UDPride Discussion Forums    
     

Go Back   UDPride Discussion Forums > UDPRIDE SPORTS FORUMS > Mens Basketball

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-04-2018, 07:43 PM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,756
Thanks: 4,117
Thanked 3,344 Times in 2,206 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
2018 coaching carousel

Thad Matta has met with Ole Miss officials to discuss replacing Andy Kennedy.

Wow, I did not foresee that.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...aching-vacancy:

When he parted with the Buckeyes, Matta mentioned "trying to get healthy" as a reason. He battled health issues for much of his time in Columbus, including emergency back surgery in 2007.

According to one source close to Matta, he currently is in much better shape physically and is rejuvenated after dealing with back and foot issues.

"He wouldn't take any job," the source said. "But he'd possibly consider coming back for the right one."



13 d1 head coaching jobs are currently open.

https://hoopdirt.com/hoopdirt-job-tracker-2018/
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to ud2 For This Totally Excellent Post:
OSU Flyer (03-04-2018)
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 03-04-2018, 08:20 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
bring on the transfers and decommits
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer2 (03-11-2018)
  #3  
Old 03-05-2018, 02:42 AM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
CULLOWHEE, N.C. (AP) — Western Carolina basketball coach Larry Hunter says he is stepping down.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Beatty Town Coach (03-05-2018)
  #4  
Old 03-05-2018, 06:47 AM
Beatty Town Coach's Avatar
Beatty Town Coach Beatty Town Coach is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,143
Thanks: 925
Thanked 1,129 Times in 576 Posts
Beatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond reputeBeatty Town Coach has a reputation beyond repute
It's amazing that Larry stayed at WC for this long. He is without question one of the great coaches of all time, but Western Carolina is nobody's coaching dream by any means.

Gary Trent Junior can thank Larry Hunter for whole lot.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to Beatty Town Coach For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-05-2018)
  #5  
Old 03-08-2018, 09:53 AM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is online now
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,470
Thanks: 196
Thanked 5,542 Times in 1,425 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Pitt fires Kevin Stallings
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to lhsgolf19 For This Totally Excellent Post:
BeckysTXA (03-11-2018), Figgie123 (03-08-2018)
  #6  
Old 03-10-2018, 09:44 AM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is online now
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,470
Thanks: 196
Thanked 5,542 Times in 1,425 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
2m2 minutes ago
More
UConn has parted ways with Kevin Ollie, per multiple sources.

I know another A10 team on the east coast that just started to cry, they know what is coming lol
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-10-2018, 11:18 AM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
2m2 minutes ago
More
UConn has parted ways with Kevin Ollie, per multiple sources.

I know another A10 team on the east coast that just started to cry, they know what is coming lol
But Ollie has a better average Kenpom than Hurley
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-10-2018, 11:29 AM
T-Bone 84's Avatar
T-Bone 84 T-Bone 84 is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shiloh, OH
Posts: 4,015
Thanks: 2,112
Thanked 2,444 Times in 1,285 Posts
T-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
But Ollie has a better average Kenpom than Hurley
But what are their trends? Ollie almost certainly trending downward. Hurley almost certainly trending upward.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to T-Bone 84 For This Totally Excellent Post:
OSU Flyer (03-10-2018)
  #9  
Old 03-10-2018, 11:34 AM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Kevin Ollie has recruited McDonald's All Americans, won a national championship, played in the NBA and at one time was a top candidate for NBA jobs, is a UConn alumnus, carried the school through a postseason ban/NCAA sanctions and put players in the NBA.

Seems like a stronger resume than Hurley
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-10-2018, 11:35 AM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 View Post
But what are their trends? Ollie almost certainly trending downward. Hurley almost certainly trending upward.
Posted via Mobile Device
Do trends matter?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-10-2018, 12:21 PM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is online now
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,470
Thanks: 196
Thanked 5,542 Times in 1,425 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Georgia fires Mark Fox
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-10-2018, 12:25 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Georgia fires Mark Fox
He was done when 5 star PG Ashton Hagans decommitted
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-10-2018, 01:22 PM
San Diego Flyer's Avatar
San Diego Flyer San Diego Flyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Dallas
Posts: 13,261
Thanks: 7,871
Thanked 8,882 Times in 3,991 Posts
San Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
Thad Matta has met with Ole Miss officials to discuss replacing Andy Kennedy.

Wow, I did not foresee that.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...aching-vacancy:

When he parted with the Buckeyes, Matta mentioned "trying to get healthy" as a reason. He battled health issues for much of his time in Columbus, including emergency back surgery in 2007.

According to one source close to Matta, he currently is in much better shape physically and is rejuvenated after dealing with back and foot issues.

"He wouldn't take any job," the source said. "But he'd possibly consider coming back for the right one."



13 d1 head coaching jobs are currently open.

https://hoopdirt.com/hoopdirt-job-tracker-2018/
IF you are coaching basketball in Oxford, Miss. there certainly is a lot less pressure than in Columbus, Ohio. They gave Kennedy 12 seasons to show his stuff. But it's not stress free. He hit the door after the first losing season he ever had there.

I always liked the guy because he came off a gig in Cincy where they are trained like sick dogs to look down at us, and he rose above that and was not afraid to schedule us.
Reply With Quote
3 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to San Diego Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (03-10-2018), Lifelong Flyer Fan (03-10-2018), OSU Flyer (03-10-2018)
  #14  
Old 03-10-2018, 01:42 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Kennedy scheduled a H/H after Illinois State after their tourney snub last year and their coach went on Twitter looking for schools to play. I give him props for that
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (03-10-2018), Flyer 86 (03-10-2018)
  #15  
Old 03-10-2018, 01:51 PM
T-Bone 84's Avatar
T-Bone 84 T-Bone 84 is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shiloh, OH
Posts: 4,015
Thanks: 2,112
Thanked 2,444 Times in 1,285 Posts
T-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
Do trends matter?
If trends didnít matter, Ollie would probably still Be UConnís coach. But when you win a national championship in Year 2 of your tenure, you donít play in the postseason in Years 5 & 6, and finish sub-.500 in Year 6, then yes, I believe trends matter.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to T-Bone 84 For This Totally Excellent Post:
OSU Flyer (03-10-2018)
  #16  
Old 03-10-2018, 02:03 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 View Post
If trends didnít matter, Ollie would probably still Be UConnís coach. But when you win a national championship in Year 2 of your tenure, you donít play in the postseason in Years 5 & 6, and finish sub-.500 in Year 6, then yes, I believe trends matter.
Posted via Mobile Device
Trending down not good for a coach. Definitely something to think about it
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-10-2018, 02:05 PM
Lifelong Flyer Fan Lifelong Flyer Fan is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,279
Thanks: 4,521
Thanked 3,483 Times in 1,248 Posts
Lifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond repute
On Fox Sports radio this morning, they reported that Ollie is being dismissed with cause related to an investigation of the school/program. I guess they are referring to the FBI,but didn't specify. Said UConn is in the disciplinary process and an announcement would be made at the conclusion.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Lifelong Flyer Fan For This Totally Excellent Post:
BeckysTXA (03-11-2018), jack72 (03-10-2018)
  #18  
Old 03-10-2018, 02:12 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan View Post
On Fox Sports radio this morning, they reported that Ollie is being dismissed with cause related to an investigation of the school/program. I guess they are referring to the FBI,but didn't specify. Said UConn is in the disciplinary process and an announcement would be made at the conclusion.
They are being investigated for recruiting unrelated to that
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (03-10-2018), Lifelong Flyer Fan (03-10-2018)
  #19  
Old 03-10-2018, 02:52 PM
frisco flyer's Avatar
frisco flyer frisco flyer is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,233
Thanks: 669
Thanked 1,428 Times in 655 Posts
frisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond reputefrisco flyer has a reputation beyond repute
UCon parts ways with Kevin Ollie citing just cause
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-10-2018, 03:01 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
The NCAA has alleged, nothing has been proven yet. I think this just cause move is a way to negotiate down his buyout
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Atlantic 10 (03-10-2018)
  #21  
Old 03-10-2018, 06:22 PM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
UConn terminates Ollie

Late Saturday UConn announced that Kevin Ollie has been terminated "for just cause"....in connection with the ongoing NCAA investigation. The University said it would not comment further until its own "disciplinary" investigation and the NCAA investigation are complete. That will take a long time; for sure the media will dig up details before that.

