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What do we expect his attorney to say? Not sure that makes him innocent.
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What part of Innocent Until Proven Guilty are you missing?
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What part of Innocent Until Proven Guilty are you missing?
Jeesh!
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I'm not missing that, I'm just saying a defendant's attorney claiming his client's innocence does not necessarily make said client innocent.
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I'm not missing that, I'm just saying a defendant's attorney claiming his client's innocence does not necessarily make said client innocent.
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Holy crap stop bickering, unless it's about us landing a transfer!!!!!!
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Holy crap stop bickering, unless it's about us landing a transfer!!!!!!
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If you’d been sheltering-in-place as long as I have, you’d understand!
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We have been sheltering in place since March 14th. 48 Days - and my Mother in Law moved in with us 2 weeks after we started the shelter in place - so she has been with us for for 34 days straight. I think we are all getting a little touchy.
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I'm in Orange County CA, so I've been trapped as long as you have!
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As predicted the new transfer rule is not happening. The entire council still has to vote sometime, but they are loaded with non-Big5 people.
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We have been sheltering in place since March 14th. 48 Days - and my Mother in Law moved in with us 2 weeks after we started the shelter in place - so she has been with us for for 34 days straight. I think we are all getting a little touchy.
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Two days after entering the transfer portal, former USC guard Elijah Weaver has received plenty of interest from potential suitors.
According to a source close to Weaver, the sophomore guard has heard from Alabama, Arkansas, Dayton, DePaul, Marquette, UCF, USF and UTSA since entering the transfer portal on April 28.
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“ Sarr, a 7-foot France native, will become the top available transfer this spring. He earned third-team All-ACC honors last season after averaging 13.7 points and 9.0 rebounds for the Demon Deacons.”
Sarr is hoping to get a waiver from the NCAA to play immediately. Immediately after transferring was followed by Anthony Solomon and Andy Farrell. May be too big a fish for us as he’ll have the likes of Kentucky and other big name schools after him, but if BYU can get Matt Haarms over Kentucky why can’t we get Sarr!!
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“ Sarr, a 7-foot France native, will become the top available transfer this spring. He earned third-team All-ACC honors last season after averaging 13.7 points and 9.0 rebounds for the Demon Deacons.”
Sarr is hoping to get a waiver from the NCAA to play immediately. Immediately after transferring was followed by Anthony Solomon and Andy Farrell. May be too big a fish for us as he’ll have the likes of Kentucky and other big name schools after him, but if BYU can get Matt Haarms over Kentucky why can’t we get Sarr!!
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Originally Posted by Boroflyerfan01
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“ Sarr, a 7-foot France native, will become the top available transfer this spring. He earned third-team All-ACC honors last season after averaging 13.7 points and 9.0 rebounds for the Demon Deacons.”
Sarr is hoping to get a waiver from the NCAA to play immediately. Immediately after transferring was followed by Anthony Solomon and Andy Farrell. May be too big a fish for us as he’ll have the likes of Kentucky and other big name schools after him, but if BYU can get Matt Haarms over Kentucky why can’t we get Sarr!!
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That's what I like about AG, I don't believe he thinks anybody is too big of a fish for us. I think if he thinks they can help us he recruits them.
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Honestly, if I was a big man, and CAG wanted to recruit/develop me, I'd listen. He has a very strong history in working with big men.
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We have a snowballs chance in Hell of landing a seven footer from the ACC
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I like the snowballs chance better in January than in May !!
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Ricardo Greer played in France for a long time. Maybe a connection there?
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Wake Forest has 7 players in the transfer portal and only two scholarship players staying. This transfer stuff is getting out of control.
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Honestly, if I was a big man, and CAG wanted to recruit/develop me, I'd listen. He has a very strong history in working with big men.
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That’s the frustrating thing for me. CAG has such a great and long history in big man development, from Obi these past 2 years to Noah and Horford 15 years ago. Why so few guys over 6’5” want to come here is puzzling to me. And yes, I know it’s the “A-10 Effect”, but still...
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Wake Forest has 7 players in the transfer portal and only two scholarship players staying. This transfer stuff is getting out of control.
