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So the question is when will our schedule be known?

The Myrtle Beach tournament is moving to Orlando along with seven other ones. So, my guess is we will start down there. It sounded to me like six nonconference games will be played. The simple thing to do would be to play the Myrtle Beach classic in Orlando, and then play three other games with other teams that are down there. And amazing thing would be If they took the champions of the eight tournaments and had a champion of champions tournament The following week in Orlando.
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Total number of games reduced by 4

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Andy Katz released his list of top returning players:
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Catching up.......

Back on 8/31, in this thread, sheg posted a twitter item regarding stats/analysis on Jalen Crutcher. Pretty interesting stuff.

The author, DSamangy (Dominic), is my grandson and his twin brother is a student manager for the St John Red Storm. Both are juniors this year.

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Dom is on the manager staff......

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RJ is 22.
That can't be right, can it? Typo on his roster page?
He played HS ball in Maryland in 2018-19, so he couldn't have turned 19 before September of 2018. Meaning at the very, very oldest, he could have turned 21 this month?
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That can't be right, can it? Typo on his roster page?
He played HS ball in Maryland in 2018-19, so he couldn't have turned 19 before September of 2018. Meaning at the very, very oldest, he could have turned 21 this month?
I had the same reaction. But I believe op meant number 22 (not age haha). On the website RJ is listed as #23.
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I had the same reaction. But I believe op meant number 22 (not age haha). On the website RJ is listed as #23.
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In his full Bio on the website his birthday is listed as June 8, 1998. That makes him 22 years old.
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RJ is older than Jalen
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In his full Bio on the website his birthday is listed as June 8, 1998. That makes him 22 years old.
Wow that seems unbelievable. I know he prepped for a year but that seems old.
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So we would have a 26 year old graduating with 4 years on the squad? Something just tells me that dog doesn't hunt. Just has an odor to it.
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Old 09-18-2020, 10:53 AM
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RJ is older than Jalen
Is he older than Obi? Never mind......I looked it up. Obi is a little more than 3 months older than RJ

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I believe RJ’s birth date is 6/8/00. This would make him 20. If 1998 was used it seem to be a misprint.
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I believe RJís birth date is 6/8/00. This would make him 20. If 1998 was used it seem to be a misprint.
Yes, below site lists his dob as June 8, 2000...that makes him 20 years old right now.

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Well, now I am not sure...both below sites list June 8, 1998 as his dob.

???


https://daytonflyers.com/sports/mens...-blakney/10856


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Well, now I am not sure...both below sites list June 8, 1998 as his dob.

???


https://daytonflyers.com/sports/mens...-blakney/10856


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It would very unusual for him to have graduated high school at 21 and then take a post grad year.
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It would very unusual for him to have graduated high school at 21 and then take a post grad year.
I remember vividly having dreams in my late 20ís that I was a 20-21 yr old playing HS football and just dominating. I also doubt he was 21 when he graduated HS.
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Logically a DOB of 8 June 2000 makes more sense. It is a little hard to believe that he is 22.
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Lindy's Rates Dayton

Saw the Lindy's basketball magazine today. They rate the A-10 as 8th in the conferences. They pick Dayton to finish 4th behind St. Louis, Richmond, St. Bonaventure. Crutcher is picked for first team all conference. Crutcher is the only Dayton player on their first, second, or third teams. He is also rated 51 in their top 150 players. Llndy's says Dayton could land a NCAA playoff spot. They like the guards, but they say it is unproven underneath the basket. If I remember right, they didn't pick Dayton very high last year.
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Saw the Lindy's basketball magazine today. They rate the A-10 as 8th in the conferences. They pick Dayton to finish 4th behind St. Louis, Richmond, St. Bonaventure. Crutcher is picked for first team all conference. Crutcher is the only Dayton player on their first, second, or third teams. He is also rated 51 in their top 150 players. Llndy's says Dayton could land a NCAA playoff spot. They like the guards, but they say it is unproven underneath the basket. If I remember right, they didn't pick Dayton very high last year.
Guess they've never heard of Ibi Watson or Rodney Chatman. Fine by me. Love this under the radar stuff. Remember we were unranked heading into the season last year.
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I used to be an under the radar guy but after last season I have changed my mind. I like the idea of having enough talent every year to be expected to be a top 25 team. That should be the goal now. The old 2 or 3 NCAA tournaments every four years is pre Grant thinking. I think we all need to reassess our collective goals.
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I used to be an under the radar guy but after last season I have changed my mind. I like the idea of having enough talent every year to be expected to be a top 25 team. That should be the goal now. The old 2 or 3 NCAA tournaments every four years is pre Grant thinking. I think we all need to reassess our collective goals.
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Guess they've never heard of Ibi Watson or Rodney Chatman. Fine by me. Love this under the radar stuff. Remember we were unranked heading into the season last year.
Relax. If you read the article he said he likes the guards but they are unproven under the basket which is totally correct. Dayton lost the best player in the country and a lot of leadership in Landers and Mikesell. You got your biggest guy coming back that could not stay out of foul trouble for more than 2 minutes.
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I bet at least two of the frosh will have breakout years.

