All-Time Favorites

jumpin' joe · #1 02-15-2014, 01:58 PM

This topic is probably more for the old-timers. Wondering who are your all-time favorite Flyers (Men's Basketball) that you watched play? I can go all the way back to the early 60s. Your all-time favorites don't have to be who you think were the best players. They can be for any reason. In fact, I'd be curious to read some of your reasoning. Okay, I'll go first.

1) Don May - Obvious choice, but I just loved him as a player and he's a wonderful person.
2) Sedric Toney - Mr. Tough.
3) Damon Goodwin - Played with such heart.
4) Chris Wright - So fun and exciting to watch.
5 tie) Donald Smith and Mike Sylvester - I have so many good memories of that '74 team. Hard to leave off Johnny Davis.
7) Ryan Perryman - Did anybody work harder around the basket?
8) Garry Roggenburk - My first favorite player.
9) Roosevelt Chapman - He's quite the character and charmer.
10) Chris Johnson - Always did whatever it took to win.

TommyGola · #2 02-15-2014, 02:28 PM

Great start Jumpin' Joe, but you forgot:

1. Bill Uhl Sr. - All American
2. Arlen "Bucky" Bockhorn

Crunk Juice · #3 02-15-2014, 02:53 PM

Brian Roberts

Still can't help but wonder what might have been his Senior year if Chris Wright would not have missed the second half of the season.

toledodan · #4 02-15-2014, 02:58 PM

chris daniels.

Flyer 79 · #5 02-15-2014, 03:11 PM

My intro to UD starts in '75, so I'll start with my two alltime favorites from that team:
1. Jim Paxson Jr: Admired his fundamentals, and watching his constant motion without the ball was worth price of admission.
2. Johnny Davis: Quickness, leaping ability, exciting.
3. Chris Wright: Explosive, athletic, entertaining.
4. Roosevelt Chapman: A tweener who could score against any size defender.
5. Chris Johnson: A gamer, nose for the ball.

BOF02 · #6 02-15-2014, 03:20 PM

Even though I was at UD when Roger Brown, Gordie Hatton and Bill Chmlewski were there my favorite player was Gary Roggenburk. He was so smooth with all his move on the court. He had a 2 hand set shot from outside and he shot his foul shots two handed. I even learned to shoot the two hand set shot.

Gilchrist's Autograph 2 · #7 02-15-2014, 03:47 PM

Started watching in 1995 and my favorites (not necessarily the best) are:
Mark Jones
Keith Waleskowski
Brian Roberts
Ryan Perriman
London Warren
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rollo · #8 02-15-2014, 04:13 PM

Erv Giddings...I always wanted to be Erv Giddings...it's still fun to say 'Erv Giddings'...and I always wanted his 'fro and loved his desire to dunk everything.

Flyer 79 · #9 02-15-2014, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by rollo

Erv Giddings...I always wanted to be Erv Giddings...it's still fun to say 'Erv Giddings'...and I always wanted his 'fro and loved his desire to dunk everything.

That had to be frustrating for Erv because I believe the dunk was outlawed in college until 76-77 season ... which meant the big guy couldn't flush it his first few seasons.

ChampCar · #10 02-15-2014, 04:43 PM

Johnny Davis

For those of you who haven't seen this before, here is Bill Walton's view of him:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?id=1678129

rollo · #11 02-15-2014, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Flyer 79

That had to be frustrating for Erv because I believe the dunk was outlawed in college until 76-77 season ... which meant the big guy couldn't flush it his first few seasons.

If I recall he got T'd up as a sophomore when he 'accidentally' dunked against someone. Erv was a man's man...if you didn't love him, you couldn't love anyone.

Swampy Meadows · #12 02-15-2014, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by rollo

If I recall he got T'd up as a sophomore when he 'accidentally' dunked against someone.

It was against Dickie V and the Detoit Titans at the Arena. Erv knew everybody on the other side and wanted to make a statement. Mickey was not pleased. When I brought that dunk up to Johnny Davis he LOLed.

runnerup · #13 02-15-2014, 05:43 PM

When I was a kid it was Donald Smith. If memory serves he shot free throws during the entire DD tv show. When show was over they said he had made 100 straight. They cut to him through out the show to check on progress. Anyone else remember?

