2024 Recruiting Thread

[lhsgolf19]

We have our 1st 2024 Offer

Local Product who visited for the Game tonight

Lane Willoughby @LaneWilloughby2
1h

2024 Chaminade Julienne guard Jonathan Powell has picked up an offer from the #Flyers.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWPZqDurw3e/

Top 5 Player in the State for his class

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 We have our 1st 2024 Offer Local Product who visited for the Game tonight Lane Willoughby @LaneWilloughby2 1h 2024 Chaminade Julienne guard Jonathan Powell has picked up an offer from the #Flyers. https://www.instagram.com/p/CWPZqDurw3e/ Top 5 Player in the State for his class

he was at the game tonight.... is that a
good thing, kidding not kidding...

I'll bet he loved the crowd, that's a good thing..

[FlyerFanatic08]

lol yeah he saw that loss and said nahhh.

[UDGutter2]

Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic08 lol yeah he saw that loss and said nahhh.

Or he said, "they need me."

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by steverino015 he was at the game tonight.... is that a good thing, kidding not kidding... I'll bet he loved the crowd, that's a good thing..

The crowd was average at best last night
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[steverino015]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer The crowd as average at best last night Posted via Mobile Device

you do realize that average
crowd at best is better than
the vast majority of the schools in the U.S.

I was listening on the echo
WHIO feed, and the crowd got
loud and proud at the end, I
could hear it, and so could the
recruit.....

[Monster Man]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer I’ve been going to games for 40 years. The crowd last night was not engaged as needed and nowhere near Tues night. It would have been a good St. Bonnie crowd if that’s the standard you are looking for. Posted via Mobile Device

I couldn’t agree with you more. The crowd was as flat as the team. However, there wasn’t a lot to get excited about last night.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by Monster Man I couldn’t agree with you more. The crowd was as flat as the team. However, there wasn’t a lot to get excited about last night.

I see this one a little different. Yes, the crowd seemed flat with little to excite them. But if one of our guys managed to pull off a "Sibert" shot, we would see a few things clearer.

5 seconds with the ball inbound at our end is an eternity to get off a good shot. I pray that we certainly rehearsed that scenario in practice. Unfortunately it appeared that we did not.

So alas, we gagged it.

Now, what excited me in this loss is the lane protection with Holmes. Secondly, the clutch 3 point shooting of Blakney, And the two by Brea who also had a 3rd early in the game that was all the way down and came out. Would have put him 3/6 for the night. Smith hit clutch free throws and attacked the jar. He had the look of a sniper at times. Blakney looked focused shooting pressure free throws.

There are others that may lead to something. One would be Smith's continued development at point guard. He just looks NY tough.

Two more points would have made for a calmer critique for sure.

[OSU Flyer]

@Andrew__Slater
6’9” Asa Newell’24
@NewellAsa
of
@ChoctawHoopsFWB
&
@1FamilyHoops
has earned offers from Florida, Arkansas, Alabama, Illinois, Ole Miss, Wake Forest, Oklahoma St. & GT as well as interest from Auburn, Dayton, FSU, Cincinnati & UCF. He’s visited Florida & UCF. #CityOfPalmsClassic

[Jeff]

https://twitter.com/jeffneace/status...41661455904772

[OSU Flyer]

@Corey_Albertson
2024 wing Jonathan Powell, formerly of Dayton Chaminade Julienne but heading to Centerville, starting to blow up. One of the best talents in Ohio in the 2024 class.

@TravisGrafHoops
Sources tell Rivals that Illinois has offered Wildcat Select 2024 guard Jonathan Powell on the heels of his breakout performance of 45 points against Indiana Elite.

Top talent in the junior class.

#3SSB

[TommyGola]

The Flyers have an offer out on him as well. There is some limited video out there on Jonathan. He is lean - 6'4"/170 pounds. He has the potential to score in a lot of ways; runs the court well and has a good handle. His stroke is a bit odd and I saw no buckets off the dribble. He uses the glass very well and glides through defenders with a quick first-step. I am trying to think whom he reminds me of. He sort of reminds me of Weaver with his ability to use the glass and glide through the paint.

[OSU Flyer]

There was a Jonathan Powell who played at Middletown Christian and I believe Springfield Central Catholic with Jason Collier. Wonder if he's any relation

[lhsgolf19]

Jacob Theodosiou
@JacobTheodosiou
Blessed to receive a Division 1 offer from the University of Dayton. #goflyers
@DaytonMBB

6'3" Canadian Guard plays for Western Reserve in Hudson

[FlyerinChicago]

Thought it weird he said division 1 offer, as if he wasn’t sure we were D1. Nonetheless, great talent with high interest
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[Medford]

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/clas...iu-basketball/


An article about Theodosiu from a Hoosier web site, sounds like Woodson offered him some time back.

