20-21 Season News/Discussion

[NJFlyr71]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo I guess this is mostly moot now that we know it was a staff member, but to piggy back off Medford's post, I believe it boils down to time of exposure. IIRC, the NFL study said about 15 minutes. So you might think it would be pretty easy to transmit in the trenches of a football game, but in reality the players are just not that close to each other for long enough periods of time. Basketball is indoors and there's no helmets, facemasks, visors so maybe it is a little more risky. There are points in a game where a player is very close to an opposing player, but how long does that proximity last? Let's put it this way. If a player on GW tested positive and it turned out later that a UD player tested positive and the only contact the UD player had with any known infected person was ON THE COURT with this GW player this would be front page news. I don't mean front page of the DDN. I mean headline national breaking story that is reported all over the world. It would be the first instance of any such thing occurring (again I'm hitching myself onto Medford's post).

In this crazy environment we have had the CDC claim that exposure risk was high IF you spent 15 minutes OR MORE near an infected person ... but wait they later made the statement that it was an accumulative 15 minutes so as an example 15 - 1 minute exposures over any period of time.

So brief contact would count in a game against a player who was infected but more than likely contact in practice sessions against one of your own over a couple days would be more risky.

Of course masks weren't necessary in the beginning of the pandemic (later we were told that was NOT true but we didn't have enough masks for the general public and we wanted to conserve what we had for the medical and health staff). Once there was a larger supply we where then told that you MUST wear a mask.

SO is the 15 minutes based on science or is it to allow certain activities to take place?

You may not know this but aerosol droplets can contact your EYES and the membranes of your eyes have cells that the virus can latch on to. The virus does not need to be inhaled into the lungs.

Growing up in the 50' we had civil defense drills in grade school. During an attack we were told to scurry under our desks and place our hands around our head. What they didn't tell us though, if it was a nuclear attack (which is what the main concern truly was at that time) we should have placed our head in a position to kiss our arse good-bye!

There were many other government truisms' in those days predicated around the use of and build up of Nuke arms. Lest the general populace concern themselves about what was really going on.

[Swampy Meadows]

NBC Sports Network to close by EOY:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ourand_SB...00248800579588
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[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows NBC Sports Network to close by EOY: https://mobile.twitter.com/Ourand_SB...00248800579588 Posted via Mobile Device

I'm sure Bernadette and the A10 are all over this.

[jack72]

Per the NCAA, "The NCAA tournament will tip off Thursday, March 18, with the First Four games. The first round will follow March 19-20, with the second round March 21-22. Those games will take place at Mackey Arena in West Lafayette, Assembly Hall in Bloomington, along with Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Hinkle Fieldhouse, Indiana Farmers Coliseum and Lucas Oil Stadium."

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows NBC Sports Network to close by EOY: https://mobile.twitter.com/Ourand_SB...00248800579588 Posted via Mobile Device

Probably just moving to Peacock Network which will mean games are streamed.

[CT Flyer]

Did anyone hear that Neubauer got fired at Fordham?

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Did anyone hear that Neubauer got fired at Fordham?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...sketball-coach

"Neubauer has been on the hot seat for the past couple of seasons, and many expected him to be out after last season. But Fordham athletic director Dave Roach retired last spring, and the changes in the department likely bought Neubauer another season."

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[Bill McPeek]

Anyone taking the Fordham job is delusional unless he gets some assurances from the administration. It is a place where coaches go to die.

https://fordhamsports.com/news/2021/...g-fordham.aspx

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Bill McPeek Anyone taking the Fordham job is delusional unless he gets some assurances from the administration. It is a place where coaches go to die. https://fordhamsports.com/news/2021/...g-fordham.aspx

When the word was out last year that Neubauer was on his way out, it was said Jared Grasso from Bryant was the leading candidate. I agree its not the place you would aspire to but it is a big step up to the A10 from the NEC. I guess you just hope to have one good season and catch somebody's eye at a better school. But if that doesn't happen you might not get another look at all.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[Chris R]

Originally Posted by Bill McPeek Anyone taking the Fordham job is delusional unless he gets some assurances from the administration. It is a place where coaches go to die. https://fordhamsports.com/news/2021/...g-fordham.aspx

One of our worst basketball losses ever. Its not Biscayne.....but its close.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[maddog07]

Originally Posted by rollo https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...sketball-coach "Neubauer has been on the hot seat for the past couple of seasons, and many expected him to be out after last season. But Fordham athletic director Dave Roach retired last spring, and the changes in the department likely bought Neubauer another season."