Ollie would be owed $10 million if fired...and the UConn athletics department is in dire financial straights. "Fired for cause" I presume means UConn does not owe Ollie any money.

More later.
__________
Hurley being mentioned most often...also Crean and Matta. Feeling is that UConn needs a "splash" hire,...a big name. UConn is a top-tier destination job, pay is about $3 million, new $45 million basketball facility on campus is beyond belief.

Last edited by UACFlyer; 03-10-2018 at 10:16 PM..
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to UACFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (03-10-2018)
  #22  
Old 03-11-2018, 09:37 AM
Buster Goode Buster Goode is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
Posts: 3,035
Thanks: 1,128
Thanked 1,952 Times in 910 Posts
Buster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond repute
Kevin Ollie is surely going to wind up in the A10 now.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-11-2018, 10:17 AM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Personal matters....

Originally Posted by Buster Goode View Post
Kevin Ollie is surely going to wind up in the A10 now.
A few years ago Ollie's wife divorced him. The Ollie's were a lovely family with two kids....perfect example. There may be no connection; but he has not been the same guy since.

His recruiting classes have been top-ten-type. But last year three of his top recruits left the program in their second year. Transfers are common, of course. But to lose three guys at once just one year after winning a national championship surely means the guys were not happy at UConn. And the team has suffered an amazing level of injuries over the last two years...such that the quality of training has been questioned.

Whatever, the last two teams have been mediocre to put the best spin on it. A replacement must be named fast. Already the top HS recruit to come in next year has withdrawn his commitment....not 24 hours after the announcement.

Tough time ahead for UConn. Jim Calhoun is assisting the AD in a consulting capacity and has even been mentioned as coach...he's 76. Nuts!
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to UACFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (03-11-2018), jack72 (03-11-2018)
  #24  
Old 03-11-2018, 10:26 AM
Lifelong Flyer Fan Lifelong Flyer Fan is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,279
Thanks: 4,521
Thanked 3,483 Times in 1,248 Posts
Lifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond repute
I heard a report Calhoun made a statement about the coaching vacancy talking about all the years UConn has been part of his life and that he would do anything in any capacity to help. They guy giving the report said Calhoun wants to coach again.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to Lifelong Flyer Fan For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (03-11-2018)
  #25  
Old 03-11-2018, 11:46 AM
CT Flyer CT Flyer is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,097
Thanks: 1,627
Thanked 696 Times in 400 Posts
CT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant future
Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan View Post
I heard a report Calhoun made a statement about the coaching vacancy talking about all the years UConn has been part of his life and that he would do anything in any capacity to help. They guy giving the report said Calhoun wants to coach again.
He definitely does! It wouldn't surprise me in one bit if he comes back. If he doesn't they need to part ways with him altogether because no experienced coach is going to want that job if Calhoun is looking over your shoulder every minute (or at practice almost every day like he was during the Ollie regime).
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to CT Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
jack72 (03-11-2018), Lifelong Flyer Fan (03-11-2018)
  #26  
Old 03-11-2018, 02:18 PM
Furio Furio is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 1,323
Thanks: 75
Thanked 368 Times in 214 Posts
Furio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud of
Rick Pitino name mentioned for the Georgia job.They hired Jim Harrick so nothing would surprise me.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Furio For This Totally Excellent Post:
BeckysTXA (03-11-2018), CT Flyer (03-11-2018)
  #27  
Old 03-11-2018, 02:24 PM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is online now
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,470
Thanks: 196
Thanked 5,542 Times in 1,425 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Jon Rothstein

Verified account

@JonRothstein
22m22 minutes ago
More
Former Ohio State HC Thad Matta is a serious candidate for the vacancy at Georgia, per multiple sources. Discussions between both sides could begin as early as today.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to lhsgolf19 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Lifelong Flyer Fan (03-11-2018)
  #28  
Old 03-11-2018, 02:52 PM
Radar Radar is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,167
Thanks: 1,301
Thanked 1,472 Times in 711 Posts
Radar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond repute
Hurley on Pitt's list
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 03-11-2018, 02:54 PM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Not necessary...

Originally Posted by CT Flyer View Post
He definitely does! It wouldn't surprise me in one bit if he comes back. If he doesn't they need to part ways with him altogether because no experienced coach is going to want that job if Calhoun is looking over your shoulder every minute (or at practice almost every day like he was during the Ollie regime).
No problem. Calhoun didn't even look over Ollie's shoulder. In Ollie's first year Calhoun was a regular at games. But Ollie had a highly experienced staff...Calhoun is not stupid; he kept his distance.

During the last two years Calhoun has not even been seen at games. In fact he's been working helping nearby St. Joseph University set up a Div III BB program.

JC is itching to stay close to BB and if UConn asked him to come back he'd do it. But he never got in Ollie's way and he would not with any new coach.

Because of his age (76) I don't know how he'd deal with recruiting. Recruits like to think the guy that recruited them will be there for four years.

Re JC returning...sort of depends who else might be interested...I'd give it 50-50. Calhoun promised he'd help UConn in any way with the process of replacing Ollie....any way.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to UACFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (03-11-2018), Flyer 86 (03-13-2018)
  #30  
Old 03-11-2018, 03:14 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
If Calhoun had a coach in waiting it might able to work. Larry Brown was able to recruit at SMU

He had health problems in the past so I don't know if that would be a factor
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 03-11-2018, 08:37 PM
CT Flyer CT Flyer is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,097
Thanks: 1,627
Thanked 696 Times in 400 Posts
CT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant future
Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
No problem. Calhoun didn't even look over Ollie's shoulder. In Ollie's first year Calhoun was a regular at games. But Ollie had a highly experienced staff...Calhoun is not stupid; he kept his distance.

During the last two years Calhoun has not even been seen at games. In fact he's been working helping nearby St. Joseph University set up a Div III BB program.

JC is itching to stay close to BB and if UConn asked him to come back he'd do it. But he never got in Ollie's way and he would not with any new coach.

Because of his age (76) I don't know how he'd deal with recruiting. Recruits like to think the guy that recruited them will be there for four years.

Re JC returning...sort of depends who else might be interested...I'd give it 50-50. Calhoun promised he'd help UConn in any way with the process of replacing Ollie....any way.
I heard from a source close to UConn athletics that Calhoun's interference in Ollie's practices was what soured their relationship. Could be wrong but I trust the source who has inside knowledge.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to CT Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-12-2018)
  #32  
Old 03-12-2018, 04:10 PM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Just not true....

Originally Posted by CT Flyer View Post
I heard from a source close to UConn athletics that Calhoun's interference in Ollie's practices was what soured their relationship. Could be wrong but I trust the source who has inside knowledge.
Ollie was an asst on Calhoun's staff for two years prior to becoming HC of one of the nation's most prominent programs. Ollie had never been HC of even a CYO team. But, 100% of Calhoun's staff was retained....including two assts and one assoc head coach, each of whom had considerable head coaching experience. Ollie started with a staff having about 50 years of combined head coaching experience.

But, one by one over the next four years each of the three former head coaches left...one retired, one became assoc HC elsewhere, and Ollie fired one just last year. And Ollie became divorced about two years ago.

And last year three top recruits transferred out. That doesn't happen unless guys are really unhappy about the way things are going.

Bottom line: Just about everything in Kevin Ollies' life, professional and personal, has changed significantly since he won a national championship four years ago. He's had a lot to handle.