[UDGutter2]

Well, after an offer from the Hoosiers, he was happy to get a D1 offer. Lol

[jack72]

Originally Posted by Medford https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/clas...iu-basketball/ An article about Theodosiu from a Hoosier web site, sounds like Woodson offered him some time back.

Do not think he has been offered by IU. He visited and they are interested.

"To this point South Carolina, Youngstown State, Lehigh and Ohio have offered Theodosiou. Indiana plans to keep an eye on him and attend some games as he competes against a challenging schedule this fall and winter."

[OSU Flyer]

@POBScout
2024 G Jacob Theodosiou added an offer from Dayton

"This offer was truly an honor as Dayton is a big-time program. Coach Grant is known as one of the best coaches so him taking notice of me is special."

Villanova, Indiana, West Virginia, Pittsburgh showing interest #PhenomHoops


Nice praise for AG

[OSU Flyer]

@g3risingstars
Dayton, Ball St, Miami of Ohio, Marquette, Wisconsin, Cincinatti, PFW, Illinois St, IUPUI, Houston, UAB, Indiana St., Missouri, DePaul, Utah, Illinois, Michigan, Iowa, Rhode Island and more showing interest
@garweypual_2023 @G3_All_Indy 17U @ny2lasports @INBBallSource @MHS_Boys_

@INBBallSource
Recruit breakdown: Garwey Dual.

The 2023 @G3_All_Indy and @CarmelMBB guard has high-major programs taking notice after two weeks of outstanding play.

More on Dual:
http://inbasketballsource.com/recrui...wn-garwey-dual

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by jack72 Do not think he has been offered by IU. He visited and they are interested. "To this point South Carolina, Youngstown State, Lehigh and Ohio have offered Theodosiou. Indiana plans to keep an eye on him and attend some games as he competes against a challenging schedule this fall and winter."

To me this smells a bit like Trent Meachum. Sounds like he really wants to go to IU.
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[Hyde Park Flyer]

Trent had a family connection to Illinois. His situation was different from other players who have transferred out. Trent’s dream was to play at Illinois, and that opportunity only presented itself after Trent’s outstanding play for UD. Theo is a Canadian kid looking to make it in the US.
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[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer To me this smells a bit like Trent Meachum. Sounds like he really wants to go to IU. Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer Trent had a family connection to Illinois. His situation was different from other players who have transferred out. Trent’s dream was to play at Illinois, and that opportunity only presented itself after Trent’s outstanding play for UD. Theo is a Canadian kid looking to make it in the US. Posted via Mobile Device

That article was also wrote by an IU website. Of course it's going to have an IU slant to it.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer To me this smells a bit like Trent Meachum. Sounds like he really wants to go to IU. Posted via Mobile Device

He has also visited WVU and Pitt, although neither has offered yet. You know what happens when we go up against Huggins for a recruit.

[OSU Flyer]

@NextUpHayden
2024 6’4 CG Jonathan Powell just picked up an offer from Texas A&M.

Dayton & Illinois have already offered the rising junior out of Centerville HS (OH) as well! #NextUp
@wildcatselect

@NextUpRecruits

[lhsgolf19]

UD offers the Top Player in the State for 2024

TXM35
@txm35
Thank you Coach Greer for coming to visit today

Blessed to receive an offer from the University of Dayton
@DaytonMBB #GoFlyers ❤️��

@LindarInsights @TuffyJunior @CoachRicardoHil

https://twitter.com/txm35/status/1519710009856335872

6'8" Top 100 Recruit Tyler McKinley out of Cincinnati

[OSU Flyer]

Free update from 247 on Jonathan Powell.


https://247sports.com/college/basket...ier-187034126/

[TheDuke2003]

Sounds to me like Powell is looking more at the Big 10.

[N2663R]

Originally Posted by TheDuke2003 Sounds to me like Powell is looking more at the Big 10.

Good. They can do the heavy lifting to get him ready to play for UD.

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by N2663R Good. They can do the heavy lifting to get him ready to play for UD.

N2663R: Although I do not believe you intended to be serious in this comment, you may be quite correct in the long run!

