How are we going to finish?

[San Diego Flyer]

It seems like we rarely finish the season really strong in the last 6/7 games. With a 3 game winning streak against marginal talent we do have some momentum. Mainly we showed we are learning how to finish games.

Here's our last 7 opponents:

URI 138 RPI (home)
LaS 91 (home)

At Duq 208
At SJU 46

UMass 11 (home)

At SLU 18

Rich 45 (home)


Trends point to 2 or 3 out of 4 home games and 1 or 2 of 3 away games.

I think we are looking at a 4-3 finish and 20-11 for the season, 8-8 league.

What does anyone else think?

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[steve]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer It seems like we rarely finish the season really strong in the last 6/7 games. With a 3 game winning streak against marginal talent we do have some momentum. Mainly we showed we are learning how to finish games. Here's our last 7 opponents: URI 138 RPI (home) LaS 91 (home) At Duq 208 At SJU 46 UMass 11 (home) At SLU 18 Rich 45 (home) Trends point to 2 or 3 out of 4 home games and 1 or 2 of 3 away games. I think we are looking at a 4-3 finish and 20-11 for the season, 8-8 league. What does anyone else think?

Based on what I saw saturday the last 5 minutes of the game saturday, I'm going with 5-2 (and really really close to 6-1), for a 9-7 record, 21-10 record..

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Avid Flyer]

My head agrees with SDF and my heart with Steve.

The seniors have stepped up their game realizing it is slipping away fast. Like to believe they will us to win with a winning A-10 record and an A-10 tourney championship. But what I like and reality may not be the same.

Bring it home guys.

[Buster Goode]

Would really like to go 6-1 out, but that's way too clean living and we are the Dayton Flyers for chrissakes. 5-2 is definitely attainable....that's today's guess for me.

21-10

Loss to SLU and one other surprise stupid loss (UD remember)

Will beat UMass and SJU

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[San Diego Flyer]

With 4 teams having better RPI's than UD, and two of those on the road, then throw in UMass sitting at #11 in RPI, I have a hard time rationalizing only two losses.

But then, we are a good road team and we seem to be on the upswing. But 6-1? Think DMO would have to jump into a Negele Knight bodysuit. And the 5th year Seniors would have to play like it in all the wins. Could happen, but at what odds?

2 cents.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[AC91]

If the team from Maui and December and the last 3 games show up, no reason to think we can't go at least 5-2. I know lots of ifs but i believe the team gets it now and they are over the mid season swoon so to speak. yes, everything is tinted a little red and blue for me, but at the same time this team has also shown what it is capable of so it's not a complete pipe dream.

[Alberto Strasse]

Let me begin by saying the Flyers are 3 games behind my preseason prediction of 12-4 in conference and 24-7 overall. That being said from here on out I think they will beat Rhode Island, LaSalle, Duquesne, UMASS and Richmond and lose to SJU and SLU. That would leave UD at 9-7 in the conference and 21-10 overall. That will not IMHO qualify as an at-large entry into the NCAA. If they beat SJU or SLU to get to 10-6 they may qualify.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[rollo]

Atlantic 10..........Conference........Overall............. .....senior point production
.................................................. ...................Oliver + Kav + Sibert + Sanford
Saint Louis..... 9-0 ...............22-2....................... 21 Loss
GW................7-2 .............. 19-4....................... 49 Win
VCU.............. 7-2 .............. 19-5 ...................... 35 Loss
UMass .......... 6-3 .............. 19-4 ...................... ______
St Joe's ..........6-3 ............. 16-7 ...................... 46 Loss
Richmond........5-3 ............. 15-8 ...................... 45 Loss
Dayton ......... 4-5 .............. 16-8 .....................
La Salle ........ 4-5 ............. 12-11 .................... ______
St. Bonnie .... 3-6 .............. 13-10 ................... 47 Win
Rhode Island.. 2-7 ............. 11-13 ................... 45 Loss
Duquesne ...... 2-7 ............ 10-12 ................... _______
Fordham ....... 2-7 .............. 9-13 ................... 39 Win
G Mason ....... 1-8 .............. 8-15 ................... 56 Win

Oliver is doing his part in the A10 (12.2 ppg) and Sibert is at 11.6 (but 15.5 last 4). Sanford is up and down (10.3 A10 but 14.7 last 3 wins) and Kavs is at 7.5 ppg.

