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I don't need a B lot pass with all the elites. Make their passes holograms. Just SELL me a D lot pass.
Im with you here. Its not like "Elites" is a bad term. i think he took it as a deragatory term. And you certainly didnt come across as envious.
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Thanks for the info guys. Don't want to make this the "complain about parking in Lot O" thread, but I didn't know they were doing anything like that.

Seems labor intensive and not very efficient, but at least they are trying to do something.
The arriving, parking, and departing phases of attending an event are so key, but for whatever reason I think too many "venue operators" for lack of a better term fail to understand that. It's basically a visitor's - a customer's! - first and last impression of their outing.
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Beth Keyes, currently VP of Facilities and Campus Operations, will become the project manager for the Arena transformation.
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The arriving, parking, and departing phases of attending an event are so key, but for whatever reason I think too many "venue operators" for lack of a better term fail to understand that. It's basically a visitor's - a customer's! - first and last impression of their outing.
So true... The Nutter Center is an example of the bad. One point is the higher ups "The Boards" are composed of people who don't buy regular tickets, park in lots, and slosh thru the snow.

Remember their opinion is more important because they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express!
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Parking structures

Parking is a problem everywhere...at most places more so than at UD. When I look at the acres of parking around the Arena I often wonder what the complaining is about.

UConn's on-campus facility seats 10,400 and is right in the middle of campus. That means fans are competing for parking spaces with university staff and students for available spots on game nights. For many years when we went to games we did not know where we would wind up parking.

Since then UConn has constructed two large parking garages which have helped enormously, i.e.., we always know where we are going to park...in our assigned garage directly across the street from the arena. The garages have six floors of parking with entrances/exits at the top and bottom. If you are on levels 1 or 2, or 5 or 6, you're in good shape. But, God help those that wind up on levels 3 or 4. If you're in the "middle" it can take 45 min, easy, to exit the garage. The solution is to leave the game plenty early...just like the Arena parking lots.

What really frosts my wife is that upon entry to our garage are about 20 spaces that are roped off and guarded....spaces that usually remain unused except for a few. Those spaces are for "Legend" donors...$50K+ annually. I explain to my wife that if a guy gives $50K or more he d@mn well better have a guaranteed space to park when he comes to a game. Still she btiches.

Parking is a fundamental problem. Fans arrive over a period of 30-45 minutes, or so. But everyone wants to leave at the same time, for the most part. That's tough to deal with even under the best circumstances.

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Off topic question...

Sorry to post this question here but I couldn't find the "construction: forum.

Does anyone know if the project to demolish McGinnis and build an apartment complex has begun? If so, what is the current status. Thank you.
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Inside scoop good news: The new HD screen was delivered and should be installed soon if not already.

Inside scoop bad news: The project is behind schedule as UD attempts to cut costs...stay tuned.
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Inside scoop good news: The new HD screen was delivered and should be installed soon if not already.

Inside scoop bad news: The project is behind schedule as UD attempts to cut costs...stay tuned.
So why do you install HD screens and new seats during phase I, when tons of concrete to be jack hammered up, walls torn out, etc......in the future phases? The pretty cosmetic things should come last after the dust has settled, not first.

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What HD screen are you speaking of?
(thought they already installed the 4 new HD screens over center court)
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Inside scoop good news: The new HD screen was delivered and should be installed soon if not already.

Inside scoop bad news: The project is behind schedule as UD attempts to cut costs...stay tuned.
It's not an inside scoop if it was on twitter and youtube on August 18th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl5WDyoXR4A

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It's not an inside scoop if it was on twitter and youtube on August 18th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl5WDyoXR4A

https://twitter.com/DaytonFlyers/sta...98666742648832

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Your forgetting how old Rollo is. If it is not in the DDN he does not see it.
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President Spina posted a few photos today... center scoreboard is hung and looks superb. Ribbon boards are new (and functional). Heard things are looking good in there - rave reviews for the new seats.
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So are they leaving the video boards in the corners too?
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So are they leaving the video boards in the corners too?
For now yes, but later on they will move them a bit (still in the corners) and angle them so you can see better from the upper Arena. Most folks should be able to see the center video boards, though I think some of the sight lines from up high won't be great to see the center boards.
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So why do you install HD screens and new seats during phase I, when tons of concrete to be jack hammered up, walls torn out, etc......in the future phases? The pretty cosmetic things should come last after the dust has settled, not first.
You could do that if you were renovating everything at once. But since they have taken the view of doing this over 3 offseasons, they can't afford to not put the place back together again after each season of work.
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You could do that if you were renovating everything at once. But since they have taken the view of doing this over 3 offseasons, they can't afford to not put the place back together again after each season of work.
That...and the fact that if you are going to request a return on a graduated seat license increase, those with the most to give need to see some benefit out of the gate.
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Phase one of the three-year, $72 million renovation of UD Arena remains on schedule. UD Arena Director Scott DeBolt expects the Dayton Flyers will get a chance practice on their home court at least a week before their exhibition games Nov. 4, if not earlier.

