Top 50 RPI wins

[UD90]

Dayton has more top 50 RPI wins than anyone in the Top 10 of either of the popularity polls. 6-1.
Oregon is the only other team with 6 Top 50 wins.

[CE80]

May lose one. #44 William & Mary lost today.

[UD90]

Should be temporary. Sitting at 51 in Live-RPI.com, but a few teams above them (including SBU play this evening).

Lose W&M, replace with SBU next week. Still 5 is nice. Only 4 of the top 10 have 5 top 50 wins.

I like how the scheduling gods helped us this year verses a few years back. SBU plays at 6 tonight in Pittsburgh, gets on a plane and then a bus for the long trip to Olean late tonight. They have Monday and Tuesday (game day) to prep for us.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[UD90]

Currently at 4-1, but we have 4 more teams lurking at 51-54.
Chattanooga, Davidson, William and Mary, and Vanderbilt.

[SC_Flyer]

Wow, we are 4-1 against the Top 50-54:

50 Alabama
51 Chattanooga
52 Davidson
53 William & Mary
54 Vanderbilt

Why can't that be its own category?

[TA111]

The selection committee looks at your average RPI win as a critical element. Thus while having top 50 wins is important, it's not like they cut off good wins at 50. The Flyers avg win is around 109, which is one of the best in the country. We have a lot of good wins.

[UD90]

The committee also made it clear bad losses don't have the impact they used to have. They are focused on Top 50 wins. See UCLA last year. UCLA had a horrendous resume (other than 4-5 Top 50 wins if I recall correctly).

I like where we are. We need to get through the next 5 game gauntlet (loss avoidance), Hold serve at home and win a couple in the A10 tourney for a 4-7 seed.

[redbengal]

Originally Posted by UD90 The committee also made it clear bad losses don't have the impact they used to have. They are focused on Top 50 wins. See UCLA last year. UCLA had a horrendous resume (other than 4-5 Top 50 wins if I recall correctly).

Don't forget that UCLA was also "gaining steam" at the end of the regular season. One of the all-time worst justification comments from one of the worst NCAA Tournament Selection Committee Chairmen of all time Scott Barnes.

Pretty much the way it works is that the committee looks at what categories hurt the Flyers the most and then make those the most important criteria for selection. So another loss to a bottom feeder in the A10 and suddenly Bad Losses will be the #1 criterion this year. I'm only SLIGHTLY paranoid!

[ruechalgrin]

Originally Posted by TA111 The selection committee looks at your average RPI win as a critical element. Thus while having top 50 wins is important, it's not like they cut off good wins at 50. The Flyers avg win is around 109, which is one of the best in the country. We have a lot of good wins.

A lot of people who have sat in simulations or analyzed the committee process (including members of UD's Athletic Department and Joe Lunardi) describe how the nitty gritty sheets (they way the data is presented to the Commitee) as well as the discussions in the Committee room massively overrate the importance of top 50 wins. A lot of science exists on how data visualization and presentation can materially skew outcomes.

No statistical significance separates a win versus 45 compared to 55, but the Committee gets overwhelmed by data and often defaults to top 50 wins (and to a lesser extent top 100 wins). They also discuss SOS too much which is already factored into the RPI ranking.

Unfortunately, it is very important for boarderline top 50 and 100 opponents to fall on the right side of the top 50 and 100 bubbles.

[UD90]

This is turning out to be pretty good - Latest Update

Top 50 - 2/12/2016 - 5-2
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Iowa W
Monmouth W
Alabama W
St Bonaventure W
George Washington W
Xavier L
Chattanooga L

Top 51-60 - 2-0
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52 William and Mary
54 Davidson

Future Games
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27 St Joes (A)
36 St Bonaventure (H)
53 VCU (H)

High End Top 50 record:
10-2 (unlikely, but possible).

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	George Washington GEORGE WASHINGTON Students choose from two distinct GW campuses — Foggy Bottom and Mount Vernon. Both are located in historic and prestigious Northwest Washington, DC residential neighborhoods. With 9,700 undergraduate students, GW was founded almost 200 years ago and is named after the first President of the United States. GW stands as one of the nation's premier academic institutions with dozens of famous political, social, science, liberal arts, medical and professional graduates to its credit. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Colonials.

[UD90]

Top 50 -> 4-2
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Xavier L - 6
Iowa W - 8
Chattanooga L - 32
St Bonaventure W - 33
Monmouth W -35
Alabama W - 36

Top 51-60 -> 2-0
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54 Vanderbilt W
55 George Washington W

Potential Future Games
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25 St Joes (A)
33 St Bonaventure (H)
58 VCU (H) (Losing to UMASS and playing SLU dropped them a few spots)


Likely gone now
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61 William and Mary W
67 Davidson (loses to GMU) W

It appears that:

* at least 4-2 looks solid.
* if we can beat SJU and SBU we should finish 6-2 or better
* if Vandy, GW, and VCU improve enough to move into the Top 50 9-2 is possible.


I am guessing we finish 6-3 or 7-2 against the Top 50.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	George Washington GEORGE WASHINGTON Students choose from two distinct GW campuses — Foggy Bottom and Mount Vernon. Both are located in historic and prestigious Northwest Washington, DC residential neighborhoods. With 9,700 undergraduate students, GW was founded almost 200 years ago and is named after the first President of the United States. GW stands as one of the nation's premier academic institutions with dozens of famous political, social, science, liberal arts, medical and professional graduates to its credit. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Colonials.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.