In other words, (ignoring St. Louis) the upperclassmen are doing their part and we really can't expect much more out of them.

Which implies that our post-season hopes fall on the shoulders of our freshman and sophomores!

[San Diego Flyer]

Looking at it from a more subjective view, I think our fortunes are dependent upon our continuing improvement in team defense, and our ability to close out close games no matter who is in the lineup.

[UD90]

Pomeroy says 21-10 based on game by game, but 20-11 based on percentages.

Wed Feb 12 130 Rhode Island W, 74-65 64 83% Home ×
Wed Feb 19 98 La Salle W, 72-65 63 78% Home ×
Sat Feb 22 187 Duquesne W, 81-75 67 70% Away ×
Tue Feb 25 76 Saint Joseph's L, 71-70 64 43% Away ×
Sat Mar 1 38 Massachusetts W, 76-74 69 58% Home ×
Wed Mar 5 20 Saint Louis L, 71-63 66 18% Away ×
Sat Mar 8 69 Richmond W, 70-65 63 71% Home ×
Projected record: 20-11 8-8

I really believe we finish 21-10. If so we need to win 2 games in the A10 tourney and our schedule strength and Top 50 wins will get us in. Need to beat Richmond and probably SJU. Could afford to lose to UMASS, LaSalle, or SLU, but only 2 more losses.

Let's just get past URI. That game always scares me. I think we are back to playing better than Pomeroy predicts.

I like our chances down the stretch if we can get by URI.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[TerryK_67]

We'll have a pretty good idea if we are back to the Maui team, or the IPFW team, about 7:15 tomorrow night! If we don't put RI away quickly, it could not end well.....
GO FLYERS!

[Figgie123]

This is why you don't do stats...

Originally Posted by rollo Atlantic 10..........Conference........Overall............. .....senior point production .................................................. ...................Oliver + Kav + Sibert + Sanford St Joe's ..........6-3 ............. 16-7 ...................... 46 Loss Richmond........5-3 ............. 15-8 ...................... 45 Loss

St Joe's : 45 (MK:2, DO:16, VS:6, JS:21)
Richmond: 15 (DO:2, VS:6, JS:7, MK: DNP)

Figgie

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[westchesterflyer]

7 - 1 the rest of the way. Losing @ SLU.

More Kool Aid, please.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Viperstick]

4-3.

8-8 is like a magnet for us.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by Figgie123 This is why you don't do stats... St Joe's : 45 (MK:2, DO:16, VS:6, JS:21) Richmond: 15 (DO:2, VS:6, JS:7, MK: DNP) Figgie

King Figgie has spoken and, yes, I should have used the UD website...

Which just goes to show that Figgie can teach me a few things about stats and I can teach him more about being Royale.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[Sea Bass]

I have no idea having watched this team all year. I take it one at a time as hoping for a bright future from the Flyers is like asking to get kicked in the nuts.

From Vegas Vacation speaking to Clark

Marty: You don't know when to quit, do ya Griswold?... Here's an idea: Why don't you give me half the money your were gonna to bet, then we'll go out back, I'll kick you in the nuts, and we'll call it a day!

[Avid Flyer]

Originally Posted by westchesterflyer 7 - 1 the rest of the way. Losing @ SLU. More Kool Aid, please.

I'll take the Kool Aid as my chaser; after a little Jack....

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[IAFlyer]

I think we lose @SLU, @SJU, and UMass.
Most likely 4-3 and that lovely 8-8 in conference.

However, losing another at home is not out of the question for a 7-9 record.

I think we have some momentum on our side and Wed night will tell us if we really have a shot at something better than 4-3 down the stretch.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[BRob2Perryman3]

Originally Posted by Alberto Strasse Let me begin by saying the Flyers are 3 games behind my preseason prediction of 12-4 in conference and 24-7 overall. That being said from here on out I think they will beat Rhode Island, LaSalle, Duquesne, UMASS and Richmond and lose to SJU and SLU. That would leave UD at 9-7 in the conference and 21-10 overall. That will not IMHO qualify as an at-large entry into the NCAA. If they beat SJU or SLU to get to 10-6 they may qualify.

Agree 100%. 10-6 requires 1 Brooklyn win and 9-7 requires 2 Brooklyn wins

[rollo]

Look at the standings (and ignore the stats)...we haven't beaten the anyone that would give us any confidence that 10-6 or 9-7 is realistic. The GW win was about timing, not talent...the rest of the wins are against the bottom-feeders.