“Hopefully, we’ll get them in the building at least to shoot around to get a feel for it a little bit,” DeBolt said Wednesday.

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Interesting Archdeacon write up on Larry Connor, who is spearheading much of the fundraising for the transformation.

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It's been a while since passing by the display along I75 near the arena.
But based upon the comments on this board in other threads that display doesn't work about 99.7 % of the time. Here's hoping the new indoor vid board has got a much better "up-time" .

BTW is something going to be done about that I75 display board . Nothing spells small time better than an outdoor video display that has not worked in years with your name displayed near it!
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For now yes, but later on they will move them a bit (still in the corners) and angle them so you can see better from the upper Arena. Most folks should be able to see the center video boards, though I think some of the sight lines from up high won't be great to see the center boards.
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With the center board hung the corner boards will stay the same for this season. Arena staff are going to survey (visually and by asking) fans during the season to see where their eyes are drawn during games and to what boards they look at. This will determine how they are positioned after season 1 of the renovations.

I was told that they may take opposing boards and flip one towards the upper arena and keep the opposite the way it is. I would think with the style of center scoreboard, stat displays will be the same as other places UD travels to with them on the center display...such as Barclays.

The center scoreboard is yuge as seen in the Instagram pictures above. The speakers for the new audio system are impressive as well. It will definitely sound like a modern arena and give people what they want in terms of audio.

The oddest part is seeing the lower arena having seats that are all one color. It plays on the eyes. I thought it looked bigger, as the seats are a darker blue. They look nice. There is a contrast from the dark blue seats and the refinished concrete. The concrete is lighter. May sound odd that the refinished concrete is noticed, but it changes the overall appearance of the lower arena.

I am excited to see the project come together.
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The oddest part is seeing the lower arena having seats that are all one color. It plays on the eyes.
Do they look like red sweaters?
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Do they look like red sweaters?
Guess the red sweaters will contrast nicely with the blue seats...
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Guess the red sweaters will contrast nicely with the blue seats...
Sounds like they missed the boat on this. The lower bowl seats should have been painted to look like red sweater vests. That way, when everyone heads out early to beat the traffic, the lower arena would still look full.
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It's been a while since passing by the display along I75 near the arena.
But based upon the comments on this board in other threads that display doesn't work about 99.7 % of the time. Here's hoping the new indoor vid board has got a much better "up-time" .

BTW is something going to be done about that I75 display board . Nothing spells small time better than an outdoor video display that has not worked in years with your name displayed near it!
Last time I talked to Neil about it the technology to even run the I75 board is antiquated and no longer supported (similar to the old game scores on the end zone boards inside the Arena). There were no specific funds to re-do it right away in the Arena reno, but were savings found during the process, it would be looked into.

Im sure Daktronics makes a solution for it. All it takes is someone with a large enough checkbook.

I agree about the acid-washed/painted concrete inside. Whatever they did or however they did it, it looks 100% better. The old concrete looked dark and dirty like a cell block on Alcatraz.
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I agree about the acid-washed/painted concrete inside. Whatever they did or however they did it, it looks 100% better. The old concrete looked dark and dirty like a cell block on Alcatraz.
I haven't been in there yet but maybe they painted/coated it with a product similar to those garage floor coatings or even a line-x type product. Whatever it is looks 100% better.

Also I'm just waiting for the first person to complain on here that the speakers are too lowd.
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Can't wait to hear the new sound. Under the overhang in lower bowl corner the PA didn't exist for my liking.
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I haven't been in there yet but maybe they painted/coated it with a product similar to those garage floor coatings or even a line-x type product. Whatever it is looks 100% better.
Nothing fancy. They ground off all the old seat hardware. Filled the holes/cracks/etc, ground it all down and resurfaced it all and appeared to simply seal it. I was in there before the scoreboard was hung and it was a dust bowl. Gotta think about all the years of dirt, grime, etc that gets worn into concrete. A resurface and a simple sealer will make concrete look brand new.
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I was in the arena last night and it looks awesome. All the seats are installed and the scoreboard is nothing short of Royal.

While I was there the staff was rehearsing the team entrance for pregame layup lines, etc... The cheerleaders were just in shorts and t-shirts but the funny part was the 'team' consisted of a bunch of 30-50 year old men who ran out of the locker room behind the cheerleaders just like the team and went straight to layup lines...really, really ugly layup lines. All the while the music was cranked up and highlight videos were playing as if it were gameday.

I can't imagine anyone complaining about the upgrades, but I'm sure we'll hear of a couple* by this time next week.
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Originally Posted by Chris R View Post
Last time I talked to Neil about it the technology to even run the I75 board is antiquated and no longer supported (similar to the old game scores on the end zone boards inside the Arena). There were no specific funds to re-do it right away in the Arena reno, but were savings found during the process, it would be looked into.