Glen Clark · #14 02-15-2014, 05:47 PM

My top ten, in order:

1) Jim Paxson
2) Roosevelt Chapman
3) Don May
4) Ryan Perryman
5) Chris Wright
6) Johnny Davis
7) Dave Colbert
8) Keith Waleskowski
9) Donald Smith
10) Henry Finkel
10) Charles Little

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jumpin' joe · #15 02-15-2014, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by TommyGola

Great start Jumpin' Joe, but you forgot:

1. Bill Uhl Sr. - All American
2. Arlen "Bucky" Bockhorn

Two of the best, but I never saw them play so they didn't make my list.

jumpin' joe · #16 02-15-2014, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by rollo

Erv Giddings...I always wanted to be Erv Giddings...it's still fun to say 'Erv Giddings'...and I always wanted his 'fro and loved his desire to dunk everything.

I liked Erv too, but he dropped off the "favorite" list for "things" he did after UD.
http://amarillo.com/stories/092102/tex_truckers.shtml

Smitty10 · #17 02-15-2014, 07:33 PM

1. Donald Smith
2. Velvet Chapman
3. Hank Finkel
4. Don May
5. Johnny Davis
6. Bobby Joe Hooooooooooooper
7. Negele Knight
8. Sedric Toney
9. B-Rob
10. Ramod Marshall
11. George Janky
12. Jim Paxon
13. Mike Sylvester
14. Ryan Perryman
15. Chris Johnson
16. Dan Obravic
17. Dan Sadlier
18. Damon Goodwin
19. Mike Kaniski(sp?)
20. Allan Elijah

udx2 · #18 02-15-2014, 07:39 PM

1. Don May for several reasons. He made me a Flyers fan and, this may sound strange, but following him made me consider UD. He was unbelievable in our run to the Final 2.
2. Jim Paxson. If only because I saw so many of his games.
3. Bucky. Because he is and will always be Bucky. Many nights straining to listen to UD games over the decades and he was my link.
4. B Rob. Still following him. Carried the team on his back at times. That win at Miami remains one of the guttiest comebacks of all time.
5. Chris Wright. Because he is a class act and a great guy.

Cannot wait to see Flyers for the next few decades, God willing, and add to this list.

Jumping Joe, ask this question about every 10 years. Could be interesting.

Windy City Flyer · #19 02-15-2014, 08:28 PM

Chip Hare-----Now he was great player.

Actually, Negele Knight 8th in all time scoring. All time leader in assists.

I know that's loaded based on games played. He did avg 5.43 assist/game

Townie · #20 02-15-2014, 09:38 PM

Velvet
Donald Smith
Johnny Davis
Don May
Keith Walskowski
Nate Green
Dave Colbert

Fair34 · #21 02-15-2014, 11:33 PM

1 Don May
2 Donald Smith
Jim Paxson
Chris Wright
Brian Roberts
Jack Zimmerman
Negele Knight
Johnny Davis

skip69 · #22 02-16-2014, 12:07 AM

Roger Brown
Donald Smith
Bill Chemalewski (sp)
Jim Paxson
Bucky Bockhorn (my 1st favorite player ... used to listen to games with Hinkle and short corner shots with a tennis ball at a shoe box on a pillow on my bed ... Geez)
Gary Roggenburk
Dave Colbert
Tommy Hatton
Brian Roberts
Chris Wright
Ryan Perriman
Sedric Toney
Nigele Knight
Kevin Conrad (tough bird!)
Chris Johnson
London Warren

No specific order after 1st two

anthonycharles · #23 02-16-2014, 02:39 AM

I was watching a Pac-12 game about a month ago with Bill Walton commentating and he was rambling on (like he tends to do) and was talking about the best shooters of all time. He mentioned Roger Brown as of one of 6 or 7 names he was rambling off. I wasn't aware Brown was a great shooter. I've heard a lot about him, the shooting part was a surprise.

Smitty10 · #24 02-16-2014, 03:04 AM

Hey, I'm sure you can pick mine apart in the same way, and I really appreciate that you included KC on yours, I had him on mine but somehow had to drop him just out of my top 20. BUT, BUT seriously, how could a person who followed this team from Roggenberk to Chris Johnson, include Warren and fellow teammates Toney and KC, but leave off Velvet?

Help me understand.