I'm excited about this year's team and the fact that they are under the radar. Just like Obi was last year, and look how that turned out.
I agree that two of them could have breakout years on a college basketball team, but I just wonder who they could possibly take minutes from on this team.
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Well, there are only six non-freshmen on the roster, so at least two of them must earn minutes or this won't be a very deep team.
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I agree that two of them could have breakout years on a college basketball team, but I just wonder who they could possibly take minutes from on this team.
My vote, if I were to predict which two freshman would have a breakout year would be based upon maturation age. So, I would bet on Zimi Nwokeji and R. J. Blakney as my two choices. They are both older than your average freshman.

We have no returning starter at the four (forward) position. Therefore, the answer to your question is that they take no minutes away from any incumbent.
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I feel like, after Crutcher really burst upon the national scene last year, that some writers are either forgetting or think his success was due mostly to #1. Many, including Jay Bilas, by the end of the year were saying Crutcher was THE point guard they would most want with the ball in their hands at the end of a game. I remember ESPN did a thing with the top five, which included Cassius Winston, and all four of the talking heads said Crutcher was the number one guy on that list. I don't think he'll surprise anyone this year but I think he will make people remember again just how good he was last year.
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My vote, if I were to predict which two freshman would have a breakout year would be based upon maturation age. So, I would bet on Zimi Nwokeji and R. J. Blakney as my two choices. They are both older than your average freshman.

We have no returning starter at the four (forward) position. Therefore, the answer to your question is that they take no minutes away from any incumbent.
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I guess I was referring to newcomers to the team. I wasn't thinking about Zimi. Yes, I think he will definitely have a huge impact and get ten to twenty minutes a game. As far as freshman who were not on the team last year, I think it would be very hard to take any minutes away from any of our experienced 1s, 2s, or 3s.
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I guess I was referring to newcomers to the team. I wasn't thinking about Zimi. Yes, I think he will definitely have a huge impact and get ten to twenty minutes a game. As far as freshman who were not on the team last year, I think it would be very hard to take any minutes away from any of our experienced 1s, 2s, or 3s.
Last year, Jalen payed an average of 33 minutes per game. Ibi was 22 and Rodney was 26. (See statistics on Dayton web page). That is out of a 40 minute game.

I would expect these minutes to Be the same this year. With a shorter season (fewer number of games) as impacted by the COVID virus; there should be less wear and tear on players stamina. I would expect Brea to red shirt. Zimi, Chase and Blakney will swallow minutes at forward. That only leaves Cohill and Luke Frazier with remaining minutes of which Frazier will get few minutes.

The only good thing about a freshman is that eventually they become sophomoreís does not apply to Zimi and Blakney because they are older guys.

Thatís what I think but I am just an avid fan. Others on this blog know more than I.
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I guess I was referring to newcomers to the team. I wasn't thinking about Zimi. Yes, I think he will definitely have a huge impact and get ten to twenty minutes a game. As far as freshman who were not on the team last year, I think it would be very hard to take any minutes away from any of our experienced 1s, 2s, or 3s.
While I generally agree with your observations, I think there will be opportunities for limited backcourt minutes, if the new guys practice and play the way CAG expects them to practice and play.