Im sure Daktronics makes a solution for it. All it takes is someone with a large enough checkbook.

I agree about the acid-washed/painted concrete inside. Whatever they did or however they did it, it looks 100% better. The old concrete looked dark and dirty like a cell block on Alcatraz.
I find it hard to believe that, with an Arena renovation that will end up north of $100M this can't also be addressed.
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On one of those UD sponsored "open houses" at the arena a long time ago ... but RIGHT after the $72 million dollar renovation number was repeated in the paper ... I answered the cost question to another fellow visitor ... But I was corrected by the UD guide (younger UD Sports employee) ... he said the "Renovation is $75 Million". I just kept quiet but I wanted to say ... "Boy it went up $3M overnight".
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I don't have tickets to the game Saturday, but would someone please post pictures? I'm dying to see the upgrades.
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Originally Posted by rollo View Post
I was in the arena last night and it looks awesome. All the seats are installed and the scoreboard is nothing short of Royal.

While I was there the staff was rehearsing the team entrance for pregame layup lines, etc... The cheerleaders were just in shorts and t-shirts but the funny part was the 'team' consisted of a bunch of 30-50 year old men who ran out of the locker room behind the cheerleaders just like the team and went straight to layup lines...really, really ugly layup lines. All the while the music was cranked up and highlight videos were playing as if it were gameday.

I can't imagine anyone complaining about the upgrades, but I'm sure we'll hear of a couple* by this time next week.
I predict the first complaint will be some people saying the sound system volume is too high. Hopefully they just offer those people some free earplugs instead of turning down the volume.
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I predict the first complaint will be some people saying the sound system volume is too high. Hopefully they just offer those people some free earplugs instead of turning down the volume.
I guess I'm one of those people. If you happen to sit in the upper arena, as soon as the pre-game sponsor commercials come on, the volume is doubled, then goes back down for the U. D. announcements and line-up. I hope they turn down the commercials.
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Originally Posted by rollo View Post
I was in the arena last night and it looks awesome. All the seats are installed and the scoreboard is nothing short of Royal.

While I was there the staff was rehearsing the team entrance for pregame layup lines, etc... The cheerleaders were just in shorts and t-shirts but the funny part was the 'team' consisted of a bunch of 30-50 year old men who ran out of the locker room behind the cheerleaders just like the team and went straight to layup lines...really, really ugly layup lines. All the while the music was cranked up and highlight videos were playing as if it were gameday.

I can't imagine anyone complaining about the upgrades, but I'm sure we'll hear of a couple* by this time next week.
Let me be the first to complain about the upgrades.....I won't be able to get there to experience it....waaah
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I guess I'm one of those people. If you happen to sit in the upper arena, as soon as the pre-game sponsor commercials come on, the volume is doubled, then goes back down for the U. D. announcements and line-up. I hope they turn down the commercials.
I know what you mean as I sat in the 2nd row of the 400's for one game last year, and my ears rung the rest of the week. I am willing to bet the new sound system is more balanced, more speakers, each on lower volume than just a few blasting away.
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You know what really grinds my gears? I go to a baseball game and they have to play something over the PA system at 110 db every 30 seconds. It's baseball. You're there to socialize. It's a pastime.

I expect a little more noise at a basketball game but if it takes the whole night for me to ask my buddy "how's the wife and kids" and get an answer because every 3rd word is interrupted by "Y'all ready for this?" then it's a bit much.
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Is one of the arena upgrades more powerful guns to blast the tee shirt giveaways into the 400 Section?
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Last time I talked to Neil about it the technology to even run the I75 board is antiquated and no longer supported (similar to the old game scores on the end zone boards inside the Arena). There were no specific funds to re-do it right away in the Arena reno, but were savings found during the process, it would be looked into.

Im sure Daktronics makes a solution for it. All it takes is someone with a large enough checkbook.

I agree about the acid-washed/painted concrete inside. Whatever they did or however they did it, it looks 100% better. The old concrete looked dark and dirty like a cell block on Alcatraz.
Chris, I was told that they fixed all of the "nicks" in the concrete then sprayed an epoxy. I was there the other day and got a sneak peek - looks awesome.
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Score boards at the ends with out of town scores

They look great. I like seeing a few of the stats they put on them during the game such as when someone is shooting foul shots and it is great to see scores of other games.

However one complaint. Why are they showing us scores of games that happened 48 hours prior? Everytime I looked up last night I was seeing the Michigan State score from Wednesday night. I realize not a lot was going on baskeball wise on a Friday night, but this is not the first time this season I have noticed it was like watching the history channel!
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Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan View Post
They look great. I like seeing a few of the stats they put on them during the game such as when someone is shooting foul shots and it is great to see scores of other games.