Originally Posted by skip69

Roger Brown
Donald Smith
Bill Chemalewski (sp)
Jim Paxson
Bucky Bockhorn (my 1st favorite player ... used to listen to games with Hinkle and short corner shots with a tennis ball at a shoe box on a pillow on my bed ... Geez)
Gary Roggenburk
Dave Colbert
Tommy Hatton
Brian Roberts
Chris Wright
Ryan Perriman
Sedric Toney
Nigele Knight
Kevin Conrad (tough bird!)
Chris Johnson
London Warren

No specific order after 1st two

Class of 73 Alum · #25 02-16-2014, 05:55 AM

Donald Smith
Roosevelt Chapman
Johnny Davis
Chris Wright
Brian Roberts

BRob2Perryman3 · #26 02-16-2014, 09:53 AM

1st of all it is "PerrYman" not "PerrIman"

2nd of all, there must be alot of people who loved offensive fouls because Chris Wright committed alot of them.

Ive not been around long but my top ten in order

1. Ryan Perryman
2. Brian Roberts
3. Keith Waleskowski
4. Ramod Marshall
5. Chris Johnson
6. Mark Ashman
7. Sean Finn
8. Brooks Hall
9. Tony Stanley
10.Chris Daniels

FWIW, i came in the year after Negele, the same year Chip Jones was kicked off the team right after we played Arizona tight

tirebiter · #27 02-16-2014, 11:58 AM

How can everybody miss Bobby Joe Hooper?

He could single-handed break any press. Deadly at the line. Deadly shot within any crease. Little tough guy. Great Name.

Smitty10 · #28 02-16-2014, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by tirebiter

How can everybody miss Bobby Joe Hooper?

He could single-handed break any press. Deadly at the line. Deadly shot within any crease. Little tough guy. Great Name.

Not everybody, look up at my original post. Remember him putting away the NIT in 1968 with a broken finger on his shooting hand?

bobber · #29 02-16-2014, 12:46 PM

Man, I am lucky if I can remember my name, much less ten old Flyers.

I guess Kevin Conrad sticks out for me. Just a tough kid who ran the team well. Hey, how about the Hatton brothers? Or Chuck Izor, the "Pride of Eaton?"

number21 · #30 02-16-2014, 01:08 PM

1) Donnie May

2) Tie-all the rest of the boys to wear the Red and Blue

udflyerhoops2 · #31 02-16-2014, 01:11 PM

All these players brought something very special to their respective teams.

1.) Anthony Grant
2.) Andy Metlzer
3.) Norm Grevey
4.) Dan Christie
5.) Cain Daliboa
6.) Noland Robinson
7.) Ray Springer
8.) Ken Branch
9.) Steve Pittman
10.) Chris Daniels

longtimefan67 · #32 02-16-2014, 02:20 PM

1) Donald Smith; can you imagine how many point he'd have had their been a 3 point shot in the day? Seems like everything he made was beyond 20'. Fantastic player and according to Donoher "a much better person than he was a player". RIP Donald, I loved watching you as a kid.

2) Brian Roberts - gave it his all and robbed of NCAA appearance.
3) Jim Paxson Jr. - what couldn't he do?
4) Johnny Davis - was the glue of the 73-74 NCAA/UCLA game team.
5) Don May - enough said.
6) Dave Colbert - easily the best 2 year transfer to ever wear a UD uniform. RIP Dave, you left too early.
7) Mike Kanieski (spelling?) - tough forward, always making key plays.
8) Ryan Perryman - for what he did to put UD back on the basketball map. Every UD player should be shown highlight game reel of RP in action.
9) Kevin Conrad - behind Johnny Davis, maybe the 2nd best PG ever at Dayton, at least in terms of toughness.
10) Tie a) Chris Wright - for what he brought game in and game out b) Devin Oliver for about the same thing, also; I've never seen a UD player so upset at a loss to slam a basketball against the court. Donoher would say at that: "I don't mind poor losers, that means they wanted to win"

tirebiter · #33 02-16-2014, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Smitty10

Not everybody, look up at my original post. Remember him putting away the NIT in 1968 with a broken finger on his shooting hand?

Sorry Smitty - and yes, I do remember the broken finger and how he played through it. Remember when he got a concussion diving for a loose ball at Freedom Hall against Louisville? Don't know if that was 66-67 or 67-68.

May and Finkel were all americans, but Bobby Joe was the heart and soul of those teams.

He was a gutsy player who gave it everything he had every game. All game, every game.

And I like your spelling better. "Hooooooooper" I can still hear it over the PA system and on the radio.