We certainly did our part to help him stay employed. Really underscores how horrific our loss is.
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[Monster Man]

This is kind of off topic, but I’m at the Centerville/Beavercreek game and none other than Kyle Davis is an assistant coach for Beavercreek. He’s very much into the game and coach’s with the same intensity as when he was a player.
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[Monster Man]

For those that don’t know, Former Flyer, Steve Pittman is the Head Coach for Beavercreek. The Elks are a very good high school team and won 76-55.

[soccergod]

Any word on RJ Blankney didn’t see him at the game ?
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[Alberto Strasse]

Dayton ranks 84 in the NET, ESPN BPI and the RPI. Scheduling Eastern Illinois was a mistake
as they are 312 (NET); 201 (BPI); 286 (RPI). As we start February the UD Vital stats are suffering.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse Dayton ranks 84 in the NET, ESPN BPI and the RPI. Scheduling Eastern Illinois was a mistake as they are 312 (NET); 201 (BPI); 286 (RPI). As we start February the UD Vital stats are suffering.

Can you tell us what our NET, BPI and RPI would be if that game hadn't been played?

The losses to LaSalle & Fordham are the boat anchors on the Flyers' metrics, presumably, more so than a close W over EIU. We've got (4) Q1 and Q2 wins for 4-2 in those quads. We'd be looking pretty good w/out the (2) Q4 losses.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[ud2]

Wright State right now NET 63, Kenpom 65...projected on Kenpom to win out...could have likely played at WSU in a q1 game this year, seems like a missed opportunity if they keep winning

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by ud2 wright state right now net 63, kenpom 65...projected on kenpom to win out...could have likely played at wsu in a q1 game this year, seems like a missed opportunity if they keep winning

zzzzzzzz......

[Swampy Meadows]

Interesting afternoon in the A-10: Giant killer LaSalle loses to Fordham and SLU knocks off league leader SBU. We really are canibalizing each other aren’t we?
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	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by ud2 Wright State right now NET 63, Kenpom 65...projected on Kenpom to win out...could have likely played at WSU in a q1 game this year, seems like a missed opportunity if they keep winning

This insight is so unlike the lottery where if I had known the winning Pick 6 combo in advance I would have played the lottery.

[Swampy Meadows]

We can forget about UMass on Tuesday:

https://mobile.twitter.com/UMassAthl...01758129700866
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	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows We can forget about UMass on Tuesday: https://mobile.twitter.com/UMassAthl...01758129700866 Posted via Mobile Device

Would be nice to find a replacement. What is Richmond’s schedule?

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows We can forget about UMass on Tuesday: https://mobile.twitter.com/UMassAthl...01758129700866 Posted via Mobile Device

The good news is that my streak of being at every game in New England since 1999 is still in tact....for now.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[rollo]

FWIW, since neither play until Friday 2/12, both Wright State and Miami are available on Tuesday.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows Interesting afternoon in the A-10: Giant killer LaSalle loses to Fordham and SLU knocks off league leader SBU. We really are canibalizing each other aren’t we? Posted via Mobile Device

Will Juan Bid please report to the NCAA Tournament registration table?
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	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by rollo FWIW, since neither play until Friday 2/12, both Wright State and Miami are available on Tuesday.

Since GW vs Richmond is unlikely to happen Tuesday, and they (GW) owe us a game...they can just divert to Dayton.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer This insight is so unlike the lottery where if I had known the winning Pick 6 combo in advance I would have played the lottery.

Not really...WSU got off to a good start this year...all the computers were projecting them to have a good year...back in December, we had an opening, they had an opening, we could have made this happen, and it had a potential benefit for both sides.

[Glen Clark]

It will be VCU at the Arena Tuesday @ 5:00 PM.


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[ud2]

Originally Posted by rollo FWIW, since neither play until Friday 2/12, both Wright State and Miami are available on Tuesday.

Another opportunity, give WSU a call...a q1 road win opportunity or a q2 home game

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by ud2 Another opportunity, give WSU a call...a q1 road win opportunity or a q2 home game

They can play Miami.