[lhsgolf19]

On the 1st day of UD’s weekend Team Camp

UD offers 6’1”/6’2” Guard Dellquan Warren who plays in Erie, PA

He was offered by Ohio State at their camp yesterday
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[flyer016]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 On the 1st day of UD’s weekend Team Camp UD offers 6’1”/6’2” Guard Dellquan Warren who plays in Erie, PA He was offered by Ohio State at their camp yesterday Posted via Mobile Device

Kid can definitely play.

https://tinyurl.com/33zwew8y

[CvilleFlyer]

Originally Posted by flyer016 Kid can definitely play. https://tinyurl.com/33zwew8y

Looks like a hi-Flyer to me!

[OSU Flyer]

Good to have team camps back after a two year absence. Great recruiting tool to gets kids on campus and see the facilities

[OSU Flyer]

@jakelieberman2
2024 guard Kameren Wright (
@KamerenWright
) tells me that he’s now receiving interest from UCF, Missouri, USF, VCU, Dayton, among others.

Wright was offered by Jacksonville University yesterday.

[Columbia Blue]

247 profile and offers/visits list

https://247sports.com/player/dellquan-warren-46110640/

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 On the 1st day of UD’s weekend Team Camp UD offers 6’1”/6’2” Guard Dellquan Warren who plays in Erie, PA He was offered by Ohio State at their camp yesterday Posted via Mobile Device

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by UDGutter2 Or he said, "they need me."

Reviewing old posts, and I came across this one about Jonathan Powell, which was a reply to a previous one. Reminded me of a situation during the 1998-99 season, when our top recruit for the following year was Brooks Hall. A friend and I were in the Christmas Pep Band, and we had a similar discussion about our perception of Brooks’ thoughts as our Flyers were stinking up the Arena that night. We agreed that, watching that mess, Brooks was probably thinking he’d come in the next year and start immediately. Just then, as if “on cue”, who came walking by but Brooks Hall! Man, did my friend and I get the stink eye that night! 😂
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	Brooks Hall BROOKS HALL 6-6 205lb Troy HS | Troy (OH) Cool, calm, cerebral wing player who finished among the Top-25 scorers in Flyer history. Deadly three-point shot and excellent passing skills. Helped Dayton reach two NCAA tournaments under Oliver Purnell. Consensus Top-125 recruit out of Troy HS in 1999 where he was D-I First Team All-Ohio and the media's choice for Ohio Mr. Basketball. CAREER STATS 1999-00 10.4ppg 5.8rpg 2000-01 9.20ppg 4.6rpg 2001-02 13.2ppg 5.0rpg 2002-03 12.8ppg 6.9rpg TOTALS 1404pts 686rbs 275asts

[lhsgolf19]

Another new offer

Raleigh Burgess @raleigh_burgess

Super excited to announce that I have received an offer from the University of Dayton after my call with @CoachDHertz. My heart goes out to Coach Grant and his family and I’m grateful that he and the coaching staff believes in me. @DaytonMBB
https://twitter.com/raleigh_burgess/...NrZmHIbO0fE3tg

6'10"/6'11" big man out of Cincinnati Sycamore... Already has offers from Purdue, Indiana, Iowa, among others... He visited the Arena for a game this past season

Man what a classy kid!

[OSU Flyer]

He's been blowing up lately. Bunch of reported offers in the past couple of weeks

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Another new offer Raleigh Burgess @raleigh_burgess Super excited to announce that I have received an offer from the University of Dayton after my call with @CoachDHertz. My heart goes out to Coach Grant and his family and I’m grateful that he and the coaching staff believes in me. @DaytonMBB https://twitter.com/raleigh_burgess/...NrZmHIbO0fE3tg 6'10"/6'11" big man out of Cincinnati Sycamore... Already has offers from Purdue, Indiana, Iowa, among others... He visited the Arena for a game this past season Man what a classy kid!

Yes, very classy young man. One of the sites had him 100% going to IU. But if that were the case, why would he then accept a visit to UD? I wonder if our coaching staff were able to "pull a rabbit out of the hat?"

[OSU Flyer]

@POBScout
2024 Colin White @ColinWhite21 has informed #PhenomHoops that he has heard from Virginia, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Dayton, Air Force, GW, Northern Iowa, Ohio, Toledo, Miami (OH), Cincinnati, Illinois St, Belmont, Loyola, Butler, and Xavier.

wing out of Ottawa Glandorf

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[FlyerFanatic08]

Originally Posted by TommyGola Yes, very classy young man. One of the sites had him 100% going to IU. But if that were the case, why would he then accept a visit to UD? I wonder if our coaching staff were able to "pull a rabbit out of the hat?"

happens all the time. OSU football brings in kids who have given verbals to schools. nothing is final until that LOI is signed.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

It looks like he has also got offers from Wisconsin and X since UD offered. He has quite the war chest of offers now.
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[lhsgolf19]