Don · #34 02-16-2014, 04:42 PM

I think too many of the earlier Flyers are shortchanged by rankings in which folks who've only followed the Flyers for 25-30 years dominate the voting. I date back to the 50s and these are my all timers, in order of preference by position:

Center: Finkel, Meineke, Uhl Sr., G. Jackson
Forward: May, Roggenburk, Corbitt, Perryman
Forward: Chapman, Horan, Palmer, Colbert
Guard: Davis, Knight, Hooper, Toney
Guard: Paxson, Smith, Bockhorn, Sallee

Those were the days!

FlyerYouBetcha · #35 02-16-2014, 05:15 PM

The ones I liked at UD seeing them from '77 to '81, in order.

Velvet
Jim Paxson Jr.
Erv Giddings (the most intimidating-looking basketball player I've ever seen.)
Richard Montague
Mike Kanieski
Jack Zimmerman

Some pretty good players here, and not one year did they see the NCAA. Only NIT.

darrylskale · #36 02-16-2014, 06:34 PM

Long time Flyer fan, so my question I wish someone who is truthful would reply, Why is Erv Gidding not in the UD Hall of Fame??

Sea Bass · #37 02-16-2014, 06:36 PM

favorite to watch in person was easily Chapman. One of a kind. 6'4" yet could dominate a game from in the paint against much taller opponents.

Flyer68 · #38 02-16-2014, 08:13 PM

This is a fun post where no one argues with anyone and there are no wrong answers. It makes you think about all the good UD basketball times and remember names. As you can guess, I was there from 64 to 68. When we played Michigan (Cazzie Russell et als) in 65 regionals at Kentucky, we could not stay with Michigan but I think Finkel was the high scorer. They could not stop him. But we had a senior named, Denny Papp, "The Mad Bomber". This was before the three point shot and it was his job to come off the bench and shoot long range bombers to break a zone. Also I thought Hooper was about 6 foot 2 or three but he was a premier ball handler and one of top five guards in country. I think he lasted for 5+ years playing for Indiana Pacers. After 68 I did get to watch May with the Knicks in NYC>

jumpin' joe · #39 02-16-2014, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by darrylskale

Long time Flyer fan, so my question I wish someone who is truthful would reply, Why is Erv Gidding not in the UD Hall of Fame??

Erv certainly had the stats similar to some others in the HOF. It's possible he didn't graduate which is a requirement of the HOF. If you read my post earlier in this thread, you'll come to the conclusion that he will never be considered HOF material due to severe character issues.

jumpin' joe · #40 02-16-2014, 09:10 PM

Fifteen more (not so known) that didn't make my initial list...
1) Mike Brannen - He didn't play much, but a super nice guy from a huge family in Cincinnati. Got to know him when he worked at River Downs Race Track taking tickets during the summers.
2) Mike Leffel - His name is a palindrome.
3) Gordy Gahm - Had a true glass backboard in his driveway.
4) Leighton Moulton - Another great guy and a decent player too. I know he worked at Cargill for years.
5) Steve Lawrence - Okay...I'll admit it...I liked to make fun of him.
6) Dave Abel - My sister had a crush on him.
7) Jim Rhoden - Solid player. Quit the team to become a brick layer. Came back for another season, but left the team again.
8) Willie Johnson - 6' 8" forward that couldn't jump a lick.
9) Larry Schellenberg - Great defender. Perfect complimentary player to Chapman, Young, Toney, and Goodwin. He was the one that got the rebound from the third position at the foul lane that led to "The Shot" by Ed Young.
10) Anthony Grant - Pretty nice player, but even a better person. Total class.
11) Alex Robertson - The best set of defensive hands in UD history.
12) Maurice Beyina - The human foul machine.
13) Keith Braswell - He wasn't quite 5 foot tall. His shorts were to his ankles. Scored a total of 2 career points.
14) Mickey Perry - Just a regular guy. Super friendly.
15) Marco Pikaar - Story goes that we stole him away from Wright State. If you are going to steal, you should at least make it worth your while.

Flyer 86 · #41 02-16-2014, 09:31 PM

Started at UD in 82, so going by what I saw then, and then some live games on the road in the 90's and 00's.

Guards: K Conrad, super tough and perfect fit for Donohers offense and to feed guys like Chappy and Kanieski

K Dillard/B Roberts. Roberts was superstud. And if we could combine Dillard at his best along with Roberts shooting ability -- would be nice.