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That’s the frustrating thing for me. CAG has such a great and long history in big man development, from Obi these past 2 years to Noah and Horford 15 years ago. Why so few guys over 6’5” want to come here is puzzling to me. And yes, I know it’s the “A-10 Effect”, but still...
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The A10 effect is huge....a lot here don't want to admit it.
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“According to a source close to Weaver, the sophomore guard has heard from Alabama, Arkansas, Dayton, DePaul, Marquette, UCF, USF and UTSA since entering the transfer portal on April 28.”
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The A10 effect is huge....a lot here don't want to admit it.
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I doubt there are a lot that see the A-10 as a plus as far as recruiting. Probably a lot that see it as a weakness. Also a lot that don't see the situation changing in the near future. Therefor a lot that see UD trying as best they can to succeed given the situation, and a lot that would jump to a better situation in a NY minute.
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I am not at all worried about this recruiting season, and I don’t read that much into the fact that we have not signed anyone so far.
Since becoming HC at UD, CAG has done a very good job on the recruiting front. Every program offers more scholarships than they have slots available, so it stands to reason that the majority of the players offered end up going elsewhere. This is true of every program, no matter if they are in the A10 or the ACC. Also, showing interest in a recruit isn’t the same as offering a scholarship. Most recruits exaggerate to create buzz and generate more interest from more schools. CAG is discriminating and won’t offer a player, no matter how talented, if he does not think said player is a good fit for the team and the culture. So when a player says that UD ‘showed interest’, it could be anywhere from an assistant coach calling the player’s AAU coach to ask a few questions, to promising an offer if the kid is interested to anything in between.
The team has solid options at every position, and if a player or two surprise on the upside, we are going to have another top 25 caliber team next year, regardless of who we add or don’t add. In today’s environment, the future beyond next season is an eternity away and worrying about that now is putting the cart before the horse.
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Final 6 is UD URI Richmond Minnesota DePaul and Butler.
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Allen Betrand made 78 out of 88 free throws for 88.6%! Good shooter from three point range also! Hope he chooses the Flyers!
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Allen Betrand made 78 out of 88 free throws for 88.6%! Good shooter from three point range also! Hope he chooses the Flyers!
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I watched some youtube clips (there were not a lot out there). I liked his game a lot. Excellent finisher. Very strong. With a year out to work on his game, he could be a great player.
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Wake Forest's Ismael Massoud has entered the portal and has heard from San Diego State, Vanderbilt, Dayton, Georgia, Hofstra, Fairfield, amongst many others, a source told @Stockrisers
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Wake Forest's Ismael Massoud has entered the portal and has heard from San Diego State, Vanderbilt, Dayton, Georgia, Hofstra, Fairfield, amongst many others, a source told @Stockrisers
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Listed at 6’8” and 200. Academic All-ACC. Very good shooter. From East Harlem, NY. If he wants to leave Wake, he sounds like a really good fit for us as a Sit-1/Play-3 (or less) guy.
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He may not have to sit due to the coaching change at Wake. If he leaves, he could be granted immediate eligibility wavier.
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Wake Forest kid staying at Wake Forest. Re-recruited by his new coach.
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High upside prospect averaged 3.3 points and two assists per game. Three years remaining.”
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Allen Betrand. The Towson transfer recently cut his list to just six schools and included Butler, Richmond, Minnesota, Rhode Island, DePaul, and Dayton. He is currently listed as a sit-one, play-two transfer.
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Bleacher Report story when Francis committed to UNC. Could be the answer at PG after Crutcher and Chatman depart. Had a whole bunch of P5 offers — Ohio State, Indiana, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, etc. Fingers crossed.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...o-state-others
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Bleacher Report story when Francis committed to UNC. Could be the answer at PG after Crutcher and Chatman depart. Had a whole bunch of P5 offers — Ohio State, Indiana, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, etc. Fingers crossed.
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According to 247, UD was the only non-P5 in his final schools when he originally came out of high school:
Aug 15, 2017
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Didn't Jeremiah's grandfather have a short-lived career at UD many years ago?
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Didn't Jeremiah's grandfather have a short-lived career at UD many years ago?
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That’s correct. Freshman were not eligible, so he played on the freshman team and then one year of varsity ball.
