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Nothing else going on. Might as well go back to bashing Archie.
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Originally Posted by Buckleyma View Post
Dallasflyer: Archie could have a beer with Bucky Bockhorn in Bloomington Indiana, as well! We'll, as a fanbase, travel to Bloomington for the game. Although, the last time that I watched a game in their arena, I felt physically threatened by how steep the seating was positioned. It was so steep that i was afraid to stand up and go get a cold beverage. I just sat in my seat clutching the chair handles wondering if there was a seat belt or some type of safety harness for us old folks who aren't as stable on our feet as we used to be.
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I felt the exact same trepidation in St John Arena in '61 when our C-ville coach took us there for a game. Never have really experienced anything that steep since. Of course those were the cheap seats, but I thought they should have paid US to sit there. I was white knuckle in the seat the whole game.
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Dallasflyer: Archie could have a beer with Bucky Bockhorn in Bloomington Indiana, as well! We'll, as a fanbase, travel to Bloomington for the game. Although, the last time that I watched a game in their arena, I felt physically threatened by how steep the seating was positioned. It was so steep that i was afraid to stand up and go get a cold beverage. I just sat in my seat clutching the chair handles wondering if there was a seat belt or some type of safety harness for us old folks who aren't as stable on our feet as we used to be.
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Amen on the steepness issue. Great atmosphere, but that upper deck is roller coaster without a seat belt scary.
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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer View Post
I felt the exact same trepidation in St John Arena .
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Dallasflyer: Archie could have a beer with Bucky Bockhorn in Bloomington Indiana, as well! We'll, as a fanbase, travel to Bloomington for the game. Although, the last time that I watched a game in their arena, I felt physically threatened by how steep the seating was positioned. It was so steep that i was afraid to stand up and go get a cold beverage. I just sat in my seat clutching the chair handles wondering if there was a seat belt or some type of safety harness for us old folks who aren't as stable on our feet as we used to be.
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Amen on the steepness issue. Great atmosphere, but that upper deck is roller coaster without a seat belt scary.
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I have been to both, and neither compared with the Aud in Buffalo New York where I went to watch a few Sabres hockey games. They claimed it was the steepest seats in all of sports. My arm still has hand prints from my wifes death grip on me. Even after multiple adult beverages, I still felt like I was going to fall forward out of me seat watching the game, but was heck of a view looking down on the ice. It is a shame they tore the building down.
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Wink They Need The Money....

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OSU only plays buy games in their arena, unless it is a Big5 team.
Right, because they desperately need the money to keep the athletic department afloat. Or, maybe there is another reason. Call me a cynic.
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Would have been nice if Sean would have done this for Archie when he was at UD: Report: Miller brothers at Arizona, Indiana schedule three-year series

http://arizonasports.com/story/11849...hedule-series/
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Would have been nice if Sean would have done this for Archie when he was at UD: Report: Miller brothers at Arizona, Indiana schedule three-year series

http://arizonasports.com/story/11849...hedule-series/
Archie and OSU hc Holtmann are both earning more than Sean at Arizona. Very strange.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basket...contract-money:


Arizona basketball: Archie Miller to earn higher salary than Sean Miller at Indiana

According to the Indy Star, Archie’s contract at IU, which runs through March 2024, is worth up to $24 million and will pay him an average of $3.35 million per year and could pass the $4 million mark after incentives.

Sean’s contract at Arizona, which was extended in February, currently pays him about $2.6 million and is set to increase to at least $2.9 million by 2020.

In total, Archie is the eighth-highest paid coach in college basketball among those that reached the NCAA Tournament last year, per USA Today.

While Sean is the highest paid public employee in the state of Arizona, it’s clear that he could make more money elsewhere, which is why some fear he could leave Tucson eventually.

However, Sean was not interested in the Ohio State job this offseason, and its new coach, Chris Holtmann, makes more than Sean now too, so money evidently isn’t his No. 1 priority.
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Archie and OSU hc Holtmann are both earning more than Sean at Arizona. Very strange.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basket...contract-money:


Arizona basketball: Archie Miller to earn higher salary than Sean Miller at Indiana

According to the Indy Star, Archie’s contract at IU, which runs through March 2024, is worth up to $24 million and will pay him an average of $3.35 million per year and could pass the $4 million mark after incentives.

Sean’s contract at Arizona, which was extended in February, currently pays him about $2.6 million and is set to increase to at least $2.9 million by 2020.

In total, Archie is the eighth-highest paid coach in college basketball among those that reached the NCAA Tournament last year, per USA Today.

While Sean is the highest paid public employee in the state of Arizona, it’s clear that he could make more money elsewhere, which is why some fear he could leave Tucson eventually.