However one complaint. Why are they showing us scores of games that happened 48 hours prior? Everytime I looked up last night I was seeing the Michigan State score from Wednesday night. I realize not a lot was going on baskeball wise on a Friday night, but this is not the first time this season I have noticed it was like watching the history channel!
Totally agree. Last night, they were even putting up the score of VCU's previous game.
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The eldest of the million-heirs attends tOSU and is in their pep-band, so the Queen and I ventured to C-bus for our annual basketball game and the 5-minutes we actually get to see our son. The fact that it was Senior Day at the Schott and that tOSU Buckeyes are having a great and unexpected season gave me the hope/impression that this would be a great opportunity to compare My Arena to the Schott...who was I to know there really is no comparison. Let me explain:

Parking: We had a reserved parking pass so it was convenient and easy...for tOSU standards. FWIW, if you have a parking pass for UD, the worse spot is Golden compared to the vast majority of reserved spots at the Schott. WINNER: UD ARENA

Seating: We had some hoity-toity lower arena Huntington seats...last row (J) in a corner section behind the Rutgers bench. It's comparable to Row E of the wall-side 300s at UD. Everything is set so far back from the court that you don't feel like you're part of the game...just an observer. WINNER: UD ARENA

Food/Drinks: The choices at the Schott are amazing and everywhere. Anything you want is within 100 feet and no line was more than 2 minutes. It's amazing...but expensive. WINNER: tOSU

Game Experience: We had reserved parking, great seats and it was Senior Night. tOSU is ranked 16th and preseason was predicted 11th in the BIG so you'd think the place would be rocking. Nope. Everything is so Corporate that you can't help but feel like you're a prop as opposed to a fan. No passion in the crowd.

When Seniors were introduced (7:00 - 4:30 as the clock wound down) maybe, and this is a BIG maybe, the stadium was 20% full. It's f'in Senior night...your team is ranked...and the place is a mausoleum. Shocking. WINNER: UD ARENA

Pep Band: TOSU pep band and student section are separated...students behind the benches, band behind the baseline. No coordination between them at all...complete disconnect. Willie could teach tOSU a couple things about loosening the starched collar and having some fun. God Bless the UD Pep Band...they are Golden to My Arena! WINNER: DUH?! UD ARENA

Non-Game Entertainment: The Schott uses their big screens better than UD...very clever little things like zooming in on a fan and superimposing funny things like "show us your golf swing" or little bubble thoughts about pizza or cheerleaders(!!!!) keep things interesting. WINNER: tOSU

Leaving Arena/Getting on the Road: Despite private parking privileges, we were directed out and away from the highway that was maybe a couple hundred yards from our lot. We had to go 3 miles in the opposite direction to get on 315 adding about 18 minutes to our drive. We were 30 seconds from the closest on-ramp...leaving basketball games there is as bad as leaving a football game. I think C-lot and B-lot exiting is easy at UD Arena...Lot A is always a disaster...but not even close to as bad as leaving the Schott. WINNER: UD Arena

SENIOR NIGHT: tOSU will win this by a mile. After the game they brought out each senior and gave him the microphone to say a few words, and it was worth hearing how much these kids LOVE wearing OSU across their chest. Strangely enough, every senior had already graduated, including Bates-Diop who was honored despite being a junior. All the players were gracious and well spoken. The one and only change I'd like to see UD adopt from tOSU is to do the same thing on March 3rd...invite the fans to stay so they can hear our players thought's on their experiences playing for me...I mean us...I mean UD! I think it would be an eye opening touch of class for everyone. And for those who know me, I'm all about showing class!!! WINNER: tOSU


So what's my point of this thread? I hope the powers-at-be for the MyArena upgrades aren't trying to emulate what they may see at larger Universities or Arenas. UD Arena has it's flaws, but the experience you have at a meaningless games like St. Louis is 100X greater than what you'll ever experience at a huge game at tOSU. Imagine My Flyers coming out of nowhere to be ranked...imagine combining that with Senior Night...at tOSU you get an atmosphere void of anything except piped in noise and an announcer who likes to yell. At UD you get hoarse and drunk. WINNER: UD ARENA

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Appreciate the "full report" and I agree with just about everything you wrote compared to games I've attended there, especially in regard to parking, and the seating being so far removed from the action...even lower bowl. Many, many schools conduct their senior nights like OSU. I've been to several IU senior games and they have the players speak as well. BK started that while at IU and I believe other schools have emulated. Agree, and I wish UD would adopt it.

Something AG has done is have ALL players thank the Red Scare after shaking hands with the opponent...and for this reason the RS isn't making a bee-line to the buses once the horn sounds...or at the under-4 TO (like so many faithful...another story for another thread). It was coming up on 11pm last night and the players all rushed the RS and vice versa...last night...after a win over SLU...on a Tuesday...to improve their record to 13-14. Very cool.