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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

[UD62]

Originally Posted by ud2 Not really...WSU got off to a good start this year...all the computers were projecting them to have a good year...back in December, we had an opening, they had an opening, we could have made this happen, and it had a potential benefit for both sides.

Perhaps this sequence of events is trying to tell you something.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by ud2 Another opportunity, give WSU a call...a q1 road win opportunity or a q2 home game

Rest easy.......we found a better game/opponent.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER Rest easy.......we found a better game/opponent.

How so? VCU at home is a q2 game, WSU at WSU is a q1 game.

Had we played at WSU in December, that would have been our only ooc q1 game. I don't get why we turned down a q1 ooc game, it is not like q1 ooc games are easy to come by, they are very difficult to get scheduled.

Our 3 q1 games this year are at VCU, at SLU, and at Davidson.

At SBU will likely be our final q1 game.

So 4 q1 games total. Why not go for a fifth?

Quadrant 1: Home 1-30; Neutral 1-50; Away 1-75.

Quadrant 2: Home 31-75; Neutral 51-100; Away 76-135.

WSU 56

At 36 VCU, q1
At 39 SBU, q1
At 43 SLU, q1
At 68 Davidson, q1

57 SMU home, q2
64 Ole Miss home, q2
72 MSU neutral, q2

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by UD62 Perhaps this sequence of events is trying to tell you something.

What is it trying to tell me? That we turned down a q1 away game because we are afraid of losing? That is a loser's mentality. Nobody ever got anywhere in life shrinking away from a challenge. Play the tougher games. Come on, we can't be afraid to play a Horizon League school.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark They can play Miami. _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

Q3 game at Miami, q4 at UD, no thanks, not worth it.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by ud2 Q3 game at Miami, q4 at UD, no thanks, not worth it.

I was referring to Wright State - they can play Miami.

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Walter Sobchak - The Big Lebowski

[jack72]

Originally Posted by ud2 What is it trying to tell me? That we turned down a q1 away game because we are afraid of losing? That is a loser's mentality. Nobody ever got anywhere in life shrinking away from a challenge. Play the tougher games. Come on, we can't be afraid to play a Horizon League school.

I had not seen that UD turned down a game with Wright State. Is that true, or are you just playing what if games? If so, then what if UD contacted Wright and they turned down the game?

[UD62]

Originally Posted by ud2 How so? VCU at home is a q2 game, WSU at WSU is a q1 game. Had we played at WSU in December, that would have been our only ooc q1 game. I don't get why we turned down a q1 ooc game, it is not like q1 ooc games are easy to come by, they are very difficult to get scheduled. Our 3 q1 games this year are at VCU, at SLU, and at Davidson. At SBU will likely be our final q1 game. So 4 q1 games total. Why not go for a fifth? Quadrant 1: Home 1-30; Neutral 1-50; Away 1-75. Quadrant 2: Home 31-75; Neutral 51-100; Away 76-135. WSU 56 At 36 VCU, q1 At 39 SBU, q1 At 43 SLU, q1 At 68 Davidson, q1 57 SMU home, q2 64 Ole Miss home, q2 72 MSU neutral, q2

None of this matters this year. We are not good enough to get an at-large bid. the only way we dance is by being A-10 champs, and the odds of that happening are huge.

If you are suggesting that we should have scheduled an away game at WSU, you are beating a dead horse.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by ud2 How so? VCU at home is a q2 game, WSU at WSU is a q1 game. Had we played at WSU in December, that would have been our only ooc q1 game. I don't get why we turned down a q1 ooc game, it is not like q1 ooc games are easy to come by, they are very difficult to get scheduled. Our 3 q1 games this year are at VCU, at SLU, and at Davidson. At SBU will likely be our final q1 game. So 4 q1 games total. Why not go for a fifth? Quadrant 1: Home 1-30; Neutral 1-50; Away 1-75. Quadrant 2: Home 31-75; Neutral 51-100; Away 76-135. WSU 56 At 36 VCU, q1 At 39 SBU, q1 At 43 SLU, q1 At 68 Davidson, q1 57 SMU home, q2 64 Ole Miss home, q2 72 MSU neutral, q2

You're making the assumption that a game vs WSU is at their place.

