2019-20 Transfer Market

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer What do we expect his attorney to say? Not sure that makes him innocent.

What part of Innocent Until Proven Guilty are you missing?
Jeesh!

___________________
A man sees what he wants to see, And disregards the rest.
Paul Simon - The Boxer

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark What part of Innocent Until Proven Guilty are you missing? Jeesh! ___________________ A man sees what he wants to see, And disregards the rest. Paul Simon - The Boxer

I'm not missing that, I'm just saying a defendant's attorney claiming his client's innocence does not necessarily make said client innocent.

[frisco flyer]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer I'm not missing that, I'm just saying a defendant's attorney claiming his client's innocence does not necessarily make said client innocent.

Nor does an accusation make him guilty!

[AZFlyer85]

Holy crap stop bickering, unless it's about us landing a transfer!!!!!!

[frisco flyer]

Originally Posted by OCFlyer85 Holy crap stop bickering, unless it's about us landing a transfer!!!!!!

If you’d been sheltering-in-place as long as I have, you’d understand!

[podcast411]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer If you’d been sheltering-in-place as long as I have, you’d understand!

We have been sheltering in place since March 14th. 48 Days - and my Mother in Law moved in with us 2 weeks after we started the shelter in place - so she has been with us for for 34 days straight. I think we are all getting a little touchy.

[AZFlyer85]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer If you’d been sheltering-in-place as long as I have, you’d understand!

I'm in Orange County CA, so I've been trapped as long as you have!

[jack72]

As predicted the new transfer rule is not happening. The entire council still has to vote sometime, but they are loaded with non-Big5 people.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...waiver-process

[EliteEight]

Originally Posted by podcast411 We have been sheltering in place since March 14th. 48 Days - and my Mother in Law moved in with us 2 weeks after we started the shelter in place - so she has been with us for for 34 days straight. I think we are all getting a little touchy.

This has to have been the longest month of your life even discounting the shelter in place requirements...

[OSU Flyer]

Two days after entering the transfer portal, former USC guard Elijah Weaver has received plenty of interest from potential suitors.

According to a source close to Weaver, the sophomore guard has heard from Alabama, Arkansas, Dayton, DePaul, Marquette, UCF, USF and UTSA since entering the transfer portal on April 28.

https://247sports.com/college/basket...USC-146677076/

[Boroflyerfan01]

Via ESPN:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp

“ Sarr, a 7-foot France native, will become the top available transfer this spring. He earned third-team All-ACC honors last season after averaging 13.7 points and 9.0 rebounds for the Demon Deacons.”

Sarr is hoping to get a waiver from the NCAA to play immediately. Immediately after transferring was followed by Anthony Solomon and Andy Farrell. May be too big a fish for us as he’ll have the likes of Kentucky and other big name schools after him, but if BYU can get Matt Haarms over Kentucky why can’t we get Sarr!!
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[jack72]

Originally Posted by Boroflyerfan01 Via ESPN: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp “ Sarr, a 7-foot France native, will become the top available transfer this spring. He earned third-team All-ACC honors last season after averaging 13.7 points and 9.0 rebounds for the Demon Deacons.” Sarr is hoping to get a waiver from the NCAA to play immediately. Immediately after transferring was followed by Anthony Solomon and Andy Farrell. May be too big a fish for us as he’ll have the likes of Kentucky and other big name schools after him, but if BYU can get Matt Haarms over Kentucky why can’t we get Sarr!! Posted via Mobile Device

Sarr is a stud! Unfortunately he says he will not sit out a year, so he is probably off to Europe to play.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Boroflyerfan01 Via ESPN: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp “ Sarr, a 7-foot France native, will become the top available transfer this spring. He earned third-team All-ACC honors last season after averaging 13.7 points and 9.0 rebounds for the Demon Deacons.” Sarr is hoping to get a waiver from the NCAA to play immediately. Immediately after transferring was followed by Anthony Solomon and Andy Farrell. May be too big a fish for us as he’ll have the likes of Kentucky and other big name schools after him, but if BYU can get Matt Haarms over Kentucky why can’t we get Sarr!! Posted via Mobile Device

That's what I like about AG, I don't believe he thinks anybody is too big of a fish for us. I think if he thinks they can help us he recruits them.

