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Old 11-14-2016, 10:31 AM
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2016-17 Games of note:

A few days late; I'll apply the usual disclaimer that I put at the top each year (because there is always the 1 guy/gal): If all you care about is UD basketball and believe that as long as UD takes care of themselves, it doesn't matter what their opponents do, then this is NOT the thread for you, so don't start belly aching. While technically you are correct, an undefeated UD season would end in a national title, I'm going to make the assumption that there will be bumps along the road, other teams to jump in the rankings, or just flat out games across the landscape that are worth paying attention to. Like the last few seasons, hopefully we can compile those here. I'll thank all in advance that typically help keep this thread moving along with observations about games played, UD's opponents, and just picking up the slack.

So yesterday:

Nebraska knocked off Sacramento St.
UCLA (hopefully/maybe future opponent) won their 2nd game of the season in easy fashion.
Duquesne lost at Penn St.

Washington, who IIRC was suppose to be good w/ a highly touted young super frosh, lost to Yale.

Monday:

Hoops marathon gets going tonight, a slew of A10 games and a few OOC opponents play as well:

#4 Nova vs #15 Purdue (+2)
Marist (+21.5) @ #23 Rhody
Ol Dirty minon (+4.5) @ Richmond
UMass (+10) @ Ole Miss (kind of interested to see how UMass' young talent handles the roady)
NYIT @ Fordham
Columbia (+6.5) @ St Joeseph's (the A10 version, not the D2 school that also appears on UD's schedule)
Detroit (+12.5) @ ETSU (Michael Harmon ain't walking thru that door)
Southern Utah (+9.5) @ Saint Louis
Eastern Washington (+17) @ Northwestern (ironically neither north nor west of EWU)
San Diego St (+8.5) @ #14 Gonzaga, not sure about SDSU this year, but they are usually pretty good, I'll be well asleep by the time this one tips off
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11/14/16

A10
#21 Rhode Island 107 v. Marist 65
Ole Miss 90 v. UMass 88
Fordham 101 v. NYIT 75
Old Dominion 64 @ Richmond 61
St. Joe's 85 v. Columbia 65
SLU 88 v. S. Utah 76

UMass and Richmond go down to beatable foes, that won't help the ol' conference RPI.


Other Top 25
#3 Nova 79 @ #15 Purdue 76
#11 Xavier 86 v. Buffalo 53
#12 Louisville 91 v. W&M 58
#14 Gonzaga 69 v. SDSU 48
#19 W. Virginia 107 v. MVSU 66
#20 Iowa St. 73 v. Mt. St. Mary's 55
#23 Texas 80 v. ULM 59
#24 Cincinnati 74 v. Albany 51

Others
New Hampshire 57 @ Temple 52
Northeastern 64 @ UConn 61
Northwestern 86 v. E. Washington 72
Ohio State 69 v. UNC-Central 63
ETSU 107 v. Detroit 78
Austin Peay 107 v. Oakland City 67

UConn drops to 0-2. By the way, the Wagner team that beat them opening night? Lost to UMass-Lowell by 11.

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Pre-season polls...

Originally Posted by priceg75 View Post
11/14/16

A10
#21 Rhode Island 107 v. Marist 65
Ole Miss 90 v. UMass 88
Fordham 101 v. NYIT 75
Old Dominion 64 @ Richmond 61
St. Joe's 85 v. Columbia 65
SLU 88 v. S. Utah 76

UMass and Richmond go down to beatable foes, that won't help the ol' conference RPI.


Other Top 25
#3 Nova 79 @ #15 Purdue 76
#11 Xavier 86 v. Buffalo 53
#12 Louisville 91 v. W&M 58
#14 Gonzaga 69 v. SDSU 48
#19 W. Virginia 107 v. MVSU 66
#20 Iowa St. 73 v. Mt. St. Mary's 55
#23 Texas 80 v. ULM 59
#24 Cincinnati 74 v. Albany 51

Others
New Hampshire 57 @ Temple 52
Northeastern 64 @ UConn 61
Northwestern 86 v. E. Washington 72
Ohio State 69 v. UNC-Central 63
ETSU 107 v. Detroit 78
Austin Peay 107 v. Oakland City 67

UConn drops to 0-2. By the way, the Wagner team that beat them opening night? Lost to UMass-Lowell by 11.
If ever there was an example of the folly of pre-season polls it's UConn....ranked 16/18.