Coach has set a standard. Do it MY way, and youíll get your chances. Do it YOUR way, and donít plan take off your warmups. If Luke, Koby, RJ, et al buy-in, there will be some minutes available. Will they supplant the 3 Seniors in the rotation? Almost certainly not. But can they earn their way into a supporting role? Almost certainly.
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One thing I can say for certain that I've continued to say for the last two years is that Crutcher will log lots of minutes again this year. I would guess this year he will get back to 35 mpg and by crunch time late in the season he will be playing almost all 40 minutes.
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There are a number of priorities that could affect Crutcher's minutes. First we enjoyed the flexibility of having two very good point guards which allowed us to play at a high level for forty minutes. This kept Crutcher's minutes down. Also allowed us to keep him out of foul trouble.

We still have both of those point guards which I believe will keep his minutes around 34-36 for the overall health and effectiveness of both the player and the team. I expect him to be in the game for the last 10 minutes of every close contest.

I expect Chatman to be closer to 30 minutes this season, up from 26+ last season, because spelling Jalen will keep him fresh. Jalen will get double teams and draw the best defender because we have no Obi to draw all the attention and unbalance the floor.

We need him fresh and not in foul trouble at crunch time.
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i'd like to see Crutcher, Chatman and Watson all get 30+ minutes a game, and I'd like to see Cohiill spell them for 20+ minutes a game.

Johnson and Nwokeji on a timeshare with Johnson getting the heavy end.

Tshimanga/Sissoko on a timeshare.

Let Blakney, Frazier and Brea fill in as needed and as they develop. Cool with any of them redshirting as well.

It obviously won't be that clean--there will be injuries and other surprises--but make no mistake, this team is going as far as the veteran backcourt can take them.
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Is it just me, or does it look like a Jordy is in great shape this year based on twitter pictures/video? I would love for Jordy to be a huge surprise this season.
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Is it just me, or does it look like a Jordy is in great shape this year based on twitter pictures/video? I would love for Jordy to be a huge surprise this season.
Remember, during the pre-season Jordy injured his foot. I don't think he was ever 100%. He looks leaner, yet more muscular. He had to do some work with his hands. If that is the case, he could have a big year - 10 points/8 rebounds/2 blocks per game would be ideal.
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Remember, during the pre-season Jordy injured his foot. I don't think he was ever 100%. He looks leaner, yet more muscular. He had to do some work with his hands. If that is the case, he could have a big year - 10 points/8 rebounds/2 blocks per game would be ideal.
I agree his biggest problems have been his hands and his footwork, especially on defense. Loss of weight can help footwork.
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Moulaye could surprise

It's very possible that Moulaye was a pretty powerful physique as a model for Jordy. He also may be blessed with the hands and footwork that Jordy is developing.

I can't recall the player that was nicknamed "Windex" because he wiped the boards clean. Moulaye and Jordy could be those guys for us this season.
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Remember, during the pre-season Jordy injured his foot. I don't think he was ever 100%. He looks leaner, yet more muscular. He had to do some work with his hands. If that is the case, he could have a big year - 10 points/8 rebounds/2 blocks per game would be ideal.
I will bet you will not see those kind of numbers from him but that doesn't mean he won't be a contributor. And he can average a lot less than those stats and still be ideal.

We need him to be able to stay on the court and give us minutes. Just with his big body and ability to establish position and keep opponents out of the paint would be huge. Those are some of the abstract things he can do. He can also alter some shots at The rim and take on a couple guys to create rebounding space for other players.
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If Jordy averages nearly a double-double go ahead and book your final four tickets now. That kind of production would surprise even the most bullish Flyer fans. Not saying he can't do it, but that would be quite the leap.

Sissoko averaging double digits? Now that I can buy and in fact I believe he will score 10+ and would probably bet on it. Jordy's size and Chase's athleticism will draw attention away from Moulaye when he's in. Opposing defense will have to spend so much focus and energy on our elite guards that easy baskets for bigs will be plentiful. Chat and Cohill are known mostly as defenders but both have backgrounds as prolific scorers. Their increased court time and production will draw even more attention away from the bigs, especially in situations where we play small and there is only one true big man on the court.
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If Jordy averages nearly a double-double go ahead and book your final four tickets now. That kind of production would surprise even the most bullish Flyer fans. Not saying he can't do it, but that would be quite the leap.