[Medford]

Honestly, if I was a big man, and CAG wanted to recruit/develop me, I'd listen. He has a very strong history in working with big men.

[lhsgolf19]

Jake Weingarten:

“North Carolina transfer Jeremiah Francis has now heard from BYU, Dayton, New Mexico, New Mexico State, UTEP, Ohio U, Utah State, TCU and Oregon State, he told @Stockrisers.

High upside prospect averaged 3.3 points and two assists per game. Three years remaining.”
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[AZFlyer85]

We have a snowballs chance in Hell of landing a seven footer from the ACC

[soccergod]

Originally Posted by OCFlyer85 We have a snowballs chance in Hell of landing a seven footer from the ACC

I like the snowballs chance better in January than in May !!
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[OSU Flyer]

Ricardo Greer played in France for a long time. Maybe a connection there?

[jack72]

Wake Forest has 7 players in the transfer portal and only two scholarship players staying. This transfer stuff is getting out of control.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Medford Honestly, if I was a big man, and CAG wanted to recruit/develop me, I'd listen. He has a very strong history in working with big men.

That’s the frustrating thing for me. CAG has such a great and long history in big man development, from Obi these past 2 years to Noah and Horford 15 years ago. Why so few guys over 6’5” want to come here is puzzling to me. And yes, I know it’s the “A-10 Effect”, but still...
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[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by jack72 Wake Forest has 7 players in the transfer portal and only two scholarship players staying. This transfer stuff is getting out of control.

So are the predictions. Bracketology will have the answers though.

[shwag33]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 That’s the frustrating thing for me. CAG has such a great and long history in big man development, from Obi these past 2 years to Noah and Horford 15 years ago. Why so few guys over 6’5” want to come here is puzzling to me. And yes, I know it’s the “A-10 Effect”, but still... Posted via Mobile Device

The A10 effect is huge....a lot here don't want to admit it.

[Boroflyerfan01]

“According to a source close to Weaver, the sophomore guard has heard from Alabama, Arkansas, Dayton, DePaul, Marquette, UCF, USF and UTSA since entering the transfer portal on April 28.”

https://247sports.com/college/basket...mpression=true
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[UD62]

Originally Posted by shwag33 The A10 effect is huge....a lot here don't want to admit it.

I doubt there are a lot that see the A-10 as a plus as far as recruiting. Probably a lot that see it as a weakness. Also a lot that don't see the situation changing in the near future. Therefor a lot that see UD trying as best they can to succeed given the situation, and a lot that would jump to a better situation in a NY minute.

[frisco flyer]

I am not at all worried about this recruiting season, and I don’t read that much into the fact that we have not signed anyone so far.

Since becoming HC at UD, CAG has done a very good job on the recruiting front. Every program offers more scholarships than they have slots available, so it stands to reason that the majority of the players offered end up going elsewhere. This is true of every program, no matter if they are in the A10 or the ACC. Also, showing interest in a recruit isn’t the same as offering a scholarship. Most recruits exaggerate to create buzz and generate more interest from more schools. CAG is discriminating and won’t offer a player, no matter how talented, if he does not think said player is a good fit for the team and the culture. So when a player says that UD ‘showed interest’, it could be anywhere from an assistant coach calling the player’s AAU coach to ask a few questions, to promising an offer if the kid is interested to anything in between.

The team has solid options at every position, and if a player or two surprise on the upside, we are going to have another top 25 caliber team next year, regardless of who we add or don’t add. In today’s environment, the future beyond next season is an eternity away and worrying about that now is putting the cart before the horse.

CAG has done a very good job bringing the right players into the program, and I expect he will do that again this year and the year after that, and...