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Excited by the possibility of Francis joining the Flyers. Like his game and a high-caliber talent. Feels like a bit of a gamble though. He hasn't played a full basketball season since he was a sophomore in high school, and the problem has pretty consistently been knee issues.
Seems like a great kid with a lot of potential though. Hope he makes the right choice tomorrow.
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Getting that redshirt year could be the best thing for him in terms of building up strength in his legs and getting ready for the grind of a season
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Yes, he can get healthy, learn AG's system, and also learn from the best pg in the A10 - Crutch
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Jablonski saying UD never offered Francis a scholarship. Weird situation.
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It'll never come out, but I'd love to hear the full story on this.
Did Dayton "not offer" after Francis informed them he was heading to Albuquerque, or was Dayton never all that interested for one reason or another?
Accepting Francis likely leaves Dayton out on bringing in a big name PG to run the show. I'd think three years of a former UNC recruit would scare off lots of talented point guards. (While I do recognize they currently operate a two-PG system, most kids want the role to themselves or at least some separation the point guards in the program.)
The search for Crutcher's (and Chatman's) successor continues.
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UD didn't want to take the injury risk after looking into it
It shows me that NM was basically the only school to offer him after he went into the portal and he had to put a 2nd Team in the "Final 2" to make it look like he was deciding between teams, so why not pick the best team lol
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I hear UD is holding a spot open for Ivan Renko.
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Not sure who your source is, but I'll buy that. If two years off and five months of prep with UNC's medical staff can't get your knees right, there's probably something chronic going on.
Hard to watch Dayton not bring another guy in, but it'd have been arduous to watch a guy not be able to get healthy for 3+ years.
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I hear UD is holding a spot open for Ivan Renko.
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But Ivan is not a point guard.
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Originally Posted by flyer016
It'll never come out, but I'd love to hear the full story on this.
Did Dayton "not offer" after Francis informed them he was heading to Albuquerque, or was Dayton never all that interested for one reason or another?
Accepting Francis likely leaves Dayton out on bringing in a big name PG to run the show. I'd think three years of a former UNC recruit would scare off lots of talented point guards. (While I do recognize they currently operate a two-PG system, most kids want the role to themselves or at least some separation the point guards in the program.)
The search for Crutcher's (and Chatman's) successor continues.
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I think the answer to the PG question is that Malachi Smith is coming to replace Crutcher in 2021 and cag didn't want any conflicts with two PG's as Jeremiah Francis has gone on record saying he wants more playing time and play every day!
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Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer
I think the answer to the PG question is that Malachi Smith is coming to replace Crutcher in 2021 and cag didn't want any conflicts with two PG's as Jeremiah Francis has gone on record saying he wants more playing time and play every day!
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gotta trust the doctors on this one. He had microfracture surgery which I believe is one of the most serious knee surgeries
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Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer
I think the answer to the PG question is that Malachi Smith is coming to replace Crutcher in 2021 and cag didn't want any conflicts with two PG's as Jeremiah Francis has gone on record saying he wants more playing time and play every day!
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Could be someone else in the portal too
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gotta trust the doctors on this one. He had microfracture surgery which I believe is one of the most serious knee surgeries
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Interesting side note, maybe Jeremiah Francis did his homework and told the University of Dayton he was in fact heading to Albuquerque. I did some research on the Lobos from the Mountain West on ESPN's website and this past season they had 10 guards. Five of those were point guards and five were shooting guards. Their leading scorer at 14.9 was PG JaQuan Lyle who was a SR. Two PG's entered the 2020 portal which leaves one JR and one SO. By the time Francis sits a year the JR will have graduated which leaves only one PG, Clay Patterson who only averaged 0.7 ppg this his SO season!
So New Mexico can give him the keys for three years providing they don't recruit over him!
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3 open scholarships and we haven’t landed anyone yet and appears we passed on Francis. You have to wonder if Grant knows something that we don’t. Maybe these allegations that are coming down are going to be serious and players can freely transfer without sitting out and a bunch of prove power 5 players are about to hit the market. It’s the off season and we are all stuck in quarantine so we might as well speculate to no end. Go Flyers!