With that said, I still think we'll beat UMass at home and can pull off 9-7...and another NIT bid.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[UD90]

http://www.rpiforecast.com/cgi-bin/rpiwizard.cgi

I ran two different scenarios.

In all Scenarios we MUST win the next 3 games. If we don't then it is likely NIT.

Assumes record will end up at 21-10

Scenario 1: Win at home. Lose on the road
RPI 46 SOS 58

Probably adds one Top 50 win and one Top 25 win.

Scenario 2: Beat SJU and Richmond
RPI 47 SOS 57

Probably adds one Top 50 win and 2 Top 25 losses.

Either of those gives us a resume that is worthy of one of the last four bids. Win 1-2 more in the A10 tourney and I think we are in.

Crazy Scenario - only lose at SJU - Somehow beat SLU (GMU nearly did) 22-9 RPI 40 SOS 57

BUT I AM GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF -> THE NEXT 3 ARE MUST WINS.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[springborofan]

I know I'm in the minority here but I think 9-7 with 1 A10 tournament win gets us on the right side of the bubble. The RPI would be below 50 with a very good top 25/50/100 wins along with a strong away/neutral record compared to the others that will be on the bubble.

To get to 9-7 means another top 100 win along with 2 additional top 50 wins (maybe even a top 25 win against UMass).

UD SOS for the last 7 games is much better than the first 24 and should push the season SOS down to sub 60. That's the good news. Now, to Rollo's point that is also the bad news. Going 5-2 will be a tall order for this team.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[springborofan]

Thanks UD90. My post was a hunch but I think validated my hunch.

[udflyerhoops2]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d-hDl6OALv4

Caution...there's a bad word in there.

[UD90]

Originally Posted by springborofan Thanks UD90. My post was a hunch but I think validated my hunch.

No problem. Our conference is the best it has ever been as far as RPI goes.

This should further validate your hunch.

http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24667

9-7 puts us is a good spot (Provided we win the next 3). Beat URI!

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by westchesterflyer 7 - 1 the rest of the way. Losing @ SLU. More Kool Aid, please.

Your euphoria got the best of you. It's either 7-0, or 6-1. We only have 7 games left on the schedule.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[westchesterflyer]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer Your euphoria got the best of you. It's either 7-0, or 6-1. We only have 7 games left on the schedule.

It"s that da**ed Kool Aid!

[hawkoooo]

Agree that 9-7 and one tournament win might be enough, but, that will depend on who we draw the first game and who we lose to in the second.

[steve]

Originally Posted by springborofan I know I'm in the minority here but I think 9-7 with 1 A10 tournament win gets us on the right side of the bubble. The RPI would be below 50 with a very good top 25/50/100 wins along with a strong away/neutral record compared to the others that will be on the bubble. To get to 9-7 means another top 100 win along with 2 additional top 50 wins (maybe even a top 25 win against UMass). UD SOS for the last 7 games is much better than the first 24 and should push the season SOS down to sub 60. That's the good news. Now, to Rollo's point that is also the bad news. Going 5-2 will be a tall order for this team.

Pretty much impossible to really determine this. If a few, as happens every year, teams step up and win their auto bid by winning their conf. tourney or a couple other teams similar to UD's fate win three games to get to their tourney final then that could really dampen things for a bubble team like UD..

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[IAFlyer]

Originally Posted by springborofan I know I'm in the minority here but I think 9-7 with 1 A10 tournament win gets us on the right side of the bubble. The RPI would be below 50 with a very good top 25/50/100 wins along with a strong away/neutral record compared to the others that will be on the bubble. To get to 9-7 means another top 100 win along with 2 additional top 50 wins (maybe even a top 25 win against UMass). UD SOS for the last 7 games is much better than the first 24 and should push the season SOS down to sub 60. That's the good news. Now, to Rollo's point that is also the bad news. Going 5-2 will be a tall order for this team.