[Boroflyerfan01]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Corey Evans@coreyevans_10 12m Since his transfer earlier in the week, Towson guard Allen Betrand has heard from a list that includes Arkansas, Butler, Dayton, DePaul, Georgetown, Loyola Chicago, Illinois St, Minnesota, Rhode Island, Richmond, Vanderbilt and Xavier, a source tells @RivalsPortal 6'5" Guard out of Philadelphia, Sit 1 Play 2... Put up good numbers in the CAA 13.6 PPG (44.1 38.7 88.6) 2.7 RPG 1.4 APG

Final 6 is UD URI Richmond Minnesota DePaul and Butler.
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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by shwag33 The A10 effect is huge....a lot here don't want to admit it.

A lot here recognize our conference affiliation is out of our control.

_______________________
May I find the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference.
Reinhold Niebuhr

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by Boroflyerfan01 Final 6 is UD URI Richmond Minnesota DePaul and Butler. Posted via Mobile Device

DePaul landed a transfer from D2 at SG

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[lhsgolf19]

bucketgetter@betranddada
7m
I want to commit on my bday


Which means Saturday

[CvilleFlyer]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 bucketgetter@betranddada 7m I want to commit on my bday Which means Saturday

Allen Betrand made 78 out of 88 free throws for 88.6%! Good shooter from three point range also! Hope he chooses the Flyers!

[UD_PAC_2006]

Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer Allen Betrand made 78 out of 88 free throws for 88.6%! Good shooter from three point range also! Hope he chooses the Flyers!

I watched some youtube clips (there were not a lot out there). I liked his game a lot. Excellent finisher. Very strong. With a year out to work on his game, he could be a great player.

[lhsgolf19]

Jake@jakeweingarten
14m

Wake Forest's Ismael Massoud has entered the portal and has heard from San Diego State, Vanderbilt, Dayton, Georgia, Hofstra, Fairfield, amongst many others, a source told @Stockrisers

Wake Forest's staff has also been in touch and is heavily under consideration.

6'8" Freshman Forward

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Jake@jakeweingarten 14m Wake Forest's Ismael Massoud has entered the portal and has heard from San Diego State, Vanderbilt, Dayton, Georgia, Hofstra, Fairfield, amongst many others, a source told @Stockrisers Wake Forest's staff has also been in touch and is heavily under consideration. 6'8" Freshman Forward

Listed at 6’8” and 200. Academic All-ACC. Very good shooter. From East Harlem, NY. If he wants to leave Wake, he sounds like a really good fit for us as a Sit-1/Play-3 (or less) guy.
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[TXFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 Listed at 6’8” and 200. Academic All-ACC. Very good shooter. From East Harlem, NY. If he wants to leave Wake, he sounds like a really good fit for us as a Sit-1/Play-3 (or less) guy. Posted via Mobile Device

He may not have to sit due to the coaching change at Wake. If he leaves, he could be granted immediate eligibility wavier.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan He may not have to sit due to the coaching change at Wake. If he leaves, he could be granted immediate eligibility wavier.

Even better!
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[Rudy89]

Wake Forest kid staying at Wake Forest. Re-recruited by his new coach.

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/college/wfu/wake-notes-steve-forbes-moving-quickly-on-compiling-roster-and-coaching-staff/article_df5420ae-a07a-5e07-ae78-03ba45ad2384.html

[Boroflyerfan01]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Jake Weingarten: “North Carolina transfer Jeremiah Francis has now heard from BYU, Dayton, New Mexico, New Mexico State, UTEP, Ohio U, Utah State, TCU and Oregon State, he told @Stockrisers. High upside prospect averaged 3.3 points and two assists per game. Three years remaining.” Posted via Mobile Device

According to his Twitter he will commit this Friday at 6

Hopefully we get at least one commitment between Francis and Bertrand this weekend!
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[lhsgolf19]

For Francis, It’s either us or New Mexico per Stockrisers
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[jack72]

Allen Betrand. The Towson transfer recently cut his list to just six schools and included Butler, Richmond, Minnesota, Rhode Island, DePaul, and Dayton. He is currently listed as a sit-one, play-two transfer.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[OSU Flyer]

Hopefully he doesn't like green chile

[The Fly]

Bleacher Report story when Francis committed to UNC. Could be the answer at PG after Crutcher and Chatman depart. Had a whole bunch of P5 offers — Ohio State, Indiana, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, etc. Fingers crossed.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...o-state-others