Meanwhile, UConn is getting skewered by the media over its obvious attempt to avoid paying Ollie $10 million owed under his contract by claiming "just cause".....the school looks very bad and at least one writer has called for the president's job.

Adding to the turmoil and UConn's grief....unlike 99% (my guess) of other colleges, UConn's coaches are members of a union....one of the public employee unions that is bankrupting the State. The union is standing up for Ollie, for starters, pointing out that UConn can't fire him without going through the usual union "process". The most UConn can do is suspend its coach with pay until the process is worked through. Can you believe that?

UConn may just have bitten off more than it can chew. So far, there is no suggestion that Ollie did anything wrong other than violate a minor NCAA rule re summer practice. (And have back-to-back losing seasons!) Stay tuned.

Last edited by UACFlyer; 03-12-2018 at 04:27 PM..
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to UACFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Lifelong Flyer Fan (03-12-2018)
  #33  
Old 03-12-2018, 04:18 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Only in Connecticut would a basketball coach be in a union
Reply With Quote
6 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (03-13-2018), jack72 (03-12-2018), NJFlyr71 (03-13-2018), springborofan (03-12-2018), UACFlyer (03-12-2018), Viperstick (03-13-2018)
  #34  
Old 03-12-2018, 08:51 PM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,433
Thanks: 10,511
Thanked 5,735 Times in 3,265 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
Wonderful a union for basketball coaches, baseball players and football players. What's next a union for bank presidents?
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to jack72 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-13-2018), NJFlyr71 (03-13-2018)
  #35  
Old 03-13-2018, 09:58 AM
Flyer68 Flyer68 is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 809
Thanks: 1
Thanked 363 Times in 206 Posts
Flyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond repute
Let me get this straight. A "writer has called for the president's job" because the president tried to save the school $10 million.

Maybe I am mistaken but I thought that the President of a university is the head of the entire university where education, not basketball, is supposed to come first.

So they should fire the president because of this? Ollie has losing seasons and three top recruits transfer (shouldn't this have raised a red flag) and the president should lose his \ her job?
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 03-13-2018, 10:05 AM
CE80's Avatar
CE80 CE80 is online now
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,152
Thanks: 4,282
Thanked 4,922 Times in 2,423 Posts
CE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by jack72 View Post
Wonderful a union for basketball coaches, baseball players and football players. What's next a union for bank presidents?
I need me a union.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 03-13-2018, 10:49 AM
NJFlyr71's Avatar
NJFlyr71 NJFlyr71 is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: NJ Beach Livin'
Posts: 1,579
Thanks: 686
Thanked 1,014 Times in 563 Posts
NJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond reputeNJFlyr71 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by CE80 View Post
I need me a union.
Could a fan base start a union? Let's organize in the Kennedy Union
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 03-13-2018, 11:00 AM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,756
Thanks: 4,117
Thanked 3,344 Times in 2,206 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
There might have been some irregularities regarding how Pitt went about hiring Kevin Stallings.

IMO, this does seem like a possible conflict of interest.


https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/08/pi...s-search-firm/


Pittsburgh Is Paying Kevin Stallings $9.4 Million to Go Away, After Former AD Scott Barnes Screwed Them on Both Ends

The story of how this went down, though, shows how the insular and you-pat-my-back-Iíll-pat-yours world of college sports can leave the schools holding the bag while the actual decision makers move on.

In hiring Mr. Stallings, a head coach of 23 years at Illinois State and Vanderbilt whose selection has been met with hesitation from Pitt fans, athletic director Scott Barnes solicited Collegiate Sports Associates, a North Carolina-based executive search and consulting firm led by Mr. Barnesí former boss.

The companyís founder and president, Todd Turner, was the athletic director at the University of Washington when Mr. Barnes was the schoolís senior associate athletic director from 2005-08. Mr. Turner also was the athletic director at Vanderbilt in 1999 when the Commodores hired Mr. Stallings as basketball coach, a position he held until Sunday, when Pitt announced it had selected him to replace Jamie Dixon.

So Pittsburgh (presumably) paid six figures so the search firm could recommend an old buddy, and the hire has now produced a disaster in two years. Barnes, by the way, moved on to Oregon State in December of 2016, and spent only 18 months as the athletic director in Pittsburgh. It was a costly tenure, and one for which the school now gets to pay the final bill while Barnes is thousands of miles away.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 03-13-2018, 11:26 AM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Incomplete story....

Originally Posted by Flyer68 View Post
Let me get this straight. A "writer has called for the president's job" because the president tried to save the school $10 million. Maybe I am mistaken but I thought that the President of a university is the head of the entire university where education, not basketball, is supposed to come first.

So they should fire the president because of this? Ollie has losing seasons and three top recruits transfer (shouldn't this have raised a red flag) and the president should lose his \ her job?
Flyer.....there is way more to the story than Ollie's firing....information that is not of interest to Priders.

A very brief summary....Connecticut has been and is in a serious financial crisis for a few years....everything has been cut except for wildly excess public union compensation....UConn feels the pain but has been in the cross-hairs for years for extravagances and poor financial management....including excesses by the president. Her statements and handling of the Ollie matter are just a "last straw" type of thing. Otherwise the UConn president wouldn't even be in the discussion re a coach's dismissal.

In spite of UConn's awful financial management, including athletics, the school ranks in the top 20 among public universities. Great school....very poor financials which reflects on the president, of course,....big financial problems for athletic department largely because of football. FBS football is a financial black hole even for many Power 5 schools. Dayton can be thankful.

Bottom line: A $10 million buy-out for a coach is a calamity for UConn. And it appears the school may be stooping pretty low to avoid paying it. Sad. But they may have underestimated the power of the union!
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 03-13-2018, 03:36 PM
IndianaFlyer IndianaFlyer is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 784
Thanks: 771
Thanked 567 Times in 226 Posts
IndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
It appears to me if he did nothing but have two losing seasons and they are trying to screw him out of a contractual buyout, it is a good thing he has a union to back him.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 03-13-2018, 04:18 PM
CT Flyer CT Flyer is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,097
Thanks: 1,627
Thanked 696 Times in 400 Posts
CT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant future
Originally Posted by IndianaFlyer View Post
It appears to me if he did nothing but have two losing seasons and they are trying to screw him out of a contractual buyout, it is a good thing he has a union to back him.
UConn is banking on the NCAA finding against Ollie in the recruiting violations investigation, then they MAY have their cause.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to CT Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-14-2018)
  #42  
Old 03-13-2018, 04:20 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
Flyer.....there is way more to the story than Ollie's firing....information that is not of interest to Priders.

A very brief summary....Connecticut has been and is in a serious financial crisis for a few years....everything has been cut except for wildly excess public union compensation....UConn feels the pain but has been in the cross-hairs for years for extravagances and poor financial management....including excesses by the president. Her statements and handling of the Ollie matter are just a "last straw" type of thing. Otherwise the UConn president wouldn't even be in the discussion re a coach's dismissal.

In spite of UConn's awful financial management, including athletics, the school ranks in the top 20 among public universities. Great school....very poor financials which reflects on the president, of course,....big financial problems for athletic department largely because of football. FBS football is a financial black hole even for many Power 5 schools. Dayton can be thankful.

Bottom line: A $10 million buy-out for a coach is a calamity for UConn. And it appears the school may be stooping pretty low to avoid paying it. Sad. But they may have underestimated the power of the union!
Ollie may be the last man left who doesn't want to flee the state
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 03-13-2018, 05:33 PM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Good points...

Originally Posted by CT Flyer View Post
UConn is banking on the NCAA finding against Ollie in the recruiting violations investigation, then they MAY have their cause.
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
Ollie may be the last man left who doesn't want to flee the state
The wording of Ollie's contract strongly favors the University. It says that he can be fired for "just cause" for "any" violation. So if the NCAA finds "any" violation Ollie loses....so it seems.