However, Sean was not interested in the Ohio State job this offseason, and its new coach, Chris Holtmann, makes more than Sean now too, so money evidently isn’t his No. 1 priority.
2016 Arizona payed Miller 4.9 mill. Now money could be deferred in different ways because of taxes. Who knows how these contracts are setup
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That might be, but I think that despite our disappointment with his departure, Archie is a better coach.
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Big smiles everyone! The Dayton men's basketball schedule is coming out today (except for Charleston matchups).
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Somebody should tell whoever created the graphic that Mississippi St. is located in Starkville and not the town of "Mississippi State"
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A whole lot of Blah... The game at SMC will be huge. Steal that one on the road and our schedule looks that much better. Lose that one and we have to beat Auburn and MSU.
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Somebody should tell whoever created the graphic that Mississippi St. is located in Starkville and not the town of "Mississippi State"
It's actually correct. Mississippi State is mostly located outside of Starkville.

Humphrey Coliseum has a Mississippi State, MS mailing address.

http://www.humphreycoliseum.msstate.edu/
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It's actually correct. Mississippi State is mostly located outside of Starkville.

Humphrey Coliseum has a Mississippi State, MS mailing address.

http://www.humphreycoliseum.msstate.edu/
Well based on that I guess they're technically correct based upon the mailing address, but has anyone actually ever said Mississippi State University is located in Mississippi State, Mississippi? The answer is no. It's Starkville or Starkvegas!
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Umm.. I think somebody just did...
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That might be, but I think that despite our disappointment with his departure, Archie is a better coach.
I agree and also there are precious few coaches who could have pulled off what Arch did in our short-handed season. He set himself apart in that miracle season.
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Umm.. I think somebody just did...
Come on Medford. You know what I mean.

In a normal discussion of Mississippi St 99% of people would say it's in Starkville. Sure bcross looked up the technical address but I highly doubt him or anyone else would have ever thought there was an actual town/address of Mississippi State, Misssissippi unless they went to school there and had to write that down as their address while there or have taken a class on Mississippi geography.

And I bet Brent Musburger never came on the air saying "You are looking live at Davis Wade Stadium in Mississippi State, Mississippi". He would say "You are looking live at Davis Wade Stadium in Starkville, Mississippi"
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And I bet Brent Musburger never came on the air saying "You are looking live at Davis Wade Stadium in Mississippi State, Mississippi". He would say "You are looking live at Davis Wade Stadium in Starkville, Mississippi"
What time is the kickoff? Depending on how many Brent has put down, geographic confusion is well within the realm of possibility.
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A whole lot of Blah... The game at SMC will be huge. Steal that one on the road and our schedule looks that much better. Lose that one and we have to beat Auburn and MSU.
I find the fact that Dayton is playing the John Groce-led Akron Zips and the Ron Hunter-led Georgia State Panthers pretty funny. Both those guys were people that Dayton officials reportedly were in contact with regarding the head coaching position when Miller left. They didn't get the job obviously, but since we already had their phone numbers, UD just went ahead and scheduled them. "Sorry you didn't get the job, but we're pleased to offer you a consolation prize in which you will get to coach a game at the arena!"
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I find the fact that Dayton is playing the John Groce-led Akron Zips and the Ron Hunter-led Georgia State Panthers pretty funny. Both those guys were people that Dayton officials reportedly were in contact with regarding the head coaching position when Miller left. They didn't get the job obviously, but since we already had their phone numbers, UD just went ahead and scheduled them. "Sorry you didn't get the job, but we're pleased to offer you a consolation prize in which you will get to coach a game at the arena!"
James Whitford at Ball State is another one.
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James Whitford at Ball State is another one.
Indeed! I had skipped down to the part of the DDN article that lists out all the non con opponents, not realizing they put the home opener in the first paragraph. So I totally missed that one. Anyway, so Akron and Ball State are not part of a series? Those are pretty good gets.
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In a normal discussion of Mississippi St 99% of people would say it's in Starkville. Sure bcross looked up the technical address but I highly doubt him or anyone else would have ever thought there was an actual town/address of Mississippi State, Misssissippi unless they went to school there and had to write that down as their address while there or have taken a class on Mississippi geography.
I absolutely looked it up and only did so because I saw someone mention it on twitter. Learned something new today.
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Hard to find it in list format and it took me several hours before I realized Ball St. was opener. I'll try to save others from this:

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Charleston (N)
Charleston (N)
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I like the Akron and Georgia State games a lot.
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Would have been nice if Sean would have done this for Archie when he was at UD: Report: Miller brothers at Arizona, Indiana schedule three-year series

http://arizonasports.com/story/11849...hedule-series/
Wasn't something in the DDN reported saying that Archie didn't want to play Sean?
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Coach Grant on the schedule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icRjSvfDgMw
He seems to be expecting this year's team to be worse than last year, I guess that explains the weaker schedule this year. Only 1 "tougher/bigger name" non-con home game this year, Auburn. Last year we had Vanderbilt and SMC at home. Sigh.
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On paper I really like this schedule. At first glance it doesn't seem like any of the buy games are going to sub 300 RPI games like VMI was last year.

