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Old 09-12-2018, 07:49 PM
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So after a disaster, FEMA deploys emergency housing inspectors who are paid per inspection, who asses the damage to homes and authorize payments to those affected to cover expenses of temporary housing, emergency repairs, etc....

In PR, due to lack of housing, the inspectors slept on a ship in San Juan harbor. Every morning they would shuttle the inspectors back to land, where they met at the central command center to get their vehicles and go about their business inspecting homes and getting relief funds to those who need it. I know two who were there, and both tell similar stories. Hundred of inspectors, as well as electrical workers trying to restore the grid, would show up at the command center between 5 and 6 AM. Sometimes it was as late as 8 or 830 AM until the gates were unlocked, as the local guards on the other side of the gate had not had the friendly here is your tip handshake enough times yet. Complaints were made up the command chain at FEMA, yet the problem with the locals was never resolved.

So ZMZ enlighten us, should Trump have personally been there handing out the bribes, or showed up and kicked some ass?

Just one of several examples of local fraud I am aware of

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Come on - Trump should go down there and deliver it himself!
If Trump had not distributed the paper towels himself, they would be tarped on a runway in Puerto Rico too.

The MSM hated on Trump for distributing the towels. Maybe he should have been tossing water bottles as well....


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Originally Posted by IAFlyer View Post
The Population of Puerto Rico is roughly the same as the state of Iowa.

Puerto Rico's annual budget is 10x that of Iowa.
I rarely post on the off topic gibberish as this forum frustrates me. Mainly by how no one references their facts. How can one have a constructive debate if the underlying numbers are gibberish.

Considering the board believes everything is fake news and I would assume most of us are UD grads, let's begin to do something we were taught at UD and even in high school, include references to "facts" we cite. And this isn't being like Swampy and just posting a number of endless links without any comment, but more like footnotes/endnotes.

Because in this case, as far as my limited research shows, you are way off.
Puerto Rico's budget appears to be $8.7 Billion
(https://www.elnuevodia.com/english/e...orico-2431741/)
while Iowa's appears to be $7.4 billion
(https://www.radioiowa.com/2018/05/07...a-legislature/)

That is not 10x greater. Now the budget deficit may be 10x greater. In 2017, Iowa initially faced a $130 million shortfall but at end of year it was actually $13 million
(https://www.legis.iowa.gov/docs/publ...ADR/866004.pdf)
Numbers for PR are hard to quantify as reports vary, but with Hurricane Maria may have caused this year's budget deficit to be $3.7 billion.
(https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/u...urricanes.html)

And while corruption is a large problem, it is only 1 issue facing the island. The way the Congress has treated PR has also driven the budget crisis.
(https://www.businessinsider.com/puer...o-debt-2017-10)

See how easy that was. And maybe you heard the 10x difference but didn't remember it was in regards to the deficit not the budget. By having to cite a source for the number, you would have realized your mistaken memory, which would be a good thing. And still made your point about corruption being an issue in PR, but at least we would be discussing issues for the deficit not talking about completely wrong figures.

In this case, lets not cast the entire debt crisis as because Puerto Rican's as lazy and corrupt but a combination of factors, many of which are a result of US polices coming out of Congress and the infamous Jones Act which hurts both PR and Hawaii
(http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...927-story.html)
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I only brought it up because he KEEPS TWEETING AND LYING ABOUT IT.

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he swooped in and saved everyone with his paper towel jump-shots and his generous billions of dollars "he" raised. Let's say that democrats are infiltrating Harvard studies to make him look bad..

WHY is he rage-tweeting on the toilet at 3am about this? There's a massive hurricane hitting the coast RIGHT NOW and people need encouragement, not a bunch of BS to argue over. Drop your ego for one ****ing second and be a leader to help U.S. citizens. You can complain after the current natural disaster is over. The narcissism and lack of empathy is astronomical.
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Despite your claim it has been this way well over a century, I am sure the fact it is a third world country is entirely Trumps fault, or maybe GWB. Just ask ZMZ and the rest of the liberal snow flakes in the world.
And republicans blamed Obama for the poor Katrina response. Which happened 3 years before he took office.

"29 percent of a pool of Republican primary voters in Louisiana blamed Obama, who took office in 2009, and 28 percent blamed Bush, whose term lasted through 2008. Hurricane Katrina hit on Aug. 29, 2005."

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I guarantee it that there are Dems and libs (I should also throw in anti-Trumpers), cough ZMZ cough, already preparing to politicize Florence and try and Katrina Trump.
The only one politicizing anything is the President, who seems to think there is some crazy conspiracy from the democrats to inflate the death count.
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Great Job on fighting the hurricane Donald

Single handedly our fearless leader Donald Trump has fought hurricane Florence and has reduced her from a category 4 with 145 mph sustained winds down to a category 1 with 90 miles per hour winds. Might not even be a hurricane by the time it makes landfall.