UConn lost three starters from last year that accounted for ~75% of team scoring. There are five freshmen and 3 sophs on the team....and 3 seniors who are not good. The team's play in its two losses was dreadful....with little sign of the likelihood of much improvement. A sub-five hundred season is a possibility. And the pollsters had the team at 16/18. Must be the same guys that had HRC as president.
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Tuesday 11/15:

Winthrop currently down 11-10 @ Manhattan on the ESPN marathon
Maryland (+5.5) @ G'town
Siena (+2.5) @ GW
Delaware (+15.5) @ La Salle
Miami (OH) (+8.5) @ Wright State (for poo and giggles)
Lebanon Valley @ Mason
#2 Kentucky vs #13 Mich St (+8.0)
Mary (ND) @ Nebraska
VCU @ Liberty (no line)
#9 Wisconsin @ #22 Creighton (E)
Belmont (+6) @ Vandy
#1 Duke vs #7 Kansas (+2.5)
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my lord, just brought up the Winthrop game, that Jasper court is hard to watch on TV/computer. Worse than Boise's football field.
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Speaking of "hard to watch"... flipped over to the OSU basketball game multiple times last night while watching MNF - they did not look very good. They need to improve big time, or will get roughed up in the Big Ten this year.
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Speaking of "hard to watch"... flipped over to the OSU basketball game multiple times last night while watching MNF - they did not look very good. They need to improve big time, or will get roughed up in the Big Ten this year.
They looked hideous.

Well they're tOSU, so. . .

I watched a good bit of that game and they don't have very much talent. It wasn't just that they were playing bad, they just aren't that good. I really think we would beat them 7 out of 10 times split between home courts. Maybe 8. And we're not exactly playing like world-beaters right now.
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Miami (Oh) +8.5 vs Wright State?

Yowza!
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Winthrop is up around 17. I'm impressed with the ball movement and flow of Winthrop's offense. Pat Kelsey I believe was an assistant for Prosser at X (though perhaps Matta/Miller), definitely at Wake has the makings of a great coach; wouldn't be surprised to see his name come up for any good A10 level job to lower tier P5 school next season, GW should have him on their short list.
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Wintrhop is now up 11 w/ under 3 to go. That is going to be a tough game coming out of the Wooden Classic (or whatever its called in LA). Certainly not sexy, but they can certainly take UD if UD comes out napping.
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so yesterday:

Winthrop won, GW won, La Salle won, Mason won, VCU won, Nebraska won and Vandy won, so good day for UD's SOS.

In other action of interest, WSU held off Miami after having a huge early lead to win by 2. #4 Oregon lost to Baylor, Kansas beat Duke by 2, Kentucky beat Mich St, Maryland nips G'town by 2, Creighton handles #9 Wisconsin
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Wednesday 11/16:

Northwestern (+7.5) @ Butler
Brown (+24.5) @ Rhody
St Francis (Pa) @ Duquesne
aPVm @ #17 Saint Mary's
UC Irvine (+16.5) @#25 Cal
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Temple lost by 5 at home to New Hampshire on Monday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/new-ha...-201611140577/



Monmouth lost at South Carolina in OT yesterday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/monmou...-201611150525/
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Monmouth lost at South Carolina in OT yesterday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/monmou...-201611150525/
Any game that Monmouth loses makes me happy! It means there is less of a chance of ESPN promoting their bench players skits.
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Any game that Monmouth loses makes me happy! It means there is less of a chance of ESPN promoting their bench players skits.

I agree wholeheartedly. Especially since their antics overshadow a pretty darn good group of guys who actually play, not to mention one of the more dynamic and exciting players no on knows about.
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This is my favorite thread throughout the season. Thanks to Medford and others who keep it up to date.

It reminds me of when I was younger reading the DDN. They would call out all the "Flyer Foes" in the long list of Men's college basketball scores in the paper every day.
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Butler hosting Northwestern on FS1. Tight game, but the most interesting thing is the Cox cable guide here in Florida lists the game as:

"Butler hosts Northwestern in an early-season clash between the Horizon League and the Big Ten."

Horizon League! LOL
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This is my favorite thread throughout the season. Thanks to Medford and others who keep it up to date.

It reminds me of when I was younger reading the DDN. They would call out all the "Flyer Foes" in the long list of Men's college basketball scores in the paper every day.
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11/16/16

A10
#21 Rhode Island 79 v. Brown 72
Duquesne 89 v. St. Francis (PA) 75

Flyer foes
#17 St. Mary's 110 v. Prairie View 72
Butler 70 v. Northwestern 68

Top 25
#6 Indiana 100 v. UMass-Lowell 78
#25 California 75 v. UC-Irvine 65

Others
Notre Dame 92 v. Seattle U. 49
Miami 94 @ N. Florida 56
Lamar 63 @ Oregon St. 60

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Butler over NW 70-68...BU converts game winner in closing seconds.



