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Old 06-07-2018, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
We are in the top 25 nationally in terms of men's basketball finances, I don't understand your point of view.

How can we not afford something better? You seem to be saying that we are too poor in order to be able to afford something better.

Every time some website analyzes men's basketball finances nationally, we are always in the top 25.
Not poor at all. It was in response to the 15-15 model with UD going on the road for a big boy versus them getting the home revenue.

UD has to obtain the financial numbers and the lack of a home game, or two, cuts into that.
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Did I miss something? We just came off a season where our non-con SOS was 2nd in the entire country. Just imagine the complaints if we were 5th in the country.
Take an honest look at our schedule and tell me that's a top 3 SOS in the country. There's a major flaw in the math if what we had last year was top 3.
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Whatcha smokin Buster.


http://www.secsports.com/standings/mens-basketball
My bad, I mixed them up with Alabama. Alabama, another boring team we seem to play every 2-3 years.
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How many games did you attend at the Arena last season?
2: URI and VCU, the only two games that remotely interested me.
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Originally Posted by Buster Goode View Post
Take an honest look at our schedule and tell me that's a top 3 SOS in the country. There's a major flaw in the math if what we had last year was top 3.
Our KenPom NC SOS based on final season results was #118. My guess is the "3" was our NC SOS tallied before the conference schedule began.

Of the top 20 NC SOS, only 3 were not mid or low majors: Temple (7), UNC (16), Tennessee (20). The rest played a ton of "buy" games away from home.

Here's all the A10 NC SOS according to KenPom:
Richmond - 34
URI - 64
LaSalle - 93
St. Joe's - 94
UD - 118
Davidson - 121
St Bon - 127
VCU - 128
SLU - 134
GW - 153
UMass - 259
GM - 279
Fordham - 313
Duquesne - 350 (out of 351, only Georgetown had worse NC SOS)
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The #3 (actually #2) ranking comes from UD's non conference rpi SOS per UDPride. Certainly you can argue that KenPom is a better metric, but that is where it is coming from, for whatever its worth.
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Anyone complaining about our schedule should look at URI's lol

Home: Bryant, Brown, Stony Brook, Harvard and Middle Tennessee State
Away: Providence, Charleston, Holy Cross
Neutral: WVU, Diamond Head Classic

Alabama home game moved to next year and Nevada opted out of the road game to the Ryan Center

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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Anyone complaining about our schedule should look at URI's lol

Home: Bryant, Brown, Stony Brook, Harvard and Middle Tennessee State
Away: Providence, Charleston, Holy Cross
Neutral: WVU, Diamond Head Classic

Alabama home game moved to next year and Nevada opted out of the road game to the Ryan Center

Woof!
I would be heated if Nevada did that to us
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I would be heated if Nevada did that to us
I would too... but that's on URI for giving them the option to do that
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
I would too... but that's on URI for giving them the option to do that
I would think all home-and-home contracts are built like that. Why wouldn't they be?

It's no different than coaching contracts that have a buy-out which is paid by the coaches new team (basically), and the opportunity for a home-and-home with that team, unless that team is one of 3 dream jobs for a coach.

I think it's more interesting in that Nevada opted out at all. Weren't we just talking about Quad 1/2 wins, road victories, and the sort, and Nevada bailed out on one. (possibly, URI has new coach and graduated a lot) Is Nevada afraid of losing to URI? Afraid of URI not being a Quad 1/2? That's where the story is here. Why did Nevada buy out URI?
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I would think all home-and-home contracts are built like that. Why wouldn't they be?

It's no different than coaching contracts that have a buy-out which is paid by the coaches new team (basically), and the opportunity for a home-and-home with that team, unless that team is one of 3 dream jobs for a coach.

I think it's more interesting in that Nevada opted out at all. Weren't we just talking about Quad 1/2 wins, road victories, and the sort, and Nevada bailed out on one. (possibly, URI has new coach and graduated a lot) Is Nevada afraid of losing to URI? Afraid of URI not being a Quad 1/2? That's where the story is here. Why did Nevada buy out URI?
They were supposed to play at Davidson this year too but they pushed that series back to 19/20

I haven't been able to find a reason but I wonder if it might have something to do with staying out west. Vegas, LA and Phoenix looks like the only place they're traveling to so far
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Anyone complaining about our schedule should look at URI's lol

Home: Bryant, Brown, Stony Brook, Harvard and Middle Tennessee State
Away: Providence, Charleston, Holy Cross
Neutral: WVU, Diamond Head Classic

Alabama home game moved to next year and Nevada opted out of the road game to the Ryan Center

Woof!
Why is this such a bad schedule? WVU, Providence, Harvard, MTSU. I'd take that in a heartbeat. Plus you get at least another decent game at the Diamond Head. Charleston had a RPI in the 60s last year and Stony Brook is usually decent.