Toney: great shooter. Imagine if he had four year career here

Forwards: Chapman
Perryman
Waleskowski
Chris Wright

nothing to say about Chapman. He was just miraculous at his size. Superior body control and hands.

Perryman I only saw once live, and wish I could have seen him more. STUD rebounder. IF he had more teammates, we could say only if.

Keith W was somewhat inconsistent his senior year, but was a Playa. Got more out of his size and potential out of sheer effort. Loved his effort!

CW Superior athlete , with exciting hops and plays his first 3 years. Sadly injured early on, and no real compliments his senior year.
Centers: Sean Finn

all Defense: London Warren
Marcus Johnson, Larry Schellenberg
Wright, simply for blocks, rebounds and excitement
Kurt Huelsman,
Alex Robertson

Flyer 86 · #42 02-16-2014, 09:37 PM

Rankins with Guys I never saw but have read history and know about

Guards: Horan, Paxson, Johnny D, B Roberts, Hooper, Negele Knight, D Smith

Forwards: Don May, Chapman, Tony Stanley, Roggenburk, Perryman, Chris Johnson, Damon Goodman

Bigs: Uhl, Finkel, Waleskowski, Chris Daniels, Finn

DGO67 · #43 02-17-2014, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by number21

1) Donnie May

2) Tie-all the rest of the boys to wear the Red and Blue

Absolutely!!! The best combination of power and finesse ever to play at UD...with all due respect for Chapman.

Class of 73 Alum · #44 02-17-2014, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by FlyerYouBetcha

The ones I liked at UD seeing them from '77 to '81, in order.

Velvet
Jim Paxson Jr.
Erv Giddings (the most intimidating-looking basketball player I've ever seen.)
Richard Montague
Mike Kanieski
Jack Zimmerman

Some pretty good players here, and not one year did they see the NCAA. Only NIT.

This reference to intimidating players reminded me of George Jackson...anybody remember him? He really had some meat hooks, and could jump out of the gym. If i remember correctly he was a transfer and played 2 years at UD...probably 70 and 71 or maybe 71 and 72. Remember vividly storming the court after the Flyers beat Western Kentucky and their 7 foot all-american, Jim McDaniels and literally ran into Jackson, which immediately sent me flying on my kiester.

jack72 · #45 02-17-2014, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Class of 73 Alum

This reference to intimidating players reminded me of George Jackson...anybody remember him? He really had some meat hooks, and could jump out of the gym. If i remember correctly he was a transfer and played 2 years at UD...probably 70 and 71 or maybe 71 and 72. Remember vividly storming the court after the Flyers beat Western Kentucky and their 7 foot all-american, Jim McDaniels and literally ran into Jackson, which immediately sent me flying on my kiester.

Remember George well. A poor man's Chris Wright. Could jump and rebound and great heart, but no handle or outside shot.

westchesterflyer · #46 02-17-2014, 11:10 AM

Having graduated in '75, I have a soft spot for the '74 team. Therefore:
Donald Smith (my all-time #1)
Johnny Davis
Mike Sylvester
Allan Elijah
Joe Fischer
Jim Testerman

NYCFLYER · #47 02-17-2014, 11:28 AM

I know these guys played during the dark years but I always liked Darnell Hahn and Andy Meyer.

JimBo · #48 02-17-2014, 03:35 PM

1. Roosevelt Chapman - I didn't have to think twice about this one. He made creating shots out of nothing at all a habit. Velvet was such an appropriate nickname. The 1984-85 season will always be my favorite as a Flyer fan. The Velvet Man was the talk of the tournament. Just wish he could have taken his skills to the NBA.

2. Jim Paxson - The era when I really started becoming a mega fan, and Paxson was my first favorite player. He was one of the last of his kind, IMO. He was a pure basketball player who had to rely on that instead of any physical ability, something that just isn't heard of these days.

3. Chris Johnson - I admit, this choice has a lot to do with what he had done after his Flyer career. I remember telling my brother once during CJ's freshman year that I thought he would end up being a better overall player than Wright. I just loved his effort. His effort and desire often carried his team and always set the example. A great basketball player and even a better person.

After these, there are just too many to mention or rank. Just a few in no particular order.

-Brian Roberts - Simply unstoppable when he got in that zone.
-Damon Goodwin - One of the purest shooters ever to wear a Flyer uniform. Too bad he didn't play during the 3-point era.
- Ryan Perryman - Best "ungifted" rebounder I've ever seen, and I mean that in a good way.