Game winning shot replay:

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the butler, NW game was a fun one to watch. NW is going to be a tough matchup, wasn't UD recruiting Victor Law at one point? He played a fair amount of minutes in last 10 minutes or so that I got to watch.
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Butler over NW 70-68...BU converts game winner in closing seconds.



Game winning shot replay:

http://www.snappytv.com/tc/3269010/1858234
Looked at that score and just glossed straight over it.

Meant to watch it and forgot.

Yes, we were definitely in on Vic Law at one point.
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Thursday 11/17:

Clemson @ Davidson (11:00 on espnu for those that want to follow)
Temple +3 @ UMass
Arkansas Pine Bluff @ GW
Providence @ Ohio State (doesn't relate to UD, but interested to see if OSU looks any better than they did the other night, I think we'd like Matta to stick around a few more years up there)
Bonnies (+13) @ Florida (seems like way too big of a line; what do I know, go Bonna)
Fisher College @ Harvard (think there are some smart kids playing in this one?)
E Illinois (+5) @ St Louis
Valpo (+12.5) @ #4 Oregon, not sure if Brooks is still out for Oregon, but the line seems way to big either way, Valpo has one of the better big men in the country
Michigan (+1.5) @ Marquette (can an astroid just fall on the building in the middle of the game?)
San Diego (+26) @ #16 UCLA
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Thursday 11/17:

Clemson @ Davidson (11:00 on espnu for those that want to follow)
Temple +3 @ UMass
Arkansas Pine Bluff @ GW
Providence @ Ohio State (doesn't relate to UD, but interested to see if OSU looks any better than they did the other night, I think we'd like Matta to stick around a few more years up there)
Bonnies (+13) @ Florida (seems like way too big of a line; what do I know, go Bonna)
Fisher College @ Harvard (think there are some smart kids playing in this one?)
E Illinois (+5) @ St Louis
Valpo (+12.5) @ #4 Oregon, not sure if Brooks is still out for Oregon, but the line seems way to big either way, Valpo has one of the better big men in the country
Michigan (+1.5) @ Marquette (can an astroid just fall on the building in the middle of the game?)
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Xavier @ Missouri in Orlando in a quarterfinal of the Puerto Rico Tip-Off (1:30 on espnu also for those that want to follow)
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Xavier @ Missouri in Orlando in a quarterfinal of the Puerto Rico Tip-Off (1:30 on espnu also for those that want to follow)
The Puerto Rico Tip-Off was moved to Orlando due to Zika virus concerns.
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Clemson is blowing Davidson out.
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Mizzou leading X late 2nd half. Jinx post!
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X wins by 1 in OT.
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11/17/16

A10
Clemson 95 v. Davidson 78
Florida 73 v. St. Bonaventure 66
UMass 70 v. Temple 67
GW 61 v. Ark-Pine Bluff 41
SLU 74 v. E. Illinois 69


Top 25
#3 Villanova 76 v. W. Michigan 65
#4 Oregon 76 v. Valpo 54
#9 Wisconsin 69 v. Chicago St. 51
#11 Xavier 83 v. Missouri 82 (OT)
#12 Louisville 88 v. Long Beach St. 56
#16 UCLA 88 v. San Diego 68
#23 Texas 85 v. E. Washington 52

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Arkansas St. 78 v. Georgetown 72
Ohio St. 72 v. Providence 67
SMU 76 v. Pitt 67
Seton Hall 91 v. Iowa 83
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UConn 65 v. Loyola Marymount 62
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weekend gets a little tricky w/ some matchups not yet listed due to today's outcomes in tournaments setting up some additional tilts this weekend.