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He sure looks great in the video, never misses! Wonder how he looked on the other 78% of his shots that aren’t on the tape and didn’t go in. I trust AG, but this kids stats and injury history make him look like a cross between Crosby and Detwon.
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3 open scholarships and we haven’t landed anyone yet and appears we passed on Francis. You have to wonder if Grant knows something that we don’t. Maybe these allegations that are coming down are going to be serious and players can freely transfer without sitting out and a bunch of prove power 5 players are about to hit the market. It’s the off season and we are all stuck in quarantine so we might as well speculate to no end. Go Flyers!
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I know one thing Grant knows for sure, he did not want a much injured point guard, who is nothing but potential, and was a so-so backup player for a very mundane UNC team.
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3 open scholarships and we haven’t landed anyone yet and appears we passed on Francis. You have to wonder if Grant knows something that we don’t.
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Jeremiah confirms UD never offered
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Wake Forest 7' Sarr to KY. So I guess he was not serious about choosing a good academic school. We will see if he was serious about his not having to sit a year.
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so what do we do?
we move on, if that is his decision..
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so what do we do?
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I trust AG and believe we’ll be in good shape with the present roster. But it is a little disconcerting that we haven’t — as yet — capitalized on a 29-2 season with at least a recruit/transfer that can help us down the road. We have only two true PGs on the team, and they’re both gone after next year. We have Jordy and his questionable knees for one more year. I know the pandemic has made it harder for us — everybody, for that matter — to recruit, but we’ve already swung and missed on a few targets. This is about building for the future, and we need to spend a couple of those three scholarships soon to address REAL needs. I have confidence the coaching staff will get it done, but it would be nice to hit a homerun before too long.
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With campus closed, I thought it would hurt our recruiting and I was not surprised AG commented on having to do everything by ZOOM in a recent DDN article. It’s a brave new world and when you take away the best card in our deck, it makes it tough.
The campus and especially the family of UD students, coaches, professors, Administration, staff, fans, etc has always been the best part of deciding to become a Flyer. The two programs I follow, volleyball and men’s basketball have story after story after story of recruits saying once they visited they knew it was the right place for them. There are decades of those exceperiences when athletes visit.
You add in that AG & Company are not slick-Willy salesmen (thank goodness), but they are competing against those type of coaches and right now transfers are buying the slick-tongued sale pitch. And to be honest, I’m not sure you can create the family-I belong here card when you’re limited to zoom, the telephone and text/email.
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Same thing as Francis... We didn't offer... In the words of Mr. Rodgers R-E-L-A-X lol
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Same thing as Francis... We didn't offer... In the words of Mr. Rodgers R-E-L-A-X lol
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I trust AG and believe we’ll be in good shape with the present roster. But it is a little disconcerting that we haven’t — as yet — capitalized on a 29-2 season with at least a recruit/transfer that can help us down the road. We have only two true PGs on the team, and they’re both gone after next year. We have Jordy and his questionable knees for one more year. I know the pandemic has made it harder for us — everybody, for that matter — to recruit, but we’ve already swung and missed on a few targets. This is about building for the future, and we need to spend a couple of those three scholarships soon to address REAL needs. I have confidence the coaching staff will get it done, but it would be nice to hit a homerun before too long.
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truth be told,
we swing and miss each year, yes?
I would wager, he fully knows
what our team needs are more than
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Grad Transfers
are drawn to where they can be guaranteed to play right away. IF UD is not in a position to give a guarantee is that not a good thing? The coaches believe our roster can compete well against our schedule without addition. Team chemistry and role definitions remain in tact but for the Frosh and Redshirt.
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are drawn to where they can be guaranteed to play right away. IF UD is not in a position to give a guarantee is that not a good thing? The coaches believe our roster can compete well against our schedule without addition. Team chemistry and role definitions remain in tact but for the Frosh and Redshirt.
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I think there's truth to this
If Zimi or Sissoko weren't in some capacity ready (Kavanaugh style projects) to go I would think they would have been out there on the JUCO market and targeting some more marginal grad transfers just to get a body in there
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This was in reference to all the silly Twitter trolls that are unfortunately part of our fanbase. On Twitter there are some seriously horrific takes.