Sissoko averaging double digits? Now that I can buy and in fact I believe he will score 10+ and would probably bet on it. Jordy's size and Chase's athleticism will draw attention away from Moulaye when he's in. Opposing defense will have to spend so much focus and energy on our elite guards that easy baskets for bigs will be plentiful. Chat and Cohill are known mostly as defenders but both have backgrounds as prolific scorers. Their increased court time and production will draw even more attention away from the bigs, especially in situations where we play small and there is only one true big man on the court.
I hope you are right about Sissoko but I’m not sure what you are basing your confidence on? The sample size is him playing an exhibition game against D3 competition (and primarily not even the starters of that team).

There were whispers a couple years ago about Obi while he was redshirted that obviously came to pass. I’m not aware of any such whispers about Sissoko.

Like I said, I’m hopeful but not confident CAG will get that type of production from him

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On a scale of 1 - 10 regarding athleticism...

Jordy is a 3

Sissoko is a 5

Both are big and strong...neither is quick or fast. Neither can jump.

But they're big and strong, which is important but without the other intangibles, will limit their productivity and playing time.
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It's easier to get excited about a new player who, to use a depressing phrase, hasn't had a chance to disappoint you yet. Reminds me of Hal McCoy writing of upcoming Reds that "prospects are suspects until proven otherwise."
I do have some optimism around Zimi and Sissoko for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is a year in the program. But for this year, the goal is just for them to "fit in" in real games against solid college players, contribute, and not be a drop-off.
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Jordy is a 3

Sissoko is a 5

Both are big and strong...neither is quick or fast. Neither can jump.

But they're big and strong, which is important but without the other intangibles, will limit their productivity and playing time.
You donít throw around ďBigĒ and ďStrongĒ adjectives freely...I get what you are saying about athleticism. If one or both of them can man up to Hassan French, Iíll be happy...
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You donít throw around ďBigĒ and ďStrongĒ adjectives freely...I get what you are saying about athleticism. If one or both of them can man up to Hassan French, Iíll be happy...
Just wondering on your scale what was Landers? Just trying to get a reference point for Mou.

Trey was an Ox but wondering athletically. Also KP...if you don't mind.
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Sissoko was said to be one of the best rebounders in his class , and Iíve seen tape of him where he looked plenty Athletic enough !
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Just wondering on your scale what was Landers? Just trying to get a reference point for Mou.

Trey was an Ox but wondering athletically. Also KP...if you don't mind.
Trey was a tremendous athlete. Had several offers to play WR coming out of Wayne.
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Crutcher and Chatman are very experienced and mature. They will be Jordy and Moulaye's best friends on the court. Both guards can get to the lane and draw attention. Ibi as well.

This should present opportunities for the bigs and their strong points. Nobody ever expected them to be Azubuike. We've got some beef, and I expect Coach will utilize it.

Matt Kavanaugh was not everyone's favorite guy, but in his later years with the program he put up some serviceable numbers. And a lot of hustle and beef. I think that level is a reasonable expectation for our current crop of bigs.
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Iím not sure what you are basing your confidence on?
Honestly it is a hunch, nothing more. By default he's going to get minutes at both the 4 and 5. With so much attention on the guards and the athleticism of Chase, easy dump down and clean up buckets are going to be plentiful. I think Moulaye will finish more of those opportunities than Jordy and thus 10 a game isn't that crazy.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope Jordy does score 10/game. That would mean we are probably a #5/#10 team.
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Crutcher is a special player ... with great passes to Obi, Trey, Mikesell for years ... real experience to a verity of skills. IMO he will improve his senior year to our bigs.

Defenses will key on Crutcher ... so I look for a few new wrinkles for our offense in 2020-2021.
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Crutcher is a special player ... with great passes to Obi, Trey, Mikesell for years ... real experience to a verity of skills. IMO he will improve his senior year to our bigs.

