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Old 10-17-2018, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by flyer016 View Post
Ha! Because the NCAA has really cleaned things up in the last 18 years.

I'm not going to argue with you jabronis on here -- you're all so partisan that you'd need to personally witness the mayor handing a recruit a bag with a dollar sign on it -- but you're delusional if you think there isn't financial and academic improprieties in all competitive D1 programs.
Well, there are some on here who would say Dayton is not competitive, so I guess we're good. The way th ed NCAA goes after little guys, I'm sure they would have been on UD like white on rice after the Elite 8 run if there was anything big.

The Iams guy? Really? If Brooks Hall hadn't been a recruit I suspect his dad would have qualified for that loan anyway. That's what his foundation did, loan money to people who couldn't get a loan in a traditional manner. Especially to those who did volunteer work, which Mr. Hall did. It was wrong and he reported it.
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Old 10-17-2018, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by flyer016 View Post
Iams chief's loan to UD player's father draws scrutiny of NCAA: https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/s...weekinbiz.html
Your "proof" is analogous to the "proof" I hear about institutional racism. Yes, there is racism in our society, but one can't prove their point by identifying a couple discreet events and then claim "everyone is doing" it at proportions/scale claimed.

Yes, there is cheating and, yes, some schools cheat to a much greater degree than others, but you need more proof than this to get me to believe your claim. Accusations are not proof (yet).

I guess this is just a polite way of me calling Bu!!sh!t :-)
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Old 10-24-2018, 04:26 PM
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...pay-play-trial

A jury on Wednesday convicted the three defendants accused of pay-for-play schemes to influence high-profile basketball recruits to attend Kansas, Louisville and NC State.
Adidas employee James Gatto, former Adidas consultant Merl Code and Christian Dawkins, a former runner for NBA agent Andy Miller, were found guilty after a three-week criminal trial in federal court in New York.
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Old 10-25-2018, 01:55 AM
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This strikes me as kind of nuts. On one hand, I'm happy to see rules being enforced. On the other hand... CRIMINAL penalties for not following NCAA rules is just plain crazy. As far as I can tell, the people convicted don't even have any formal relationship with the NCAA. It would be slightly less nuts to convict a player for accepting gifts and not reporting it - still crazy but at least the player has a formal relationship with the NCAA and presumably signs papers stating that they're an amateur.

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I thought the rules had changed after Pitino and prostitutes. Head coach doesn't have to know but he is responsible. Wonder how the NCAA gets out of this.
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I thought the rules had changed after Pitino and prostitutes. Head coach doesn't have to know but he is responsible. Wonder how the NCAA gets out of this.
I really feel sorry for Cleveland State.
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Recent story on ESPN site that Mr. Clean (Ricky Pitino) is hoping to become a candidate for an NBA coaching position.


Well that way he (or his staff) doesn't have to pay for strippers or prostitutes ..... the players can do that themselves!
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I really feel sorry for Cleveland State.
I still cite that joke from the late 1980s: “The NCAA is so upset by Jerry Tarkanian’s recruiting violations at UNLV that they’ve slapped another year’s probation on Cleveland State.”
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/innocen...ers-1541016671

For those of you without access, it is a letter written by Pitino's lawyer saying basically "everyone at trial specifically said they took great pains to make sure Pitino didn't know, so it's totally unfair that they're making my client a scapegoat."

Sorry, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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Only in America.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-...=hp_lista_pos1

I'm corrupt so I cheated and took your money, and when I got caught cheating I decided it was your fault that I got punished for cheating, so I'm suing you over the consequences I have to face.

Way to go mom and dad, you're teaching your son well.


“Because of this criminal scheme and through no fault of their own, Brian and other student athletes lost their eligibility to play college basketball at any school, lost their eligibility to receive financial aid necessary to continue their education, and lost the singular opportunity to develop physically and athletically into NBA draft picks at an elite NCAA Division I basketball program,” said Mr. Bowen Jr.’s law firm, the McLeod Law Group, in a statement.
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Old 11-20-2018, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gazoo View Post
Only in America.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-...=hp_lista_pos1

I'm corrupt so I cheated and took your money, and when I got caught cheating I decided it was your fault that I got punished for cheating, so I'm suing you over the consequences I have to face.

Way to go mom and dad, you're teaching your son well.


“Because of this criminal scheme and through no fault of their own, Brian and other student athletes lost their eligibility to play college basketball at any school, lost their eligibility to receive financial aid necessary to continue their education, and lost the singular opportunity to develop physically and athletically into NBA draft picks at an elite NCAA Division I basketball program,” said Mr. Bowen Jr.’s law firm, the McLeod Law Group, in a statement.
The same Mr. Bowen Jr whose father had his hand out and/or demanded $$'s at every turn for his son's services, be it AAU or college.
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