Akron and Ball St are two good buy games. BSU brings back a guard, Tayler Persons, who was second team all MAC and probably has a good shot at making first team this year along with some other guys who logged major minutes. Akron lost some folks in the coaching transition but got a good grad transfer at guard from Oregon St and have one of the better young guards in the MAC in Jimond Ivey. Both of them I would expect to be in the top half of their divisions in the MAC.

Georgia State is projected 138 in the top 144 preview and a top of the table team in the Sun Belt

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/14857

Auburn hasn't been good since Bruce Pearl got there but there's a good chance the talent he's accumulated over the past couple years starts paying dividends.

Penn brings back 3 of it's top 4 scorers from a team that finished 4th in the Ivy including a freshman who was second team All-Ivy.

Wagner and Tennessee Tech on paper look better than most SWAC/MEAC teams
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I believe he has a realistic outlook for the season. Four players gone, not a lot of experience returning, lots of first year players. It will be interesting to see this team grow as the season progresses. He sure will have an opportunity to put his mark on this team.
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Considering the current scheduling model for UD, the lack of interest by big schools to schedule home and home games, the unknowns with a new coach and losing 4 seniors, etc......

I have to say, I give the Flyer Athletic department an A with this schedule if all our opponents live up to their on paper expectations.
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Considering the current scheduling model for UD, the lack of interest by big schools to schedule home and home games, the unknowns with a new coach and losing 4 seniors, etc......

I have to say, I give the Flyer Athletic department an A with this schedule if all our opponents live up to their on paper expectations.
This is the weakest schedule in years.

We have played 7 tougher opponents in the non-con for the last several years, 2 home and 5 away/neutral, this year it is 6...1 home and 5 away/neutral.

And last year we had 4 seniors and had 7 good games. The stuff about nobody wanting to play us is pure garbage.

If anything, it should have been easier to get good games this year.

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The Charleston Classic is the weakest exempt tourney we've played in that I can remember

Mississippi State is probably comparable to Alabama last year

St. Mary's is the same

Auburn could very well end up being better than Vanderbilt

No VMI or D2 on the schedule
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I think our SOS fits the lack of maturity and complexities of our squad this year. Anthony has his hands full and will have really earned his keep if we make the postseason NCAA field.

That said, yes we could have a good record but fall short on RPI and SOS this season. Personally I can't wait for us to get started and see what this year's squad does.
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This is the weakest schedule in years.

We have played 7 tougher opponents in the non-con for the last several years, 2 home and 5 away/neutral, this year it is 6...1 home and 5 away/neutral.

And last year we had 4 seniors and had 7 good games. The stuff about nobody wanting to play us is pure garbage.

If anything, it should have been easier to get good games this year.
Agree.

4 straight tourney runs...self proclaimed "one of the best venues in college basketball".

This schedule is an epic fail.
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I think a good record will lead to a good RPI/SOS based upon that schedule; there are few, if any, real stinkers (ie VMI), however it likely won't lead to many top 50 type wins that seem to be more key in an NCAA selection bid.

Given the big roster turnover both in personal and in coaching, the injuries to Miller, Mikesell and now Kostas, a lack of any sort of establish PG, etc.. A schedule with fewer high profile games but less RPI drags is probably what the doctor ordered. If I've learned anything over the years, it is that we should trust UD's scheduling philosophy. They seemingly get it "right" most seasons, striking a balance b/w a schedule that provides both revenue thru home games and an NCAA tournament profile when successful on the court.
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The Charleston Classic is the weakest exempt tourney we've played in that I can remember

Mississippi State is probably comparable to Alabama last year

St. Mary's is the same

Auburn could very well end up being better than Vanderbilt

No VMI or D2 on the schedule
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8 out of the last 9 years, UD has played 7 or 8 tougher games in the OOC if you include the Miami of Ohio home and home series games at UD as a tougher game.

But, we played only 6 tougher OOC games in 2015-2016, and everything worked out fine that year: we got a 7 seed.

It just feels like this schedule features a bit of backsliding.

It just feels like, with this schedule, there is less margin for error, and I just think that the selection committee does not really punish you for losing some of your tougher games if you play a tougher schedule.