New Offer

Jesse McCulloch@JesseMcCulloch4
21m

Blessed to say I have received a division 1 offer from Dayton University #GoFlyers
@coachjonesLE @sammybball87 @AuroraChevy @NEO_Spotlight @PrepHoopsOH @indyheatgymrats @LEFalconsHoops @DaytonMBB @CoachGrantUD
https://twitter.com/JesseMcCulloch4/...49242076536833

6'9" Big Man from Cleveland Lutheran East

[foolishpride]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 New Offer Jesse McCulloch@JesseMcCulloch4 21m Blessed to say I have received a division 1 offer from Dayton University #GoFlyers @coachjonesLE @sammybball87 @AuroraChevy @NEO_Spotlight @PrepHoopsOH @indyheatgymrats @LEFalconsHoops @DaytonMBB @CoachGrantUD https://twitter.com/JesseMcCulloch4/...49242076536833 6'9" Big Man from Cleveland Lutheran East

Where's Dayton University?

[N2663R]

Originally Posted by foolishpride Where's Dayton University?

It's just south of Right State . . .

[N2663R]

Originally Posted by foolishpride Where's Dayton University?

It's just south of Right State . . . or is it Write State?

[UDGutter2]

Southwest of Wrong School.

[Flyer Dave]

Instead of paying attention to how things are written…why not pay attention to all the schools offering him. Just saying.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Who else has offered? I’m curious.
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[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer Who else has offered? I’m curious. Posted via Mobile Device

Quick google search ( I still had free search coupons) for starters it appears the entire Big 10

[Hyde Park Flyer]

My coupons expired. I heard that they were available at the Kroger on the corner of Wenger and Union. Didn’t have time to make that hike. Anyhoo, I like the company Grant keeps on the recruiting circuit. I bet he kills it once he gets into a living room.
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[UDGutter2]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan Quick google search ( I still had free search coupons) for starters it appears the entire Big 10

They stopped putting them in the Sunday paper.

[Flyer Al]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer @jakelieberman2 2024 guard Kameren Wright ( @KamerenWright ) tells me that he’s now receiving interest from UCF, Missouri, USF, VCU, Dayton, among others. Wright was offered by Jacksonville University yesterday.

https://247sports.com/college/florid...ass-192928132/

A UD mention in this article about a Kameron Wright visit to Florida:

The high school junior said Dayton, Florida, Georgia Tech, Kansas, LSU and Oklahoma State are among the teams that are yet to extend scholarship offers but opened a dialogue. He added that “Florida, Kansas, Yale, USF, UCF, Dayton, FAU, Tulsa, Georgia Tech and LSU,” are the schools recruiting him hardest.

To me, it sounds like he wants an offer.

[lhsgolf19]

New Offer

Damarius Owens
@DamariusOwens1
·
9m
Blessed to receive an offer from the University of Dayton. ��⚪️ #GoFlyers
@DaytonMBB

https://twitter.com/DamariusOwens1/s...zUXLt9hNCwErFA

The 6'7-6'8" Forward is a New York native but is playing at Western Reserve Academy in Hudson... Same HS as Top Priority 2024 Target Jacob Theodosiou.

[lhsgolf19]

2 new Guard offers

6’5” SG out of Gainesville, FL Kameren Wright

6’3” CG out of Loganville, GA Gicarri Harris
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[Flyer Al]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 2 new Guard offers 6’5” SG out of Gainesville, FL Kameren Wright 6’3” CG out of Loganville, GA Gicarri Harris Posted via Mobile Device

Here is an article about Gicarri. Lots of high major competition including Purdue, the alma mater of his father, Glenn Robinson.


https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-b...icarri-harris/

[DallasFlyer]

Originally Posted by Flyer Al Here is an article about Gicarri. Lots of high major competition including Purdue, the alma mater of his father, Glenn Robinson. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-b...icarri-harris/

If he’s the Big Dog’s kid, I guess that makes him the little dog. Like a terrier or something.
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[Medford]

I must be getting old, cause a lot of the stars of my youth have had their kids pick up offers from UD in the last couple of seasons.


Sconnie Penn's son, Jamal Mashburn's kid and now Glen Robinson (plus I'm sure a few others I've forgotten about). Making me feel old

[MrFlyerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Flyer Al Here is an article about Gicarri. Lots of high major competition including Purdue, the alma mater of his father, Glenn Robinson. https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-b...icarri-harris/

Glenn Robinson III went to Michigan, so I wouldn't put too much into the Purdue influence. Surely there is some, but it's not necessarily a family pipeline situation.

