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Old 08-12-2018, 09:26 PM
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John Crosby headed to Delaware State

Best of luck to him. Seemed like a very good guy, and I wish him nothing but success.
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Old 08-13-2018, 04:57 AM
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Probably a better competition level for his skill sets. Best wishes for your future, John Crosby.
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Old 08-13-2018, 09:12 AM
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Delaware State also just hired a new head coach at the end of July.
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Good luck, John! You always played hard as a Flyer!
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best of luck John, wish you well!
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If Crosby is just now signing then it continues to give me hope for the last scholarship available at Dayton. We still have until 08/21 which is the last day for registration for the fall classes. Dayton needs someone who can get rebound to be inserted into the roster. If Cunningham goes down by fouling out or, forbid, by injury then our rebounder will be a guard by the name of Landers. Also, we all agree that Cunningham is a beast. But, at 6’6” plus a little, he will be giving up 3 to 4 inches in leverage every night. There must be a guy, in a situation like Crosby, out there who can rebound.
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:36 AM
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Wish him all the best. He maintained a positive attitude throughout.
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If Crosby is just now signing then it continues to give me hope for the last scholarship available at Dayton. We still have until 08/21 which is the last day for registration for the fall classes. Dayton needs someone who can get rebound to be inserted into the roster. If Cunningham goes down by fouling out or, forbid, by injury then our rebounder will be a guard by the name of Landers. Also, we all agree that Cunningham is a beast. But, at 6’6” plus a little, he will be giving up 3 to 4 inches in leverage every night. There must be a guy, in a situation like Crosby, out there who can rebound.
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Because Toppin can't rebound? Or Policelli?
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Because Toppin can't rebound? Or Policelli?
Agreed. We are never in a position to lose a significant piece and be able to recover easily but I probably feel more comfortable losing Cunningham than Crutcher.
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Best of luck to Crosby, seems like a great kid. Put the blame on Archie and whoever recruited him because he just wasn't at this level of talent.
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Best of luck to Crosby, seems like a great kid. Put the blame on Archie and whoever recruited him because he just wasn't at this level of talent.
This is pure speculation. Neither you nor anyone else on this board has any idea how Crosby would have done over his final 2 years if Archie was still the coach.

Get your junk post out of here.

And there are so many posters that just love to kick the man while he is down. Lay off.
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Wait, isn't Delaware St a D1 team? Another school who will not listen to the Pride posters who say Crosby is not a D1 player.
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I really liked Crosby’s demeanor — always smiling, always playing hard. Good kid. But I don’t think it does him a disservice to say he wasn’t cutting it. True, we don’t know how he would have developed his final year under Archie or Grant, but it’s fair to say both coaches had already recruited over him (Archie with McKinley Wright and AG with Jalen Crutcher). That speaks volumes. But I do hope he plays like gangbusters at Delaware State. He deserves a good showing his senior year.

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Wait, isn't Delaware St a D1 team? Another school who will not listen to the Pride posters who say Crosby is not a D1 player.


Technically D1, but far from ever being relevant in D1 basketball.
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This is pure speculation. Neither you nor anyone else on this board has any idea how Crosby would have done over his final 2 years if Archie was still the coach.

Get your junk post out of here.