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We have played 7 tougher opponents in the non-con for the last several years, 2 home and 5 away/neutral, this year it is 6...1 home and 5 away/neutral.
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8 out of the last 9 years, UD has played 7 or 8 tougher games in the OOC if you include the Miami of Ohio home and home series games at UD as a tougher game.

But, we played only 6 tougher OOC games in 2015-2016, and everything worked out fine that year: we got a 7 seed.
This schedule will be a little weaker than normal due to the exempt tourney being weaker. But your other statements are way off. I don't see how in the world you can call Miami a big game. Take Miami out and your 8 out of the last 9 years statement is not true. In 14-15 we played only 6 "tougher" games not including Miami. The same holds true for other seasons as well. In 10-11 we played even fewer "tougher" games. But if you want to include Miami as a tough game then you would have to include Akron and Ball State this season. You can't have it both ways. Including Akron and Ball State would give UD eight "tougher" games this season. So, either way you look at it, your statements about the number of "tougher" games are incorrect. I know you love to bash UD's schedules every year, but at least get your facts straight.
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And UD has now fixed the schedule and they have UD playing in Starkville, Mississippi as it should be.

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UD2 not only never likes the schedule, he also disliked the AG hire. So, his purpose is two fold: first, his annual complaint about the schedule but the second is him setting up, in his mind atleast, that the schedule is very weak. He then, again in his mind, can justify any losses as part of his larger crusade to bash the AG hire.

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UD will play Hofstra first round of the Charleston Classic per Jon Rothstein tweet:

2017 Charleston Classic bracket, per sources: Clemson/Ohio, Dayton/Hofstra, Temple/Old Dominion, Auburn/Indiana State.
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Do I read this correctly that we play the winner of Ohio/Clemson in round 2? (assuming we win)
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Do I read this correctly that we play the winner of Ohio/Clemson in round 2? (assuming we win)
Looks like it
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UD2 not only never likes the schedule, he also disliked the AG hire. So, his purpose is two fold: first, his annual complaint about the schedule but the second is him setting up, in his mind atleast, that the schedule is very weak. He then, again in his mind, can justify any losses as part of his larger crusade to bash the AG hire.

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Yes, I am guilty as charged. I am sorry if some of my comments about AG's hiring upset some people. I still do not like the hire, but I hope that I am proven wrong.

And I am not planning on making a lot of criticism of AG during his first 3 years. But, I do feel like making the NCAAT by his 3rd year is a very reasonable expectation.

And I also feel like AG should be expected to advance the program, as in doing as well as or better than Archie.

That was why I was critical of BG: it took him too long to get UD back to the NCAAT. Archie got UD back to the NCAAT by his 3rd year. Outside of BG's 1st year, I feel like BG should have also been able to get UD back to the NCAAT by his 3rd year, but, it took BG until his 6th year to get UD back to the NCAAT. That was much too long of a wait IMO.

I have never liked the scheduling model, I think that it is not ambitious enough. IMO, it is not enough to be just focused on making the NCAAT every year, UD should be focused on growing the program and getting better seeds in the NCAAT, and the scheduling model makes achieving that objective pretty difficult IMO. It is going to be hard for UD to ever consistently advance past the round of 32 with our scheduling model. Prior to the NCAAT, Archie won 26, 24, and 23 games over his last 3 years, and all we got was an 11, 7, and 7 seed.

In about the last 30 years, UD has had the following seeds: 10, 9, 12, 11, 4, 10, 11, 11, 11, 7, and 7. I think we should be expect better than that. Look at VCU, Butler, Creighton, Xavier, and Temple, they all have gotten much better seeds than that over that time, and they all schedule more ambitiously than UD does.

This year's schedule feels like UD has already written off any hopes for the NCAAT this season, and that upsets me because schools like VCU, Butler, Creighton, and Temple and Xavier, when those 2 were in the A10, don't do things like that.

I feel like UD needs to do a better job of keeping up with its peers.

At those schools, they don't say "Hello, Mr. New Head Coach, welcome to XYZ University. We are pretty much going to give you a pass on your first year here, in terms of making the NCAAT." No, they pretty much expect the new head coach to hit the ground running in his first year. Will Wade at VCU, Thad Matta at X, and Chris Mack at X all made the NCAAT in their first year.

UD is red hot right now, it seems reasonable IMO, for AG to be able to be continue that hot streak in his first year. If Archie were still here, I would be looking at this year as a NCAAT year.
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Schedule looks very similar to previous years. I'd be surprised by this reaction if it didn't happen every single year.
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I'm confused ud2, first you say you are willing to give AG a two year pass and have a reasonable expectation of the Dance in his third year, then you rail against the program and AG for not making the Dance in his first year. which is it? I also believe UD has done a good job of scheduling, mixing a strong RPI non-con with a so-so conference. Over time it was the conference play that sidelined us not the OOC, until a couple of years ago we were a middle of the pack A-10 team, kudos to AM for changing that. This was going to be a very interesting year regardless of who was coach. We lost a lot, and have a bunch of unproven players. AG will have a great opportunity to put his stamp on the program, we may struggle a bit at the start but could be very good come conference time.