[jack72]

The Big Dog, Glen, an ex-Purdue player is the father of Glen III. He is also the father of Harris.

From the Gold and Black, "but Purdue's gained real traction outside its normal recruiting footprint, after getting in on Harris early in part due to the fact that Harris is one of former Boilermaker star Glenn Robinson's sons."

[lhsgolf19]

New offer

Kyle ‘KJ’ Greene
@kj_witdasauce
blessed to receive an offer from the University of Dayton ���� #GoFlyers
https://twitter.com/kj_witdasauce/st...6ntFcI9A3VlXhQ

Top 100 6'2" PG who plays at Pace Academy in Atlanta... Really showed out this weekend at Flyin to the Hoop

[lhsgolf19]

Another new offer

6'1"-6'2" Top 150 PG Durral "Phat Phat" Brooks out of Grand Rapids.

He visited earlier for the SMU Game... Michigan and MSU both going after him as well, so gonna be tough.

[lhsgolf19]

New Offer

Jaden Smith
@JadenSmith323
·
11m
After a great talk with Coach Kane, I am blessed to receive a Division 1 Offer from the University of Dayton!

https://twitter.com/JadenSmith323/st...839690243?s=20

6'10"-6'11" Top 150 Big Man out of Chicago... He's visiting for the game this evening.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

UD is a great place for a big who can run the court. AG has a niche. He’s smart to exploit it.
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[Flyer68]

Seems like Jaden Smith would be an excellent recruit and love to have him for UD.

I am probably wrong but with continuing sentiment for UD to join the Big East in the future, why wouldn't he want DePaul, the hometown BE representative, and be playing against better competition and in front of hometown fans?

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Originally Posted by Flyer68 Seems like Jaden Smith would be an excellent recruit and love to have him for UD. I am probably wrong but with continuing sentiment for UD to join the Big East in the future, why wouldn't he want DePaul, the hometown BE representative, and be playing against better competition and in front of hometown fans?

DePaul plays in front of sparse crowds and is a moribund program. Koby transferred from DePaul tonUD for a reason, and it’s not because he wasn’t because of playing time.
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[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by Flyer68 be playing against better competition and in front of hometown fans?

January 2021 they finally won a big game beating #20 Seton Hall at home but only 557 fans cared enough to show up. Have a better chance of more people from Chicago at a UD game than a DePaul game

[CoffeeCan]

Can we recruit players that can

1. Contribute
2. Not transfer
3. Not be asked to leave the team

Would be nice.

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer UD is a great place for a big who can run the court. AG has a niche. He’s smart to exploit it. Posted via Mobile Device

Do you think he was impressed by what he saw tonight? The Flyers lose to a less-tan-mediocre George Mason team...what a very poor game to attend.

[longtimefan67]

Originally Posted by TommyGola Do you think he was impressed by what he saw tonight? The Flyers lose to a less-tan-mediocre George Mason team...what a very poor game to attend.

Maybe he sees himself helping out immediately. I'm sure Dayton's had recruits sign after attending a loss.

[MrFlyerFanatic]

Originally Posted by TommyGola Do you think he was impressed by what he saw tonight? The Flyers lose to a less-tan-mediocre George Mason team...what a very poor game to attend.

I think he saw an offense that fed our big guy to the tune of 34 points. If I'm 6'10", that would get my attention.

[Flyer 86]

Guards, guards, guards!

[Flyer Al]

Ethan Lathan posted today that he has received an offer from UD. He is a 6"11 big man from Florida who 247 Sports rates as a 3 star and ESPN has him as a 4 star.

Also receiving interest from LSU, Florida State, Miami, NC State, Wake Forest, Old Dominion, Missouri State, and Virginia Tech.

https://twitter.com/Ethanlathan22/st...194622494?s=20

[lhsgolf19]

Also offered 6’4” Guard Larry Johnson out of California
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[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Also offered 6’4” Guard Larry Johnson out of California Posted via Mobile Device

Related to Grandmama?

[rollo]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Also offered 6’4” Guard Larry Johnson out of California Posted via Mobile Device

https://verbalcommits.com/players/larry-johnson

https://twitter.com/larrygetbuckets?lang=en

[CvilleFlyer]

Larry Johnson is a 6'4" shooting guard that plays above the rim. Loves to go left (unlike Mali who loves to go right) and finishes with either hand comfortably in traffic. I hope we get him because all the P5 schools seem to be putting him on their radar after his showing at EYBL.