We've been left out with an RPI in the 30s (maybe even 20s). Being a little below 50 does not help us because we are not in a BCS football conference.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[Medford]

When they finished in the 30s, I believe the had either a .500 conference record, perhaps even a 7-9 conference record. I know injuries and what not piled up (I think that was Wright's freshman season when he missed all but (2) A-10 games w/ the foot injury, plus you had a multi-game injury to Little and some illness issues with Marcus Johnson), but I don't care what your rpi is, if you can't get above .500 in the A-10, you haven't made a particular strong case to be an at large team. If the flyers are to get their rpi into the 40-50 range, they're going to have to finish the season at least 9-7. The A-10 is also stronger this season than it was the year UD missed out, so going +.500 is a huge advantage resume wise for this squad over that squad. Remember there was no garuntee Wright would be back for the NCAA, I know he missed the first NIT game, if not the first 2.

[Windy City Flyer]

There is really no reason to talk about Bubble until and if we win the next three games -URI, LaSalle, and Duquense. URI is coming off three straight losses including one to Fordham. Their last win is against UD 3 weeks ago. It would be great to bury them early.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[springborofan]

If the flyers lose tonight I'm steering clear of this board. It will be a complete meltdown.

[Medford]

^^^ that is certainly true, any bubble talk begins and ends with winning the next 3. However, its much more fun to dream this discussion than what we were discussing 3 games ago.

I have my doubts they can go 5-2, 6-1 or 7-0 down the stretch to put them in position, but at least I have something to look forward to tonight. Then again, it is Rhody, I expect them to heave a half court shot while falling out of bounds with the refs trying to block their shot at the buzzer hit the backboard, the front of the rim, the backboard again, front of the rim, roll around the rim for about 100 seconds then fall thru as a gentle breeze blows into the arena from a fan opening up the doors to beat traffic to beat the Flyers by 1 point. History has told me that Rhody will do the Flyers dirty, I don't see why tonight will be any different.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[JimBo]

Originally Posted by Windy City Flyer There is really no reason to talk about Bubble until and if we win the next three games

This is where I'm at. I'm not even contemplating the possibility of any kind of postseason tournament. I'm still not convinced that this current 3 game streak doesn't have more to do with the level of competition the team has played. We beat two teams below us in the standings, and one team at the top who was seriously depleted due to injuries. These next three games should be expected wins,. The last 4 games will tell us if they are postseason worthy.

One game at a time.

[Viperstick]

Originally Posted by springborofan I know I'm in the minority here but I think 9-7 with 1 A10 tournament win gets us on the right side of the bubble. The RPI would be below 50 with a very good top 25/50/100 wins along with a strong away/neutral record compared to the others that will be on the bubble. To get to 9-7 means another top 100 win along with 2 additional top 50 wins (maybe even a top 25 win against UMass). UD SOS for the last 7 games is much better than the first 24 and should push the season SOS down to sub 60. That's the good news. Now, to Rollo's point that is also the bad news. Going 5-2 will be a tall order for this team.

Respectfully disagree. Believe we need to finish in the top four in conference to have a realistic chance at an at large. We currently sit tied for 7th with LaSalle. We have the obvious cream of the crop (SLU) far ahead of us, along with several other teams two or more games ahead who have tourney resumes as good or better than us (VCU, UMASS, GW, SJU), and another outlier with a comparable record (Richmond). While we've beaten one of those (GW), and have a crack at four of the others, I just don't see us finishing better than 6th or 7th. Looking at RealTimeRPI projections, let's look at each to see how practical it is to get to top four in the league:

- SLU (21-2; 9-0): VCU, @GM, GW, DUQ, @VCU, DAY, @UMASS--projection: 26-4; 14-2 (1st)
- VCU (19-5; 7-2): GW, @SLU, @UMASS, @FORD, SLU, @RICH, SBU--projection: 23-8; 11-5 (T-2nd)
- UMASS (19-4; 6-3): GM, @GW, VCU, RI, @DAY, @DUQ, SLU--projection: 24-6; 11-5 (T-2nd)
- GW (19-4; 7-2): @VCU, UMASS, @RICH, @SLU, GM, SJU, @FORD--projection: 23-7; 11-5 (T-2nd)
- RICH (15-8; 5-3): @DUQ, FORD, GW, LAS, @GM, @RI, VCU, @DAY--projection: 21-10; 11-5 (T-2nd)
- SJU (16-7; 6-3): @LAS, @RI, FORD, DAY, @SBU, @GW, LAS--projection: 19-11; 9-7 (T-6th)
- DAY (16-8; 4-5): RI, LAS, @DUQ, @SJU, UMASS, @SLU, RICH--projection: 21-10; 9-7 (T-6th)

Projections assume a UD loss at SJU, which would put us in 7th in the league. The NCAA has never taken the 7th place team from the A-10 for an at large. Couple that fact with the warts on our resume (ISU, USC, URI) that teams above us in league do not have (at least not three), and I think we are going to be hard pressed to get an at large with anything less than a top four finish. That will require going 7-0 the rest of the way. Even a 6-1 finish (losing only at SLU), with everything else going as projected in league, would only put us in 6th place in league (jumping ahead of SJU). I just don't see us dancing via an at large this year.