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I was expecting a worse slate of buy games. I was expecting more VMI/SWAC/MEAC caliber games. Very pleasantly surprised that Akron, Ball St and Georgia St were on the schedule. The competition to get games like this and Winthrop/East Tennessee St last year is getting more fierce.

I posted an article in here or one of the other threads said that said P5 schools are getting more strategic about getting quality opponents for buy games versus the old days of taking anyone. The Missouri Valley Conference commissioner said they had been squeezed out of good buy games as a result of this and it's really set back the league.
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to piggyback off of UD2's thinking, I think we have to string together great years to up the caliber of teams that'll play H/Hs with us

If you look at Wichita, Gonzaga, Creighton, Butler, Xavier, VCU the doors really opened scheduling wise when they strung together a long period success often across multiple coaches before the doors opened on better H/H series

If we hopefully string together 6-7 straight tourney appearances then a lot more doors will open
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to piggyback off of UD2's thinking, I think we have to string together great years to up the caliber of teams that'll play H/Hs with us

If you look at Wichita, Gonzaga, Creighton, Butler, Xavier, VCU the doors really opened scheduling wise when they strung together a long period success often across multiple coaches before the doors opened on better H/H series

If we hopefully string together 6-7 straight tourney appearances then a lot more doors will open
Not a comment on this year's schedule, but people used to say 3-4 tourney appearances in a row to get good H/H. Now we have 4 and you are saying 6-7! How many teams have been to the tournament 7 years in a row? Figgy? If we get to 7 straight will we say we have to get 9-10 visits in a row before good teams will play at UD?
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I looked up the answer to my own question.

There are currently 8 teams that have been to 7 straight tournaments.
Kansas
Duke
MSU
Gonzaga
Wisconsin
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Seems like a high standard if that is what it will take to get good H/H series. But with the current way the Power 5 teams schedule, it is probably true that you basically have to become Gonzaga before they will schedule you.
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To me, at a glance, the quality of the exempt tourney looks weaker than the typical event.

The rest of the non conference schedule has no names that jump out. But the top to bottom level seems better than typical. Not out and out consistently bad teams. No VMI types.

I call it about a push. I don't think there are any one or two wins that will seal a bid with a decent record. As always, a bid is determined by finishing in the top 4 of the A10, or winning the A10 tourney.

Given the experience on the roster and the likely bumpy beginnings, I think the schedule is about right.
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To me, at a glance, the quality of the exempt tourney looks weaker than the typical event.

The rest of the non conference schedule has no names that jump out. But the top to bottom level seems better than typical. Not out and out consistently bad teams. No VMI types.

I call it about a push. I don't think there are any one or two wins that will seal a bid with a decent record. As always, a bid is determined by finishing in the top 4 of the A10, or winning the A10 tourney.

Given the experience on the roster and the likely bumpy beginnings, I think the schedule is about right.
UDDoug: i concur with you. Grant is wise to not push his luck with a super competitive schedule with some big names this year. Grant is a new coach with new staff, new environment, new defense system, new offense system, large number of new players, etc. Grant is wise to not push this team too early. It's going to take some time. We'll need to build confidence, early. The A10 schedule will be tough enough. A roster without newcomers of Miller, Williams, Cunningham, Davis and Crosby will be challenged. The newcomers have got to give us a minimum of two starters. That is, i believe, at least, two of the new guys need to punch their ticket into the starting line-up. This year is a great opportunity for a new guy to get playing time unlike other programs or Dayton in other years. I propose that if two of the following are starters by A10 conference play then we will make it to the NCAA. That's my prediction. Two of the following: Kostas, Pierce, Svoboda or Crutcher. Otherwise, we are headed for the NIT, at best or more likely the CBI / CIT / V16.
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I think Ball State is going to be a test off the bat. Can't sleep walk

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For anybody that is not in the Nike Classic, or whatever that event is called, they are probably also saying, man this exempt tournament looks worse than usual this year.

That Field(s) included Arkansas, Butler, UConn, Duke, Florida, Georgetown, Gonzaga, Mich St, North Carolina, Ohio St, Oklahoma, Oregon, Portland, Portland St, Stanford and Texas.

14 of those 16 would automatically spice up any event, and has created a waterfall weakening everything else.
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For anybody that is not in the Nike Classic, or whatever that event is called, they are probably also saying, man this exempt tournament looks worse than usual this year.