[Swampy Meadows]

Not sounding good on the Jonathan Powell front, according to 247 Sports:

https://247sports.com/college/basket...ech-209275604/

[SeasonTicketFan]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows Not sounding good on the Jonathan Powell front, according to 247 Sports: https://247sports.com/college/basket...ech-209275604/

Should not be a surprise. UD has never been able to compete for recruits with those programs.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan Should not be a surprise. US has never been able to compete for recruits with those programs.

Not sure who US is, but if you’re referring to UD you are very wrong. Just see-DaRon Holmes, Toumani Camara, Dwayne Cohill among others. In fact, UD has done very well recruiting against these types of programs.

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by TA111 Not sure who US is, but if you’re referring to UD you are very wrong. Just see-DaRon Holmes, Toumani Camara, Dwayne Cohill among others. In fact, UD has done very well recruiting against these types of programs.

For whatever reason, Grant has never recruited well locally.

In the last two classes, Jonathan Powell, Devin Royal (Columbus), Dailyn Swain (Columbus), Gabe Cupps, Adam Parks, George Washington (dad is on the women's staff), Lawrent Rice all had offers, I believe.

It's not necessarily a criticism. Grant's recruiting is fine. He just hasn't focused on local players. Might be NIL. Might be Grant's preference. Might just have bad luck.

	George Washington GEORGE WASHINGTON Students choose from two distinct GW campuses — Foggy Bottom and Mount Vernon. Both are located in historic and prestigious Northwest Washington, DC residential neighborhoods. With 9,700 undergraduate students, GW was founded almost 200 years ago and is named after the first President of the United States. GW stands as one of the nation's premier academic institutions with dozens of famous political, social, science, liberal arts, medical and professional graduates to its credit. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Colonials.

[OSU Flyer]

There’s no shame in losing the recruiting battles for Ohio players in the list above. Ohio State, Michigan and Indiana aren’t easy to beat, even for a good recruiter with the A10 as an anchor

Rice is interesting one because he had at point a bunch of power conference offers and ended up at Murray St.
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[steve]

Originally Posted by flyer016 For whatever reason, Grant has never recruited well locally. In the last two classes, Jonathan Powell, Devin Royal (Columbus), Dailyn Swain (Columbus), Gabe Cupps, Adam Parks, George Washington (dad is on the women's staff), Lawrent Rice all had offers, I believe. It's not necessarily a criticism. Grant's recruiting is fine. He just hasn't focused on local players. Might be NIL. Might be Grant's preference. Might just have bad luck.

Interesting post. To be honest, I'm not sure he's been focused on the 4-5 star recruits/elite level players locally for what could be several reasons and maybe there's behind-the-scenes discussions we're not privy to where these players tell AG and staff thanks but no thanks, as in don't waste your time.

	George Washington GEORGE WASHINGTON Students choose from two distinct GW campuses — Foggy Bottom and Mount Vernon. Both are located in historic and prestigious Northwest Washington, DC residential neighborhoods. With 9,700 undergraduate students, GW was founded almost 200 years ago and is named after the first President of the United States. GW stands as one of the nation's premier academic institutions with dozens of famous political, social, science, liberal arts, medical and professional graduates to its credit. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Colonials.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by flyer016 For whatever reason, Grant has never recruited well locally.

O'Brien, Purnell, Gregory and Miller didn't recruit well locally either. There have been a couple local diamonds in the rough (Landers), but the list of 4- and 5-star locals who signed with UD pretty much starts and ends with Chris Wright (Staten doesn't count).

Without going back to the stone age, had UD in recent times been able to keep the likes of Collier, Baker, Cook, Hutson, Payne, Taylor, Sato, Carson, etc.. we'd be a powerhouse.

But it certainly isn't a Grant problem. It's a UD problem.

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

	Brian Gregory BRIAN GREGORY UD Men's Basketball Head Coach since 2004. Groomed by the likes of Judd Heathcoate and Tom Izzo at Michigan State, as well as Kevin O'Neill and others, Gregory's defensive-minded leadership has led Dayton to NCAA and multiple NIT appearances. A good recruiter, BG has elevated the athleticism of the squad in recent years and kept top area talent at home. Still looking for that breakthrough season with his own players that catapult him to the NCAA tourney. Graduated from Oakland University.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Originally Posted by flyer016 For whatever reason, Grant has never recruited well locally. In the last two classes, Jonathan Powell, Devin Royal (Columbus), Dailyn Swain (Columbus), Gabe Cupps, Adam Parks, George Washington (dad is on the women's staff), Lawrent Rice all had offers, I believe. It's not necessarily a criticism. Grant's recruiting is fine. He just hasn't focused on local players. Might be NIL. Might be Grant's preference. Might just have bad luck.