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This should fuel the fire for the "we haven't done anything yet" folks.
Sometimes the best moves are the ones NOT made.
Also, the only thing RI has done has won the offseason. Ask Browns fans how important this is.
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This should fuel the fire for the "we haven't done anything yet" folks.
Sometimes the best moves are the ones NOT made.
Also, the only thing RI has done has won the offseason. Ask Browns fans how important this is.
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I'm not sure I'd say they've won the offseason. Yeah, they've brought guys in but they lost talent. I'm not sure it's a clear net in their direction
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I like the idea that Grant doesn't just chase talent at whatever cost. That's not how you build a stable program. ( URI is going to be a circus going forward, and David Cox won't be there long.) Clearly, Grant isn't interested in putting up with headaches and malcontents (see, Jordan Pierce and Xeyrius Williams), and ultimately building a program around culture and buy-in will serve us well.
However, anybody suggesting this has been a successful offseason has got it wrong as well. They've courted a number of players to no avail, and that's fine. Nobody expects them to bat 1.000.
But the program currently has three open scholarships and four graduating seniors. They need to start adding players. They need both young guys and experienced players, because there's going to be a lot of playing time available after the 2021 season. Now is the ideal time to be adding players, especially given the historic season that just ended.
This is all premature though. There's still time to make moves, but this has hardly been two months of cashing in on an ultra successful season.
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Pure speculation on my part.
We know culture and chemistry is big with Coach Grant. I wonder how much it hurts not being bring guys on campus and get them around the team. There's probably only so much you can get from Zoom or the phone
It sounds like from what I've seen the sit out rule for transfers is probably eliminated after next season. You don't need to get the sit out guy now for the 21-22 when it looks like you can get them next spring. There's 3 true freshman and 2 redshirt freshman coming in. Play a season, see where those guys are at after a season of game action and then asses what the needs are on the transfer market next spring based off what they do
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After reading the URI forum when Jacob and others entered the portal, I came away with the impression David Cox is firmly on the hot seat and if it doesn’t happen in 20-21 he’s toast. So who knows what he is saying to transfers to close deals.
AG got this program to an amazing level in his third year with quality young men that love playing for him and for each other. I support everything he’s doing even during the last two months when we all hoped to see some early returns. But in the end I believe AG & Co. will land the players they know will keep this program moving forward. No way the Grant era is going to be a one-hit wonder. They are too good at evaluating skills that they can develop within the offensive and defensive systems. When you think about it, Ibi was the only player on last year’s roster I would say had high elite prep talent coming out of high school. Everyone else, including the 5 starters, had athletic skill that were developed under Grant & Co.
Sure I’d like to see us land more elite-prep talent...but if we go the developing skills route, I’m good because this staff is very good at getting players to maximize their potential and we have some great players coming this year as well as a couple that red shirted last year that fit that MO. And, I’m confident we are going to pick up another two for this year.
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Originally Posted by flyer016
I like the idea that Grant doesn't just chase talent at whatever cost. That's not how you build a stable program. (URI is going to be a circus going forward, and David Cox won't be there long.) Clearly, Grant isn't interested in putting up with headaches and malcontents (see, Jordan Pierce and Xeyrius Williams), and ultimately building a program around culture and buy-in will serve us well.
However, anybody suggesting this has been a successful offseason has got it wrong as well. They've courted a number of players to no avail, and that's fine. Nobody expects them to bat 1.000.
But the program currently has three open scholarships and four graduating seniors. They need to start adding players. They need both young guys and experienced players, because there's going to be a lot of playing time available after the 2021 season. Now is the ideal time to be adding players, especially given the historic season that just ended.
This is all premature though. There's still time to make moves, but this has hardly been two months of cashing in on an ultra successful season.
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I agree with this. The COVID situation isn't great but everyone else is dealing with it too. The iron is never going to be hotter than it is now for the spring and the fall signing period for the 2021
Jalen, Ibi and Rodney are gone after this year. Those 7 scholarships plus the 4 guys that came in this season are the future of the program as cliche as it sounds.