Friday 11/18:

Davidson v Misery (11:30 on ESPNU)
Loyola-ChiTown (+5.5) vs(@?) St Joes
Farliegh Dickonson @ Fordham
Winthrop @ Florida State
Binghamton @ VCU
Canisius (+5.5) @ Duquesne
Mount St Mary's @ Mason
Norfolk St @ Vandy
Ball St (+8) @ Bama

Saturday 11/19:
#24 UC @ #21 Rhody
Texas Southern @ La Salle
St Peters @ Fordham

Sunday 11/20:
Umass @ Holy Cross
Bob Morris @ Richmond
E Tenn State @ UNC-Wilmington
Lipscomb @ Fordham
Duquense @ #2 Kentucky
Long Beach St @ #16 UCLA
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Friday
Davidson 70 v. Mizzou 55
St. Joe's 71 v. Loyola (IL) 57
Fordham 68 v. Fairleigh Dickinson 55
Canisius 78 @ Duquesne 77
VCU 81 v. Binghamton 42
Mt. St. Mary's 78 @ George Mason 76

Saturday
#21 Rhode Island 76 v. #24 Cincinnati 71
Fordham 63 v. St. Peter's 41
Texas Southern 77 @ LaSalle 76

Sunday
#1 Duke 75 v. #21 Rhode Island 65
#2 Kentucky 93 v. Duquesne 59
UMass 68 @ Holy Cross 60
Richmond 81 v. Robert Morris 69
Davidson 68 v. Arizona St. 60
Fordham 85 v. Lipscomb 69
Ole Miss 81 v. St. Joe's 68

Flyer foes
Friday
Austin Peay 77 @ N. Kentucky 69
Florida St. 100 v. Winthrop 86
Vanderbilt 75 v. Norfolk St. 52
Alabama 77 v. Ball St. 59

Saturday
Miami (O) 76 v. Austin Peay 70
Virginia Tech 88 v. VMI 72
Nebraska 65 v. Louisiana Tech 54

Sunday
UNC-Wilmington 68 v. ETSU 59
Austin Peay 76 v. Delaware 75
#16 UCLA 114 v. Long Beach St. 77
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Winthrop wins at Illinois 84 to 80. Flyers will need to be ready for the Eagles and Pat Kelsey when they come to UD Arena.
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Northwestern just took down #22 Texas 77-58.That is a real beat down.
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A-10 horrific today going 0-5.
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A-10 horrific today going 0-5.
I know it is way early, but usually this time of year the A-10 is in the 4th to 9th place RPI range as a conference. This year I see the A-10 is currently in 15th place. December needs to be a much better month for the conference or everyones RPI will suffer. Simple solution of course for the Flyers, just win them all.
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Oregon, picked by some as a Top 5 team, loses to a pedestrian Georgetown and is now 2-2.
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Oregon, picked by some as a Top 5 team, loses to a pedestrian Georgetown and is now 2-2.
Yet most media outlets still qualify Oregon's play with the fact their stud, Dillon Brooks, had not been playing. He played yesterday, the Ducks were at full strength. Still getting the benefit of the doubt, per ESPN:

"It didn't help the Ducks that Brooks, a preseason All-American, was obviously feeling his way back from offseason foot surgery. Until he gets really right, and reintegrates into Dana Altman's offensive plan, the Ducks are going to struggle offensively."
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I've talked with my Dad about this on a number of occasions. I'm not saying it is the case with Oregon, but it really annoys me how a lot of teams don't move much in the rankings or get a better seed based on their history. Duke is one that annoys me the most. But to see week in and week out teams lose a game or even two and barely move in the rankings when we play a pretty darn good schedule and it takes so much to gain respect. Two years ago is a perfect, and just one, example when we got picked to play at UD Arena after a great season, its just a slap in the face.
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I've talked with my Dad about this on a number of occasions. I'm not saying it is the case with Oregon, but it really annoys me how a lot of teams don't move much in the rankings or get a better seed based on their history. Duke is one that annoys me the most. But to see week in and week out teams lose a game or even two and barely move in the rankings when we play a pretty darn good schedule and it takes so much to gain respect. Two years ago is a perfect, and just one, example when we got picked to play at UD Arena after a great season, its just a slap in the face.
Normally you can add Mich St to that list. Currently 2-2. Lost to Ariz at buzzer. Blown out by KY. Beat FGCU by one in East Lansing. Now ranked 20/24, which is darn near scandalous.

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Normally you can add Mich St to that list. Currently 2-2. Lost to Ariz St at buzzer. Blown out by KY. Beat FGCU by one in East Lansing. Now ranked 20/24, which is darn near scandalous.
Oh Michigan State is one of the worst when it comes to this. Smh. I feel like not only is it the Michigan State name, but more so Izzo. He has proven that they come around later in the season, but still.
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Normally you can add Mich St to that list. Currently 2-2. Lost to Ariz St at buzzer. Blown out by KY. Beat FGCU by one in East Lansing. Now ranked 20/24, which is darn near scandalous.
That was Arizona they lost to, not Arizona State. Still your point is well taken.