Defenses will key on Crutcher ... so I look for a few new wrinkles for our offense in 2020-2021.
The one thing he seemed to struggle a bit with last year was when teams ran doubles at him. But as you say, I expect this is something he will continue to get better at, and if teams do that this year and he has figured out how to handle it, watch out!
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In the last seconds of close games, Crutcher is a drama queen and demands the ball And rightfully so. He is going to draw doubles and the opponents will do anything short of a felony to get the ball out of his hands. Clutcher! Everyone has to stay alert and get to their spots.
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They are under-rating Jalen. By the end of the season, he will be considered one of the top five point guards, if not higher.
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They are under-rating Jalen. By the end of the season, he will be considered one of the top five point guards, if not higher.
Totally agree! When you watched college basketball shows last year they had him as a top 5 point guard last year. I think a lot of talking heads are either forgetting or thought Obi was the only reason he excelled. I think they will remember how good he was very quickly this year.
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"A limited number of fans will be allowed at the event, with masks required for all spectators and available for free upon entrance to the arena. The teams will stay in a controlled environment during their time in South Dakota and will be tested regularly for COVID-19."

Assuming 15% capacity limit, that would be 450 fans. So basically, if you are not a parent, Family of a staff member, or some Philthy Rich alarm, you are not getting in. So, I will be looking forward to watching this on television!
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good season preview in The Athletic by Seth Davis -- no major revelations. would still like more coverage or a UD beat writer. need a few more top 25 seasons and sweet 16's for that. Jablo's UD coverage remains the gold standard. Glad it's free to the public on ddn.com.

https://theathletic.com/2133044/2020...-a-o-after-obi

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Ceiling -- Yes, Dayton is green in the frontcourt, but there are enough options to believe Grant will be able to cobble together a full rotation. Tshimanga is the X factor. He doesn’t have to be Toppin, but if he can make himself into a reliable post scorer, that will really open things up for the guards. If that’s the case, this team is headed for the NCAA Tournament.

Floor -- As for the lack of depth, it’s not uncommon for teams to win with a short bench. The challenge that presents is when it comes to injuries and foul trouble. The late invite to the newfangled Battle 4 Atlantis presents a great opportunity, but one the Flyers might not be so prepared for out of the gate. If they lose two or three games in that event, their climb into the NCAA Tournament will get a lot steeper.

Final report -- The good news/bad news is that the Atlantic 10 will be tough, with Richmond and Saint Louis heading for unusually strong seasons. That means wins will be harder to come by, but they’ll also help more when they happen. The cupboard here is far from bare. As long as the Flyers stay healthy, they’ve got enough in their arsenal to get into the NCAA Tournament. They won’t be a No. 1 seed, but it would still feel like a win.
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The late invite to the newfangled Battle 4 Atlantis presents a great opportunity, but one the Flyers might not be so prepared for out of the gate. If they lose two or three games in that event, their climb into the NCAA Tournament will get a lot steeper.

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Thanks for posting Columbia. I have to laugh at the line above in the article though. Yep, 7 plus weeks (maybe more- who knows how long the Flyers knew they were going to this event) is not enough time for last years National Coach of the Year to prepare his team.
I think he was referring to is the uncertainty in the front court and ability to gel quickly with all the new faces, new roles, and youth. That has merit
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Naz Carter, the former UD signee under Archie, has been suspended from the University of Washington hoop squad:

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Here are a couple of recents on Jordy:

Senior spotlight: video Interview https://twitter.com/DaytonFlyers/sta...974897152?s=20

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Richmond's Nick Sherod out for the upcoming season with torn right ACL. Averaged in mid teens and always played well vs Flyers. Tore the left ACL in '18. Feel bad for the young man.
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Did not Richmond have a 4 headed monster? Sherod, Gilyard, Francis, and Golden
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Did not Richmond have a 4 headed monster? Sherod, Gilyard, Francis, and Golden

I dont count Golden as an anything. When he saw Obi or Trey, he ran home crying to momma. Abuse of a corpse is too gentle. At least the other three held their own against our counter-measures.
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This is Crutcher's team now.

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I dont count Golden as an anything. When he saw Obi or Trey, he ran home crying to momma. Abuse of a corpse is too gentle. At least the other three held their own against our counter-measures.
I agree. I saw the Richmond game in person last year. Their entire team impressed me except Golden. Obi dominated him on both ends of the court.

Tough blow for a Richmond with a key injury.

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Jacob Gilyard is the straw that stirs the spiders drink. Very high b-ball IQ, can score, ball hawk, 3-1 A/TO ratio. He makes it all work for them.
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Is there some sort of media day this season? I'm at least hankering for new photos on daytonflyers.com -- team and individual players ...