Just a side note: GWIII wasn't really a local. He went to high school for three years in Louisville before moving here for this past year. His dad is no longer on the women's staff.

	George Washington GEORGE WASHINGTON Students choose from two distinct GW campuses — Foggy Bottom and Mount Vernon. Both are located in historic and prestigious Northwest Washington, DC residential neighborhoods. With 9,700 undergraduate students, GW was founded almost 200 years ago and is named after the first President of the United States. GW stands as one of the nation's premier academic institutions with dozens of famous political, social, science, liberal arts, medical and professional graduates to its credit. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Colonials.

[older than u]

Maybe local talent is able to see posts on UDPRIDE.

[flyer016]

I want to emphasize this is not necessarily a criticism of Grant, more likely a preference of his.

But there's really no argument that Grant has not recruited locally (Columbus-Dayton-Cincinnati) as well as the coaches that preceded him.

BG landing Wright and Staten are an example of hitting local homeruns. Throw in Josh Benson, Chris Johnson, Matt Kavanaugh, Ralph Hill, Jalen Robinson and Devon Scott. Obviously, they didn't all work out, and some you probably want a do-over on, but the point is recruiting was more local.

Archie was less invested locally. Primarily, just Landers, Mikesell and Xeyrius Williams, maybe you count Big Steve from Fort Wayne.

Certainly, geographic proximity means less in present times than it did even 10 years ago. So, again, not necessarily blaming Grant, but you'd think there's a small advantage still. Ostensibly, you should have local connections and have a better read on diamonds in the rough. On occasion, you'd think proximity would be an advantage in landing bigger recruits as well.

[OSU Flyer]

Would someone from the Dayton area have any increased NIL opportunities if they stayed local?

[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by flyer016 BG landing Wright and Staten are an example of hitting local homeruns.

Maybe on paper Staten was a homerun but UD would have been better off losing that recruiting battle

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by flyer016 I want to emphasize this is not necessarily a criticism of Grant, more likely a preference of his. But there's really no argument that Grant has not recruited locally (Columbus-Dayton-Cincinnati) as well as the coaches that preceded him. BG landing Wright and Staten are an example of hitting local homeruns. Throw in Josh Benson, Chris Johnson, Matt Kavanaugh, Ralph Hill, Jalen Robinson and Devon Scott. Obviously, they didn't all work out, and some you probably want a do-over on, but the point is recruiting was more local. Archie was less invested locally. Primarily, just Landers, Mikesell and Xeyrius Williams, maybe you count Big Steve from Fort Wayne. Certainly, geographic proximity means less in present times than it did even 10 years ago. So, again, not necessarily blaming Grant, but you'd think there's a small advantage still. Ostensibly, you should have local connections and have a better read on diamonds in the rough. On occasion, you'd think proximity would be an advantage in landing bigger recruits as well.

Robinson and Scott were AM guys, not BG.

[steve]

Originally Posted by NCkevi Maybe on paper Staten was a homerun but UD would have been better off losing that recruiting battle

It was still a huge recruiting win. How a guy plays out a year later is totally different unless Miss Cloe is involved.

[OSU Flyer]

Jonathan Powell to Xavier

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer Jonathan Powell to Xavier

Bummer. Been out of this recruitment for a while, but this is why you can miss me with the "Grant is a great recruiter" stuff.

Powell's in the backyard, was on campus a lot as a young high school player, and played with the then-associate head coach's son at CJ (and likely knew Grant's kids). And we were nowhere close in the end.

Again, Grant's biggest problem isn't recruiting, but he's certainly not a dynamic recruiter. He's hit a homerun and found a diamond in the rough. All in all, it's been on-par with those that came before him. He certainly hasn't upped the ante.

Hard to be too excited about the recruiting momentum as well. A three-star, a European mystery (and Marvel Allen, forgot about him!) and not much else to show for the previous two recruiting classes. Suppose Sharavjamts was a good land, but that was pretty messy from day one.

[The Gem]

I will say this about local players, many of them will just want to go somewhere else just to be somewhere else. I know when I was a teenager I wanted to go anywhere but UD or WSU. My mom worked at UD so my folks very much wanted me to go there. My folks won the argument. It worked well for me as I very enjoyed my time at UD much more than I ever thought I would and after college when everyone's student loan bills started coming due, I was very glad I "lost" the argument.