Oregon moved to 3-2 with an OT win against Tenn. They will not move next week, while UD gets less votes after a loss to a good team.
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Normally you can add Mich St to that list. Currently 2-2. Lost to Ariz St at buzzer. Blown out by KY. Beat FGCU by one in East Lansing. Now ranked 20/24, which is darn near scandalous.
...and did you see the end of that FGCU game, where the referees "accidentally" started the clock when the ball was inbounded, rather than when it was caught 90 feet away? Unfortunately the rules prevented replaying the final 2 seconds.
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How about Fort Wayne beating IU!
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How about Fort Wayne beating IU!
Didn't see it go final but found it was interesting they were up 2 with 6 minutes to go.

Its a Big 10 school with name recognition. They will move up to #2, start receiving 1st place votes, and in the eyes of the committee they pass the "eye test" and their "body of work will speak for itself". The committee chair will say "Well Greg and Clark, Indiana's (insert what helps Big school case) as opposed to Southern Illinois (insert what hurts Small school case) was the deciding factor. It was a tough choice as always"


Indiana goes on tho lose the play-in game to Pepperdine by 35

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...and did you see the end of that FGCU game, where the referees "accidentally" started the clock when the ball was inbounded, rather than when it was caught 90 feet away? Unfortunately the rules prevented replaying the final 2 seconds.
I did not see it...that is a travesty...big time home cookin' officiating.
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VCU up on Baylor by 1 with 11 minutes left. VCU is tall and very tough defensively. Cox in foul trouble and has only played 6 minutes.
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VCU up on Baylor by 1 with 11 minutes left. VCU is tall and very tough defensively. Cox in foul trouble and has only played 6 minutes.
VCU is no bigger than Dayton. Mo is listed at 6'7" but he is maybe 6'6". Justin Tillman is 6'7". Their starter at the 4, Jordan Burgess, is 6"5". Their tallest kid that plays considerable minutes Hamdy and he is 6'9". VCU's starting guards are both listed at 6'1" but I would be shocked if Jonathan Williams is over 6'. Of all the A10 teams, I think we match up the best with VCU size wise.
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VCU blows an 8 point lead at the half and loses by 8 to Baylor. They will likely be taking on St. Johns tomorrow.
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New Mexico (4-2) 57 @ Dayton (4-2) 64 (@ Honda Center - Anaheim, CA)
Cleveland St (1-4) 71 @ Duquesne (3-4) 78 (@ Palumbo Center - Pittsburgh, PA)
La Salle (2-2) 89 @ Drexel (2-4) 78 (@ Daskalaskis Center - Philadelphia, PA)

Flyer foes:

Va Tech (5-1) 66 @ Nebraska (4-2) 53 (@ Honda Center - Anaheim. CA)
UAB (3-3) 63 @ #15 St Mary's (5-0) 76 (@ Orleans Center - Las Vegas, NV)
Cal St-Northridge (2-5) 78 @ Portland (4-2) 96 (@ Honda Center - Anaheim, CA)
New Hampshire (4-2) 65 @ Winthrop (3-2) 60 (@ Rock Hill, SC)
UC Irvine (3-4) 66 @ East Tennessee St (5-1) 72 (@ Sioux Falls, SD)

Other games of note:

Nicholls St (4-3) 106 @ Samford (3-3) 103 (2OT) (@ Birmingham, AL)

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#1 Kentucky 115 v. Arizona State 69 @ Bahamas
#18 Butler 68 @ Utah 59
#23 Oregon 68 v. Boise St. 63
#25 W. Virginia 108 v. Manhattan 61

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Florida St. 75 v. Minnesota 67
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I think the Massey Ratings Extreme Games/Largest Upsets page is interesting.

Arkansas State won at Georgetown.

Ohio U. won at Georgia Tech.

NC Central won at Missouri.