We could have, and perhaps even should have, played them earlier in the year. I'll repeat, with the short window scheduling, it could have easily happened, setting aside all egos and negotiating chips (2-for-1, where is this game played?, next years'?, etc.).

But given the history of WSU's net/RPI, it's nary a thought. Might have been a quality win/opponent.

The attention and energy with which you focus on it is nowhere near the issue you want it to be.

LET. IT. GO.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by ud2 how so? Vcu at home is a q2 game, wsu at wsu is a q1 game. Had we played at wsu in december, that would have been our only ooc q1 game. I don't get why we turned down a q1 ooc game, it is not like q1 ooc games are easy to come by, they are very difficult to get scheduled. Our 3 q1 games this year are at vcu, at slu, and at davidson. At sbu will likely be our final q1 game. So 4 q1 games total. Why not go for a fifth? Quadrant 1: Home 1-30; neutral 1-50; away 1-75. Quadrant 2: Home 31-75; neutral 51-100; away 76-135. Wsu 56 at 36 vcu, q1 at 39 sbu, q1 at 43 slu, q1 at 68 davidson, q1 57 smu home, q2 64 ole miss home, q2 72 msu neutral, q2

zzzzzzzzzz.....

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Senior Night will be celebrated Feb 19 SLU game.
https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...581753351?s=20

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Monster Man]

During the OSU butt-kicking of Archie’’s Hoosiers, Jay Bilas repeatedly said that Indiana is an NCAA tournament team. They’re 11-9 and 6-7 in their conference. Also, Lunardi has them in at a 10 seed. Are you kidding me? The P5 bias is alive and well.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by Monster Man During the OSU butt-kicking of Archie’’s Hoosiers, Jay Bilas repeatedly said that Indiana is an NCAA tournament team. They’re 11-9 and 6-7 in their conference. Also, Lunardi has them in at a 10 seed. Are you kidding me? The P5 bias is alive and well.

I don't believe this is a good example of P5 bias. They swept Iowa, for one. They've certainly "looked" like an NCAAt team in most of their games. If they get to/finish .500 in a brutal B10, they should be in. At a 10 seed is a slippery slope. That's far from being comfortable.

[Monster Man]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER I don't believe this is a good example of P5 bias. They swept Iowa, for one. They've certainly "looked" like an NCAAt team in most of their games. If they get to/finish .500 in a brutal B10, they should be in. At a 10 seed is a slippery slope. That's far from being comfortable.

They’re 11-9 and will likely lose more games in a very tough conference. So by your logic, losses don’t count and are almost like wins. Oh, and they have “looked” like an NCAA tournament team. I guess that falls in the category of “passing the eye test.”. I’d much rather see two MVC teams like Drake and Loyola get bids over an average to mediocre Indiana team. Winning games should matter.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by Monster Man They’re 11-9 and will likely lose more games in a very tough conference. So by your logic, losses don’t count and are almost like wins. Oh, and they have “looked” like an NCAA tournament team. I guess that falls in the category of “passing the eye test.”. I’d much rather see two MVC teams like Drake and Loyola get bids over an average to mediocre Indiana team. Winning games should matter.

I agree with winning games. It should trump a handful of "close losses". If Drake had lost to Loyola-Chi last weekend in the second game, I would have Drake OUT. I actually turned it off when they were down 10 with like 5 minutes to play. Made a big comeback and won it in OT.

Until then, Drake hadn't beat a team in the Kenpom Top 100. I was, and still partially am, a fan of Drake making the tournament. Thru their first ~18 games, they were DESTROYING teams. But they hadn't beaten a single team in at-large contention. While wins should count, you've got to pick up some quality wins.

Even with their Win over Loyola, I might still be inclined to take IU over Drake with their comparable resumes. IU is 7-8 in Q1/Q2 games. That's pretty darn good and there should be SOME benefit to a challenging schedule, particularly that tough and winning ~half of those games.

Drake is 5-1 in Q1/Q2 games, with most of those being Q2 games.

I'd give the nod to Drake right now, but I think it's pretty close. That comeback win last weekend was MASSIVE for them.

[ud2]

The NIT announced today that the NIT will be played this year. We are the 21st team out of the ncaat right now on Torvik, if we make an end of season run, we could play ourselves into the NIT.