- Ramod Marshall - Took over the point when nobody else could, and exceeded expectations.
- Chris Wright - The most physically talented athlete to ever wear a Flyer uniform. I still feel an NBA career is in his future.

UDBrian · #49 02-17-2014, 03:54 PM

One player I haven't seen mentioned is Chris Wright's uncle, JD Grigsby. Can someone tell me if he was a highlight reel player like Chris Wright?

jumpin' joe · #50 02-17-2014, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by UDBrian

One player I haven't seen mentioned is Chris Wright's uncle, JD Grigsby. Can someone tell me if he was a highlight reel player like Chris Wright?

Dunking was not allowed during the two years JD played for UD so no highlight reel for him. I do remember him as a solid rebounder even though he was undersized (6'4") at his position. If you ever get to talk to him in person, he is a very warm and genuine guy. JD is great!

Glen Clark · #51 02-17-2014, 04:35 PM

And where is Andy Gaydosh in this discussion?

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jumpin' joe · #52 02-17-2014, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Glen Clark

And where is Andy Gaydosh in this discussion?

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Andy is here:
http://www.andrewgaydosh.com/
and here:
http://youtu.be/dUE8I1W_rcQ

Flyer69ers · #53 02-17-2014, 05:25 PM

We graduated in '69 - UD Basketball was legendary - -
We have enjoyed ALL of the lists, and agree with them all. (Thanks for the memories)

This DDN Blog has the photo of the "Dan Obrovac Tip" in the NCAA Championship
game . . .

http://mo.daytondailynews.com/blogs/...n_obrovac.html

(you may have to scroll down in the article - but it's so worth it)
Still gives me chills.

jumpin' joe · #54 02-17-2014, 05:37 PM

The photo I would love to see again is Johnny Davis blocking a shot which was on the cover of the UD press guide in the 1975-76(?). Anybody have it or could scan a copy? I believe it was against Otis Birdsong and the Houston Cougars. Johnny's vertical was amazing.

Smitty10 · #55 02-17-2014, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by westchesterflyer

Having graduated in '75, I have a soft spot for the '74 team. Therefore:
Donald Smith (my all-time #1)
Johnny Davis
Mike Sylvester
Allan Elijah
Joe Fischer
Jim Testerman

You left off John Von Lehman? Center was a 2-headed monster for us that season because they would usually have 9 fouls between them if we were lucky at the end of the game.

Smitty10 · #56 02-17-2014, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Flyer69ers

We graduated in '69 - UD Basketball was legendary - -
We have enjoyed ALL of the lists, and agree with them all. (Thanks for the memories)

This DDN Blog has the photo of the "Dan Obrovac Tip" in the NCAA Championship
game . . .

http://mo.daytondailynews.com/blogs/...n_obrovac.html

(you may have to scroll down in the article - but it's so worth it)
Still gives me chills.

I had an ongoing debate with another guy I knew that Obrovac outjumped Alcindor in that game. He insisted it was Sadlier. Finally, I was hunting for some car insurance and ran across Obrovac an stopped in to purchase. After signing I said "hey, got a friend I've been arguing with and I say you outjumped Alcindor". Obvrovac pointed to the photo of him doing it. I laughed and said "great, I knew it, he say it was Sadlier". Obrovac stops me dead in my tracks and says "He's right, Sadlier did it too". Would love to see a photo of that.

Swampy Meadows · #57 02-17-2014, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by jumpin' joe

The photo I would love to see again is Johnny Davis blocking a shot which was on the cover of the UD press guide in the 1975-76(?). Johnny's vertical was amazing.

Don't have that one but this pic appeared in Street & Smith's. I sent a copy of it to Johnny after I told him about it when we spoke a few months ago

Piqua Flyer '66 · #58 02-17-2014, 09:28 PM

the best Flyer ever, not mentioned to this point, was Gordy Hatton.
He had a pattoned move.
Drive his man to the land,
freeze him,
and then hit the fade away semi jumper
AWESOME

Rick303 · #59 02-18-2014, 08:44 AM

1. Donnie May
2. Velvet
3. Ryan Perryman
4. Kevin Conrad....one tough lil sob.....
5. Donald Smith
6. Johnny Davis
7. Mike Sylvester
8. Jim Paxson
9. Bobby Jo Hooper....donnie mays Scottie Pippen
10. Anthony Corbitt

Honorable mention:
Keith Waleskowski
Mark Ashman
Brooks Hall
Brian Roberts
Shawn Haughn
Norm Grevey
Andy Meyer
Sam Howard
Chris Wright
CJ
Negele

jumpin' joe · #60 02-18-2014, 12:26 PM

Hey Swampy and others,

I found the Johnny Davis photo I was looking for and placed it in the Media Vault. The photo has to rank right up there with "The Shot" photo which happened 30 years ago today.

udflyerfan · #61 02-18-2014, 01:11 PM

From 1965 forward is my window and my jaw would drop every time Johnny Davis got the ball............devastating!!