As for OSU...it's all about football! Always has been, always will be!
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I was always impressed by the sound absorbing construction techniques used when they built the Schott. Amazing how quiet that building can be compared to UD Arena
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The OSU box score says attendance was 15,620. Sounded like 1,562.
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Everything Rollo is saying is spot on except maybe the traffic. It's much easier to go down Olentangy River Road and try to pick up 315 down the street versus getting on right by the Schott.

No beer/alcohol sales outside of the club seats too

Ohio State definitely regrets building a multipurpose arena
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Everything Rollo is saying is spot on except maybe the traffic. It's much easier to go down Olentangy River Road and try to pick up 315 down the street versus getting on right by the Schott.
We parked at the NR lot on Olentangy RR and because of the grass boulevard dividing East/West, we had to turn right...trust me, if I wasn't driving the Queen's Golden Chariot, I'd have 4-wheeled over the darn curb and gotten home in time to see the last 10 minutes of the UD game.
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It's in the shop getting an oil change and tire rotation.

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I was always impressed by the sound absorbing construction techniques used when they built the Schott. Amazing how quiet that building can be compared to UD Arena
Occasionally we have extra tix and we are always trying to infect friends with THE FEVER. This year we attended the Penn game with a dad and his 16 year old basketball son who go to osu games occassionally.

Personally I thought the arena was as dead and uneventful as any game in years. We lost and the team was struggling so quite somber inside. Both of them though just kept commenting on how great an atmosphere at the arena as compared to what they were used to.

We are spoiled no doubt. Hopefully the team will bounce back next year and add greatly to the experience.
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As an Ohio State Undergrad, I would joke with my other SW Ohio friends, that a great wall of Columbus existed around I-270 that prevented any radio or TV waves from penetrating Columbus Metro, as folks there, didn't even know Dayton, Xavier, and UC had basketball programs. It was disgusting and hard to digest; but that was late 80's and early 90's, no internet.

Back to the UD Arena, can someone provide info on how both the two major portions of the UD Arena Project Fundraising is going? What do the numbers look like as of now; and I am wondering how much, if any, this season has adversely impacted the fundraising/contribution feelings?

It does seem as if some things are being done out of order, in terms of traditional construction concepts; and I suspect that furthers my suspicion that at-least half of this project is more about the NCAA Tournament, than it is the Dayton Flyers. Which I completely object to!
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UD Arena has it's flaws, but the experience you have at a meaningless game like St. Louis is 100X greater than what you'll ever experience at a huge game at tOSU.
There is no such thing as a meaningless game at UD Arena.
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SENIOR NIGHT: The one and only change I'd like to see UD adopt from tOSU is to do the same thing on March 3rd...invite the fans to stay so they can hear our players thought's on their experiences playing for me...I mean us...I mean UD! I think it would be an eye opening touch of class for everyone. And for those who know me, I'm all about showing class!!! WINNER: tOSU
At the WBB ceremony on Sunday each of the seniors took to the microphone and addressed the crowd. This was in addition to their pre-recorded messages.
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It's in the shop getting an oil change and tire rotation.

Sucker. Don't pay for tire rotation. My tires are rotated for free every time I drive my car.
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Originally Posted by Beatty Town Coach View Post

Back to the UD Arena, can someone provide info on how both the two major portions of the UD Arena Project Fundraising is going? What do the numbers look like as of now; and I am wondering how much, if any, this season has adversely impacted the fundraising/contribution feelings?

It does seem as if some things are being done out of order, in terms of traditional construction concepts; and I suspect that furthers my suspicion that at-least half of this project is more about the NCAA Tournament, than it is the Dayton Flyers. Which I completely object to!
I have heard that a number of whales have stepped up big time to raise a significant portion of the cost. Add in the eventual seat license increase(which by the way hits the big donors the most),the enhanced concessions, the expanded suites, the additional club seats, the expanded events due to AC installation - all help pick up some of the cost.

How would you change the order of construction? If you cannot move to an alternate venue - as UC did to NKU this year - what would you change?

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Thank you for the update.

I was simply picking up on the concerns about when you install certain things, in terms of construction destruction. When you say move to another arena, you are largely changing the facts on me; or at-least on what UD did. They choose not to do that, and they got a late start following last season. Why the need for serious cost cutting, if the fundraising is going that well? I am not totally buying that!

Nor do I think UD needed a $72 million renovation. Half that perhaps; but there is no recruit in America who will see the remolded version and say wow, I just have to come here, as opposed to what they would have otherwise felt either prior to the renovation or without any renovation. Upgrading the lounge and flight deck and private box areas, will not "move" a recruit...not happening.

The sound and tech systems were upgraded largely due to the NCAA tournament issue. Again, I don't approve of the NCAA Tournament "Give Away Project" as the top priority of use of the building.

The renovations are happening, so I am not fighting or rejecting it, whatever it is, it is; but not completely necessary at this level.

And, to answer your question, no, you would never install and hang the video systems, or the lower bowl seats, without installing all of the upper arena seats at the same time. The mess will be horrific; and that's not exactly a great way to treat the already installed materials. Not to mention, there is some risk to damaging part of it.