Have you some some insider knowledge about why our schedule will be better than this?
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Why is this such a bad schedule? WVU, Providence, Harvard, MTSU. I'd take that in a heartbeat. Plus you get at least another decent game at the Diamond Head. Charleston had a RPI in the 60s last year and Stony Brook is usually decent.

Have you some some insider knowledge about why our schedule will be better than this?
I'd yell Fire Sullivan if that was our schedule... But that's just me lol
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Originally Posted by Figgie123 View Post
I would think all home-and-home contracts are built like that. Why wouldn't they be?

It's no different than coaching contracts that have a buy-out which is paid by the coaches new team (basically), and the opportunity for a home-and-home with that team, unless that team is one of 3 dream jobs for a coach.

I think it's more interesting in that Nevada opted out at all. Weren't we just talking about Quad 1/2 wins, road victories, and the sort, and Nevada bailed out on one. (possibly, URI has new coach and graduated a lot) Is Nevada afraid of losing to URI? Afraid of URI not being a Quad 1/2? That's where the story is here. Why did Nevada buy out URI?
I found these tweets from the Nevada beat writer


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Cost to Nevada to buy out the Rhode Island game was $50,000. So the Wolf Pack basically bought a home game against a Top 25 team last year for $50,000


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I also can understand why Nevada did it but old saying does comes to mind. “If you play with fire....

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I don't think that was the original plan, but the Sweet 16 run opened other scheduling opportunities and URI shouldn't have agreed to a $50K buyout. Industry standard is $100K. I can see it from both sides. Nevada fans won't be happy if USC, for example, bails next year.
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Considering it cost Nevada $85K to buy a home game vs. Idaho last season, this was a shrewd move. Davidson was smart enough to make the buyout $100K.

Who is replacing URI?


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There is no one specific game that replaces it. It just opened up the schedule for different opportunities. Road game at USC (with a return game at Nevada next year) possible because of move. Some neutral-site games also possible as a result of the move.
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
I'd yell Fire Sullivan if that was our schedule... But that's just me lol
I'm still confused by this so I did all the numbers (end of season RPI):

MTSU - 30
Harvard - 120
Providence - 36
Charleston - 61
WVU - 24

Brown, Bryant and Holy Cross are RPI tankers, but at least Holy Cross is a road game. The Diamond Head will have some nice RPI games: TCU (28), Colorado (84), and SMC (46). Hawaii and UNLV should be better next year too.

I agree this isn't a phenomenal non-con, but compared to SO many schools problems scheduling outside of conference, attacking this seems rather nit picky.
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I'm still confused by this so I did all the numbers (end of season RPI):

MTSU - 30
Harvard - 120
Providence - 36
Charleston - 61
WVU - 24

Brown, Bryant and Holy Cross are RPI tankers, but at least Holy Cross is a road game. The Diamond Head will have some nice RPI games: TCU (28), Colorado (84), and SMC (46). Hawaii and UNLV should be better next year too.

I agree this isn't a phenomenal non-con, but compared to SO many schools problems scheduling outside of conference, attacking this seems rather nit picky.

Yeah. Not sure how that's worse than ours.
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So H & H with SLU, UMASS, URI, VCU and Duquesne? That's about as good as we could hope for I would think.
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So H & H with SLU, UMASS, URI, VCU and Duquesne? That's about as good as we could hope for I would think.
I'd prefer H&Hs with SLU, URI, VCU, SBU and Davidson.
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I'd prefer H&Hs with SLU, URI, VCU, SBU and Davidson.
I prefer Duquesne and UMass so everyone can shut up about we should have got Dambrot or McCall lol
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I'd like to actually beat UMass this year...

St. Louis, Rhode Island, VCU all likely to be top 1/3 of A10 next year, so a solid schedule in my opinion. Plus, I like having LaSalle (terrible gym) and St. Joe's (best team?) at home, and only playing Fordham once (wish it was zero times) as well.
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I'd like to actually beat UMass this year...

St. Louis, Rhode Island, VCU all likely to be top 1/3 of A10 next year, so a solid schedule in my opinion. Plus, I like having LaSalle (terrible gym) and St. Joe's (best team?) at home, and only playing Fordham once (wish it was zero times) as well.
Yes. Let’s start with point Number one on this post. Beat UMass! If I were a betting man, I would expect that game at Saint Bonaventure to be one of the ESPN Friday night games. Same goes for one of the Rhode Island matchup’s . We shall see though.
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