That Field(s) included Arkansas, Butler, UConn, Duke, Florida, Georgetown, Gonzaga, Mich St, North Carolina, Ohio St, Oklahoma, Oregon, Portland, Portland St, Stanford and Texas.

14 of those 16 would automatically spice up any event, and has created a waterfall weakening everything else.
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this is a list of the exempt tourneys this year. Outside of Maui and Battle for Atlantis none of the other events look great

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I think Ball State is going to be a test off the bat. Can't sleep walk

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Akron is no pushover either. They have won 27 and 26 games the last two seasons. They may have lost some starters, but so did we, and it looks like John Groce is reloading quickly. Overall, our buy games this season are pretty good.
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Schedule looks very similar to previous years. I'd be surprised by this reaction if it didn't happen every single year.
I will give you 2015-2016, where we played a similar schedule.

But no...not similar...weaker this year...last year we had 5 a/n games along with Vanderbilt and SMC at home.

2014-2015...same thing 5 a/n along with GT and Ole Miss at home.

2013-2014...again 5 a/n...USC and Murray State(2 for 1 contract)at home

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And then the A10 years where we did sometimes play 6 a/n along with 3 tougher home games that were part of home and home contracts, due to the 16 game league schedule, instead of 18 league games.
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I'm confused ud2, first you say you are willing to give AG a two year pass and have a reasonable expectation of the Dance in his third year, then you rail against the program and AG for not making the Dance in his first year. which is it? I also believe UD has done a good job of scheduling, mixing a strong RPI non-con with a so-so conference. Over time it was the conference play that sidelined us not the OOC, until a couple of years ago we were a middle of the pack A-10 team, kudos to AM for changing that. This was going to be a very interesting year regardless of who was coach. We lost a lot, and have a bunch of unproven players. AG will have a great opportunity to put his stamp on the program, we may struggle a bit at the start but could be very good come conference time.
I am railing against the schedule. Why are we going backwards with scheduling this year? We could not find one more good home and home series this year? What changed vs. last year?

Last year, we had Vandy and SMC at home, this year just Auburn at home. Why?

What good does it do to weaken the schedule? We now may have to win more games to make the NCAAT. It is somewhat of a zero-sum game: if you weaken the schedule, then you have to win more games to make the NCAAT.

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Last year, we had Vandy and SMC at home, this year just Auburn at home. Why?
Is it even possible that there are any answers to this question that you will find acceptable?
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I will give you 2015-2016, where we played a similar schedule.

But no...not similar...weaker this year...last year we had 5 a/n games along with Vanderbilt and SMC at home.

2014-2015...same thing 5 a/n along with GT and Ole Miss at home.

2013-2014...again 5 a/n...USC and Murray State(2 for 1 contract)at home

2012-2013...5 a/n...Miami and Illinois State at home as part of home and home contracts

And then the A10 years where we did sometimes play 6 a/n along with 3 tougher home games that were part of home and home contracts, due to the 16 game league schedule, instead of 18 league games.
You are again counting Miami as a "tougher" game. Can't do that unless you count Ball State and Akron this year. So your reasoning is totally off base.
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This schedule will be a little weaker than normal due to the exempt tourney being weaker. But your other statements are way off. I don't see how in the world you can call Miami a big game. Take Miami out and your 8 out of the last 9 years statement is not true. In 14-15 we played only 6 "tougher" games not including Miami. The same holds true for other seasons as well. In 10-11 we played even fewer "tougher" games. But if you want to include Miami as a tough game then you would have to include Akron and Ball State this season. You can't have it both ways. Including Akron and Ball State would give UD eight "tougher" games this season. So, either way you look at it, your statements about the number of "tougher" games are incorrect. I know you love to bash UD's schedules every year, but at least get your facts straight.
No, I totally disagree.

The Miami at UD games were part of home and home contracts. UD was locked into those games at UD due to the home and home contract, therefore I am counting those games as tougher games, due to the fact that UD could not schedule another tougher home and home series opponent, since that would force UD to then play a 15/15 schedule, which we all know is NEVER going to happen.

Those Miami at UD games were not buy games for UD.
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I will give you 2015-2016, where we played a similar schedule.

But no...not similar...weaker this year...last year we had 5 a/n games along with Vanderbilt and SMC at home.

2014-2015...same thing 5 a/n along with GT and Ole Miss at home.

2013-2014...again 5 a/n...USC and Murray State(2 for 1 contract)at home

2012-2013...5 a/n...Miami and Illinois State at home as part of home and home contracts

And then the A10 years where we did sometimes play 6 a/n along with 3 tougher home games that were part of home and home contracts, due to the 16 game league schedule, instead of 18 league games.
And in 2015-16, we had Top 25 Non-Conf SOS.
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No, I totally disagree.