[shapanud]

Originally Posted by The Fly Bleacher Report story when Francis committed to UNC. Could be the answer at PG after Crutcher and Chatman depart. Had a whole bunch of P5 offers — Ohio State, Indiana, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, etc. Fingers crossed. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...o-state-others

According to 247, UD was the only non-P5 in his final schools when he originally came out of high school:

Aug 15, 2017
Jeremiah Francis names top 10: Dayton, Florida State, Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio State, Purdue, TCU and West Virginia

[Don]

Didn't Jeremiah's grandfather have a short-lived career at UD many years ago?
My recollection is that he was only here for about one year.

[sheg]

Jeremiah Francis

+ YouTube Video

[Swampy Meadows]

Originally Posted by Don Didn't Jeremiah's grandfather have a short-lived career at UD many years ago? My recollection is that he was only here for about one year.

That’s correct. Freshman were not eligible, so he played on the freshman team and then one year of varsity ball.
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[flyer016]

Excited by the possibility of Francis joining the Flyers. Like his game and a high-caliber talent. Feels like a bit of a gamble though. He hasn't played a full basketball season since he was a sophomore in high school, and the problem has pretty consistently been knee issues.

Seems like a great kid with a lot of potential though. Hope he makes the right choice tomorrow.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer Hopefully he doesn't like green chile

Or, if he does, take him to Elsa’s or El Meson.
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[OSU Flyer]

Getting that redshirt year could be the best thing for him in terms of building up strength in his legs and getting ready for the grind of a season

[AZFlyer85]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer Getting that redshirt year could be the best thing for him in terms of building up strength in his legs and getting ready for the grind of a season

Yes, he can get healthy, learn AG's system, and also learn from the best pg in the A10 - Crutch

[shapanud]

Jablonski saying UD never offered Francis a scholarship. Weird situation.

https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...mUc1rLMI9G42L/

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by shapanud Jablonski saying UD never offered Francis a scholarship. Weird situation. https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...mUc1rLMI9G42L/

It'll never come out, but I'd love to hear the full story on this.

Did Dayton "not offer" after Francis informed them he was heading to Albuquerque, or was Dayton never all that interested for one reason or another?

Accepting Francis likely leaves Dayton out on bringing in a big name PG to run the show. I'd think three years of a former UNC recruit would scare off lots of talented point guards. (While I do recognize they currently operate a two-PG system, most kids want the role to themselves or at least some separation the point guards in the program.)

The search for Crutcher's (and Chatman's) successor continues.

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by shapanud Jablonski saying UD never offered Francis a scholarship. Weird situation. https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...mUc1rLMI9G42L/

UD didn't want to take the injury risk after looking into it

It shows me that NM was basically the only school to offer him after he went into the portal and he had to put a 2nd Team in the "Final 2" to make it look like he was deciding between teams, so why not pick the best team lol

[Medford]

I hear UD is holding a spot open for Ivan Renko.

[flyer016]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 UD didn't want to take the injury risk after looking into it

Not sure who your source is, but I'll buy that. If two years off and five months of prep with UNC's medical staff can't get your knees right, there's probably something chronic going on.

Hard to watch Dayton not bring another guy in, but it'd have been arduous to watch a guy not be able to get healthy for 3+ years.

[AZFlyer85]

In cag i trust

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Medford I hear UD is holding a spot open for Ivan Renko.

But Ivan is not a point guard.

[CvilleFlyer]

Originally Posted by flyer016 It'll never come out, but I'd love to hear the full story on this. Did Dayton "not offer" after Francis informed them he was heading to Albuquerque, or was Dayton never all that interested for one reason or another? Accepting Francis likely leaves Dayton out on bringing in a big name PG to run the show. I'd think three years of a former UNC recruit would scare off lots of talented point guards. (While I do recognize they currently operate a two-PG system, most kids want the role to themselves or at least some separation the point guards in the program.) The search for Crutcher's (and Chatman's) successor continues.

I think the answer to the PG question is that Malachi Smith is coming to replace Crutcher in 2021 and cag didn't want any conflicts with two PG's as Jeremiah Francis has gone on record saying he wants more playing time and play every day!