I think a ncaat at-large bid is probably out of the question right now, even if we win out we are the 5th team out on Torvik.

https://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?...yton&year=2021

https://saturdaytradition.com/big-te...21-tournament/:

John Feinstein, an author and contributor to the Washington Post, is reporting that the NIT plans to host its annual tournament, though this year there will be 16 teams rather than the traditional 32. All games are expected to be held in New York.

Feinstein did not mention whether or not Madison Square Garden would still be hosting the tournament. Typically, the basketball cathedral in the heart of New York City hosts the final rounds of the NIT.

One other change to this year’s tournament is that conference regular season champions who do not earn a bid to the NCAA Tournament will not receive a guaranteed spot into the NIT. That is likely because of the limited number of teams that will be invited this year.

Like the NCAA Tournament last year, the NIT was canceled because of the COVID-19 pandemic. So far, just one college basketball postseason event has been called off, with the CIT announcing it will not move forward with this year’s tournament.

[Flyerferd]

Originally Posted by ud2 The NIT announced today that the NIT will be played this year. We are the 21st team out of the ncaat right now on Torvik, if we make an end of season run, we could play ourselves into the NIT. I think a ncaat at-large bid is probably out of the question right now, even if we win out we are the 5th team out on Torvik. https://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?...yton&year=2021 https://saturdaytradition.com/big-te...21-tournament/: John Feinstein, an author and contributor to the Washington Post, is reporting that the NIT plans to host its annual tournament, though this year there will be 16 teams rather than the traditional 32. All games are expected to be held in New York. Feinstein did not mention whether or not Madison Square Garden would still be hosting the tournament. Typically, the basketball cathedral in the heart of New York City hosts the final rounds of the NIT. One other change to this year’s tournament is that conference regular season champions who do not earn a bid to the NCAA Tournament will not receive a guaranteed spot into the NIT. That is likely because of the limited number of teams that will be invited this year. Like the NCAA Tournament last year, the NIT was canceled because of the COVID-19 pandemic. So far, just one college basketball postseason event has been called off, with the CIT announcing it will not move forward with this year’s tournament.

Yeah, I don’t think Dayton goes to the NIT if invited. It’s not like we can bring fans, and all it does is create more logistical headaches during a pandemic With a team that lost to Fordham not probably caring much at that point.
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	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[UD62]

We have Slu at home, SBU on the road, throw in the
A-10 tourny and we have a possible three more losses . Don't think we have any real possibility of post season play. And ferd makes a point, why go?

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[ud2]

You may be right, Feinstein mentions some p5 teams possibly skipping the NIT.

https://thespun.com/college-hoops/ni...021-tournament:


Only bad thing is they won't...
John Feinstein
@JFeinsteinBooks
(2) guarantee a spot to conference champions who don't win conference tournaments. Some will get in because 9th place teams from power conferences will suddenly claim covid because they don't want to play.

[TXFlyerFan]

Does anyone even care about the NIT?

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan Does anyone even care about the NIT?

Most fans are pretty cavalier about the NIT. This year? I suspect the interest would be non-existent.

CAG, with a boatload of underclassmen? What could it hurt? A couple more games against some decent opponents? I know Crutcher will be presumably disinterested. Probably even more disinterested than Watson seemingly is every defensive possession. But it might be worth the "development time" for some guys.

[Swampy Meadows]

The A-10 added a game for UD on Wednesday vs St Joe:

https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...PY26SP5E5RRFU/
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	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[Figgie123]

And at Saint Bonaventure next Sunday is the season finale.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[ud2]

Now the 13th team out on Torvik, the NIT may be in reach if they just take the first 16 out.

https://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?...yton&year=2021

[maddog07]

An extra game or so could be important to Crutcher as he moves up in some historical statistics. He’d likely be higher if he hadn’t missed out on post season games last year and canceled games this year.
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[ud2]

This is the only current NIT tracker I could find, updated Thu 2/18, we are the 7th team out I guess since they are only taking 16. SLU win should help.

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Flyer 86]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan Senior Night will be celebrated Feb 19 SLU game. https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...581753351?s=20

Oh, and it was CELEBRATED alright! Surprising and much needed victory!