The Miami at UD games were part of home and home contracts. UD was locked into those games at UD due to the home and home contract, therefore I am counting those games as tougher games, due to the fact that UD could not schedule another tougher home and home series opponent, since that would force UD to then play a 15/15 schedule, which we all know is NEVER going to happen.

Those Miami at UD games were not buy games for UD.
Which is nonsense. If we were returning the games to Akron/Ball State, would those games than be tougher this year in your eyes? It really has no effect on the current schedule.

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I am railing against the schedule. Why are we going backwards with scheduling this year? We could not find one more good home and home series this year? What changed vs. last year?

Last year, we had Vandy and SMC at home, this year just Auburn at home. Why?

What good does it do to weaken the schedule? We now may have to win more games to make the NCAAT. It is somewhat of a zero-sum game: if you weaken the schedule, then you have to win more games to make the NCAAT.
Last year, we just had Alabama on the road. This year we have Miss St. and SMC. Same amount of H/H's, just locations switch from year to year.

The one time deal vs. Northwestern in Chicago was a different situation with two seniors from Chicago.

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Which is nonsense. If we were returning the games to Akron/Ball State, would those games than be tougher this year in your eyes? It really has no effect on the current schedule.
Agree, hard to follow ud2's logic on this one, Miami is a tough game because we can't schedule a tougher game? Makes no sense. But then again you have to consider the source.
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No, I totally disagree.

The Miami at UD games were part of home and home contracts. UD was locked into those games at UD due to the home and home contract, therefore I am counting those games as tougher games, due to the fact that UD could not schedule another tougher home and home series opponent, since that would force UD to then play a 15/15 schedule, which we all know is NEVER going to happen.

Those Miami at UD games were not buy games for UD.
Please, just because they were home and home does not mean they are tougher. That is a joke of a way at looking at it. Miami OH was only a H&H because they were a long time rival even though the games have been one sided for a long time.
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In order to schedule a game, the other team has to want to play it too.

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This might not be the best thread in which to post this, but this seemed to be an evolving scheduling discussion so maybe it's appropriate (from The Columbus Dispatch):

Chris Holtmann has promised to beef up his non-conference schedule and appeared amenable to adding in-state opponents at Ohio State. Today, both of those stated goals came to fruition with the news that the Buckeyes have scheduled a home-and-home series with Cincinnati to open the next two seasons.

To open the 2018-19 season, the Bearcats will host the Buckeyes at a newly renovated Fifth Third Arena. The next year, Ohio State will return the favor.
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That's a pretty big deal. OSU hasn't been too keen on playing UC ever since UC beat them in back-to-back NCAA Championship games in 60-61 and 61-62.
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In terms of historical rarities, this is a very big deal. OSU has not played UC in Cincinnati since 1920. UC has not played OSU in Columbus since 1921. They have only played each other 10 times.

I hope that some sort of 4 team series can be set up...OSU, UC, UD, and XU.

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// SERIES HISTORY: OHIO STATE LEADS 6-4

Ohio State leads the all-time series with the Bearcats 6-4. The teams have not met during regular-season play since 1921, which was the home opener for the Buckeyes and the only previous time the teams opened the season against one another. The Bearcats won that game 33-17. Ohio State played host to Cincinnati in five of the first six meetings, going 3-2 in those games. Ohio State has not played the Bearcats in Cincinnati since Jan. 3, 1920, a 35-13 win for the Buckeyes.

Three of the last four meetings have come during NCAA Tournament competition with all of the last four matchups contested on neutral courts. Ohio State was ranked No. 1 while the Bearcats were No. 2 in both the 1961 and 1962 NCAA National Championship games with Cincinnati winning the national title both times.

No. 4 Ohio State downed the Bearcats 72-50 in the Wooden Tradition in Indianapolis Dec. 16, 2006. The most recent meeting was in the 2012 NCAA East Regional Semifinals in Boston, an 81-66 win for the No. 7-ranked Buckeyes.

Date - Result
Feb. 4, 1905 – Ohio State won 42-6 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 15, 1907 – Cincinnati won 32-30 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 16, 1909 – Ohio State won 57-24 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 20, 1912 – Ohio State won 61-15 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 3, 1920 – Ohio State won 35-13 in Cincinnati
Dec. 10, 1921 – Cincinnati won 33-17 in Columbus, Ohio
March 25, 1961 – Cincinnati won 70-65 in overtime in the NCAA Tournament championship game in Kansas City, Missouri
March 24, 1962 – Cincinnati won 71-59 in the NCAA Tournament championship game in Louisville, Kentucky
Dec. 16, 2006 – Ohio State won 72-50 at the Wooden Tradition in Indianapolis
March 22, 2012 – Ohio State won 81-66 in the NCAA East Regional Semifinals in Boston

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In terms of historical rarities, this is a very big deal. OSU has not played UC in Cincinnati since 1920. UC has not played OSU in Columbus since 1921. They have only played each other 10 times.