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I see Rhodie lost at Valpo 65-62. Road games are tough for everyone.
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I see Rhodie lost at Valpo 65-62. Road games are tough for everyone.
I watched the end of that game. Rhody down 3 with about 10 sec to go with ball at Valpo end. Valpo had called time out and set up a D to guard the 3 pt line. Rhody player drives all the way down, right to an unguarded basket. He passes up the easy 2 to get the ball to the 3 line but there is no open shot there and the shot is blocked badly. I don't know if he had taken the easy 2, how realistic it would have been to get the ball back and get another shot but obviously it would not have been worse than what happened. Interesting strategy on Valpo's part. Everyone always talks about to foul or not to foul when up 3 but I thought the choice to over play the 3 was an interesting one.
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11/29/16

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Valparaiso 65 v. #21 Rhode Island 62
Davidson 78 @ Mercer 57
VCU 81 v. Princeton 70
GW 77 @ Harvard 74
Samford 68 @ SLU 64

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#4 Kansas 91 v. Long Beach St. 61
#5 Duke 78 v. Michigan St. 69
#7 Xavier 85 v. No. Dak. St. 55
#10 Creighton 93 v. Buffalo 72
#17 Wisconsin 77 v. #22 Syracuse 39

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Vanderbilt 83 v. Tenn. St. 59

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Big Ten/ACC challenge
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Penn St. 67 v. Ga. Tech 60
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Notre Dame 92 v. Iowa 78
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Nice win for GW at Harvard.

Bad loss for St. John's. Chris Mullin's attempt at becoming a college head coach, not going well.
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Syracuse football puts up 61 in a loss to Pitt while the basketball team manages to score only 39. Ha.
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That Syracuse score is a misprint...the final score was Wisconsin 77 Syracuse 60.



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I think the Massey Ratings Extreme Games/Largest Upsets page is interesting.

Arkansas State won at Georgetown.

Ohio U. won at Georgia Tech.

NC Central won at Missouri.



http://www.masseyratings.com/extgms....2017&sub=11590

Nov 17: #11 Xavier 83, Missouri 82 (OT) (neutral court)
Nov 28: NC Central 62 @ Missouri 52
We'll see how the X-men (now #7) fare at #9 Baylor Saturday . . .

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Winthrop defeats Furman 58-57 in OT tonight! Xavier Cooks, a 6'8" Junior, led Winthrop with 14 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assists. UD will need to keep him in check Saturday afternoon.
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George Mason with a nice win at UNI.
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11/30/16

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Temple 78 @ St. Joe's 72
Maryland-Balt. Co. 81 @ Duquesne 72
Sacred Heart 71 @ Fordham 70
LaSalle 89 v. Lehigh 81
UMass 62 v. Wagner 55
Bucknell 73 v. Richmond 68
St. Bonaventure 81 v. Siena 74
George Mason 54 @ N. Iowa 50

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#12 St. Mary's 66 @ Stanford 51
Winthrop 58 v. Furman 57 (OT)
Radford 74 v. VMI 67
New Mexico 64 v. Abilene Christian 55
Clemson 60 v. Nebraska 58
Fort Wayne 103 v. Austin Peay 99

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#6 Virginia 63 v. Ohio State 61
#9 Baylor 79 v. Sam Houston St. 45
#11 UCLA 98 v. UC Riverside 56
#14 Louisville 71 v. #15 Purdue 64
#16 Arizona 85 v. TX Southern 63
#23 Oregon 93 v. Western Oregon 54

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Georgia St. 81 v. Wright St. 74
UConn 51 v. Boston U. 49
Miami (O) 78 v. Grambling 76 (OT)
Virginia Tech 73 @ Michigan 70
Miami (FL) 73 v. Rutgers 61
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BIG took a whipping last night after holding leads in most games. IU looked good from the get go. Hard to figure how the Mastodons beat them. A-10 went 4-4, and we took some bad losses.
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12/1/16

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E. Tennessee St. 85 v. Lees McRae (?) 80

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#8 Gonzaga 97 v. Miss. Valley St. 63
Cincinnati 55 @ #19 Iowa St. 54 (OT)
#20 S. Carolina 68 v. Vermont 50
#24 Florida 91 @ North Florida 60
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Duquesne beat Pitt 64-55 for their first win over Pitt since 2000!
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Duquesne beat Pitt 64-55 for their first win over Pitt since 2000!
Oh my, that had to send the Panther fans home in a tizzy!
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UCLA puts up 97 at Ky to win. I think those ratings should be reversed, UCLA #1 and KY #11.
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Rhody just lost at Providence and VCU lost to Illinois. Not good for the overall A10 profile
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UCLA puts up 97 at Ky to win. I think those ratings should be reversed, UCLA #1 and KY #11.
We saw that UCLA has the goods this year last weekend. They are potentially a Final Four team. I dunno about Ky.