[AZFlyer85]

Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer I think the answer to the PG question is that Malachi Smith is coming to replace Crutcher in 2021 and cag didn't want any conflicts with two PG's as Jeremiah Francis has gone on record saying he wants more playing time and play every day!

this is what I'm hoping for

[OSU Flyer]

gotta trust the doctors on this one. He had microfracture surgery which I believe is one of the most serious knee surgeries

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer I think the answer to the PG question is that Malachi Smith is coming to replace Crutcher in 2021 and cag didn't want any conflicts with two PG's as Jeremiah Francis has gone on record saying he wants more playing time and play every day!

Could be someone else in the portal too

[NJFlyr71]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer gotta trust the doctors on this one. He had microfracture surgery which I believe is one of the most serious knee surgeries

Archie phoned in ..................... don't worry .... it's a deep bone bruise . nothing more!

[CvilleFlyer]

Interesting side note, maybe Jeremiah Francis did his homework and told the University of Dayton he was in fact heading to Albuquerque. I did some research on the Lobos from the Mountain West on ESPN's website and this past season they had 10 guards. Five of those were point guards and five were shooting guards. Their leading scorer at 14.9 was PG JaQuan Lyle who was a SR. Two PG's entered the 2020 portal which leaves one JR and one SO. By the time Francis sits a year the JR will have graduated which leaves only one PG, Clay Patterson who only averaged 0.7 ppg this his SO season!

So New Mexico can give him the keys for three years providing they don't recruit over him!

[Boroflyerfan01]

3 open scholarships and we haven’t landed anyone yet and appears we passed on Francis. You have to wonder if Grant knows something that we don’t. Maybe these allegations that are coming down are going to be serious and players can freely transfer without sitting out and a bunch of prove power 5 players are about to hit the market. It’s the off season and we are all stuck in quarantine so we might as well speculate to no end. Go Flyers!
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[maddog07]

Originally Posted by sheg Jeremiah Francis + YouTube Video

He sure looks great in the video, never misses! Wonder how he looked on the other 78% of his shots that aren’t on the tape and didn’t go in. I trust AG, but this kids stats and injury history make him look like a cross between Crosby and Detwon.
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[steverino015]

Originally Posted by Boroflyerfan01 3 open scholarships and we haven’t landed anyone yet and appears we passed on Francis. You have to wonder if Grant knows something that we don’t. Maybe these allegations that are coming down are going to be serious and players can freely transfer without sitting out and a bunch of prove power 5 players are about to hit the market. It’s the off season and we are all stuck in quarantine so we might as well speculate to no end. Go Flyers! Posted via Mobile Device

I absolutely guarantee you
Coach Grant knows something we don't..

I trust in Grant

Go Flyers!

[jack72]

I know one thing Grant knows for sure, he did not want a much injured point guard, who is nothing but potential, and was a so-so backup player for a very mundane UNC team.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Boroflyerfan01 3 open scholarships and we haven’t landed anyone yet and appears we passed on Francis. You have to wonder if Grant knows something that we don’t. Posted via Mobile Device

Push all your chips into the middle of the table on this one.

[lhsgolf19]

No surprise at all... Francis headed to New Mexico

[OSU Flyer]

Hopefully he gets healthy and everything works out for him.

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by Jeff Push all your chips into the middle of the table on this one.

Elijah Weaver come on down

[lhsgolf19]

https://stockrisers.com/2020/05/08/b...to-new-mexico/

Jeremiah confirms UD never offered

Where are all of those losers saying it was just because we were sour we came in second lol

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 https://stockrisers.com/2020/05/08/b...to-new-mexico/ Jeremiah confirms UD never offered Where are all of those losers saying it was just because we were sour we came in second lol

?

[jack72]

Wake Forest 7' Sarr to KY. So I guess he was not serious about choosing a good academic school. We will see if he was serious about his not having to sit a year.