Thank God, and King Trump, for the weakening of this storm and hopefully minimal losses compared to the "storm of the century" the media was panicking about 48 hours ago. Prayers for all in the Carolinas.
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And republicans blamed Obama for the poor Katrina response. Which happened 3 years before he took office.

"29 percent of a pool of Republican primary voters in Louisiana blamed Obama, who took office in 2009, and 28 percent blamed Bush, whose term lasted through 2008. Hurricane Katrina hit on Aug. 29, 2005."

https://www.nola.com/politics/index....ns_disapp.html
The response to Katrina was a failure on the state and local governments in Louisiana. Anyone who argues otherwise has no clue about emergency management. The response starts with local agencies that properly assess their needs and involve FEMA properly to formulate a complete response.
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The Press can't back off the dire predictions of death and destruction of Biblical proportions so despite the hurricane being dropped to a Cat 1 storm, we will be lead to believe that the entire East Coast has been washed away...unless it isn't in which case we can thank Obama.

EDIT: How was I to know that 2 day ago articles were already being printed saying that Obama already saved D.C. from disaster!

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060096597
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The Press can't back off the dire predictions of death and destruction of Biblical proportions so despite the hurricane being dropped to a Cat 1 storm, we will be lead to believe that the entire East Coast has been washed away...unless it isn't in which case we can thank Obama.

EDIT: How was I to know that 2 day ago articles were already being printed saying that Obama already saved D.C. from disaster!

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060096597
They just had to throw in a comment about Trump being a climate change denier.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dangerous.html

Obama is responsible for the booming economy too!!

Why can't democrats just go away quietly like "W"?
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The response starts with local agencies that properly assess their needs and involve FEMA properly to formulate a complete response.
And this is why PR and Maria was such a difficult task for FEMA, correct? FEMA ended up being the first responder. Going into an island that had been decimated by a hurricane blind as a bat, run by a government that is as corrupt as they come.

But it's just more politically advantageous for libs to blame Trump. Well, at least they believe it's advantageous.
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Death toll: 2,975. What an absolute clown
OK, my apology if this is old news but I had not heard this till yesterday, thanks to Rush Limbaugh reporting it. Before the libtard snowflakes slam Rush, check out the source for my confirmation of what he said-

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/29/us/pu...oll/index.html

So instead of counting toe tags, we approximate the number after a university study. Kudos to Trump for fighting back over this Bull**** media and liberal bias.

The only clowns are those who believe the media on stories like this.

EDIT- Keep in mind this is the same George Washington University who on multiple attempts could not count to 5 when putting their basketball team on the court!!!

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The death count is a bunch of irrelevant media hype. Each death is terrible, but who cares how many exactly. People in the media still discussing it are sicko's.
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I heard this a couple of weeks ago but never commented on it.
Seems timely now.

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018...gs-that-werent
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I heard this a couple of weeks ago but never commented on it.
Seems timely now.

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018...gs-that-werent
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And that is liberal, gun hating NPR putting this out. The amount of fake news out there makes you question the facts of everything.
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EDIT- Keep in mind this is the same George Washington University who on multiple attempts could not count to 5 when putting their basketball team on the court!!!
Now that's funny!
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Again, only reason this is being brought up is because blowhard Trump keeps tweeting and talking about it
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EDIT- Keep in mind this is the same George Washington University who on multiple attempts could not count to 5 when putting their basketball team on the court!!!
This is pretty funny...and their scoreboard came crashing to the floor this week too

https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...ketball-court/
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Trump's first tweet today (or yesterday) should read:

"Mollie Tibbetts could have been my daughter"

And from this point forward, she should be the name/face/justification for building the much needed 'Wall'.
"Houston — A U.S. Border Patrol supervisor was charged Saturday with murder in the deaths of four female sex workers following what authorities called a two-week killing spree that ended when a fifth woman escaped from him at a Texas gas station and found help."

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/na.../507-594825207

If I learned anything from the right-wing snowflake's response to the Mollie Tibbets case, it's that we should immediately politicize this and use it to make generalizations about an entire group of people.
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"Houston A U.S. Border Patrol supervisor was charged Saturday with murder in the deaths of four female sex workers following what authorities called a two-week killing spree that ended when a fifth woman escaped from him at a Texas gas station and found help."

https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/na.../507-594825207

If I learned anything from the right-wing snowflake's response to the Mollie Tibbets case, it's that we should immediately politicize this and use it to make generalizations about an entire group of people.
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