Radar · #62 02-18-2014, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by rollo

If I recall he got T'd up as a sophomore when he 'accidentally' dunked against someone. Erv was a man's man...if you didn't love him, you couldn't love anyone.

He got that "T" for dunking on a breakaway. As soon as he crossed half court, Donoher was on his way to get a sub off the bench. DD always pulled kids after a technical.

Radar · #63 02-18-2014, 01:26 PM

My $.05:

D. May
D. Smith
J. Davis
R. Chapman
J. Paxson

T-Bone 84 · #64 02-18-2014, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by jumpin' joe

I liked Erv too, but he dropped off the "favorite" list for "things" he did after UD.
http://amarillo.com/stories/092102/tex_truckers.shtml

Didn't know that. Sorry that his life took that turn. While he was here, he was fun to watch. Hope he has gotten on a better path since the time of that article.

Radar · #65 02-18-2014, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84

Didn't know that. Sorry that his life took that turn. While he was here, he was fun to watch. Hope he has gotten on a better path since the time of that article.

Me neither. Story was from '02. Said sentence was "minimum 10 yrs". If he's out, hope he's on a positive path.

T-Bone 84 · #66 02-18-2014, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by jumpin' joe

The photo I would love to see again is Johnny Davis blocking a shot which was on the cover of the UD press guide in the 1975-76(?). Anybody have it or could scan a copy? I believe it was against Otis Birdsong and the Houston Cougars. Johnny's vertical was amazing.

I remember that picture, and I used to have the media guide. I might still have it, but it'd be in a box in my storage shed outside. Johnny D's afro was **** near in the cylinder, and yes, I think it was Otis Birdsong who got "faced".

Great memories!

UPDATE - Guess I shoulda scrolled all the way down before posting - but I remembered the media guide picture before I saw the above posting!

T-Bone 84 · #67 02-18-2014, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by jumpin' joe

..."The Shot"...which happened 30 years ago today.

Wow! Has it really been 30 years since "The Shot"? I still remember being in the Pep Band, with my buddy Gene on my right in a state of shock, and my buddy Joe on my left high-fiving everyone in sight, and all of us nearly getting trampled by students storming the court. What a moment!

T-Bone 84 · #68 02-18-2014, 08:13 PM

In only the most general of order...

Velvet (yes, I was there all 4 years he was in uniform - what a blessing!)
Smitty (loved his fadeaway)
Johnny D (like a strong beer - lots of hops)
Chris Daniels (God love you, my man)
Dan Obravac (can remember the announcer at The Fieldhouse: "The Man in The Middle...")
Ryan Perryman (the picture next to "Tough" in the dictionary)
Allen Elijah (remember hearing Omar Williams: "E-lijah with the rebound!")
Jim Paxson (the definition of an Iron Man)
Kevin Conrad (a tough, little Irish guard)
Edwin Young (the G, with no disrespect intended to the F-C)
Ed Young (the F-C, with no disrespect intended to the G)
Dave Colbert (smooth, tough, confident, and humble - a tough combination to find)
C-Dub (Dayton guy stays home - gotta love that)
CJ (the definition of determination)
Mike Kanieski (could shoot from anywhere on the court - inside or outside)
Terry Ross (did the most he could with the tools he had - a real gamer)
Mark Ashman (the 2nd-best post in the State his Sr year, behind Jason Collier, and he chose OP & UD)
Brooks Hall (another outstanding talent, who chose to stay close to home)
Steve Lawrence (OK, I had to include 1 goofy-looking guy)

And th-the, th-the, th-the, that's all folks!

jumpin' joe · #69 02-18-2014, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84

Wow! Has it really been 30 years since "The Shot"? I still remember being in the Pep Band, with my buddy Gene on my right in a state of shock, and my buddy Joe on my left high-fiving everyone in sight, and all of us nearly getting trampled by students storming the court. What a moment!