Again, I appreciate the update and thoughts, but I am looking for a number or percentage of goal amounts fundraised to this point.
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Again, I appreciate the update and thoughts, but I am looking for a number or percentage of goal amounts fundraised to this point.
North of 50% of the cost of the upgrades has been fundraised.
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Has their ever been consideration to selling the naming rights to the Arena?
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Has their ever been consideration to selling the naming rights to the Arena?
I surely hope not!
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Why the need for serious cost cutting, if the fundraising is going that well? I am not totally buying that!
I must have missed something. What is the serious cost cutting?
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As an Ohio State Undergrad, I would joke with my other SW Ohio friends, that a great wall of Columbus existed around I-270 that prevented any radio or TV waves from penetrating Columbus Metro, as folks there, didn't even know Dayton, Xavier, and UC had basketball programs. It was disgusting and hard to digest; but that was late 80's and early 90's, no internet.

Back to the UD Arena, can someone provide info on how both the two major portions of the UD Arena Project Fundraising is going? What do the numbers look like as of now; and I am wondering how much, if any, this season has adversely impacted the fundraising/contribution feelings?

It does seem as if some things are being done out of order, in terms of traditional construction concepts; and I suspect that furthers my suspicion that at-least half of this project is more about the NCAA Tournament, than it is the Dayton Flyers. Which I completely object to!
Have attended many a tOSU FB games in the past. The Columbus AM radio coverage post-game extends out about 15 miles from their campus and faded to black. Must be part of the FCC radio frequency assignment and radiated power restrictions. Course they have a radio network but nothing outside the COL metro area for quite a few miles.

Anyway, I found some OSU folks clue less on what else about FB or BB other than tOSU world, just like the NY folks lacked any thought about anything west of the Hudson River
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Have attended many a tOSU FB games in the past. The Columbus AM radio coverage post-game extends out about 15 miles from their campus and faded to black. Must be part of the FCC radio frequency assignment and radiated power restrictions. Course they have a radio network but nothing outside the COL metro area for quite a few miles.

Anyway, I found some OSU folks clue less on what else about FB or BB other than tOSU world, just like the NY folks lacked any thought about anything west of the Hudson River
There's something north of the Bronx?
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Now lets compare UD Arena to other A10 arenas. Lets start with Fordham.
No you should start with LaSalle's Gym that has a pool below it and smells like chlorine. Fordham is a palace compared to that place.

LaSalle would kill to have Trent Arena in Kettering.
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Have attended many a tOSU FB games in the past. The Columbus AM radio coverage post-game extends out about 15 miles from their campus and faded to black. Must be part of the FCC radio frequency assignment and radiated power restrictions. Course they have a radio network but nothing outside the COL metro area for quite a few miles.

Anyway, I found some OSU folks clue less on what else about FB or BB other than tOSU world, just like the NY folks lacked any thought about anything west of the Hudson River
I have a son-in law that graduated from OSU. He is a huge fan but has little knowledge of anything outside the BIG or top10-15 FB schools. He often asks me how I know about smaller D-1, FCS, div II and III schools. Once when I told him I was going to the football Flyers game against the Hatters he thought I was nuts.
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No you should start with LaSalle's Gym that has a pool below it and smells like chlorine. Fordham is a palace compared to that place.

LaSalle would kill to have Trent Arena in Kettering.
Trent Arena wouldn't be in the four worst arenas in the A10
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Has their ever been consideration to selling the naming rights to the Arena?
Dyer Garofalo Mann & Schultz Arena
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Trent Arena wouldn't be in the four worst arenas in the A10
Trent arena is much nicer than Fordham and LaSalle.
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Has their ever been consideration to selling the naming rights to the Arena?
UD has been approached. About 20 years ago Iams (yep, the pet food company) inquired. Could you imagine the jokes with that one? Anyway, the UD response was they want to keep it as the University of Dayton Arena for recognition and marketing purposes.
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Nor do I think UD needed a $72 million renovation. Half that perhaps; but there is no recruit in America who will see the remolded version and say wow, I just have to come here, as opposed to what they would have otherwise felt either prior to the renovation or without any renovation. Upgrading the lounge and flight deck and private box areas, will not "move" a recruit...not happening.

The sound and tech systems were upgraded largely due to the NCAA tournament issue. Again, I don't approve of the NCAA Tournament "Give Away Project" as the top priority of use of the building.
I agree Beatty, sometimes I feel like UD would be better off if they never hosted another NCAAT game, whether it be the First Four, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round, ever again.

It sort of feels like UD focuses on hosting the doggone NCAAT more than it focuses on making sure that UD, itself, actually makes the NCAAT.

Return the focus to making UD better, and quit worrying about hosting the stupid NCAAT.

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I agree Beatty, sometimes I feel like UD would be better off if they never hosted another NCAAT game, whether it be the First Four, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round, ever again.