And there are so many posters that just love to kick the man while he is down. Lay off.
While you on the other hand can't resist a backhanded slap at AG. It was evident when John was an underslassman that he was struggling to play at the level the Flyers expected, it continued through his junior year. Great kid, good attitude, just was a bit in over his head. Should do pretty well at DSU.
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Crosby was terrible, really terrible. Archie couldn't help him, John Wooden couldn't. Not in two years, not in ten! He just did not have the talent.
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Because Toppin can't rebound? Or Policelli?
TXFlyerFan: i believe, based upon past game time experience, our two strongest rebounders are Cunningham and Landers. All reports that i have read are that Landers has hit the weights effectively during the summer. Based upon information shared, Policelli has an outside shooting game plus his light physical weight gives the expectation that he will not focus his skillset on rebounding. Toppin is the unknown since he played very little actual playing time in high school and grown physically over the last two years. Those on this board who have actually seen him in practice, please share a definition of his game? Let’s all hope, that Toppin is the missing rebounder to spell Cunningham. But based upon Toppin’s very light playing time experience in high school to saddle Toppin with the expectation that he will be a double digit (10 or more) rebounder may be too high of an expectation. That may be unfair to him. This year will be his freshman D1 year.
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I actually think John will be a major contributor at Delaware. Square peg in square hole. A good fit for him.
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I really liked Crosby’s demeanor — always smiling, always playing hard. Good kid. But I don’t think it does him a disservice to say he wasn’t cutting it. True, we don’t know how he would have developed his final year under Archie or Grant, but it’s fair to say both coaches had already recruited over him (Archie with McKinley Wright and AG with Jalen Crutcher). That speaks volumes. But I do hope he plays like gangbusters at Delaware State. He deserves a good showing his senior year.
Ditto... well said.
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I really liked Crosby’s demeanor — always smiling, always playing hard. Good kid. But I don’t think it does him a disservice to say he wasn’t cutting it. True, we don’t know how he would have developed his final year under Archie or Grant, but it’s fair to say both coaches had already recruited over him (Archie with McKinley Wright and AG with Jalen Crutcher). That speaks volumes. But I do hope he plays like gangbusters at Delaware State. He deserves a good showing his senior year.
I generally agree with Bucketnight, but want to add the following observation. It’s obvious that Archie recruited over Crosby, given Wright’s standing coming out of HS. However, regarding Coach Grant, it’s possible he was looking for someone to both challenge Crosby and be groomed to take his place, given that Crosby had already quit on him once, and Grant was probably looking for anyone who could compete at the D-I level at that point in the recruiting.

All that said, I’m extremely happy to have Crutch at the point, I want him to do as well as the last guy who saw significant minutes as a Frosh PG, and I hope Crosby has a great season for Delaware State in 2019-20.
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The MEAC is not a powerhouse conference. Hampton usually leads the pack and Coppin State has had its share of success so maybe Delaware State may improve and be in the mix for the conference championship. I wish John Crosby well at his new school for his senior year.
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Crosby was terrible, really terrible. Archie couldn't help him, John Wooden couldn't. Not in two years, not in ten! He just did not have the talent.
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I’m not a fan of guys dogging Delaware St. They’re relevant in their conference. I’d bet most of us on this board couldn’t get a full ride to play hoops at one of them. If seeing the best of the best is your thing, watch the NBA. I wish Crosby well. The kid gave it his all here and I’ll bet he’s a stand out player.
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This is pure speculation. Neither you nor anyone else on this board has any idea how Crosby would have done over his final 2 years if Archie was still the coach.

Get your junk post out of here.

And there are so many posters that just love to kick the man while he is down. Lay off.
Well, go ahead and prognosticate there, Miss Cloe. We only know what we know and what we saw and the kid simply struggled at this level for this particular team under two vastly different systems. Great kid, smart kid, excellent student, heck of a son, good friend, excellent boyfriend and might even make a great pancake, but a terrible player for UD. Hope he logs lots of mpg and plays well..
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This is pure speculation. Neither you nor anyone else on this board has any idea how Crosby would have done over his final 2 years if Archie was still the coach.

Get your junk post out of here.

And there are so many posters that just love to kick the man while he is down. Lay off.
Sorry your butt hurts. I am not kicking a man when he's down. I made a point to say I thought he was a good kid.