We just have to take care of Dayton. Our close loss to St Mary's at home is balanced by a road win at 'bama, and a neutral over a pretty good New Mexico team. If Kendall is really back, and that wasn't a mirage this afternoon, we are capable of taking care of our own business.
We have already had a good exposure to winning on the road which will serve us well in the A10.
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Rhody just lost at Providence and VCU lost to Illinois. Not good for the overall A10 profile
Winthrop beat that Illinois team.
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Nov 17: #11 Xavier 83, Missouri 82 (OT) (neutral court)
Nov 28: NC Central 62 @ Missouri 52
We'll see how the X-men (now #7) fare at #9 Baylor Saturday . . .

Not so good, Baylor rides a big second half to a 15 point victory: #7 Exavier 61 @ #9 Baylor 76

A-10 goes 5-7 on the day:
Winthrop (4-3) 67 @ Dayton (5-2) 83 - welcome back KP!
St Joe's (3-4) 57 @ #2 Villanova (8-0) 88 - no damage here, as 'Nova will be #1 in the country Monday
#21 Rhode Island (5-3) 60 @ Providence (6-2) 63 - the A-10 loses their only ranked team (ouch)
Wake Forest (6-2) 75 @ Richmond (4-4) 67
Central Florida (6-1) 65 @ UMass (5-2) 62 - tough loss on a three pointer with under a second left
S Florida (4-3) 67 @ George Washington (5-3) 68 - GW squeaks by on a late three
Fordham (5-4) 52 @ Harvard (2-4) 64 - (sigh)
Bucknell (6-3) 73 @ La Salle (4-2) 83
Illinois (6-3) 64 @ VCU (6-2) 46
Mercer (4-4) 68 @ George Mason (6-3) 79
Buffalo (4-4) 84 @ St Bonaventure (5-2) 90
K State (7-1) 84 @ St Louis (2-5) 53

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Austin Peay (4-4) 62 @ Arkansas (6-1) 99
DePaul (4-2) 64 @ Northwestern (6-2) 80
South Dakota (6-4) 61 @ Nebraska (5-3) 73
Vanderbilt (4-4) 52 @ Minnesota (7-1) 56
New Mexico (5-3) 74 @ Illinois State (4-2) 79
Colorado (7-2) 76 @ Portland (4-3) 63
Gardner Webb (4-4) 86 @ VMI (1-6) 68

Top 25 results:
#11 UCLA (9-0) 97 @ #1 Kentucky (7-1) 92
Stanford (6-3) 74 @ #4 Kansas (7-1) 89
Maine (2-6) 55 @ #5 Duke (8-1) 94
#25 West Virginia (6-1) 66 @ #6 Virginia (7-1) 57
#8 Gonzaga (8-0) 69 @ #16 Arizona (6-2) 62
Akron (6-2) 70 @ #10 Creighton (8-0) 82
Morehead St (2-5) 56 @ #15 Purdue (6-2) 90
Oklahoma (5-2) 70 @ #17 Wisconsin (7-2) 90
Central Arkansas (1-7) 58 @ #18 Butler (8-0) 82
North Florida (3-7) &1 @ #22 Syracuse (5-2) 77
Savannah St (2-8) 59 @ #23 Oregon (7-2) 128 !

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THE University of St. _avier at Cincinnati lost a game? Man what a shame. Kentucky University lost too? That's too bad. AND a Dayton win with our heart and soul back? i thought Christmas was the 25th?

UCLA is the real deal, you can have Harry Giles and Josh Jackson....no Freshman in the country let alone ANY player is better then Lonzo Ball. Being on the West Coast he'll be largely overlooked but we shall be hearing from him in March.
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Might have already been posted...St. John's lost to Delaware State.
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Northwestern is off to a pretty good start...they have beaten Texas, Wake Forest, and DePaul. They could be a good win. They are favored by 0.1 over UD right now.

This could be the year when they finally make their first NCAAT appearance...expected rpi of 54...they could get the usual p5 preferential treatment from the selection committee.


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Date Opponent (Expected RPI) Conf Location Score Outcome Prob(W) Spread
11-11 Mississippi Valley St. (315.8) SWAC H 94-63 W
11-14 Eastern Washington (220.1) BSky H 86-72 W
11-16 Butler (16.4) BE A 70-68 L
11-21 Texas (121.1) B12 N 77-58 W
11-22 Notre Dame (26.8) ACC N 66-70 L
11-25 Bryant (220.9) NEC H 86-66 W
11-28 Wake Forest (57.0) ACC H 65-58 W
12-3 DePaul (207.5) BE H 80-64 W
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Portland comes from 11 down against Rio Grand Valley with 5 minutes left in regulation to tie the game at 73-73 on a dunk with 1 second left and send it into OT. Then, get a layup with 8 seconds left in the first OT to tie the game at 82 and send it into the second OT. Finally, get a tip-in off a missed layup with 2 seconds left in the second OT to win 90-89.

