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Old 12-11-2010, 05:44 PM
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LOL at the ODU announcers.
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these announcers are horrible! they are saying that Wright has 9 steals in this game....there's no way
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and it was not a travel ... even the ODU announcers admit it
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Originally Posted by ManhattanFlyer View Post
Radio announcers having trouble figuring out the score.
Larry and Bucky says in house scoreboard has been incorrect.
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Originally Posted by ud69 View Post
Another fly-by-night theory proven wrong. So far this year, 5 positives, 3 negatives, and one no change. Theories are fine if you can back them up. Obviously, this one fell flat on its face.

MSM: 9 point lead at the half, 13 at 15:00 mark, +4
Akron: 11, 6, -5
Ole Miss: 13, 13, 0
Savannah: (3), 5, +8
FA&M: 5, 9, +4
UC: (23), (35), -12
ETSU: 5, (9), -14
Miami: (4), 2, +6
CCS: (6), 1, +7
You asked for examples of when the team has come out flat. Do you see how your "proof" doesn't disprove his claim?
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offensive rebounding and foul shooting is the only difference
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forced jumper ... pass the ball
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Paul having a good game.
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great pass and a trey by pw 64-63 ODU
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the TV guys corrected themselves....CW has 4 steals.

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WOW! Horrible decision by CJ but ODU give us another shot and PW with the TRES!

They couldn't shoot 98% from the line all day either...
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Originally Posted by ud69 View Post
Another fly-by-night theory proven wrong. So far this year, 5 positives, 3 negatives, and one no change. Theories are fine if you can back them up. Obviously, this one fell flat on its face. Thanks for the info Gazoo.

MSM: 9 point lead at the half, 13 at 15:00 mark, +4
Akron: 11, 6, -5
Ole Miss: 13, 13, 0
Savannah: (3), 5, +8
FA&M: 5, 9, +4
UC: (23), (35), -12
ETSU: 5, (9), -14
Miami: (4), 2, +6
CCS: (6), 1, +7
If you're happy with playing well out of the gate a little better than 50 percent of the time than more power to ya.
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great steal by JS and pass by Cj 65-64 UD
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Regardless of the outcome, it looks like Staten grew up a lot tonight.
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forced shot by CW ... arrrgggghhhh

65-64 under 3 to go. foul on CW, 2 for ODU after the TO
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Terrible call. Staten had all ball and easy layup. Homered.
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Old 12-11-2010, 05:51 PM
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Nice comeback. We are going to make this close.
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CW plays with heart of a lion, but man oh man if he could finish he'd be a Lion King!!!!

Great toughness and fight from the Flyers to come back to the lead.
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I like how smart Juwan is playing. He isn't just rushing into the lane. He played his game of distributing the ball until some driving opportunities presented themselves.
nothing like a smart, assertive calming influence onthe offense.

on other hand, CW just missed badly. Never an nba player, sorry, just pitiful.
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If you're happy with playing well out of the gate a little better than 50 percent of the time than more power to ya.
Another fly-by-night statement trying to suggest something that I never said.
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Another fly-by-night statement trying to suggest something that I never said.
Do you know what fly-by-night means?
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o rebound and stickback 67-65 ODU
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Searcy has had a really weak game.
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NO OFFENSE WHEN IT COUNTS. can't run a play

Devin Searcy - used and abused last three possessions (scored on, block by the backboard, scored on).
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no post Defense when i t counts or whenever really... ouch!

once on rebound on last play, and i think that was PW got backed down for easy layin
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like I said a while back, The difference was going to be the strength inside. 2 layups for ODU while DS misses a layup because he was underneath the backboard.

69-65 with 50 seconds
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DS - completely out of position gives up the ORB and the hoop...then stuffed on a great feed under the basket.....then gives up an easy 2 ...UGH!
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Another fly-by-night statement trying to suggest something that I never said.
I would characterize a positive start to the second half 5 out of 9 times as not good and consider it evidence that we struggle to start the half.

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bad shot by JS. Game over.

meltdown on offense has sunk the Flyers last. Haven't score since before the under 4 TO
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BG ?

Out of a time out we have a trey shot for CJ, the same play they have run a thousand times.
At the defensive end we stay in man instead of 2-3 zone with Searcy playing post D?
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Everyone that was begging for DS to get more minutes...well?

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Wow...how does this ODU team ever lose? They never commit a foul. It looks like the Flyers will come up just short but all in all this is the best they have looked all year. I am proud of them for the first time since the Ole Miss game.

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Do you know what fly-by-night means?
Untrustworthy.
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Makes both FTs, down 4, CJ hits a 3! down 1 with 8 to go!
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And then we give up a layup. and miss the last shot. 74-71 game over.
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Heck of a shot by Johnson, but terrible not being ready to guard the inbounds after the shot.
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it would not have counted. had to either get a TO or foul.
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Wow!!! Just wow!