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Figgie123]

Originally Posted by Figgie123 And at Saint Bonaventure next Sunday is the season finale.

Saint Bonaventure game has been moved to Monday, March 1st.

Dayton Flyers link

Game time and which ESPN network it will televised on will be announced this week

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[jack72]

I also see the final game with VCU has been cancelled.

[TX Flyer]

Not that I want to see Dayton in the CBI but are we even eligible to be invited?

I agree with poster above. We need to get our freshman playing time to see what they can do. What better way than a meaningless tournament like the CBI?

[TA111]

Originally Posted by TX Flyer Not that I want to see Dayton in the CBI but are we even eligible to be invited? I agree with poster above. We need to get our freshman playing time to see what they can do. What better way than a meaningless tournament like the CBI?

There is no CBI this year. It’s been cancelled.

[longtimefan]

This may sound crazy but the A-10 might want to consider scheduling some games the Wednesday between the A-10 tourney semis and finals. It would be a chance to give teams another game, not unlike what the Big 10 did in football, scheduling games the same day as the Big 10 Championship game. It would give kids a chance to play another game and perhaps give a bubble team another chance to get a quality win.

[ud2]

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

4th team out of the NIT.

Torvik has UD in the NIT field in the last 4 in.

[rollo]

Are they really having the NIT?? Good lord...

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by longtimefan This may sound crazy but the A-10 might want to consider scheduling some games the Wednesday between the A-10 tourney semis and finals. It would be a chance to give teams another game, not unlike what the Big 10 did in football, scheduling games the same day as the Big 10 Championship game. It would give kids a chance to play another game and perhaps give a bubble team another chance to get a quality win.

Extremely unlikely. If they were going to consider that, why not just do it the week the conference already had open, rather than push the first three rounds of the conference tourney up a week? Their actions would appear counterintuitive to such a consideration.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by rollo Are they really having the NIT?? Good lord...

Yes, they are having it...16 teams instead of 32...all games in NYC...no autobid to low major regular season league winners if they lose in their conference tourney...some p5's, per rumor, will skip the NIT, if offered a bid, claiming covid as an excuse

[Flyerferd]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER Extremely unlikely. If they were going to consider that, why not just do it the week the conference already had open, rather than push the first three rounds of the conference tourney up a week? Their actions would appear counterintuitive to such a consideration.

I could see them doing something like this if let’s say, Saint Bonaventure, St. Louis, VCU, or Richmond go out in the tournament early. The conference could then manufacturer a quad one or two game for those teams to get them back on the bubble.
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	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[Swampy Meadows]

In this interview with Bernadette McGlade she says that Neil offered UD Arena for the A-10 Championship after the decision had been made to move it up a week and all the other ADs were totally onboard:

https://richmond.com/sports/college/...mpression=true
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[CvilleFlyer]

As I watched the you tube video released today of Chris Mack's comments about John Calipari after Louisville's win over UK back on Dec. 26th I couldn't help but think of the Evansville incident when Mack (at the direction of Jim Crews) threw the basketball 3 straight times at 7'0" Wes Coffee's face guarding the inbounds play under the basket. Was it in 1992, Coffee's senior year? I tried to find that UD game vs. the Evansville Purple Aces on you tube and couldn't find it. Is there any game video?

[TommyGola]

I was at that game. It was blatant and a very hard and intentional blow to the face.

[T-Bone 84]

I was at that game, too. As much as I can’t stand Mack, he was the 2nd of the Evansville players to do it, and I think he only did it once. The first guy to follow Crews’ order was a guy named Scott Shreffler. As I recall, after Shreffler did the first one, the crowd was stunned at first, and then angry. Then, when Mack did the second one, people were just irate. Afterward, Mack said that his regret over the incident was one of the factors that led him to transfer to _avier, but in seeing how his players at said alma mater handed themselves on and off the court, I had to wonder if Crews didn’t think he had the right weasel for the job.
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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CvilleFlyer]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 I was at that game, too. As much as I can’t stand Mack, he was the 2nd of the Evansville players to do it, and I think he only did it once. The first guy to follow Crews’ order was a guy named Scott Shreffler. As I recall, after Shreffler did the first one, the crowd was stunned at first, and then angry. Then, when Mack did the second one, people were just irate. Afterward, Mack said that his regret over the incident was one of the factors that led him to transfer to _avier, but in seeing how his players at said alma mater handed themselves on and off the court, I had to wonder if Crews didn’t think he had the right weasel for the job. Posted via Mobile Device

Thanks for the clarification of events T-Bone 84. I wasn't at the game and I didn't realize he only got hit twice, once by Shreffler and then once by Mack. Didn't Shreffler have something like 30 points in the game? Did the Flyers win? The reason I posted above is that I thought someone would have a tape of the game or at least the sequence as described above. That would be an interesting game to be able to watch for those of us that weren't there!