I am pretty darn sure most people know exactly how Crosby would have fared if Archie stayed and it wouldn't be much different than where we are today. Lighten up Francis.
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I don't understand the need to tear the kid down. I have my opinion of how we would have progressed with or without a coaching change, but he's gone and it doesn't matter. At this point, why not either wish him good luck or just don't say anything at all? What good comes out of bashing him?
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I don't understand the need to tear the kid down. I have my opinion of how we would have progressed with or without a coaching change, but he's gone and it doesn't matter. At this point, why not either wish him good luck or just don't say anything at all? What good comes out of bashing him?
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Good luck to you Mr. Crosby, i was frequently disappointed but never stopped rooting for him. I'll be rooting for Delaware State the year after this one
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If Crosby is just now signing then it continues to give me hope for the last scholarship available at Dayton. We still have until 08/21 which is the last day for registration for the fall classes. Dayton needs someone who can get rebound to be inserted into the roster. If Cunningham goes down by fouling out or, forbid, by injury then our rebounder will be a guard by the name of Landers. Also, we all agree that Cunningham is a beast. But, at 6’6” plus a little, he will be giving up 3 to 4 inches in leverage every night. There must be a guy, in a situation like Crosby, out there who can rebound.
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As you stated above, Crosby's signing gives you hope that we could fill the last scholarship available for 2018 with a big that could relieve Cunningham to rebound and score if needed providing they transfer by 8/21 and register for fall classes.
So, I went to the 2018 transfer thread and on page 3 it gives a complete list by position and shows whether a player has to sit or whether they are a grad or a RS and are immediately eligible! There are still about 14 bigs with immediate eligibility. I went to you tube to see if any of them had potential to be of help to us for one season!

The two players that I liked the most were Red Shirt seniors Ibrahim Sylla, 6'8" 220lbs from Northern Colorado and Brent Hibbitts, 6'8" 210lbs from Michigan. Hibbitts was a teammate of Ibi Watson last season so AG could ask Watson for his opinion and Sylla, who can jump out of the gym, is a great rebounder who loves to dunk the ball and was a big star coming out of high school. Check out his you tube videos! He would be great for one years service in 2018 to be in the mix with Obi and Frankie!
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If Crosby is just now signing then it continues to give me hope for the last scholarship available at Dayton. We still have until 08/21 which is the last day for registration for the fall classes. Dayton needs someone who can get rebound to be inserted into the roster. If Cunningham goes down by fouling out or, forbid, by injury then our rebounder will be a guard by the name of Landers. Also, we all agree that Cunningham is a beast. But, at 6’6” plus a little, he will be giving up 3 to 4 inches in leverage every night. There must be a guy, in a situation like Crosby, out there who can rebound.
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As you stated above, Crosby's signing gives you hope that we could fill the last scholarship available for 2018 with a big that could relieve Cunningham to rebound and score if needed providing they transfer by 8/21 and register for fall classes.
So, I went to the 2018 transfer thread and on page 3 it gives a complete list by position and shows whether a player has to sit or whether they are a grad or a RS and are immediately eligible! There are still about 14 bigs with immediate eligibility. I went to you tube to see if any of them had potential to be of help to us for one season!

The two players that I liked the most were senior grad transfers Ibrahim Sylla, 6'8" 220lbs from Northern Colorado and Brent Hibbitts, 6'8" 210lbs from Michigan. Hibbitts was a teammate of Ibi Watson last season so AG could ask Watson for his opinion and Sylla, who can jump out of the gym, is a great rebounder who loves to dunk the ball and was a big star coming out of high school. Check out his you tube videos! He would be great for one years service in 2018 to be in the mix with Obi and Frankie!

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CvilleFlyer: Thank you for the information on these two guys. This seems to be a good example that there are still kids available given the new age of transfers.
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There have been a handful of players that didn't live up to expectations here for one reason or another and went separate ways. Happens every year, every conference, every division. Regardless of decisions made to stay or go, kid was a Flyer and didn't do anything to tarnish the program while he was here. Hope he does well and finds his place.
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CvilleFlyer: Thank you for the information on these two guys. This seems to be a good example that there are still kids available given the new age of transfers.
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Sorry for the double post. I don’t know how that happened. Maybe I’m just showing my age! Yes, you are right there are grad transfers out there who would like to contribute at other schools but it has to be the right fit. I am sure that Anthony Grant and his staff have evaluated all of them and they would most probably be here by now if they could blend in. We wouldn’t want to make the mistake of bringing in another Jordan Pierce! That is why I am happy that they brought Jordy in for 2019. He looks like a real good fit!
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Crosby had head problems. He was quick enough (but not quick), he was strong enough (but not strong), he could shoot well enough (but not great), but he was always just a square peg in a round hole.