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by flyer016 Bummer. Been out of this recruitment for a while, but this is why you can miss me with the "Grant is a great recruiter" stuff. Powell's in the backyard, was on campus a lot as a young high school player, and played with the then-associate head coach's son at CJ (and likely knew Grant's kids). And we were nowhere close in the end. Again, Grant's biggest problem isn't recruiting, but he's certainly not a dynamic recruiter. He's hit a homerun and found a diamond in the rough. All in all, it's been on-par with those that came before him. He certainly hasn't upped the ante. Hard to be too excited about the recruiting momentum as well. A three-star, a European mystery and nothing else to show for the previous two recruiting classes. Suppose Sharavjamts was a good land, but that was pretty messy from day one.

You either dismiss some of the best recruits we've seen in decades or leave them out all together. I'd argue finding a diamond in the rough (which describes both Obi and Jalen) may be more impressive than landing a sure thing.

You also dismiss guys that haven't even stepped on the court at UD based on ratings or lack thereof. Some of our best players ever (CJ, BRob, Jalen) were 2-3 star guys.

Mike came here and he's high profile and on lists. It's too early to tell if it's hype or not. Jalen is on the cusp of the league, Obi is in the league, and we have Camara and Holmes in several mocks being drafted in the 2nd.

I've been following this team for 40+ years and have never seen this kind of real interest from the NBA that we are seeing now. I don't see how anyone can argue this based on the realities that exist. If anyone can provide details of similar results from OP, BG, AM or even DD I'd be glad to change my mind.

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by The Gem I will say this about local players, many of them will just want to go somewhere else just to be somewhere else. I know when I was a teenager I wanted to go anywhere but UD or WSU. My mom worked at UD so my folks very much wanted me to go there. My folks won the argument. It worked well for me as I very enjoyed my time at UD much more than I ever thought I would and after college when everyone's student loan bills started coming due, I was very glad I "lost" the argument.

Certainly some truth to this, and I think younger generations have their eyes open to the wider world than we did in the early and pre-internet days.

I also think we're feeling the effects of being left behind. If you've got an offer to play in the Big East and an offer to play in the sinking A10, all things being equal, that's a pretty easy choice.

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer You either dismiss some of the best recruits we've seen in decades or leave them out all together. I'd argue finding a diamond in the rough (which describes both Obi and Jalen) may be more impressive than landing a sure thing. You also dismiss guys that haven't even stepped on the court at UD based on ratings or lack thereof. Some of our best players ever (CJ, BRob, Jalen) were 2-3 star guys. Mike came here and he's high profile and on lists. It's too early to tell if it's hype or not. Jalen is on the cusp of the league, Obi is in the league, and we have Camara and Holmes in several mocks being drafted in the 2nd. I've been following this team for 40+ years and have never seen this kind of real interest from the NBA that we are seeing now. I don't see how anyone can argue this based on the realities that exist. If anyone can provide details of similar results from OP, BG, AM or even DD I'd be glad to change my mind.

Sort this link by draft year: https://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/c...16/nba-players

You'll see that the Dayton alumni that played in the NBA has not seen a notable uptick in recent years. Despite being Crutcher being on the cusp, Toppin's the only NBA player Grant has produced at UD.

I think both Holmes and Camara will get at the very least cups of coffee, but I don't think Mike's shown NBA caliber yet.

And this is the point. Lots of hype and optimism, not much in the way of production.


Hope we can regain some recruiting momentum in the 2024 class.

[Monster Man]

Originally Posted by flyer016 Certainly some truth to this, and I think younger generations have their eyes open to the wider world than we did in the early and pre-internet days. I also think we're feeling the effects of being left behind. If you've got an offer to play in the Big East and an offer to play in the sinking A10, all things being equal, that's a pretty easy choice.

Generally speaking, trying to recruit high profile local kids to play for Dayton in the weak A10 is a difficult obstacle to overcome. This won’t change until our league affiliation is significantly upgraded. Yes, we have great facilities and fan support, but playing road games in high school gyms in a one bid conference is a tough sell. Sucks that he chose that miserable school forty miles south!

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by flyer016 Certainly some truth to this, and I think younger generations have their eyes open to the wider world than we did in the early and pre-internet days. I also think we're feeling the effects of being left behind. If you've got an offer to play in the Big East and an offer to play in the sinking A10, all things being equal, that's a pretty easy choice.

I'd be surprised if we have had signed even 10 high profile local players in the last 25 years. I can think of KW, CWright, and Staten who signed. We also got Toney after he went Juco. Ryan Mikesell was a real nice player but I don't remember him being high profile.

I've also never bought in to the mentality that you have to win the battle for the local guys to be successful. This one guy is neither new or trending.

If Daron would just announce his intentions, I could go away and stop bothering/arguing other's posts. That and get my grass cut. It is looking real shaggy.