Nearly tie it up at the end. Would CJ's trey have counted? It sounded like the refs blew the whistle while he was in the act of shooting.
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Wow Staten, way to pass it off in that situation. SHOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Untrustworthy.
Technically, yes. But typically not in this context. Which is why it makes it a weird choice of words.
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You're misusing it.
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um....you have to foul that guy on the layup. you can't just let him score. good times.
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fun game to watch, unfortunately I'm sure a lot of people on here will be happy with this game.

I just wish Juwan would have pulled up.....I think he would have had a decent chance of hitting that wide-open 30 footer.
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Great game. ODU shoots 85% from line after having shot 61% for year-who would have thought. great comeback be flyers. Now if LF could finally make an open shot.
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really poor decisions on offense and a lack of strength inside. KH was missed in this one.
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KH was missed in this one.
So how many games are we going to say..oh we missed x or y?

this needs to stop.
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We shot 42% as a team. Chris Wright 4-13 himself. 3 for 6 from the Line.

Just pointing out things that cost us. Josh B oh for 4 from the line.
Parker, Kavs, Fabs, Spearman 3 for 15 from the field. Guys like Parker have to come thru in games like this.


It was there for us, with just couple more hits from the field. We outhustled ODU in the last 8 minutes.
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I would characterize a positive start to the second half 5 out of 9 times as not good and consider it evidence that we struggle to start the half.
I'm not saying these 9 games prove anything, but I really don't follow your logic. What if we started positive 0 out of 9? It seems that would qualify as "struggle". Half the time would seem to imply random (not a trend of struggling).

You seem to be saying that 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are "struggling" while 8 is "random" and 9 is "acceptable".
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That might have been our best team effort of the season. But we just got killed by their big men. They sealed us off down low so many times for lay-ups.
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Everyone that was begging for DS to get more minutes...well?

Still hanging tough though.
you're right, BG has some tough choices down low, none of them immediately promising. i think we should play Chris wright at the 5 .

I am not kidding!

him, Benson as 4 and 5. Searcy for relief. CJ, PW And STATEN rouding it out. the top 5 guys get 34 minutes.

Parker gets more when he's hot. oyyyyy
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We shot 42% as a team. Chris Wright 4-13 himself. 3 for 6 from the Line.

Just pointing out things that cost us. Josh B oh for 4 from the line.
Parker, Kavs, Fabs, Spearman 3 for 15 from the field. Guys like Parker have to come thru in games like this.


It was there for us, with just couple more hits from the field. We outhustled ODU in the last 8 minutes.
CW killed us tonight with his ineffeciencies
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So how many games are we going to say..oh we missed x or y?

this needs to stop.
first time I have said that this season about any player. This game was lost because of a lack of physical play in the paint.
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no post Defense when i t counts or whenever really... ouch!

once on rebound on last play, and i think that was PW got backed down for easy layin
cou'dnt tell who it was, i guess it was Devin. what number is he, i thought i saw 22 but it was so quick an dour defender was falling over
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Great Game

I hate a loss as much as anyone but this was a great basketball game to watch. UD played very hard and well on the road. I hope we continue to schedule ODU. It is a fine match-up.
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I'm not saying these 9 games prove anything, but I really don't follow your logic. What if we started positive 0 out of 9? It seems that would qualify as "struggle". Half the time would seem to imply random (not a trend of struggling).

You seem to be saying that 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are "struggling" while 8 is "random" and 9 is "acceptable".
gazoo where did you get those numbers? thanks for posting BTW. i'd be curious to see those numbers throughout the year. could be kind of interesting to look at.
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So how many games are we going to say..oh we missed x or y?

this needs to stop.
Better question is...how much could we have used Adriene Payne?
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Not when I disprove your statements with facts.
You didn't disprove anything. We do have problems with coming out flat in the second half, and your facts show that.
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CW killed us tonight with his ineffeciencies
his season has been defined by poor shot selection and especially taking them early in the shot clock. I wouldn't mind it if he was taking some bad shots as the clock runs down but he does it early in possessions and it stops any continuity on offense.
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Not when I disprove your statements with facts.
1) Yes, you're still misusing it.

2) You're confused. I'm not the poster you were arguing with. You're not disproving any statements from me.
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that CJ 3 pointer coming out of the timeout has my mind boggled. just a poor poor shot selection there
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Payne is not a physical player at this point of his career. Flyers got pushed around in the paint.
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How about those last 2 plays?!?!? Now that's the way to come out of timeouts!
Does this really surprise you? BG is not a great strategist.
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first time I have said that this season about any player. This game was lost because of a lack of physical play in the paint.
Absolutely, they got second and third shots when they needed it, and their offensive boarding killed us.