[lhsgolf19]

Betrand announcing at 4

Doesn't look like it is going to be UD

[soccergod]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Betrand announcing at 4 Doesn't look like it is going to be UD

This song is getting old !
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[steverino015]

Originally Posted by soccergod This song is getting old ! Posted via Mobile Device

so what do we do?

we move on, if that is his decision..
we do not need or want
any transfer who is not all in

trust Coach Grant and
Go Flyers!

[The Fly]

Originally Posted by steverino015 so what do we do? we move on, if that is his decision.. we do not need or want any transfer who is not all in trust Coach Grant and Go Flyers!

I trust AG and believe we’ll be in good shape with the present roster. But it is a little disconcerting that we haven’t — as yet — capitalized on a 29-2 season with at least a recruit/transfer that can help us down the road. We have only two true PGs on the team, and they’re both gone after next year. We have Jordy and his questionable knees for one more year. I know the pandemic has made it harder for us — everybody, for that matter — to recruit, but we’ve already swung and missed on a few targets. This is about building for the future, and we need to spend a couple of those three scholarships soon to address REAL needs. I have confidence the coaching staff will get it done, but it would be nice to hit a homerun before too long.

[BeckysTXA]

With campus closed, I thought it would hurt our recruiting and I was not surprised AG commented on having to do everything by ZOOM in a recent DDN article. It’s a brave new world and when you take away the best card in our deck, it makes it tough.

The campus and especially the family of UD students, coaches, professors, Administration, staff, fans, etc has always been the best part of deciding to become a Flyer. The two programs I follow, volleyball and men’s basketball have story after story after story of recruits saying once they visited they knew it was the right place for them. There are decades of those exceperiences when athletes visit.

You add in that AG & Company are not slick-Willy salesmen (thank goodness), but they are competing against those type of coaches and right now transfers are buying the slick-tongued sale pitch. And to be honest, I’m not sure you can create the family-I belong here card when you’re limited to zoom, the telephone and text/email.

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by soccergod This song is getting old ! Posted via Mobile Device

Same thing as Francis... We didn't offer... In the words of Mr. Rodgers R-E-L-A-X lol

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Same thing as Francis... We didn't offer... In the words of Mr. Rodgers R-E-L-A-X lol

but I want to panic now?

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by The Fly I trust AG and believe we’ll be in good shape with the present roster. But it is a little disconcerting that we haven’t — as yet — capitalized on a 29-2 season with at least a recruit/transfer that can help us down the road. We have only two true PGs on the team, and they’re both gone after next year. We have Jordy and his questionable knees for one more year. I know the pandemic has made it harder for us — everybody, for that matter — to recruit, but we’ve already swung and missed on a few targets. This is about building for the future, and we need to spend a couple of those three scholarships soon to address REAL needs. I have confidence the coaching staff will get it done, but it would be nice to hit a homerun before too long.

truth be told,
we swing and miss each year, yes?

I would wager, he fully knows
what our team needs are more than
any one of us..

I trust Coach Grant

Go Flyers!

[Alberto Strasse]

are drawn to where they can be guaranteed to play right away. IF UD is not in a position to give a guarantee is that not a good thing? The coaches believe our roster can compete well against our schedule without addition. Team chemistry and role definitions remain in tact but for the Frosh and Redshirt.

[lhsgolf19]

Betrand headed to the dumpster fire of players in and out known as Rhode Island lol

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse are drawn to where they can be guaranteed to play right away. IF UD is not in a position to give a guarantee is that not a good thing? The coaches believe our roster can compete well against our schedule without addition. Team chemistry and role definitions remain in tact but for the Frosh and Redshirt.

I think there's truth to this

If Zimi or Sissoko weren't in some capacity ready (Kavanaugh style projects) to go I would think they would have been out there on the JUCO market and targeting some more marginal grad transfers just to get a body in there

[EliteEight]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 https://stockrisers.com/2020/05/08/b...to-new-mexico/ Jeremiah confirms UD never offered Where are all of those losers saying it was just because we were sour we came in second lol

This was in reference to all the silly Twitter trolls that are unfortunately part of our fanbase. On Twitter there are some seriously horrific takes.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Betrand headed to the dumpster fire of players in and out known as Rhode Island lol

This should fuel the fire for the "we haven't done anything yet" folks.

