. I have to think Anthony Grant would be very interested in reconnecting.
Honestly as nice as the JUCOs sound I'd take this guy over one of them
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Do we know why he left Alabama?
I did a little reading on him. He was a very high profile commit for Anthony Grant, the No. 45 overall player and No. 1 in-state recruit in the class of 2014. A big time get for AG, who would be fired a year later.

So new coach, Avery Johnson enters the picture. Coleman stays and he really played well in his sophomore campaign. He scored a career-high 24 against Oregon that year, an eventual No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. He also scored 21 against LSU in a big road win. However, he definitely had some poor games mixed in, including when he played against Dayton that year, scoring 3 points on 1-5 shooting with 1 assist and 3 turnovers.

But as a junior Coleman was almost assuredly going to lose minutes to Dazon Ingram, who was limited to 7 games that year due to injury. And then he was also going to have to compete with the coaches kid, Avery Johnson, Jr. who had sat out the previous year as a transfer in from Texas A&M. So he really kind of got forced out.

Coleman decides his best option is to transfer to Samford, the hometown school. Supposedly, they play more of the up tempo, run and gun style that Grant's teams were known for.
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Syracuse sophomore Matthew Moyer announces he's transferring. Averaged 3.2 points and 3.4 rebounds this season. Should have three years of eligibility after redshirting last year.

6'8 Forward from the Columbus area
He could be a good get. Great size. And a lot of potential as evidenced by an 18 point, 8 rebound game against UCONN at Madison Square Garden.

The one blemish on this kid is a bizarre incident in which Boeheim called his family out in a press conference saying he couldn't play Moyer in a game because he had a bad ankle and his dad didn't want him to play. https://www.nunesmagician.com/2018/3...nament-boeheim

A meddling father is no good (see Staten, Juwan) but Boeheim will whine and complain about pretty much anything and everything so I don't know what to think, except of course that I really despise Jim Boeheim.
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Potential Transfer to possibly watch out for... Youngstown State 6'6" G Braun Hartfield out of Cleveland and played at Garfield Heights

Sit out 1, play 2.

http://www.ysusports.com/sports/mbkb...eld_braun_6ue1

Why? He recently followed Farrell, Matt Schwade and most importantly followed UD BBall's twitter today sometime

I have always said... Fill 4 and I would definitely take a sit out transfer.
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Samford G Justin Coleman (RS JR) has requested his release to transfer. Grad transfer with one year of eligibility.

Played for Anthony Grant his freshman year at Alabama. 13.5 ppg & 6.6 assists per game while shooting .373% from 3

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...justin-coleman
I like the fact that he shot 81% from the free throw line this past season at Samford (83-103) and 89% in his sophomore year at Alabama (73-82).

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Moyer I guess did legitimately hurt is ankle this year. Boeheim is a jerk off and has a pretty tight rotation. So falling out favor there with the guys they having coming back at forward and Bazley the McDonald's AA from Cincy at forward so I could see him getting pushed out of the picture.

Moyer was the 66th player in country out of high school per 247 and had a boatload of big offers from places
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Youngstown State G Braun Hartfield (SO) is leaving the program. http://verbalcommits.com/players/braun-hartfield

13.6 points per game...Led the Horizon League with 54 steals and 1.7 steals per game...Dished out 84 assists and averaged 4.3 rebounds per game...Scored in double figures 22 times and had eight games of 20 or more points
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Potential Transfer to possibly watch out for... Youngstown State 6'6" G Braun Hartfield out of Cleveland and played at Garfield Heights

Sit out 1, play 2.

http://www.ysusports.com/sports/mbkb...eld_braun_6ue1

Why? He recently followed Farrell, Matt Schwade and most importantly followed UD BBall's twitter today sometime

I have always said... Fill 4 and I would definitely take a sit out transfer.
He lead the Horizon League in steals, good size, good #s

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...raun-hartfield

Had good games against Butler and Depaul this year in OOC. Youngstown State is a bad team and the Horizon league is bad league now but he put up numbers on the Wright St and Northern Kentucky the 2 best teams in the league.

Didn't do much against Indiana. He was a recruit of the prior coach and YSU hired a Huggins disciple who wants to run a Press Virginia style system there

Numbers went down at the end of the year or he'd have had even better year stats wise
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He lead the Horizon League in steals, good size, good #s

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...raun-hartfield

Had good games against Butler and Depaul this year in OOC. Youngstown State is a bad team and the Horizon league is bad league now but he put up numbers on the Wright St and Northern Kentucky the 2 best teams in the league.

Didn't do much against Indiana. He was a recruit of the prior coach and YSU hired a Huggins disciple who wants to run a Press Virginia style system there

Numbers went down at the end of the year or he'd have had even better year stats wise
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You think one transfer only?
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You think one transfer only?
I'm Saying I want to use 4 guys that can play next year (HS, JuCo or Grad) and then I would be willing to use the last one on a guy that has to sit out a year.
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I'm Saying I want to use 4 guys that can play next year (HS, JuCo or Grad) and then I would be willing to use the last one on a guy that has to sit out a year.
I'd like two sit outs, a guy in the front court and someone at guard.

I'd love to the roll the dice on a guy like Matt Moyer
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Syracuse sophomore Matthew Moyer announces he's transferring. Averaged 3.2 points and 3.4 rebounds this season. Should have three years of eligibility after redshirting last year.

6'8 Forward from the Columbus area
Wouldn't he have two years left after a sit out year? He has been at Syracuse two years, one year sit out and two years remaining. I suppose he could ask for a sixth year but that isn't assured.
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Wouldn't he have two years left after a sit out year? He has been at Syracuse two years, one year sit out and two years remaining. I suppose he could ask for a sixth year but that isn't assured.
yeah, looking at the guy got it wrong. He wasn't hurt his 1st year

Need an injury to get the sixth year
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Here's a guy who could be a grad transfer, Kameron Chatman for Detroit Mercy. 6'9 Forward who spent his first two years at Michigan. Put up 17.8ppg, 8.3 boards and 2.1 assists last year. Shot 41% from 3

He's testing the waters with the NBA draft right now but his dad was an assistant on the Detroit staff that just got canned today
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Here's a guy who could be a grad transfer, Kameron Chatman for Detroit Mercy. 6'9 Forward who spent his first two years at Michigan. Put up 17.8ppg, 8.3 boards and 2.1 assists last year. Shot 41% from 3

He's testing the waters with the NBA draft right now but his dad was an assistant on the Detroit staff that just got canned today
Thanks for the info, OSU Flyer. He might be a good target. Solid stats, and after seeing the P5 and the low majors, maybe he’s ready for something in between.
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I don't remember him doing anything at Michigan. Maybe lhsgolf19 has thoughts on him
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Kameron put up some very strong numbers the second half of the season after riding the pine for two years at Michigan. It could be his game is blowing up. If so, the timing, size, and skill set would be an ideal fit. It appears he can shoot the ball from outside as well as power it into the paint. Kameron is the player X could have been.
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I don't remember him doing anything at Michigan. Maybe lhsgolf19 has thoughts on him
Didn't really do anything but one thing he did was this

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