They didn't shoot so well either, just outboarded us 39-29.
UD getting outrebounded, never thought i'd see this day.
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Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse View Post
I hate a loss as much as anyone but this was a great basketball game to watch. UD played very hard and well on the road. I hope we continue to schedule ODU. It is a fine match-up.
Amen to that. My expectations for this team are much higher now then when this game began.
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CW killed us tonight with his ineffeciencies
Look, CW didn't finish well at the hoop. No doubt. BUT, without his efforts on D and on the boards we're not even in the game. To say that CW killed us is just crap....plain and simple....crap.
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Old 12-11-2010, 06:17 PM
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Not when I disprove your statements with facts.
Not to get into a tickle fight here but here is where I was coming from.

Someone said we struggle coming out of the half. Someone else disagreed and provided statistics supposedly proving that we don't struggle coming out of the half. In my opinion, outscoring our opponents in the first five minutes of the second half in 5 out of 9 games does not disprove that we struggle coming out of the half.

If there was more to the argument than just "struggling to start a half" then I must have missed it or misread the post. Regardless of original argument, all I am saying is put me in the group of people who think our play to start the second have could improve drastically.
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Old 12-11-2010, 06:18 PM
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that CJ 3 pointer coming out of the timeout has my mind boggled. just a poor poor shot selection there
He had no choice. Shot clock was running out.
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Old 12-11-2010, 06:19 PM
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CW had a decent game. I don't mind if players miss shots if they are taking good ones. CW has been forcing 4-5 shots every game and it is disappointing that he isn't improving in that area.
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He had no choice. Shot clock was running out.
oh, i didnt see the shot clock. i was shaking my head like why that shot.
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his season has been defined by poor shot selection and especially taking them early in the shot clock. I wouldn't mind it if he was taking some bad shots as the clock runs down but he does it early in possessions and it stops any continuity on offense.
that Sea Bass, plus these are shots fresh and sophs would take.
Can't believe he can't finish, dribble or lead us on the Offensive end.

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Old 12-11-2010, 06:21 PM
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I'm not saying these 9 games prove anything, but I really don't follow your logic. What if we started positive 0 out of 9? It seems that would qualify as "struggle". Half the time would seem to imply random (not a trend of struggling).

You seem to be saying that 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are "struggling" while 8 is "random" and 9 is "acceptable".
I'm so confused...i have no idea what i am saying now. That last 2 minutes threw me for a loop. Lets just say that we could improve to start the second half....in the middle of the second half....at the end of the second half....and might as well improve in the first half as well.
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I dont blame the players for this loss. They played hard and you could tell they wanted it. Aside from the FT shooting disparity, I have to question BG as to why he didnt go more zone in the second half when ODU was scoring inside. ODU didnt impress me as being a great perimeter shooting team. I think going zone would have made the difference. Just my opinion. Other than that, I was encouraged by the effort. I also think Juwan matured a bit today.
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Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse View Post
I hate a loss as much as anyone but this was a great basketball game to watch. UD played very hard and well on the road. I hope we continue to schedule ODU. It is a fine match-up.
Ditto, evenly matched teams, reps and just a quality game.
First one i've seen more than 50% of this year, as opposed to Gametracker or espn delayed stats/scores
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Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic08 View Post
oh, i didnt see the shot clock. i was shaking my head like why that shot.
Now, what you could reasonably argue is that BG got burned coming out of that timeout. He called a timeout to most likely set up a play against a man-to-man defense - as that is what ODU was playing. However, coming out of the timeout ODU switched to a zone and we looked unprepared for the change and wasted a lot of time trying to adjust. Therefore, CJ could only throw up a wild shot to try and beat the clock.
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Let's not forget the fact that we were out rebounded. Luke hurt us tonight rather than helped us also.
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Rebounding and FTs. Game, set, match.

We competed however, and thats a step in the right direction for this team. That's something that's been largely missing all season.
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Look, CW didn't finish well at the hoop. No doubt. BUT, without his efforts on D and on the boards we're not even in the game. To say that CW killed us is just crap....plain and simple....crap.
CW has always had trouble finishing at the rim, and I guess always will.
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CW has always had trouble finishing at the rim, and I guess always will.
only another year at Dayton, and they maybe 2 over in Europe. what has been doing this Summer, really?
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gazoo where did you get those numbers? thanks for posting BTW. i'd be curious to see those numbers throughout the year. could be kind of interesting to look at.
The stats and play by play are on the University of Dayton athletics page
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Originally Posted by Gazoo View Post
The stats and play by play are on the University of Dayton athletics page
wow did not know, will look into thanks!

edit: nm found it

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