Sometimes the best moves are the ones NOT made.

Also, the only thing RI has done has won the offseason. Ask Browns fans how important this is.

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by Jeff This should fuel the fire for the "we haven't done anything yet" folks. Sometimes the best moves are the ones NOT made. Also, the only thing RI has done has won the offseason. Ask Browns fans how important this is.

I'm not sure I'd say they've won the offseason. Yeah, they've brought guys in but they lost talent. I'm not sure it's a clear net in their direction

[flyer016]

I like the idea that Grant doesn't just chase talent at whatever cost. That's not how you build a stable program. (URI is going to be a circus going forward, and David Cox won't be there long.) Clearly, Grant isn't interested in putting up with headaches and malcontents (see, Jordan Pierce and Xeyrius Williams), and ultimately building a program around culture and buy-in will serve us well.

However, anybody suggesting this has been a successful offseason has got it wrong as well. They've courted a number of players to no avail, and that's fine. Nobody expects them to bat 1.000.

But the program currently has three open scholarships and four graduating seniors. They need to start adding players. They need both young guys and experienced players, because there's going to be a lot of playing time available after the 2021 season. Now is the ideal time to be adding players, especially given the historic season that just ended.

This is all premature though. There's still time to make moves, but this has hardly been two months of cashing in on an ultra successful season.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[OSU Flyer]

Pure speculation on my part.

We know culture and chemistry is big with Coach Grant. I wonder how much it hurts not being bring guys on campus and get them around the team. There's probably only so much you can get from Zoom or the phone

It sounds like from what I've seen the sit out rule for transfers is probably eliminated after next season. You don't need to get the sit out guy now for the 21-22 when it looks like you can get them next spring. There's 3 true freshman and 2 redshirt freshman coming in. Play a season, see where those guys are at after a season of game action and then asses what the needs are on the transfer market next spring based off what they do

[BeckysTXA]

After reading the URI forum when Jacob and others entered the portal, I came away with the impression David Cox is firmly on the hot seat and if it doesn’t happen in 20-21 he’s toast. So who knows what he is saying to transfers to close deals.

AG got this program to an amazing level in his third year with quality young men that love playing for him and for each other. I support everything he’s doing even during the last two months when we all hoped to see some early returns. But in the end I believe AG & Co. will land the players they know will keep this program moving forward. No way the Grant era is going to be a one-hit wonder. They are too good at evaluating skills that they can develop within the offensive and defensive systems. When you think about it, Ibi was the only player on last year’s roster I would say had high elite prep talent coming out of high school. Everyone else, including the 5 starters, had athletic skill that were developed under Grant & Co.

Sure I’d like to see us land more elite-prep talent...but if we go the developing skills route, I’m good because this staff is very good at getting players to maximize their potential and we have some great players coming this year as well as a couple that red shirted last year that fit that MO. And, I’m confident we are going to pick up another two for this year.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by flyer016 I like the idea that Grant doesn't just chase talent at whatever cost. That's not how you build a stable program. (URI is going to be a circus going forward, and David Cox won't be there long.) Clearly, Grant isn't interested in putting up with headaches and malcontents (see, Jordan Pierce and Xeyrius Williams), and ultimately building a program around culture and buy-in will serve us well. However, anybody suggesting this has been a successful offseason has got it wrong as well. They've courted a number of players to no avail, and that's fine. Nobody expects them to bat 1.000. But the program currently has three open scholarships and four graduating seniors. They need to start adding players. They need both young guys and experienced players, because there's going to be a lot of playing time available after the 2021 season. Now is the ideal time to be adding players, especially given the historic season that just ended. This is all premature though. There's still time to make moves, but this has hardly been two months of cashing in on an ultra successful season.

I agree with this. The COVID situation isn't great but everyone else is dealing with it too. The iron is never going to be hotter than it is now for the spring and the fall signing period for the 2021

Jalen, Ibi and Rodney are gone after this year. Those 7 scholarships plus the 4 guys that came in this season are the future of the program as cliche as it sounds.