The sleazy part is that the "violation" mentioned so far is an impermissible summer practice...something like that. Compared to the stuff that went on at Louisville and UNC to name two, an impermissible practice is like jaywalking. Maybe the NCAA will come up with something else. But media hounds have found nothing. Ollie comes off looking like a martyr. And he has the union behind him...a most unusual situation.

The ADs job is find a "name" replacement ASAP. And if the PR gets really bad for UConn even the ADs job may be at risk. Talk of having Calhoun come back for a year or two to right the ship is serious. But all this has to get straightened out fast. UConn isn't very good handling things like this. The reason for that may be that usually there is such stability at UConn that the school has little or no experience at stress management and/or damage control.

Re the second point...leaving the state. True, CT is one of a few...maybe the only...state with a declining population. The reason is economic distress resulting from horrendous long term public employee contracts that remove employee compensation/benefits from democratic control.,,they are fixed by contract. Only three other states have such a system. and they don't provide CT benefits.

It's suicidal. Nonetheless, in spite of this very serious problem, CT still ranks near the very top among states in the overall quality of life category. It's really quite good by all the important measures (except winter!)....but is in a downward spiral for sure. because of the unions....which own the Democratic legislature....(and may save Ollie).

Last edited by UACFlyer; 03-13-2018 at 05:38 PM..
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to UACFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-14-2018)
  #44  
Old 03-13-2018, 07:39 PM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,433
Thanks: 10,511
Thanked 5,735 Times in 3,265 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
If someone, or school, is breaking a contract, you do not need a union to fight it, which means in the end you go to arbitration. You hire an attorney and try to work it out, or you can still agree to arbitration.

In the end if Ollie signed a contract, that allows UConn an easy out, shame on him, but this was his first big job, so he was anxious to sign, and had little leverage. No union is going to save him from the facts.

Part of the problem when you have a union and an arbitrator rules against you, there is no legal recourse and no appeal.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to jack72 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-14-2018)
  #45  
Old 03-13-2018, 08:51 PM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Reality

Originally Posted by jack72 View Post
If someone, or school, is breaking a contract, you do not need a union to fight it, which means in the end you go to arbitration. You hire an attorney and try to work it out, or you can still agree to arbitration.

In the end if Ollie signed a contract, that allows UConn an easy out, shame on him, but this was his first big job, so he was anxious to sign, and had little leverage. No union is going to save him from the facts.

Part of the problem when you have a union and an arbitrator rules against you, there is no legal recourse and no appeal.
That sounds good Jack. But isn't the reality of negotiations involving public employee unions...certainly not in CT.

Ollies' union has already taught the UConn administration a lesson that they should have been well aware of. They can't just fire a coach. Firing a union member has to follow a specific process as outlined in the union contract....not the coach's contract. Ollie has been suspended...with pay...pending a work-through of the matter according to union rules. That is going to take some time...a lot longer than it will take UConn to hire a new coach.

UConn will soon have two men's BB coaches....the new hire and Ollie. Ollie will no longer coach UConn basketball, of course. And if the dispute between Ollie and UConn gets as far as arbitration, as you suggest might happen, then Ollie is golden. In CT the deck is stacked. The arbitrator always favors the employee...always.

UConn will be smart enough not to let it get that far....especially if any rule(s) Ollie violated are trivial. According to Ollie's contract the law may be on UConn's side. But, the violations had better turn out to be significant. If they are not the public employee's union will eat UConn's lunch. UConn will wind up paying Ollie a lot of money while enduring an embarrassing tsunami of bad publicity.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to UACFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
BOF02 (03-14-2018)
  #46  
Old 03-14-2018, 02:42 PM
cj's Avatar
cj cj is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,097
Thanks: 2,692
Thanked 3,422 Times in 1,795 Posts
cj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond reputecj has a reputation beyond repute
Tubby Smith is out at Memphis after only 2 years. I hope we aren't that impatient if next year doesn't meet smittys expectations.
__________________
Give liberals an inch and they will take the country.
Reply With Quote
3 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to cj For This Totally Excellent Post:
Beatty Town Coach (03-15-2018), CT Flyer (03-14-2018), Lifelong Flyer Fan (03-14-2018)
  #47  
Old 03-14-2018, 02:53 PM
CE80's Avatar
CE80 CE80 is online now
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,152
Thanks: 4,282
Thanked 4,922 Times in 2,423 Posts
CE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by cj View Post
Tubby Smith is out at Memphis after only 2 years. I hope we aren't that impatient if next year doesn't meet smittys expectations.
There is a battle going on there. Tubby says Penny Hardaway is undermining him because he wants the job.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to CE80 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-14-2018)
  #48  
Old 03-14-2018, 05:13 PM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,756
Thanks: 4,117
Thanked 3,344 Times in 2,206 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by cj View Post
Tubby Smith is out at Memphis after only 2 years. I hope we aren't that impatient if next year doesn't meet smittys expectations.
48 year low this year for attendance at Memphis home games.


Memphis on the hook for $9.75 million owed to Tubby. Yikes.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to ud2 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-15-2018)
  #49  
Old 03-14-2018, 05:16 PM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,756
Thanks: 4,117
Thanked 3,344 Times in 2,206 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
Thad Matta turns down the Georgia job. He was reportedly offered in the range of $15 million over 5 years.

Ole Miss hires Middle Tennessee State hc Kermit Davis.

Utah State hc fired after only 3 years. Seems like schools are getting less patient these days...Tubby 2 years, Stallings 2 years.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 03-14-2018, 05:34 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
Thad Matta turns down the Georgia job. He was reportedly offered in the range of $15 million over 5 years.

Ole Miss hires Middle Tennessee State hc Kermit Davis.

Utah State hc fired after only 3 years. Seems like schools are getting less patient these days...Tubby 2 years, Stallings 2 years.
Tubby couldn't recruit the kids in the Memphis metro area. Fans quit showing up and that hurts the bottomline

The excuses don't fly anymore. With transfers, grad transfers, etc you can turn around a college program faster than ever.

Jaime Dixon went into TCU, which is the worst basketball program in the Big 12, and inherited a team that went 4-14 in conference play. 2 years later they're a sixth seed with the school's first tourney birth since 1998.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-15-2018)
  #51  
Old 03-15-2018, 08:49 AM
Radar Radar is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,167
Thanks: 1,301
Thanked 1,472 Times in 711 Posts
Radar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond reputeRadar has a reputation beyond repute
Per Dickie V, you can mark it down: Crean to Georgia
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to Radar For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-15-2018)
  #52  
Old 03-15-2018, 10:21 AM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,433
Thanks: 10,511
Thanked 5,735 Times in 3,265 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
And if the dispute between Ollie and UConn gets as far as arbitration, as you suggest might happen, then Ollie is golden. In CT the deck is stacked. The arbitrator always favors the employee...always.

UConn will be smart enough not to let it get that far....especially if any rule(s) Ollie violated are trivial. According to Ollie's contract the law may be on UConn's side. But, the violations had better turn out to be significant. If they are not the public employee's union will eat UConn's lunch. UConn will wind up paying Ollie a lot of money while enduring an embarrassing tsunami of bad publicity.
UAC, that is not how Arbitration works. The process can vary slightly based on the Management/Union Contract, but is similar to this. A panel of arbitrators is submitted to both sides, then each side gets to strike an arbitrator, until there is agreement. If all names are struck off, another panel of names is requested, and the the alternating striking takes place again. I have been involved in many arbitrations, and never have ended up with a pro employee or management arbitrator, because you do your vetting and strike.

The arbitrators are from the American Arbitration Association, not the state.