I hope that some sort of 4 team series can be set up...OSU, UC, UD, and XU.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/spor...018/727151001/:


// SERIES HISTORY: OHIO STATE LEADS 6-4

Ohio State leads the all-time series with the Bearcats 6-4. The teams have not met during regular-season play since 1921, which was the home opener for the Buckeyes and the only previous time the teams opened the season against one another. The Bearcats won that game 33-17. Ohio State played host to Cincinnati in five of the first six meetings, going 3-2 in those games. Ohio State has not played the Bearcats in Cincinnati since Jan. 3, 1920, a 35-13 win for the Buckeyes.

Three of the last four meetings have come during NCAA Tournament competition with all of the last four matchups contested on neutral courts. Ohio State was ranked No. 1 while the Bearcats were No. 2 in both the 1961 and 1962 NCAA National Championship games with Cincinnati winning the national title both times.

No. 4 Ohio State downed the Bearcats 72-50 in the Wooden Tradition in Indianapolis Dec. 16, 2006. The most recent meeting was in the 2012 NCAA East Regional Semifinals in Boston, an 81-66 win for the No. 7-ranked Buckeyes.

Date - Result
Feb. 4, 1905 – Ohio State won 42-6 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 15, 1907 – Cincinnati won 32-30 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 16, 1909 – Ohio State won 57-24 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 20, 1912 – Ohio State won 61-15 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 3, 1920 – Ohio State won 35-13 in Cincinnati
Dec. 10, 1921 – Cincinnati won 33-17 in Columbus, Ohio
March 25, 1961 – Cincinnati won 70-65 in overtime in the NCAA Tournament championship game in Kansas City, Missouri
March 24, 1962 – Cincinnati won 71-59 in the NCAA Tournament championship game in Louisville, Kentucky
Dec. 16, 2006 – Ohio State won 72-50 at the Wooden Tradition in Indianapolis
March 22, 2012 – Ohio State won 81-66 in the NCAA East Regional Semifinals in Boston
Uh, well, I guess that covers that.
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Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
In terms of historical rarities, this is a very big deal. OSU has not played UC in Cincinnati since 1920. UC has not played OSU in Columbus since 1921. They have only played each other 10 times.

I hope that some sort of 4 team series can be set up...OSU, UC, UD, and XU.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/spor...018/727151001/:


// SERIES HISTORY: OHIO STATE LEADS 6-4

Ohio State leads the all-time series with the Bearcats 6-4. The teams have not met during regular-season play since 1921, which was the home opener for the Buckeyes and the only previous time the teams opened the season against one another. The Bearcats won that game 33-17. Ohio State played host to Cincinnati in five of the first six meetings, going 3-2 in those games. Ohio State has not played the Bearcats in Cincinnati since Jan. 3, 1920, a 35-13 win for the Buckeyes.

Three of the last four meetings have come during NCAA Tournament competition with all of the last four matchups contested on neutral courts. Ohio State was ranked No. 1 while the Bearcats were No. 2 in both the 1961 and 1962 NCAA National Championship games with Cincinnati winning the national title both times.

No. 4 Ohio State downed the Bearcats 72-50 in the Wooden Tradition in Indianapolis Dec. 16, 2006. The most recent meeting was in the 2012 NCAA East Regional Semifinals in Boston, an 81-66 win for the No. 7-ranked Buckeyes.

Date - Result
Feb. 4, 1905 – Ohio State won 42-6 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 15, 1907 – Cincinnati won 32-30 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 16, 1909 – Ohio State won 57-24 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 20, 1912 – Ohio State won 61-15 in Columbus, Ohio
Jan. 3, 1920 – Ohio State won 35-13 in Cincinnati
Dec. 10, 1921 – Cincinnati won 33-17 in Columbus, Ohio
March 25, 1961 – Cincinnati won 70-65 in overtime in the NCAA Tournament championship game in Kansas City, Missouri
March 24, 1962 – Cincinnati won 71-59 in the NCAA Tournament championship game in Louisville, Kentucky
Dec. 16, 2006 – Ohio State won 72-50 at the Wooden Tradition in Indianapolis
March 22, 2012 – Ohio State won 81-66 in the NCAA East Regional Semifinals in Boston
Thanks for the history lesson, but what does this have to do with UD? OSU and UC didn't schedule us.
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