There's not a single proven player on the roster outside of the senior guards. How those 7 scholarships are handled are gonna determine if the train keeps on rolling or it's a 2nd rebuild

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[UD62]

If nothing else happens this year we have 7 open schollarships for the following year. AG is going to earn his money handling that. Will be interesting going forward. Hard for us to get a feel for what will, happen. AG plays it very close to the vest. While frustrating at times I like the way he operates.

[Swampy Meadows]

I think back to the story of a recruit AG was wooing when he was at VCU. The kid got an offer from Louisville and AG told the player that he should go to UL. One of his assistants was livid and AG told him:

“We will get the recruits that we are supposed to get.”
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[CvilleFlyer]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer I agree with this. The COVID situation isn't great but everyone else is dealing with it too. The iron is never going to be hotter than it is now for the spring and the fall signing period for the 2021 Jalen, Ibi and Rodney are gone after this year. Those 7 scholarships plus the 4 guys that came in this season are the future of the program as cliche as it sounds. There's not a single proven player on the roster outside of the senior guards. How those 7 scholarships are handled are gonna determine if the train keeps on rolling or it's a 2nd rebuild

We would have five sophomores (with Tshimanga being a RS) and no juniors with Cohill being the lone senior! We don't know what the talent level will be once the above players hit the floor running next season and get used to the nuances of game conditions.

I have nothing but praise for what Anthony Grant and his staff have done so far but, yikes, it is stretching my faith a bit knowing that he has to bring in 7 players that even come close to the talent level we watched during this past 2019-2020 season. I know it has been 53 years since we were rated as high as we were this past season but I feel we should set our target for AP top 25 every season. Obi Toppin's don,t come along very often. CAG needs to even out the classes so every year doesn't become a complete rebuild! I believe the classes will even out by the 2021-2022 season with graduate transfers now more and more in the mix.

Some on here are nervous about two months of inactivity especially since there was a love affair with the media and fans with the Flyers this past season. That being said, I am not worried about CAG and his staff's ability to bring in players who are coachable and willing to fullfill their roles. This builds trust in each other to pass up a difficult shot and pass the ball to a teammate who has an better one! Anthony Grant is like a cheshire cat. He lets other coaches gamble on those 4 and 5 star players who are looking for their own notoriety in the local newspaper instead concentrating on 3 stars and some 4 stars who he believes he can mold as a family.

[116 Chambers]

I want to see a “big name” transfer choose UD too, but don’t sacrifice culture and team-first play for players just because they are the hot name right now. And that’s exactly what AG and staff are doing by doing their homework on a lot of these guys and then Not Offering. Very telling. AG will get a transfer he wants or none at all.

Zimi & Moulaye gained experience being with the team this year, which is beneficial, so they won’t be acting like true Freshman next year.

Also, I am putting this kindly when I ask can we not criticize the Coach of the Year just over a month after he won?!

[ud2]

Who was the last graduate transfer that UD had? For whatever reason, graduate transfers just might not be a thing UD does. I don't agree with never bringing in a graduate transfer, but I can't think of even one that UD has had recently.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Ryan Bass is the only graduate transfer i can remember.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan Ryan Bass is the only graduate transfer i can remember.

But even Bass had to sit out a year before playing at Dayton.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...an-bass-1.html

Have we ever had a guy transfer here and start playing here without having to sit out a year?

When I think of a graduate transfer, I think of 2 scenarios typically:

1. The player redshirts at school #1, plays there for 3 years, graduates, and then transfers to school #2.

2. Player plays at school #1 for a year or 2, transfers to school #2 and sits a year, plays 1 or 2 years at school #2, graduates, and then transfers to school #3.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Ryan Bass graduated from Oakland University before he came to Dayton He was not on the 13-14 roster. We put all of our red shirts on the roster. He did not play at Oakland his senior year because of his concussions. He is on our roster one year 14-15.

[John C.]

I would love to get in the head of a kid that choses RI over UD. What could be the motivation in that case? Just looking at the coaches--National coach of the year vs. a guy that could get fired before you see the floor. Including last year we have been to the tournament 5 of the last 7 years. We sell out every game. There is virtually no one in front of you when you are eligible. What could he have been thinking?