Last edited by jack72; 03-15-2018 at 10:24 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 03-15-2018, 11:22 AM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Not in CT

Originally Posted by jack72 View Post
UAC, that is not how Arbitration works. The process can vary slightly based on the Management/Union Contract, but is similar to this. A panel of arbitrators is submitted to both sides, then each side gets to strike an arbitrator, until there is agreement. If all names are struck off, another panel of names is requested, and the the alternating striking takes place again. I have been involved in many arbitrations, and never have ended up with a pro employee or management arbitrator, because you do your vetting and strike.

The arbitrators are from the American Arbitration Association, not the state.
In CT's system of binding arbitration for public employees the employees always come out on top. The deck is stacked. In Ollie's case I don't think it will get that far.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to UACFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
OSU Flyer (03-15-2018)
  #54  
Old 03-15-2018, 07:42 PM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is online now
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,470
Thanks: 196
Thanked 5,542 Times in 1,425 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Tom Crean to become the next UGA's Coach
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 03-15-2018, 07:47 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Tom Crean to become the next UGA's Coach
good luck recruiting Atlanta
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 03-16-2018, 07:56 AM
Flyer68 Flyer68 is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 809
Thanks: 1
Thanked 363 Times in 206 Posts
Flyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond reputeFlyer68 has a reputation beyond repute
If true, takes Crean out of the UConn rumors. Rumor still strong in northeast, is UCONN waiting for URI to exit to talk to Hurley.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 03-16-2018, 10:41 AM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,756
Thanks: 4,117
Thanked 3,344 Times in 2,206 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Tom Crean to become the next UGA's Coach
Bad hire.


Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
good luck recruiting Atlanta
What's the story on recruiting the ATL?
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 03-16-2018, 12:33 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
Bad hire.




What's the story on recruiting the ATL?
Lot of HS/AAU drama. Then add in the fact most people in Atlanta aren't from Georgia so they don't have the attachment to the state school
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
ud2 (03-20-2018)
  #59  
Old 03-17-2018, 12:16 AM
IndianaFlyer IndianaFlyer is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 784
Thanks: 771
Thanked 567 Times in 226 Posts
IndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Good for Crean. Nice guy, glad to see him land on his feet.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 03-17-2018, 01:02 AM
Flyer2 Flyer2 is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 603
Thanks: 235
Thanked 265 Times in 157 Posts
Flyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant futureFlyer2 has a brilliant future
Every time I hear Union I want to vomit. The need for "Unions" in the early1900's was a necessity to protect the people. I watched the PBS show on the Copper Mine war in the UP of Michigan and it was disgusting what our pillars of industry did to the workers.

I worked on the assembly line at Frigidaire and was a member of the Union and then as a foreman and engineer. I have nothing good to say. GM screwed the Delco white collar workers big time and it is not settled yet.

UAW was responsible for NCR leaving town. NCR had a retiree rate of about 80% - You went to work at NCR and you retired from NCR.

UAW has about a 35% retiree rate.

So if you look at the Dollars NCR had to pay retiree's it was the same amount for if you were a NCR union member or UAW member. So NCR bailed and 10,000 jobs left town.

Sorry about the rant but the Union Bosses along with the GM bosses were idiots.
Reply With Quote
6 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Flyer2 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Avid Flyer (03-17-2018), jack72 (03-17-2018), Jeff (03-17-2018), JimBo (03-17-2018), jpk4ud (03-17-2018), OSU Flyer (03-17-2018)
  #61  
Old 03-17-2018, 07:23 AM
BRob2Perryman3's Avatar
BRob2Perryman3 BRob2Perryman3 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: #FlyerNation
Posts: 2,574
Thanks: 2,271
Thanked 2,302 Times in 1,116 Posts
BRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond repute
Rant is cool, a 100% Union post will fly. Just don't start a John Crosby thread.
__________________
#RoadtoMinneapolis
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to BRob2Perryman3 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Jeff (03-17-2018), rollo (03-17-2018)
  #62  
Old 03-17-2018, 08:23 AM
CE80's Avatar
CE80 CE80 is online now
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,152
Thanks: 4,282
Thanked 4,922 Times in 2,423 Posts
CE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by BRob2Perryman3 View Post
Rant is cool, a 100% Union post will fly. Just don't start a John Crosby thread.
UMBC's point guard is graduating - just saying.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to CE80 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-17-2018)
  #63  
Old 03-17-2018, 08:48 AM
Avid Flyer's Avatar
Avid Flyer Avid Flyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 8,558
Thanks: 3,463
Thanked 3,652 Times in 1,865 Posts
Avid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeAvid Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Arrow

Originally Posted by Flyer2 View Post
Every time I hear Union I want to vomit. The need for "Unions" in the early1900's was a necessity to protect the people. I watched the PBS show on the Copper Mine war in the UP of Michigan and it was disgusting what our pillars of industry did to the workers.

I worked on the assembly line at Frigidaire and was a member of the Union and then as a foreman and engineer. I have nothing good to say. GM screwed the Delco white collar workers big time and it is not settled yet.

UAW was responsible for NCR leaving town. NCR had a retiree rate of about 80% - You went to work at NCR and you retired from NCR.

UAW has about a 35% retiree rate.

So if you look at the Dollars NCR had to pay retiree's it was the same amount for if you were a NCR union member or UAW member. So NCR bailed and 10,000 jobs left town.

Sorry about the rant but the Union Bosses along with the GM bosses were idiots.
don.t forget Dayton Tire & Rubber. Worked night shift while taking college classes. DTR built a large warehouse across from factory which would hold 6 months supply of tires. There was a contest to see how fast the tirebuilders could fill that warehouse. It was filled just before thanksgiving. All went home feeling food about meeting the challenge. All while the workers were without a new contract being negotiated by the union.

After thanksgiving the union declared they were unable to come to terms with DTR and went on strike. The strike lasted 5 months. Remember the warehouse held 6 months of tires, so the company wasn't hurt at all, in fact earned a nice little increase in profits not having to pay labor.

No way you can convince me that the union wasn't in cahoots with DTR.
Then the new radial tires became the norm and DTR changed equipment to make those radials and alongwith it a new pay rate. Union balked saying they would not build radial tires.......DTR then moved to Oklahoma,

Unions destroyed Dayton and blue collar jobs.

Last edited by Avid Flyer; 03-17-2018 at 08:51 AM..
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to Avid Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
UDGutter2 (03-17-2018)
  #64  
Old 03-17-2018, 09:13 AM
springborofan springborofan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Springboro
Posts: 1,305
Thanks: 1,092
Thanked 1,454 Times in 584 Posts
springborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Flyer2 View Post
Every time I hear Union I want to vomit. The need for "Unions" in the early1900's was a necessity to protect the people. I watched the PBS show on the Copper Mine war in the UP of Michigan and it was disgusting what our pillars of industry did to the workers.

I worked on the assembly line at Frigidaire and was a member of the Union and then as a foreman and engineer. I have nothing good to say. GM screwed the Delco white collar workers big time and it is not settled yet.

UAW was responsible for NCR leaving town. NCR had a retiree rate of about 80% - You went to work at NCR and you retired from NCR.

UAW has about a 35% retiree rate.

So if you look at the Dollars NCR had to pay retiree's it was the same amount for if you were a NCR union member or UAW member. So NCR bailed and 10,000 jobs left town.

Sorry about the rant but the Union Bosses along with the GM bosses were idiots.
You need to clarify your comments about NCR. I think you mean NCR MANUFACTURING left town. NCR HQ stayed and left town only because one evil man didn't want to live in Dayton, OH. Bill Nuti's current physical afflictions are just a preview for how he'll spend eternity...
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 03-17-2018, 09:25 AM
Jeff Jeff is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: OKC
Posts: 1,041
Thanks: 443
Thanked 533 Times in 290 Posts
Jeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
Lot of HS/AAU drama. Then add in the fact most people in Atlanta aren't from Georgia so they don't have the attachment to the state school
Lived in ATL. Most of the out of towners are tech related. Those kids aren't the ones being recruited.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 03-17-2018, 09:52 AM
foolishpride foolishpride is offline
2nd Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 93
Thanks: 63
Thanked 45 Times in 27 Posts
foolishpride is a glorious beacon of lightfoolishpride is a glorious beacon of lightfoolishpride is a glorious beacon of lightfoolishpride is a glorious beacon of lightfoolishpride is a glorious beacon of lightfoolishpride is a glorious beacon of light
Originally Posted by Flyer2 View Post
Every time I hear Union I want to vomit. The need for "Unions" in the early1900's was a necessity to protect the people. I watched the PBS show on the Copper Mine war in the UP of Michigan and it was disgusting what our pillars of industry did to the workers.