There's not a single proven player on the roster outside of the senior guards. How those 7 scholarships are handled are gonna determine if the train keeps on rolling or it's a 2nd rebuild
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If nothing else happens this year we have 7 open schollarships for the following year. AG is going to earn his money handling that. Will be interesting going forward. Hard for us to get a feel for what will, happen. AG plays it very close to the vest. While frustrating at times I like the way he operates.
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I think back to the story of a recruit AG was wooing when he was at VCU. The kid got an offer from Louisville and AG told the player that he should go to UL. One of his assistants was livid and AG told him:
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05-10-2020, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer
I agree with this. The COVID situation isn't great but everyone else is dealing with it too. The iron is never going to be hotter than it is now for the spring and the fall signing period for the 2021
Jalen, Ibi and Rodney are gone after this year. Those 7 scholarships plus the 4 guys that came in this season are the future of the program as cliche as it sounds.
There's not a single proven player on the roster outside of the senior guards. How those 7 scholarships are handled are gonna determine if the train keeps on rolling or it's a 2nd rebuild
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We would have five sophomores (with Tshimanga being a RS) and no juniors with Cohill being the lone senior! We don't know what the talent level will be once the above players hit the floor running next season and get used to the nuances of game conditions.
I have nothing but praise for what Anthony Grant and his staff have done so far but, yikes, it is stretching my faith a bit knowing that he has to bring in 7 players that even come close to the talent level we watched during this past 2019-2020 season. I know it has been 53 years since we were rated as high as we were this past season but I feel we should set our target for AP top 25 every season. Obi Toppin's don,t come along very often. CAG needs to even out the classes so every year doesn't become a complete rebuild! I believe the classes will even out by the 2021-2022 season with graduate transfers now more and more in the mix.
Some on here are nervous about two months of inactivity especially since there was a love affair with the media and fans with the Flyers this past season. That being said, I am not worried about CAG and his staff's ability to bring in players who are coachable and willing to fullfill their roles. This builds trust in each other to pass up a difficult shot and pass the ball to a teammate who has an better one! Anthony Grant is like a cheshire cat. He lets other coaches gamble on those 4 and 5 star players who are looking for their own notoriety in the local newspaper instead concentrating on 3 stars and some 4 stars who he believes he can mold as a family.
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05-10-2020, 02:37 PM
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I want to see a “big name” transfer choose UD too, but don’t sacrifice culture and team-first play for players just because they are the hot name right now. And that’s exactly what AG and staff are doing by doing their homework on a lot of these guys and then Not Offering. Very telling. AG will get a transfer he wants or none at all.
Zimi & Moulaye gained experience being with the team this year, which is beneficial, so they won’t be acting like true Freshman next year.
Also, I am putting this kindly when I ask can we not criticize the Coach of the Year just over a month after he won?!
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05-10-2020, 03:48 PM
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Who was the last graduate transfer that UD had? For whatever reason, graduate transfers just might not be a thing UD does. I don't agree with never bringing in a graduate transfer, but I can't think of even one that UD has had recently.
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05-10-2020, 03:56 PM
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Ryan Bass is the only graduate transfer i can remember.
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05-10-2020, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan
Ryan Bass is the only graduate transfer i can remember.
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But even Bass had to sit out a year before playing at Dayton.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...an-bass-1.html
Have we ever had a guy transfer here and start playing here without having to sit out a year?
When I think of a graduate transfer, I think of 2 scenarios typically:
1. The player redshirts at school #1, plays there for 3 years, graduates, and then transfers to school #2.
2. Player plays at school #1 for a year or 2, transfers to school #2 and sits a year, plays 1 or 2 years at school #2, graduates, and then transfers to school #3.
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05-10-2020, 04:21 PM
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Ryan Bass graduated from Oakland University before he came to Dayton He was not on the 13-14 roster. We put all of our red shirts on the roster. He did not play at Oakland his senior year because of his concussions. He is on our roster one year 14-15.
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05-10-2020, 05:02 PM
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I would love to get in the head of a kid that choses RI over UD. What could be the motivation in that case? Just looking at the coaches--National coach of the year vs. a guy that could get fired before you see the floor. Including last year we have been to the tournament 5 of the last 7 years. We sell out every game. There is virtually no one in front of you when you are eligible. What could he have been thinking?
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