This is why you can't keep hitting the snooze alarm when conference play starts.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by IAFlyer (maybe even 20s)

I doubt that. If my memory serves me, I believe the lowest RPI ever left out was Missouri State at 21. I think that was the only team ever snubbed with an RPI under 30. An RPI inside the top-30 is a virtual, if not an actual, lock.

[rollo]

[udflyerfan]

7 losses in a row to Rhody...........ouch

http://www.providencejournal.com/spo...s-grounded.ece

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[hawkoooo]

Thanks Rollo. I knew the #29 in my original post came from somewhere, just got it confused with Missouri State's historical snub at 21. Point being it is extremely unlikely to be left out with a sub-50 RPI.

[longtimefan]

I don't think we have to finish in the top 4 in the conference standings to get an at-large, but I think we need at least 23 wins. 9-7 and 2 wins in the A-10 tourney would probably be enough. Getting 2 wins and making the semis of the tourney should do it and could be considered "top 4," jumping us over a couple teams that finished ahead of us in the standings.

[Viperstick]

I just hope Archie is telling the team that to dance they need to win the A-10 tourney, because that's much more realistic than finishing 6th or worse in the A-10 and hoping for the best.

[JimBo]

Originally Posted by Viperstick I just hope Archie is telling the team that to dance they need to win the A-10 tourney, because that's much more realistic than finishing 6th or worse in the A-10 and hoping for the best.

I hope he's not discussing anything but the Rhode Island game with the team. NCAA tournament debate should be left to the fans and media. The team should be focused on the next game only.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[IAFlyer]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo Thanks Rollo. I knew the #29 in my original post came from somewhere, just got it confused with Missouri State's historical snub at 21. Point being it is extremely unlikely to be left out with a sub-50 RPI.

I don't think it is unlikely at all. Following is a list of the highest ranked RPIs left including the highest ranked BCS school left out from 2006-2011.

2011
#35 Harvard
#42 Cleveland St
#43 Missouri St
#46 Saint Mary's
#50 Colorado St
#54 Marshall
#58 Boston College (ACC)

2010
#40 Rhode Island
#45 UAB
#47 Kent State
#53 Memphis
#54 Dayton
#55 Mississippi St (SEC)

2009
#34 San Diego St
#40 Creighton
#46 UAB
#47 Illinois St
#48 St. Mary's
#49 Niagara
#51 George Mason
#53 Tulsa
#54 Florida (SEC)

2008
#37 Illinois St
#39 Ole Miss (SEC)

2007
#29 Air Force
#36 Missouri St
#39 Bradley
#41 Florida St (ACC)

2006
#22 Hofstra
#24 Missouri St
#39 St. Joseph's
#40 Cincinnati (Big East)

My point is that being in the 40s is not going to get it done on its own. More has to be included/happen in that regard.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[rollo]

Originally Posted by rollo King Figgie has spoken and, yes, I should have used the UD website... Which just goes to show that Figgie can teach me a few things about stats and I can teach him more about being Royale.

Figgie was once a King...I have proof!

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by IAFlyer I don't think it is unlikely at all. Following is a list of the highest ranked RPIs left including the highest ranked BCS school left out from 2006-2011. My point is that being in the 40s is not going to get it done on its own. More has to be included/happen in that regard.

Keep in mind there are now three more teams in the field (starting in 2011). But I agree being in the 40's isn't a guarantee.