I worked on the assembly line at Frigidaire and was a member of the Union and then as a foreman and engineer. I have nothing good to say. GM screwed the Delco white collar workers big time and it is not settled yet.

UAW was responsible for NCR leaving town. NCR had a retiree rate of about 80% - You went to work at NCR and you retired from NCR.

UAW has about a 35% retiree rate.

So if you look at the Dollars NCR had to pay retiree's it was the same amount for if you were a NCR union member or UAW member. So NCR bailed and 10,000 jobs left town.

Sorry about the rant but the Union Bosses along with the GM bosses were idiots.
Please don't paint your hatred for Unions with such a wide brush. I'm a skilled trades union member, and comparing the UAW to the IBEW is apples and oranges. Unions like the UAW give all Unions a bad name. In a skilled trades Union, if you aren't productive, you won't be employed very long.
Reply With Quote
3 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to foolishpride For This Totally Excellent Post:
cj (03-17-2018), Flyer 86 (03-17-2018), rollo (03-17-2018)
  #67  
Old 03-17-2018, 10:24 AM
Ready Action Ready Action is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,424
Thanks: 444
Thanked 598 Times in 290 Posts
Ready Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant future
Originally Posted by springborofan View Post
You need to clarify your comments about NCR. I think you mean NCR MANUFACTURING left town. NCR HQ stayed and left town only because one evil man didn't want to live in Dayton, OH. Bill Nuti's current physical afflictions are just a preview for how he'll spend eternity...
Nuti fought for a couple of years the thought of having to reside in Dayton even though NCR's charter clearly stated the CEO must reside where the HQ is located. All of the previous CEO's in NCR's 100+ year history resided in the Dayton area. Nuti gave all kinds of excuses including stating he needed to stay on the east coast another year so he could care for his ailing mother. What he was doing all along was buying time to get his buddies on the board and hence the move to Georgia. One year soon after the move,Nuti was voted the worst CEO in America and to this very day his employee approval rate remains very low. That NCR stuff to this day still burns in my belly, now back to basketball.
Reply With Quote
3 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Ready Action For This Totally Excellent Post:
SeasonTicketFan (03-17-2018), springborofan (03-17-2018), ud2 (03-20-2018)
  #68  
Old 03-17-2018, 11:19 AM
springborofan springborofan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Springboro
Posts: 1,305
Thanks: 1,092
Thanked 1,454 Times in 584 Posts
springborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Ready Action View Post
Nuti fought for a couple of years the thought of having to reside in Dayton even though NCR's charter clearly stated the CEO must reside where the HQ is located. All of the previous CEO's in NCR's 100+ year history resided in the Dayton area. Nuti gave all kinds of excuses including stating he needed to stay on the east coast another year so he could care for his ailing mother. What he was doing all along was buying time to get his buddies on the board and hence the move to Georgia. One year soon after the move,Nuti was voted the worst CEO in America and to this very day his employee approval rate remains very low. That NCR stuff to this day still burns in my belly, now back to basketball.
The Teradata spin off was not about unlocking investor value. It was about Nuti hand picking his board after the spin off. There is a special place in he!! for that guy. I agree...back to basketball!
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to springborofan For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-17-2018), SeasonTicketFan (03-17-2018)
  #69  
Old 03-17-2018, 02:29 PM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
The bright side...very bright side.

Originally Posted by Ready Action View Post
Nuti fought for a couple of years the thought of having to reside in Dayton even though NCR's charter clearly stated the CEO must reside where the HQ is located. All of the previous CEO's in NCR's 100+ year history resided in the Dayton area. Nuti gave all kinds of excuses including stating he needed to stay on the east coast another year so he could care for his ailing mother. What he was doing all along was buying time to get his buddies on the board and hence the move to Georgia. One year soon after the move,Nuti was voted the worst CEO in America and to this very day his employee approval rate remains very low. That NCR stuff to this day still burns in my belly, now back to basketball.
Originally Posted by springborofan View Post
The Teradata spin off was not about unlocking investor value. It was about Nuti hand picking his board after the spin off. There is a special place in he!! for that guy. I agree...back to basketball!
When NCR was in Town ruling the south-end roost UD was a land-locked school forced to put buildings practically on top of one another. NCR might have sold off property to a developer to build god-knows-what.

Instead, with a true visionary running UD, when NCR left UD snapped up all the available NCR property...transforming the University in way that would have been impossible to even imagine just 20 years ago. NCR's leaving made UD!

Today the UD-MVH ed-med complex dominates the south end of town and much of its prime land...even the Fairgrounds. And we have two blue-chip tenants in place, GE and Emerson. There is room for at least one more for the NW corner of the property. Will UD luck out and land another fish like GE or Emerson? Who knows.....but it would be great if we did.

Whatever, none of what has transformed UD over the last decade plus would have been possible had NCR remained in Dayton. Talk about turning lemons into lemonade!
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 03-17-2018, 02:33 PM
NCkevi's Avatar
NCkevi NCkevi is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,026
Thanks: 326
Thanked 2,641 Times in 1,086 Posts
NCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by flyer2 View Post
every time i hear union i want to vomit. The need for "unions" in the early1900's was a necessity to protect the people. I watched the pbs show on the copper mine war in the up of michigan and it was disgusting what our pillars of industry did to the workers.

I worked on the assembly line at frigidaire and was a member of the union and then as a foreman and engineer. I have nothing good to say. Gm screwed the delco white collar workers big time and it is not settled yet.

Uaw was responsible for ncr leaving town. Ncr had a retiree rate of about 80% - you went to work at ncr and you retired from ncr.

Uaw has about a 35% retiree rate.

So if you look at the dollars ncr had to pay retiree's it was the same amount for if you were a ncr union member or uaw member. So ncr bailed and 10,000 jobs left town.

Sorry about the rant but the union bosses along with the gm bosses were idiots.
can we f'ing move this to the off topic thread???
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 03-17-2018, 06:50 PM
BRob2Perryman3's Avatar
BRob2Perryman3 BRob2Perryman3 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: #FlyerNation
Posts: 2,574
Thanks: 2,271
Thanked 2,302 Times in 1,116 Posts
BRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond reputeBRob2Perryman3 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by NCkevi View Post
can we f'ing move this to the off topic thread???
Or close it? Moving is what should be done to an actual off-topic thread. I think closing is more for UD basketball related threads over hurt feelings.
__________________
#RoadtoMinneapolis
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 03-18-2018, 12:58 AM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
https://247sports.com/college/temple...week-116313119

Fran Dunphy could be getting fired
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 03-18-2018, 10:08 AM
springborofan springborofan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Springboro
Posts: 1,305
Thanks: 1,092
Thanked 1,454 Times in 584 Posts
springborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond reputespringborofan has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
https://247sports.com/college/temple...week-116313119

Fran Dunphy could be getting fired
That would suck as he is one of the good guys in college basketball.