SLU & VCU have their player shots updated, for example. Rhody does not. No team photos.

UK's head shots are particularly nice:
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I wonder if there will even *be* traditional team photos in the COVID era, with a row of seated players in front of the standing bigs flanked on either side by coaches and staff. Any number of them in masks would capture this national nightmare for posterity.

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Dayton basketball to be featured on ESPN WING AM Thursday nights at 6 PM.
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It seems we are back to being nobodies. Not even a mention other than Crutcher.

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It seems we are back to being nobodies. Not even a mention other that Crutcher.

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uhh... 4 lines down Crutcher was Lunardi's pick for player of the year.
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I think that's what I said. Just Crutcher.
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Itís hard to predict what the rest of the team will do. You lost three Forward/wings who got the bulk of the minutes. Chase is back but can he stay healthy? Can jordy provide solid minutes without getting into foul trouble? Then all the new guys have never played a college minute.

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I totally agree that we have the possible ingredients, but we are a totally different team. With Obi lighting it up, our positive press was like a drink out of a fire hose. We have the swat to prove some people wrong. But we are going to have to earn the kudos several times over.
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Last year, we were an offensive juggernaut. When you remove the NPOY from that mix, it probably won't be as good. I'm at peace with that, but we are still going to be pretty good, IMO.

We were so good last year that even when we had a poor game on the road against a good team, I felt like we should win.
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Last year, we were an offensive juggernaut. When you remove the NPOY from that mix, it probably won't be as good. I'm at peace with that, but we are still going to be pretty good, IMO.

We were so good last year that even when we had a poor game on the road against a good team, I felt like we should win.
All the players who were on the team last year....should all be better this year (in theory), and more confident in the offense. Do the sum of those parts (improvement) add up to close to what we lost/graduated?

Losing Cohill hurts. IMO, we will need a freshman to surprise and make quality contributions this season early and often. I also have no idea what our defense will be. But f we can get a freshman rolling, because I think they all have good talent and upside, I think thatís the key.
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How good UD can be will depend on a lot on Chase Johnson. Unless injuries truly slowed him more than we realized, I don't envision a huge jump in production from Jordy (though I'd certainly welcome it), I'm sure a frosh or 2 will pop, but if Chase Johnson can find the form and health that had him a 4 star recruit, and our Guards lead the way as expected we could be turning heads again.
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How good UD can be will depend on a lot on Chase Johnson. Unless injuries truly slowed him more than we realized, I don't envision a huge jump in production from Jordy (though I'd certainly welcome it), I'm sure a frosh or 2 will pop, but if Chase Johnson can find the form and health that had him a 4 star recruit, and our Guards lead the way as expected we could be turning heads again.
I also think a lot hinges on Chase. He's the logical next in line to "fill Obi's shoes" in terms of size, position and body type. However, Mouleye needs to not be a dud, and Jordy needs to step into a role - specifically one where he's playing more, and where he softens those concrete bear paws of his (which definitely seemed to improve at the end of the season).

I also put a lot of our ability to succeed on Ibi. He can play, there's no doubt about that. I think him and Crutcher need to put up some serious offensive numbers, and Ibi is going to need to fill some of the hustle/defense that left with Mikesell and Trey.

Zimi is another that I am cautiously optimistic could contribute. There's not really a good scenario where he's not getting some minutes, so we need him to be productive.
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All the players who were on the team last year....should all be better this year (in theory), and more confident in the offense. Do the sum of those parts (improvement) add up to close to what we lost/graduated?

Losing Cohill hurts. IMO, we will need a freshman to surprise and make quality contributions this season early and often. I also have no idea what our defense will be. But f we can get a freshman rolling, because I think they all have good talent and upside, I think that’s the key.
To boil it down, does Chase/Moulaye/RJ/Luke/Brea/Zimi = Trey/Obi/Ryan/Cohill/Matos? Probably not, if we're being honest with ourselves. BUT, as you astutely point out the players that are on both sides of that equation are all +1 year in experience.

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Why is it that local reporters, or really nobody seems to have any real information on how our players look at practice? Is everything so secret?
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