It sort of feels like UD focuses on hosting the doggone NCAAT more than it focuses on making sure that UD, itself, actually makes the NCAAT.

Return the focus to making UD better, and quit worrying about hosting the stupid NCAAT.
Hosting NCAAT games is part of UD's image and branding...no way in (udscott's mind*) that we'll ever give up on hosting anything and everything the NCAAT offers.
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I agree Beatty, sometimes I feel like UD would be better off if they never hosted another NCAAT game, whether it be the First Four, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round, ever again.

It sort of feels like UD focuses on hosting the doggone NCAAT more than it focuses on making sure that UD, itself, actually makes the NCAAT.

Return the focus to making UD better, and quit worrying about hosting the stupid NCAAT.
So who is focusing on the NCAAT games and not the men's bball team? Is Anthony Grant spending his time lining up sponsors for the First Four games?
What resources are being diverted from men's bball to the NCAAT? Are the bball team's charter planes being given to the NCAAT committee and forcing the Flyers to fly Allegany Airlines? I thought that the Flyers already weren't getting a good enough return given all the resources being devoted to men's bball. Is giving them even more going to fix that.

Among many things that p!ss me off is people that take pot shots at how other people do their jobs without really having a clue as to how things work. Then when confronted with facts just say they disagree.
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So who is focusing on the NCAAT games and not the men's bball team? Is Anthony Grant spending his time lining up sponsors for the First Four games?
What resources are being diverted from men's bball to the NCAAT? Are the bball team's charter planes being given to the NCAAT committee and forcing the Flyers to fly Allegany Airlines? I thought that the Flyers already weren't getting a good enough return given all the resources being devoted to men's bball. Is giving them even more going to fix that.

Among many things that p!ss me off is people that take pot shots at how other people do their jobs without really having a clue as to how things work. Then when confronted with facts just say they disagree.
Great post, but it is a waste of time responding to him. It's lke talking to a wall
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Hosting NCAA tournament games and making UD better are not mutually exclusive. I believe that making UD Arena "better" in order to fit NCAA tournament criteria helps with promoting UD basketball to recruits and thereby makes it better. Facilities are part of what attracts recruits.
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Don't forget that the NCAAT pours millions of dollars into the local economy which includes many businesses that are owned and staffed by UD grads. It brings awareness to UD, Dayton and the Miami Valley. All good things.

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So who is focusing on the NCAAT games and not the men's bball team? Is Anthony Grant spending his time lining up sponsors for the First Four games?
What resources are being diverted from men's bball to the NCAAT? Are the bball team's charter planes being given to the NCAAT committee and forcing the Flyers to fly Allegany Airlines? I thought that the Flyers already weren't getting a good enough return given all the resources being devoted to men's bball. Is giving them even more going to fix that.

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You know what I am going to say: we are always crying poor about how we can not afford to play a 15/15, but yet we now have millions of extra dollars to fund an arena improvement? How about using the money to upgrade the schedule instead, something that more directly benefits the men's basketball program, instead of answering to the NCAA.
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You know what I am going to say: we are always crying poor about how we can not afford to play a 15/15, but yet we now have millions of extra dollars to fund an arena improvement? How about using the money to upgrade the schedule instead, something that more directly benefits the men's basketball program, instead of answering to the NCAA.
And how many f'n times do you have to be told that UDs scheduling is the least of the f'n problem. It was quite successful over the last 4 years to the point it got us in the NCAAT.

Also, others - with a strong understanding of what goes on - have told you that the world has changed and it is not as easy as you think to schedule the games you think UD should be able to schedule. Conferences playing more conference games. More interconference games like the Big10/ACC challenge.

No, you think you have the answers. It does matter that people that really know what they are talking about tell you, you are wrong. You just disagree. If you are really so f'n smart, what the he!! are you doing spending your time on message boards with other dummies like me?

Now go over udscott's house. I hear his mom just took out some pizza rolls out of the oven.
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UD has been approached. About 20 years ago Iams (yep, the pet food company) inquired. Could you imagine the jokes with that one? Anyway, the UD response was they want to keep it as the University of Dayton Arena for recognition and marketing purposes.
Smart move.
I don't think they should do it but I'd curious how much value that would have
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UD has been approached. About 20 years ago Iams (yep, the pet food company) inquired. Could you imagine the jokes with that one? Anyway, the UD response was they want to keep it as the University of Dayton Arena for recognition and marketing purposes.
Smart move.
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I don't think they should do it but I'd curious how much value that would have
Couldn't it be named something like the Iams University of Dayton Arena?
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How about using the money to upgrade the schedule instead
You are saying that the #2 most difficult non-conference schedule is too soft and needs upgraded?
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Couldn't it be named something like the Iams University of Dayton Arena?
Iams University? That what it sounds like.
THE University of Dayton Arena sounds so much better.
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You are saying that the #2 most difficult non-conference schedule is too soft and needs upgraded?
I think what he's saying and I think there's a reasonable argument for it, that Dayton should play one more H/H series, neutral court game

It's great that Wagner, Penn and Georgia State were good. It helps the RPI but the committee has shown over the years and especially this year with the quadrant system that needle moving wins over a P5/Big East program (or any elite team) carry way more weight with them

Middle Tennessee St is 23rd in the RPI and a bubble team. St Bonaventure got left out with a really high RPI a couple years ago.
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Couldn't it be named something like the Iams University of Dayton Arena?
First we have the 'VD' logo controversy and now you want to start it over again with 'IUD' naming rights?