Are there any A10 coaches on the hot seat? I thought Mooney at Richmond was toast earlier this year but they rebounded in the conference schedule. Coaching continuity is good for the A10. Hurley will be gone but I hope Schmidt stays at Bona.
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 03-18-2018, 10:19 AM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
UConn

Still not a hint from UConn re Ollie's replacement....although media reports focus on Hurely.
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 03-18-2018, 10:25 AM
Lifelong Flyer Fan Lifelong Flyer Fan is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,279
Thanks: 4,521
Thanked 3,483 Times in 1,248 Posts
Lifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
Still not a hint from UConn re Ollie's replacement....although media reports focus on Hurely.
Here is one: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...ournament-loss
Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 03-18-2018, 10:33 AM
Buckleyma's Avatar
Buckleyma Buckleyma is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 503
Thanks: 14
Thanked 239 Times in 144 Posts
Buckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by UACFlyer View Post
When NCR was in Town ruling the south-end roost UD was a land-locked school forced to put buildings practically on top of one another. NCR might have sold off property to a developer to build god-knows-what.

Instead, with a true visionary running UD, when NCR left UD snapped up all the available NCR property...transforming the University in way that would have been impossible to even imagine just 20 years ago. NCR's leaving made UD!

Today the UD-MVH ed-med complex dominates the south end of town and much of its prime land...even the Fairgrounds. And we have two blue-chip tenants in place, GE and Emerson. There is room for at least one more for the NW corner of the property. Will UD luck out and land another fish like GE or Emerson? Who knows.....but it would be great if we did.

Whatever, none of what has transformed UD over the last decade plus would have been possible had NCR remained in Dayton. Talk about turning lemons into lemonade!
When i attended UD, in the late 1970ís, my accounting instructor told the class that he was a part of a committe to evaluate NCRís offer to transfer a large amonut of land to the university of Dayton. This was after many of the buildings were demolished but prior to all of the smoke stacks being demolished. There was much talk about building a new football stadium on part of the land and taking over the old river park. My accounting instructor said that the taxes were so high in the way the transfer would take place that the committee voted NOT to accept NCRís offer. So, it was not until much later when this transfer took place and not until after the offer had been turned down, at least once.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 03-18-2018, 10:43 AM
UACFlyer UACFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,588
Thanks: 3,227
Thanked 3,794 Times in 2,298 Posts
UACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeUACFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
For the best.....

Originally Posted by Buckleyma View Post
When i attended UD, in the late 1970ís, my accounting instructor told the class that he was a part of a committe to evaluate NCRís offer to transfer a large amonut of land to the university of Dayton. This was after many of the buildings were demolished but prior to all of the smoke stacks being demolished. There was much talk about building a new football stadium on part of the land and taking over the old river park. My accounting instructor said that the taxes were so high in the way the transfer would take place that the committee voted NOT to accept NCRís offer. So, it was not until much later when this transfer took place and not until after the offer had been turned down, at least once.
Posted via Mobile Device
Turned out well...very well. As I recall, though, UD paid $50 million for the first 50 acre parcel incl Fitz Hall building.....then $25 million for the much larger ~ 100 acre parcel incl the HQ bldg. and River Park. Doesn't matter...we've got 'em.

The 25 acres bordering Patterson contains GE and Emerson...but there remains plenty of room for at least one more major tenant. Not an easy thing to land the "right" major-company tenant. Dayton's depressed economy still an issue, I think. I realize Dayton is on the road back and is making steady progress. But the region still is a shadow of its former self and much needs to be done.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to UACFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-19-2018)
  #78  
Old 03-18-2018, 10:43 AM
Buckleyma's Avatar
Buckleyma Buckleyma is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 503
Thanks: 14
Thanked 239 Times in 144 Posts
Buckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud ofBuckleyma has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by Buckleyma View Post
When i attended UD, in the late 1970ís, my accounting instructor told the class that he was a part of a committe to evaluate NCRís offer to transfer a large amonut of land to the university of Dayton. This was after many of the buildings were demolished but prior to all of the smoke stacks being demolished. There was much talk about building a new football stadium on part of the land and taking over the old river park. My accounting instructor said that the taxes were so high in the way the transfer would take place that the committee voted NOT to accept NCRís offer. So, it was not until much later when this transfer took place and not until after the offer had been turned down, at least once.
Posted via Mobile Device
Of course as we know, instead of re-committing to football; the decision was was made in the mid/late 1970ís to drop division 1 football. Several of my classmates were division 1 football players and they were most upset by that decision. Most of them transferred to other schools like Pudue. He
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 03-18-2018, 10:46 AM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,433
Thanks: 10,511
Thanked 5,735 Times in 3,265 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by springborofan View Post
That would suck as he is one of the good guys in college basketball.

Are there any A10 coaches on the hot seat? I thought Mooney at Richmond was toast earlier this year but they rebounded in the conference schedule. Coaching continuity is good for the A10. Hurley will be gone but I hope Schmidt stays at Bona.
I agree on Richmond. Early in the year, he was all about Mooney needs to move on. Now he says everyone is pretty pleased, especially given their young team.
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 03-18-2018, 11:01 AM
CE80's Avatar
CE80 CE80 is online now
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,152
Thanks: 4,282
Thanked 4,922 Times in 2,423 Posts
CE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond repute
Dr. G?
Reply With Quote
  #81  
Old 03-18-2018, 11:14 AM
IndianaFlyer IndianaFlyer is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 784
Thanks: 771
Thanked 567 Times in 226 Posts
IndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeIndianaFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
I wish people who just continue to hijack threads would have their accounts suspended for 30 days, then maybe they would take their personal discussions to the off topic threads. It is really frustrating to log on to read about a particular topic only to have to read their trash.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to IndianaFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Figgie123 (03-18-2018)
  #82  
Old 03-18-2018, 12:14 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by CE80 View Post
Dr. G?
G should be but I would think if they were going to do it would happen by now. He hasn't been able to get anything going since the Sweet 16 & they lose B.J. Johnson, Tony Washington and crew
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 03-19-2018, 11:42 AM
Ready Action Ready Action is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,424
Thanks: 444
Thanked 598 Times in 290 Posts
Ready Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant future
Penny Hardaway agrees to be next Memphis coach

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...s-tigers-coach

Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Ready Action For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-19-2018), OSU Flyer (03-19-2018)
  #84  
Old 03-19-2018, 12:30 PM
Viperstick Viperstick is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Feeling the need for speed...
Posts: 3,275
Thanks: 2,042
Thanked 2,168 Times in 935 Posts
Viperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond reputeViperstick has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Ready Action View Post
Penny Hardaway agrees to be next Memphis coach

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...s-tigers-coach

Patrick Ewing & Chris Mullen say hi from the off season.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to Viperstick For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-19-2018)
  #85  
Old 03-19-2018, 12:56 PM
Medford Medford is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Dayton
Posts: 4,270
Thanks: 437
Thanked 2,555 Times in 1,280 Posts
Medford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond repute
The biggest difference is that Penny is super connected to the AAU and HS scene in and around Memphis. Heck, it was only a year ago that I surmised that CAG should be hitting Memphis hard in the coming years as it appeared from the outside that Tubby was all but ignoring the rich recruiting area right in his backyard. Reports since then seem to indicate that Penny may have been playing a huge role in hometown kids staying away from the Memphis program while Tubby was there (no idea why, other than perhaps he wanted to be their head coach and figured that was the easiest path).

Anyhoo, I think Penny will do a better job at Memphis than Ewing and Mullen have done at G'Town and St Johns. Both Ewing and Mullins have spent their entire post NBA careers in and around the NBA game, they really don't have much of a connection to the AAU or high school scene (though perhaps Ewing did at one point when his son went thru it, but that's been a while). Penny is dripping in AAU/HS connections, especially in the talent rich area of Memphis.

Time will tell of course.
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 03-19-2018, 01:02 PM
CT Flyer CT Flyer is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 1,097
Thanks: 1,627
Thanked 696 Times in 400 Posts
CT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant futureCT Flyer has a brilliant future
Originally Posted by Medford View Post
The biggest difference is that Penny is super connected to the AAU and HS scene in and around Memphis. Heck, it was only a year ago that I surmised that CAG should be hitting Memphis hard in the coming years as it appeared from the outside that Tubby was all but ignoring the rich recruiting area right in his backyard. Reports since then seem to indicate that Penny may have been playing a huge role in hometown kids staying away from the Memphis program while Tubby was there (no idea why, other than perhaps he wanted to be their head coach and figured that was the easiest path).