[westchesterflyer]

Originally Posted by IAFlyer I don't think it is unlikely at all. Following is a list of the highest ranked RPIs left including the highest ranked BCS school left out from 2006-2011. 2011 #35 Harvard #42 Cleveland St #43 Missouri St #46 Saint Mary's #50 Colorado St #54 Marshall #58 Boston College (ACC) 2010 #40 Rhode Island #45 UAB #47 Kent State #53 Memphis #54 Dayton #55 Mississippi St (SEC) 2009 #34 San Diego St #40 Creighton #46 UAB #47 Illinois St #48 St. Mary's #49 Niagara #51 George Mason #53 Tulsa #54 Florida (SEC) 2008 #37 Illinois St #39 Ole Miss (SEC) 2007 #29 Air Force #36 Missouri St #39 Bradley #41 Florida St (ACC) 2006 #22 Hofstra #24 Missouri St #39 St. Joseph's #40 Cincinnati (Big East) My point is that being in the 40s is not going to get it done on its own. More has to be included/happen in that regard.

I think the Committee has it in it's "head" that certain conferences are "one bid" only. If you look carefully at the above I think you'll see the Hofstra's, Air Forces, etc dominate the list.

I sometimes wonder if they are concerned about tanking to get additional teams in from these conferences.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by westchesterflyer I think the Committee has it in it's "head" that certain conferences are "one bid" only. If you look carefully at the above I think you'll see the Hofstra's, Air Forces, etc dominate the list. I sometimes wonder if they are concerned about tanking to get additional teams in from these conferences.

RPI is only 1 piece of the puzzle and is really used to compare how good your wins and losses are. How did you do against top 25, 50 100? or Did you lose top any below 100, 200? The problem with the 1 bid conferences is that that usually don't have many games against top 25 or 50 teams.

[IAFlyer]

Originally Posted by westchesterflyer I think the Committee has it in it's "head" that certain conferences are "one bid" only. If you look carefully at the above I think you'll see the Hofstra's, Air Forces, etc dominate the list. I sometimes wonder if they are concerned about tanking to get additional teams in from these conferences.

The MVC has had multiple bids in the past. Looking at that list and excluding the one-bid conferences"

2011- none
2010 - Rhode Island at #40
2009 - Creighton and Ill State
2008 - Ill State and Ole Miss (both in the 30s)
2007 - Missouri St, Bradley (30s) and Florida State (41)
2006 - Missouri St (26), St Joe's (39), Cincy (40)

3 in that list of 11 are BCS conference teams, and 2 are A-10. It is probably about a 50-56% probability that an A-10 team in the 40s gets in. I think the top 50 wins are going to be critical and we've got a couple left to get (one is on the road, though).

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[m21eagle45]

After looking at the remaining schedules of UD and the teams in front of us, I definitely think there is a chance that we can sneak into the top 3-4 of the league if we take care of business and go 5-1 down the stretch.

SLU- VCU, @GMU, GW, Duq, @VCU, UD, UMASSS (That is a heck of a way to end the year!)
VCU- @SLU, @UMASS, @ Fordham, SLU, @Rich, St.Bonnies (Already have 2 losses I could see 2-3 maybe even 4 more)
GW- UMASS, @Rich, @ SLU, GMU, St Joes, @ Fordham (Could easily see 3-4 losses to end the year for GW who already have 3 losses)
Rich- Fordham, GW, LaSalle, @GMU, @ URI, Rich, @UD(Easiest remaining schedule in my opinion. but only 1.5 ahead of UD)
UMASS- @GW, VCU, URI, @UD, @DuQ, SLU (Only 1 game ahead with big H2H against UD)
UD- LaSalle, @Duq, @St. Joe, UMASS, @SLU, Richmond

The road for UD will not be easy. But looking at the remaining schedules and the head to head games UD has, they can definitely make up ground as long as they take care of business.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[FlyingArrow]

There are 8 remaining games between teams above us, plus 4 games that we have against teams above us. If only lose to SLU (tall order) and SLU wins out, that's 11 losses spread among 5 teams. That's an average of a little more than 2 per team, not counting any losses to teams below us. It's possible that 10-6 would get us a top 4 finish, but it might not.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Buster Goode]

I just thought...when have we ever played ourselves into the tournament? I know that run back in 1990 put us in, but aside from that, we pretty much play ourselves out of the tournament. In 2000, we were pretty much the last team in. In 2009, we seemed like a lock and ended up a 11-seed. Seconds thoughts, there's no way we will make the tournament.

