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Old 12-30-2017, 05:20 PM
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42-40 Dukes with 15:57 left... Josh with 2 FTs after the break
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They waved-off Cunningham’s basket?
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5 point swing after Jordan blows a dunk/layup. SMH
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And Trey throws it away instead of taking a layup.
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We routinely miss the dump inside to Josh off the pick and roll.
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5 point swing after Jordan blows a dunk/layup. SMH
And another swing after that bad pass by Trey. SMH.
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I hate to think how we will do against good teams
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This is slipping away.
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So at the 11:23 mark of the 2nd half UD has not put in a sub.
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This may go down as worst team since Obrien
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53-46 DU with 11:23 left... Josh w/2 FTs after the break
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This is slipping away.
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UD in the bonus the last 11+ minutes. Don’t mean jack if you don’t make em
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Since we went to the zone last in the first half, they are shooting lights out.

I guess we will not sub in the second half.
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So at the 11:23 mark of the 2nd half UD has not put in a sub.
That’s in large part a sad commentary on our bench.
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This is a loss....and a bad one as DU is not a good team at all
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We have a huge problem. We only have 3 players.
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Huge discrepancy from the foul line.
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This is slipping away.
When we get gassed after 5 min, it starts.
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And we have a sub. It's Svoboda.

Same thing happened in the first half. That folks is a pattern
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The good news is that Dukes are subject to offensive dry spells just like UD is
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I’m not going to say the calls are completely against the Flyers. But the replay on that offensive rebound by Trey confirms it: worst rebounding-related call I’ve seen so far this season.
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12+ minutes out of our starters is starting to show on the boards. Getting flat footed. Evidently, Kostas and XW cannot help there.
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Amazing how this board lights up when the Flyers are in the middle of a bad stretch.

When they are making plays and somewhat resemble the makings of a decent team.... stone silence.
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I’m not going to say the calls are completely against the Flyers. But the replay on that offensive rebound by Trey confirms it: worst rebounding-related call I’ve seen so far this season.

He didnt even touch the guy- hometown refs without question
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Amazing how this board lights up when the Flyers are in the middle of a bad stretch.

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AG needs to throw a chair ala Bobby Knight- this officiating is beyond pathetic. Josh got pushed out of bounds right in front of a ref and no call
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12+ minutes out of our starters is starting to show on the boards. Getting flat footed. Evidently, Kostas and XW cannot help there.
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Saw that. And Josh let him know about it, too.
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Are you and CoffeeCan together?

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Blame it all on the coach, but they played a walk on for a short time today. The reserves are all playing like walk ons. Could not tell the difference. You can’t beat one of worst teams in A10 with walk on talent.

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UD is running out of gas at end of halves too often. This a big sign of tired players and no bench
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Totally out coached.

What is Kostas and XW's roles on this team? Only two substitutions in 20 minutes.

Is this the "next level" of Dayton Basketball?
Kostas role should be to keep a seat warm on the bench until he grows up.
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This team is becoming increasingly hard to watch...i would say they are mediocre, but that would be an overstatement
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Just want to see improvement over the course of the year. Sights need to be set on the A10 Tournament. A good start would be Kostas zipping his lip.
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Totally out coached.
Just go read the Bama message boards. It's simply what happens.
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UD is running out of gas at end of halves too often. This a big sign of tired players and no bench
Agree. Could see this coming easily. When our only sub is Sobvoda, and Kostas and XW can't get. Into the game, what can we expect?

This is so discouraging, what part of this team is improving? What commitment do the coaches have to developing the players they have today?
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What is the deal on Williams. Some have said he is injured, but is that a guess? I have seen no cofirmation of an injury. Does not make sense that Matej is playing so much.
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Just go read the Bama message boards. It's simply what happens.
You are welcome to start coaching is team.

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is an issue with this team.
No it's not.

Not substituting or having a substitution pattern is a problem with this team
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We may finish last in the A10. Our worst game thus far. No skill and no heart and no hustle.
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The “no hustle” part is what’s most concerning to me. I saw (I think it was) X launch a 3 in the first half, and he didn’t follow his shot. Then, near the end, I saw DD miss a shot, and instead of fighting for the rebound, he pouted about it. That’s gotta change if this year’s squad is try to finish in the top half of the league this year.
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You are welcome to start coaching is team.

Do you really believe this team can win? Show me how.
I'm too busy drinking right now to type that much right now.

But there is no way UD should lose to that Duquesne team.
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will this team empty UD arena?
I won't be driving 4 hours round trip to watch this crap. I just hope people will buy enough of my tickets for me to break even.
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C-time, essentially the same post as earlier this month. I believed you the first time.
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C-time, essentially the same post as earlier this month. I believed you the first time.
It's exactly the same post I just wanted to make sure you didn't forget.
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Matej is a good player. However, he had ZERO confidence rn and it continues to dwindle.
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Strange that Kostas stayed in after his tantrum but never played the second half. Wonder if there were words at halftime?
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Totally out coached.