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 I was at that game, too. As much as I can’t stand Mack, he was the 2nd of the Evansville players to do it, and I think he only did it once. The first guy to follow Crews’ order was a guy named Scott Shreffler. As I recall, after Shreffler did the first one, the crowd was stunned at first, and then angry. Then, when Mack did the second one, people were just irate. Afterward, Mack said that his regret over the incident was one of the factors that led him to transfer to _avier, but in seeing how his players at said alma mater handed themselves on and off the court, I had to wonder if Crews didn’t think he had the right weasel for the job. Posted via Mobile Device

While Mack's players (particularly Lyons & Holloway) did not always present themselves in the best light, Mack himself is a pretty good dude.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer Thanks for the clarification of events T-Bone 84. I wasn't at the game and I didn't realize he only got hit twice, once by Shreffler and then once by Mack. Didn't Shreffler have something like 30 points in the game? Did the Flyers win? The reason I posted above is that I thought someone would have a tape of the game or at least the sequence as described above. That would be an interesting game to be able to watch for those of us that weren't there!

IIR, the year after Haffner lit us up for 65, I believe Shreffler went definitely for 30 and maybe even low 40's against us. Can anyone confirm that?

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer IIR, the year after Haffner lit us up for 65, I believe Shreffler went definitely for 30 and maybe even low 40's against us. Can anyone confirm that?

Haffner went for 65 in 1989. Can't confirm if Shreffler did his deal the following year or not. I suspect in was 2 or 3 years later, but not sure.

Here's a good rundown on the Mack/Coffee incident: https://www.csnbbs.com/thread-835908.html

[The Fly]

Mack could have and should have ignored his coach, but the real villain in that incident is Jim Crews. He was a tool as a player and even worse as a coach.

[Swampy Meadows]

UD Director of Athletic Communications Doug Hauschild is named the winner of the 2021 CoSIDA Lester Jordan award:

https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/...43000766447616

[ud2]

13th team out of the NIT:

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/


9th team out of the NIT, but if we beat SBU, we are the last team in the NIT:

https://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?...yton&year=2021

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[Alberto Strasse]

wants to go to the N.I.T.?

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER While Mack's players (particularly Lyons & Holloway) did not always present themselves in the best light, Mack himself is a pretty good dude.

At the very least, he “married up” when Christi Hester said yes to the dress.
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[ud2]

All NIT games will now be played in the Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas area, not NYC anymore. We are the first team out on Torvik, we are out on dratings.com.


https://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?...yton&year=2021

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021...ion_Tournament:


The 2021 National Invitational Tournament will be a single-elimination tournament of 16 NCAA Division I men's college basketball teams that had not been selected to participate in the 2021 NCAA Tournament. The Tournament will begin on March 17 and end on March 28. All rounds will be played at Comerica Center (Frisco, Texas) or UNT Coliseum (Denton, Texas). First-round games will be played Wednesday, March 17, through Saturday, March 20. Quarterfinals also will take place Thursday, March 25. The semifinals and championship will take place Saturday and Sunday, March 27 and 28. The 2021 tournament also will feature a third-place game Sunday, March 28, which hasn’t been played at the NIT since 2003[1].

[ud2]

Creighton hc McDermott apologizes for using the word plantation.

https://www.ketv.com/article/creight...-loss/35702647

[Class of 73 Alum]

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse wants to go to the N.I.T.?

Sign me up...

[ud2]

Teams and pairings for the 2021 NIT are scheduled to be released by the NIT Committee at 8:30 p.m. Eastern time Sunday, March 14, on ESPNU. Because of the reduced field size, all 16 teams will be selected as at-large participants, and there will be no automatic qualifiers for the NIT.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse wants to go to the N.I.T.?