Glad I had this revelation. Don't want to get sucked into belief only to be let down for the 12 straight year

[Buster Goode]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 After looking at the remaining schedules of UD and the teams in front of us, I definitely think there is a chance that we can sneak into the top 3-4 of the league if we take care of business and go 5-1 down the stretch. SLU- VCU, @GMU, GW, Duq, @VCU, UD, UMASSS (That is a heck of a way to end the year!) VCU- @SLU, @UMASS, @ Fordham, SLU, @Rich, St.Bonnies (Already have 2 losses I could see 2-3 maybe even 4 more) GW- UMASS, @Rich, @ SLU, GMU, St Joes, @ Fordham (Could easily see 3-4 losses to end the year for GW who already have 3 losses) Rich- Fordham, GW, LaSalle, @GMU, @ URI, Rich, @UD(Easiest remaining schedule in my opinion. but only 1.5 ahead of UD) UMASS- @GW, VCU, URI, @UD, @DuQ, SLU (Only 1 game ahead with big H2H against UD) UD- LaSalle, @Duq, @St. Joe, UMASS, @SLU, Richmond The road for UD will not be easy. But looking at the remaining schedules and the head to head games UD has, they can definitely make up ground as long as they take care of business.

Great research. But...we are Dayton. Come on. LOL

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Windy City Flyer]

This is another big game for the Flyers. We have to continue to take care of the lower half of the A10. LaSalle is struggling with loses in their last 3 games including one against in city rival St Joe at home. LaSalle protects their home court well so this loss is significant in terms of the confidence level they have right now. If we can hit some 3's early and get the crowd in the game that would be huge. We must run the court, control the tempo and score 80+ points to win. Otherwise this senior team hangs around and makes it interesting.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[San Diego Flyer]

We have 4 teams in the top 50 rpi left, and two dogs. Pretty much a given that we cannot lose to LaSalle. And even on the road, Duquesne would be a BAD loss.

Assuming the L&D wins above, most likely result would be a split of the big 4, leaving us at 21-10 and a remote NCAA chance depending on the other conferences.

I'm with those who say 5-1 gives us a credible rpi, W/L record, sos, good resume', and a seat on the NCAA bubble.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[FlyerGuyer]

Originally Posted by Buster Goode I just thought...when have we ever played ourselves into the tournament? I know that run back in 1990 put us in, but aside from that, we pretty much play ourselves out of the tournament. In 2000, we were pretty much the last team in. In 2009, we seemed like a lock and ended up a 11-seed.

2003 when we won our last 5 games in a row and last 17 of 19 games to play our way into a 4 seed. Unfortunately, though, we then quickly proceeded to play ourselves right out. LOL

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by IAFlyer I don't think it is unlikely at all. Following is a list of the highest ranked RPIs left including the highest ranked BCS school left out from 2006-2011. 2011 #35 Harvard #42 Cleveland St #43 Missouri St #46 Saint Mary's #50 Colorado St #54 Marshall #58 Boston College (ACC) 2010 #40 Rhode Island #45 UAB #47 Kent State #53 Memphis #54 Dayton #55 Mississippi St (SEC) 2009 #34 San Diego St #40 Creighton #46 UAB #47 Illinois St #48 St. Mary's #49 Niagara #51 George Mason #53 Tulsa #54 Florida (SEC) 2008 #37 Illinois St #39 Ole Miss (SEC) 2007 #29 Air Force #36 Missouri St #39 Bradley #41 Florida St (ACC) 2006 #22 Hofstra #24 Missouri St #39 St. Joseph's #40 Cincinnati (Big East) My point is that being in the 40s is not going to get it done on its own. More has to be included/happen in that regard.

My post was a typo. We were discussing being left out with sub-30 RPIs.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[Buster Goode]

Originally Posted by FlyerGuyer 2003 when we won our last 5 games in a row and last 17 of 19 games to play our way into a 4 seed. Unfortunately, though, we then quickly proceeded to play ourselves right out. LOL

That year, we were in the whole year, a bid was a foregone conclusion. I was talking more of a 1990 run.

[San Diego Flyer]

The announcers for the LaSalle game seemed really on top of the bubble team's chances, and they squarely nailed the importance of the Duquesne game for us. A win would put us in a position to split the last 4 tough games and still be on the bubble. It's as if a win over Duquesne is our entry fee. A loss would be crippling, and probably put us in a position of having to win 3 or 4 of the last 4. Tough duty.

We also have a chance to add scalps to our "significant wins" column, even if we go 2-2. Some bubble teams don't have much to show in that column.

This time of year, it always seems like the next game is the most important one of the remaining season, but this time it REALLY is.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.