Just in case you want to relive it a bit...

And the video...

http://youtu.be/RmMpu3l4DVs

longtimefan · #70 02-18-2014, 11:10 PM

You gotta love Tom Hamlin - Larry SchellenbergER!

T-Bone 84 · #71 02-19-2014, 07:21 AM

Thanks, Joe! I can probably still name 1/2 the people in that Band (to the right, as you're looking over Raymond McCoy's shoulder). I was either the guy with the aviator shades in the upper right-hand corner of the screen, or the guy whose arm was attached to that trombone you saw being waved frantically. And I remember the article in the paper the next day that paid homage to the old baseball saying, but instead of "Tinker to Evers to Chance" it was "Schelly to Chapman to Young". Great memories!

Thanks again, Joe!

T-Bone 84

UDBrian · #72 02-19-2014, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by jumpin' joe

Hey Swampy and others,

I found the Johnny Davis photo I was looking for and placed it in the Media Vault. The photo has to rank right up there with "The Shot" photo which happened 30 years ago today.

That is my favorite picture in the concourse

Smitty10 · #73 02-19-2014, 01:29 PM

http://youtu.be/RmMpu3l4DVs[/QUOTE]

After watching this play again, I never realized how much had to go right in that sequence. Young getting his fingers on the rebound, Shelly being in the right place to grab it, Shelly tiptoeing near the line and keeping control, and Chapman's pass to Young had to be perfect and Young being ready for the pass also.

Also reminds you of how a star player is supposed to be. Last year it seemed like KD felt when there was last second shot that needed to be made, he was going to take it no matter what yet look at Chapman here, he didn't try to force anything. The star senior had no problem letting the sophomore get the glory, it was all about winning as a team.

Beatty Town Coach · #74 02-19-2014, 02:47 PM

Wow, what a difference in student sections from that game till current.

My Favorite all-time Flyers are (but I wasn't born until 1969, so first two have asterisk)

1. James Paxson Senior (He is from Springfield, my hometown, and he grew-up on same street with my Mom, and she remembers playing neighborhood games with Jim.

2. Jack Sallee also from Springfield, a couple years in front of my Mom in high school. Jacks first wife, a cheerleader from high school, is a friend of the family.

Here comes my time:

3. Roosevelt Chapman...what else can you say.
3.5 Anthony Corbitt
4. everyone else from the 83-84 squad
5. Dave Colbert
6. Keith Waleskowski
7. Negle Knight
8. Noland Robinson
9. Ken Branch
10. Ray Springer
11. David Brads
12. Bill Crotty
13. Alex Robertson
14. Troy McCracken
15. Raymod Marshall
16. and of course Storman Norman Grevey...lace-em-up Norm, as Bob would say on the Radio

JimBo · #75 02-19-2014, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by jumpin' joe

Just in case you want to relive it a bit...

And the video...

http://youtu.be/RmMpu3l4DVs

My fondest memory of being a Flyer fan. I was sitting behind the basket that Young made the shot. I can still picture all of it and remember how great it felt. What a magical season.

66flyer · #76 02-20-2014, 12:29 AM

As one of the few "old timers" on this board (my hair is not blue), I must say that for me there is only one #1--classmate, Hank Finkel. I didn't know him personally, but literally ran into him one day after class in Chaminade Hall. I'm 5'2" and the top of my head barely made it past his belt. I just kept looking up and up and up, mortified at my clumsiness. He said, "Sorry" in that deep voice and I stammered out my own apology and slunk away, lol. My brush with greatness.

At graduation in the fieldhouse, he sat in front of me looking just as excited as the rest of us mere mortals.

Mr. Flyerfanman · #77 02-20-2014, 11:17 PM

I was browsing around CBS Sports website and found this article on NCAA tournament "one hit wonders".

The link below should show Pittsnogle's picture but if you click on the previous button two times you will find a short summary on Roosevelt Chapman. I know he was mentioned a lot in this thread so I found it interesting that his name appeared on this site. He was a blast to watch as a youngster and I'm proud to say we both graduated at the same time from UD even though he received his M.B.A degree and I received my B.S. degree as a non-traditioinal student.

http://www.lostlettermen.com/slidesh...-are-they-now/

And here I thought he was living in Ohio somewhere and made frequent visits in the area but you can see I was totally off base with that thought.