Oh, the humanity...
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Funny you posted that Rollo. I checked out the video and some of the scoreboard pics.

With all the controversy when the VD logo was rolled out... it seems mostly forgotten and the mind doesn't go "there" as easily or as much. I think it looks awesome personally!

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I think what he's saying and I think there's a reasonable argument for it, that Dayton should play one more H/H series, neutral court game

It's great that Wagner, Penn and Georgia State were good. It helps the RPI but the committee has shown over the years and especially this year with the quadrant system that needle moving wins over a P5/Big East program (or any elite team) carry way more weight with them

Middle Tennessee St is 23rd in the RPI and a bubble team. St Bonaventure got left out with a really high RPI a couple years ago.
May I point out that the quadrant system is RPI based? You can see the quadrant breakdown on the UDPride RPI. The quadrant system is independent of conference affiliation. Now, I will agree that some folks - including the committee - have a P5 bias that at times supersedes the raw data.

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May I point out that the quadrant system is RPI based? You can see the quadrant breakdown on the UDPride RPI. The quadrant system is independent of conference affiliation. Now, I will agree that some folks - including the committee - have a P5 bias that at times supersedes the raw data.
If you want a Quadrant 1 win you've got a far, far greater chance of getting one in a H/H series, a one off road game or a neutral game than a home buy game.

To get a Quadrant 1 win off of a buy game, they'd have to be a top 30 or better RPI team. Which is unheard of

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Funny you posted that Rollo. I checked out the video and some of the scoreboard pics.

With all the controversy when the VD logo was rolled out... it seems mostly forgotten and the mind doesn't go "there" as easily or as much. I think it looks awesome personally!

(I wasn' t so sure upon the initial release)
Just think if they had naming rights as Iam's and the players had to have little "IUD" pins on the uni's!
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I think what he's saying and I think there's a reasonable argument for it, that Dayton should play one more H/H series, neutral court game

It's great that Wagner, Penn and Georgia State were good. It helps the RPI but the committee has shown over the years and especially this year with the quadrant system that needle moving wins over a P5/Big East program (or any elite team) carry way more weight with them

Middle Tennessee St is 23rd in the RPI and a bubble team. St Bonaventure got left out with a really high RPI a couple years ago.
Yes, but those schools got left out because their SOS was crap. When you have the #2 non-con SOS you certainly dont have that problem. Of course you have to win most of those games.
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Yes, but those schools got left out because their SOS was crap. When you have the #2 non-con SOS you certainly don’t have that problem. Of course you have to win most of those games.
"Non-conference SOS is not a predominant tool in selections."

"In fact, each year that I have been on the committee, we have discussed why you have to look beyond the number to evaluate a team's non-conference strength of schedule, and even with this qualifier, non-conference schedule ranks well behind other factors such as how you did against other tournament caliber teams, did you win the games you were supposed to win, and how did you do away from home since winning away from home is difficult and the tournament games are all games away from home.

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under the current criteria you need Quad 1 wins. Virtually impossible to get from a buy game. Possible to get from a H/H series, road or neutral game
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Originally Posted by Flyer 86 View Post
Funny you posted that Rollo. I checked out the video and some of the scoreboard pics.

With all the controversy when the VD logo was rolled out... it seems mostly forgotten and the mind doesn't go "there" as easily or as much. I think it looks awesome personally!

(I wasn' t so sure upon the initial release)
VD is more of a term from the 70's 80's 90's. Most people today relate to STD's or in our case - STuD
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under the current criteria you need Quad 1 wins. Virtually impossible to get from a buy game. Possible to get from a H/H series, road or neutral game
You said it in another thread. This quadrant thing takes dead aim at the top major programs not in the BE/P5. Programs like the top of the A10, MVC, MW, AAC. Makes it that much harder to get an at large. Not enough chances in conference and even another H/H is not going to move the needle that much.
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I think the way to look at the situation of losing a buy game (aside from the obvious financial impact) is whether or not one game is going to have a significant impact on the tournament profile.

It's worth thinking about
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Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
I think the way to look at the situation of losing a buy game (aside from the obvious financial impact) is whether or not one game is going to have a significant impact on the tournament profile.

It's worth thinking about
Definitely worth thinking about. I said it somewhere else, things keep changing so you need to keep looking at it. It still is hard to find those quality H/H's.
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