Anyhoo, I think Penny will do a better job at Memphis than Ewing and Mullen have done at G'Town and St Johns. Both Ewing and Mullins have spent their entire post NBA careers in and around the NBA game, they really don't have much of a connection to the AAU or high school scene (though perhaps Ewing did at one point when his son went thru it, but that's been a while). Penny is dripping in AAU/HS connections, especially in the talent rich area of Memphis.

Time will tell of course.
A little early to say Ewing hasn't done well. His team was very competitive in the Big East this year in his first year. I was actually impressed with some of the things they were doing on the court in comparison to JT III. It's too early to say he'll be successful for sure but I think his first year was promising.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to CT Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-19-2018)
  #87  
Old 03-19-2018, 01:35 PM
CE80's Avatar
CE80 CE80 is online now
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,152
Thanks: 4,282
Thanked 4,922 Times in 2,423 Posts
CE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Medford View Post
The biggest difference is that Penny is super connected to the AAU and HS scene in and around Memphis. Heck, it was only a year ago that I surmised that CAG should be hitting Memphis hard in the coming years as it appeared from the outside that Tubby was all but ignoring the rich recruiting area right in his backyard. Reports since then seem to indicate that Penny may have been playing a huge role in hometown kids staying away from the Memphis program while Tubby was there (no idea why, other than perhaps he wanted to be their head coach and figured that was the easiest path).

Anyhoo, I think Penny will do a better job at Memphis than Ewing and Mullen have done at G'Town and St Johns. Both Ewing and Mullins have spent their entire post NBA careers in and around the NBA game, they really don't have much of a connection to the AAU or high school scene (though perhaps Ewing did at one point when his son went thru it, but that's been a while). Penny is dripping in AAU/HS connections, especially in the talent rich area of Memphis.

Time will tell of course.
Do we have to give them Crutcher?
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old 03-19-2018, 01:48 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,760
Thanks: 1,043
Thanked 1,692 Times in 979 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
If Penny is getting top 50-100 level talent that could open the door for the caliber of guys who end up at Ole Miss out of there
Reply With Quote
  #89  
Old 03-19-2018, 01:51 PM
NCkevi's Avatar
NCkevi NCkevi is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,026
Thanks: 326
Thanked 2,641 Times in 1,086 Posts
NCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond reputeNCkevi has a reputation beyond repute
Recruiting is only part of the job - will be interesting to see what Penny does with zero experience, head or assistant, at the D1 level
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old 03-19-2018, 02:31 PM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,433
Thanks: 10,511
Thanked 5,735 Times in 3,265 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by CE80 View Post
Do we have to give them Crutcher?
Shhh!
Reply With Quote
  #91  
Old 03-19-2018, 02:33 PM
Medford Medford is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Dayton
Posts: 4,270
Thanks: 437
Thanked 2,555 Times in 1,280 Posts
Medford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond reputeMedford has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by CE80 View Post
Do we have to give them Crutcher?
H-E-Double Hockey Sticks No!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 03-19-2018, 02:41 PM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,433
Thanks: 10,511
Thanked 5,735 Times in 3,265 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
Memphis is a great town to visit if you stay down in the Beale Street area. For a kid like Crutch, he is probably glad to get out of his neighborhood and Dodge. Memphis is exhibit A for the haves and have nots.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to jack72 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (03-26-2018)
  #93  
Old 03-19-2018, 03:13 PM
Ready Action Ready Action is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,424
Thanks: 444
Thanked 598 Times in 290 Posts
Ready Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant futureReady Action has a brilliant future
Originally Posted by NCkevi View Post
Recruiting is only part of the job - will be interesting to see what Penny does with zero experience, head or assistant, at the D1 level
FWIW, rumor is Penny will have Larry Brown on his staff.

Originally Posted by jack72 View Post
Memphis is a great town to visit if you stay down in the Beale Street area. For a kid like Crutch, he is probably glad to get out of his neighborhood and Dodge. Memphis is exhibit A for the haves and have nots.
You are correct. Most of those kids have love for the city, but they want to get away for a bit. That is why I'm hoping Crutcher is telling some of his more talented bball buddies to come on up as there is a wealth of talent in Memphis and the tri-state area.
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 03-19-2018, 05:51 PM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is online now
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,470
Thanks: 196
Thanked 5,542 Times in 1,425 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Looks like Hurley to UConn
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 03-19-2018, 06:51 PM
Lifelong Flyer Fan Lifelong Flyer Fan is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,279
Thanks: 4,521
Thanked 3,483 Times in 1,248 Posts
Lifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond repute
maybe not
https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/stat...65439078240257
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 03-19-2018, 10:25 PM
CE80's Avatar
CE80 CE80 is online now
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,152
Thanks: 4,282
Thanked 4,922 Times in 2,423 Posts
CE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond reputeCE80 has a reputation beyond repute
Didn't Hurley use the Rutgers job a couple of years ago to improve his deal and his assistant's deal at URI? Neither Pitt or UConn jobs are currently at the level they once were and the URI gig is not a terrible one. Maybe he stays at URI a bit longer until an even better job opens up.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to CE80 For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (03-20-2018)
  #97  
Old 03-20-2018, 12:23 AM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,756
Thanks: 4,117
Thanked 3,344 Times in 2,206 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
G should be...
Mooney should be gone IMO. I do not understand why UR is keeping him around. He has been given plenty of time.

No NCAAT for the last 7 years.

Last edited by ud2; 03-20-2018 at 12:49 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 03-20-2018, 12:27 AM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,756
Thanks: 4,117
Thanked 3,344 Times in 2,206 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Ready Action View Post
Nuti fought for a couple of years the thought of having to reside in Dayton even though NCR's charter clearly stated the CEO must reside where the HQ is located. All of the previous CEO's in NCR's 100+ year history resided in the Dayton area. Nuti gave all kinds of excuses including stating he needed to stay on the east coast another year so he could care for his ailing mother. What he was doing all along was buying time to get his buddies on the board and hence the move to Georgia. One year soon after the move,Nuti was voted the worst CEO in America and to this very day his employee approval rate remains very low. That NCR stuff to this day still burns in my belly, now back to basketball.
Why didn't somebody sue/do something to stop this? The CEO living in Dayton was in the charter, this never should have been allowed to happen. Is the charter meaningless?

Around 125+ years in Dayton, and then the company just up and leaves. It is infuriating!

Last edited by ud2; 03-20-2018 at 12:30 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 03-20-2018, 12:45 AM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,756
Thanks: 4,117
Thanked 3,344 Times in 2,206 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by springborofan View Post
That would suck as he is one of the good guys in college basketball.
Probably time for Dunphy to be let go. Temple has regressed lately. No NCAAT 4 out of the last 5 years.
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 03-20-2018, 06:22 AM
T-Bone 84's Avatar
T-Bone 84 T-Bone 84 is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shiloh, OH
Posts: 4,015
Thanks: 2,112
Thanked 2,444 Times in 1,285 Posts
T-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond repute
Saw where Evansville terminated the contract of Marty Simmons after 11 seasons, and that one of their targeted candidates is Travis Steele, Mackís top assistant at X. That got me thinking:
1) That would kind of bring things full-circle, since Mack started his playing career at UE, then transferred to X, then became coach at X, only to have an assistant become coach at UE. And
2) Will catcherís masks need to become part of the standard basketball uniform in the Missouri Valley Conference next year? You know. To protect against thrown basketballs?
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement System V2.6 By   Branden

     
 
Copyright 1996-2012 UDPride.com. All Rights Reserved.