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UD will play the second best team on the noncon schedule Saturday.
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You mean 3rd unless you think they are better than Northwestern.
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I think they are better than NW. Different style and size, but better than all the P5 teams on the schedule.
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At the half

Witchita State 36
St. Louis 9 (yes 9, not a typo)



3 for 29 shooting.
On the bright side, only 3 turnovers, LOL
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George Mason thumps Penn St by 19 to go to 7-3. First decent win, but they may win some games this year.
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George Mason thumps Penn St by 19 to go to 7-3. First decent win, but they may win some games this year.
They won at N Iowa last week too. Those are 2 decent road wins.
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A10
#7 N. Carolina 83 v. Davidson 74
George Mason 85 @ Penn St. 66
Georgia Tech 76 @ VCU 73 (OT)
George Washington 66 @ Temple 63

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New Mexico 78 v. UTEP 77

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#8 Gonzaga 98 v. Washington 71
#11 Louisville 74 v. S. Illinois 51
Colorado 68 v. #13 Xavier 66
#15 W. Virginia 90 v. W. Carolina 37
Indiana St. 72 v. #16 Butler 71
#17 Wisconsin 78 v. Idaho St. 44

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Colorado 68 v. #13 Xavier 66
That's a bummer...
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Despite only going 2-2 last night; those four A10 scores seem to send an obvious message of how difficult the conference games are going to be, regardless of current RPI's. VCU and GTECH was a hell of a game; and Davidson **** near came back and beat Carolina at Chappell Hill.
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Despite only going 2-2 last night; those four A10 scores seem to send an obvious message of how difficult the conference games are going to be, regardless of current RPI's. VCU and GTECH was a hell of a game; and Davidson **** near came back and beat Carolina at Chappell Hill.
GT was predicted to finish next to last in the ACC, only better than Boston College. This is the type a game where a top 4 or 5 A-10 team should pull out. While it was an entertaining game, I did not see 2 good teams on the floor. Very sloppy, both teams had 20+ turnovers, and not much ability to create. And with VCU's 20 point loss to Illinois in their last game, things are not looking too good down in Richmond.

UNC vs Davidson actually looked like there were 2 good teams on the floor. Much more skill and ability to create. I was happy with how well Davidson played in this one even though they lost. Davidson continues to be a better addition to the A10 than I thought they would be. I was worried that it would be too big of a jump from the Southern Conference.
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That's the reason I said despite RPI'S; and I attribute much of the turnovers in VCU game to competitive defense..it took overtime to reach the 70's.

My point was that a random game in the A10 will be no picnic; and don't expect VCU to vanish in the conference race; as they will be a threat to the end.

If UD scrimmages Illinois, then folks say wow look at the big time program UD practiced against; but if VCU loses to them, you say Illinois isn't worth a crap.
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That's the reason I said despite RPI'S; and I attribute much of the turnovers in VCU game to competitive defense..it took overtime to reach the 70's.

My point was that a random game in the A10 will be no picnic; and don't expect VCU to vanish in the conference race; as they will be a threat to the end.

If UD scrimmages Illinois, then folks say wow look at the big time program UD practiced against; but if VCU loses to them, you say Illinois isn't worth a crap.
Scrimmages when you are working on things and are not going all out to win is a little different than a OOC game in the middle of the season. And they didn't just lose to Illinois, they were dominated by Illinois. But Illinois IMHO is a much better team than the GT team that beat VCU at VCU.

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That's the reason I said despite RPI'S; and I attribute much of the turnovers in VCU game to competitive defense..it took overtime to reach the 70's.

My point was that a random game in the A10 will be no picnic; and don't expect VCU to vanish in the conference race; as they will be a threat to the end.

If UD scrimmages Illinois, then folks say wow look at the big time program UD practiced against; but if VCU loses to them, you say Illinois isn't worth a crap.
VCU is a horrible outside shooting team, period. As was the case under Shaka, they still get incredible athletes that can leap small backboards in a single bound. With the 30 second shot clock they're finding themselves having to rely more on medium/longer range jumpers then attacking the glass as they've always done. And HAVOC isn't what it used to be either, at least as long as the refs are consistently applying/enforcing the hand check rule.
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