What is Kostas and XW's roles on this team? Only two substitutions in 20 minutes.

Is this the "next level" of Dayton Basketball?
Who's he gonna sub in? Ryan Perryman?

He probably sat Kostas in the second half to send him a msg to get his brain in sync with his composure. I would have hoped for nothing less.

I have my own gripes with some of the coaching, but My God did Archie leave Grant with one heck of a pickle. We are taking a butter knife to a gun fight every time we take the court. With an arm tied behind our back. We can argue about why our butter knife jabs arent as clean as they should be, but at some point we must also recognize the gun in the room.

Did we lose to an inferior team today? Im not convinced. Looked like two evenly matched teams to me. The more experienced team won the last 4 minutes -- as one would expect them to. We played about 7 guys. Four were true frosh. Throw in a walk-on. Dambrot should probably hold his head in shame for not pasting us by 25.
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What is the deal on Williams. Some have said he is injured, but is that a guess? I have seen no cofirmation of an injury. Does not make sense that Matej is playing so much.
Radio guys said he’s been trying to come back from a back injury. Don’t know why he didn’t play more today, but back issues do tend to flare up time and again so it might have????

I will say we should score 70+ against DU and didn’t. Maybe it’s youth and inexperience that ails us. It certainly doesn’t help we can’t seem to get everyone healthy for any given game so we have to go with a short bench and so much youth. It’s going to be a long season and will come down to where we are mentally and improvement at the end. It won’t be easy to watch, but I hope the players stay with each other and keep working hard.

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Did we lose to an inferior team today? Im not convinced. Looked like two evenly matched teams to me. The more experienced team won the last 4 minutes -- as one would expect them to. We played about 7 guys. Four were true frosh. Throw in a walk-on. Dambrot should probably hold his head in shame for not pasting us by 25.
It was a freshman and guy that played one year at Coppin State making plays down the stretch for Duquesne.
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It was a freshman and guy that played one year at Coppin State making plays down the stretch for Duquesne.
The 21pts by grad student Butler transfer Castro-Caneddy meant something too. He would start for us. Lewis the sophomore started 31 games last year -- he was an A10 All Rookie -- something we don't have. We would also start for us. Williams the true frosh has already been named A10 ROW a few times -- again something our frosh can't claim.

Dukes have as much talent as we do -- at least in terms of bodies we played today. In a close game at home -- it favors them. Go 18-21 at the stripe while UD goes 9-17 and the better team won. I didnt see Dayton under-achieve. I saw us perform about up to our level of talent and execution and get beat by a team that played slightly above that level. Going in I figured a 1 in 4 chance of winning this. Probably sold them a bit short, but not having won a road game yet, I was not optimistic in the least.
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Who's he gonna sub in? Ryan Perryman?

He probably sat Kostas in the second half to send him a msg to get his brain in sync with his composure. I would have hoped for nothing less.

I have my own gripes with some of the coaching, but My God did Archie leave Grant with one heck of a pickle. We are taking a butter knife to a gun fight every time we take the court. With an arm tied behind our back. We can argue about why our butter knife jabs arent as clean as they should be, but at some point we must also recognize the gun in the room.

Did we lose to an inferior team today? Im not convinced. Looked like two evenly matched teams to me. The more experienced team won the last 4 minutes -- as one would expect them to. We played about 7 guys. Four were true frosh. Throw in a walk-on. Dambrot should probably hold his head in shame for not pasting us by 25.
Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. This was an easy one to see coming.

While Duquesne engaged it's team, we played basically six guys. In the first half, foul trouble forced CAG's hand. In the second half, it did not. Our guys got tired and flat footed. As UD ran out of gas, we couldn't hit a shot (0 FG in the last 5:33. Five minutes, thirty three seconds. In the last 3:58 of the first half, the only FG was Kosta's dunk. Nine minutes of game time, one FG.

Is there no other way to get through to Kostas than to bench him for an entire half?

My concern is that compared to the first 10 games, it's difficult to see progress. Isn't that where we can assess CAG? What is he doing with regard to XW? Doesn't the coach have some responsibility to work with a player to find out how he can maximize his talents to the benefit of the team? Is he effectively doing that by sitting Kostas?

Two final thoughts.

First, in the post game CAG used the terms "cards we were dealt". Hey, I don't like the roster position either, but the coach is the one who must rise above that attitude, and find a way to win with what he has. That kind of commentary cannot happen in public.

Second, regarding UD vs. Duquesne. Considering the past 10 years, facilities, fan base, and community support, how can we be happy with being on par with the basketball program? Pretty sure DU isn't sticking $70M+ into their arena. A coaching change should not result in reduced expectations. I don't think most of us are expecting a final four, however, I don't think we should settle for what we are experiencing right now.
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