I'm just saying I understand that he wasn't going to be all A10, but he underperformed the skill he does have. I think it was between the ears not from the neck down.
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There a difference between trashing the kid for no reason and telling it how it is. He's not good enough for UD basketball period. It's just the facts and has nothing to do about feeling better about themselves. I could argue your post is striving for the same 'feeling' trying to feel better about yourself with your holier than though attitude.


That said, I have nothing against him and hope he does well at d. st. I think the speed of the conference will be a little slower and could help him greatly. He kind of had a spastic style and under fast pressure it really hindered him.
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Crosby had head problems. He was quick enough (but not quick), he was strong enough (but not strong), he could shoot well enough (but not great), but he was always just a square peg in a round hole.

I'm just saying I understand that he wasn't going to be all A10, but he underperformed the skill he does have. I think it was between the ears not from the neck down.
Simple case of the body being too quick for the mind.....He committed himself in the air way too much with nobody to pass the ball to..There were close to a handful of games in his career where he looked pretty good for a few minute stretch but the consistency for some reason just never happened..
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why cant the ones being critical of him, add 7 words to their post: But I do wish you well, John....

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why cant the ones being critical of him, add 7 words to their post: But I do wish you well, John....

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Sure, I wish him well. Also wish the many who constantly supported him as the real deal, would man up and say "I was really, really wrong" .
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Sure, I wish him well. Also wish the many who constantly supported him as the real deal, would man up and say "I was really, really wrong" .
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I thought when he returned, he would have an elevated game, playing with a chip on his shoulder so to speak.. But, it did not turn out that way, and his numbers are history.. so yes, I was wrong... but he always game hustle and tried his best, it did not turn into performance for the most part..

but, I would much rather have someone trying their level best and not quite getting the results.. than others who would not buy into Coach Grant and for whatever reason - snub the team concept: leave practice early because of a sore throat... or: joke with each other on the bench and share laughs, when the team is getting beat by over 20 points...

I appreciate his effort absolutely, and hope this works out for him... thanks for the effort John, I wish you well...
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JC may want to reconsider his transfer to Delaware State -or- maybe this is why he chose DSU?

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JC may want to reconsider his transfer to Delaware State -or- maybe this is why he chose DSU?

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/47990/
This link was at the bottom of that article. I find it even funnier.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/26398/
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JC may want to reconsider his transfer to Delaware State -or- maybe this is why he chose DSU?

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If they don't allow any snowballs how are the snowflakes going to grow?
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If they don't allow any snowballs how are the snowflakes going to grow?
'Snowballs' is offensive. Please refer to them as snowspheres. It's easier than buying a comfort pigmy pony.
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You mean just like our defense last year? I loved them too!! But......
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You mean just like our defense last year? I loved them too!! But......
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'Snowballs' is offensive. Please refer to them as snowspheres. It's easier than buying a comfort pigmy pony.
Just curious, do snowballs have white privilege? I get confused in the post modern neo-Marxist world we live in.
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This link was at the bottom of that article. I find it even funnier.

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A handful of my friends and I created a “sculpture” like that outside Stuart Hall during a snowstorm that happened in the winter of 1980-81. Made it @ 7’ tall, and even used dead wood from the underbrush next to D Lot as, well, you know.

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Please refer to it as a "heavy earth moving machine."

"Bull"dozer is a remnant of a mysoginistic time when only male cows were considered strong enough to work while the female cows we kept safely in the pasture, good for only 1 thing (2 things in West Virginia).
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