Those of us who live in Dallas.

[ud2]

I hear that Xavier is trying to schedule another q1 game, between now and Selection Sunday, in an effort to boost their resume in order to get an at large bid.

Lol, I like the never say die attitude. Maybe they will pull it off.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[ud2]

Correction: they are looking to add 2 games immediately. I have never heard of this happening.

I remember that Bobby Knight used to make his team keep practicing even after they were eliminated from the ncaat or nit, if he was ticked off at his team, because the season is technically not over until the ncaat championship game has been played, but never something like this.

https://www.bannersontheparkway.com/...-march-madness

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

SLU was looking for someone to play also.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[jack72]

Our AD needs to call Xavier and invite them to play us at UD. Bet the connection would go bad, then disconnect.
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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan SLU was looking for someone to play also.

They probably don’t want to go another round with us, as we seem to have had their number these past few years. Unless, of course, our guys’ give-a-shizzit is busted.
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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by jack72 Our AD needs to call Xavier and invite them to play us at UD. Bet the connection would go bad, then disconnect. Posted via Mobile Device

“What did...say? You...reaking up. Must...bad connec...” (dial tone)
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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan SLU was looking for someone to play also.

I suggested the A-10 could schedule some games this week to give bubble teams a chance at another good win, and some posters acted like I was crazy. Looks like St Louis and Zavier are trying to do just that. They should play each other.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Monster Man]

Archie’s Hoosiers lose 6 in a row to finish the season at 12-15. They were booed heavily by the Indiana fans in the closing minutes of the game. This end of season collapse might seal his fate, but 10 million is a lot of money to make a coach go away.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by Monster Man Archie’s Hoosiers lose 6 in a row to finish the season at 12-15. They were booed heavily by the Indiana fans in the closing minutes of the game. This end of season collapse might seal his fate, but 10 million is a lot of money to make a coach go away.

They booed him big time during the introductions and at the end of the game. He’s fortunate there were no fans during the regular season. I can’t see how they bring him back.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by longtimefan I suggested the A-10 could schedule some games this week to give bubble teams a chance at another good win, and some posters acted like I was crazy. Looks like St Louis and Zavier are trying to do just that. They should play each other.

Problem is by Friday night of selection week the committee has already selected most of the at large teams. Saturday and into Sunday is more seeding. It wreaks of desperation and won’t do either team any good. You are what your record says you are at this point.

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by TA111 They booed him big time during the introductions and at the end of the game. He’s fortunate there were no fans during the regular season. I can’t see how they bring him back.

Archie's Hoosiers went the last 9:50 of the game without a field goal. They were 2/8 down the stretch at the foul line and 6/15 for the game. Finally, they were 2/16 from the three for the game. I have never seen an I.U. team booed like they were tonight...and that was in Indy! Having lived in Indiana for 12 years, I know how seriously they take the game of basketball. I think the last thing the I.U. athletic leadership wants to experience is all of the booing at Assembly Hall next year. I think Archie will be gone within one week.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Monster Man Archie’s Hoosiers lose 6 in a row to finish the season at 12-15. They were booed heavily by the Indiana fans in the closing minutes of the game. This end of season collapse might seal his fate, but 10 million is a lot of money to make a coach go away.

Well, maybe I will end up being wrong, but they owe him over $10 million over the next 3 years, so over $3 million per year, plus whatever they pay the new coach, which I assume will also be around $2 or $3 million.

That's at least $16 million over the next 3 years. I just don't see it.

There is an offset if he gets a new job elsewhere, but he might want to take some time off at this point instead of jumping right back in somewhere else. I am sure he is stressed out, he has to be. Getting fired takes an emotional toll IMO.

[CT Flyer]

There would be no toll for me if I got fired tomorrow and they were to pay me $10M over the next three years...I'm not too proud.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by TA111 Problem is by Friday night of selection week the committee has already selected most of the at large teams. Saturday and into Sunday is more seeding. It wreaks of desperation and won’t do either team any good. You are what your record says you are at this point.

Right. They would have had to play earlier in the week. I should have said they should have played each other, not that they should play each other.

[cj]

What takes its toll is always thinking the grass is always greener somewhere else.
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