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Old 09-03-2011, 08:19 PM
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Need to come out strong against ILL and make this a match. If we can keep the pressure on them we have a chance to knock them off. Need people to step up -- match #6 into a season and it should be all-hands-on-deck ready to throw everything Flyer Volleyball has at them.
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TN/Houston just going to the 5th. Our match will be at least 30-45 minutes late.
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Houston up 10-7 in 5th.
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Houston knocks off TN 15-8 in 5th. UD will either finish alone in 2nd or tied for 1st in this tournament. I perfer the latter. lol. Dang. What do you mean I don't get to vote?

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Announcer volume is way too low. I expect better from a big ten team.
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UD leads 9-4. Timeout Ill.
Krabacher is playing well. Doing great hitting from the back row.
Yvonne Marten is playing. Has already had an impact. Couple of points.
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Timeout UD

Flyers up 18-15
Dayton needs a little more killer instinct.
Had a few free balls on one of the most recent plays but couldn't finish.
Need this first set.
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Need this first set.
Got it - 25-18
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Nothing too special.
The block didn't look dominant.
The serve wasn't dominant. Illinois has been passing pretty well.

I'm a little worried given that it seemed Dayton scored a bunch from Ill unforced errors. Haven't checked the box score on gametracker. Ill 5 attack errors. Dayton 1.
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UD up 15-12 in the 2nd
Ill timeout

Selsky is playing pretty well. Has made some great decisions about when to attach on the second touch. She really helped finish off the 1st set.

Illinois has also had a few net violations in the 1st.
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UD up 2-0 going into half time. Wow! We gave up 3 service errors to end the 2nd set and still won 25-20. I'd say the girls are pumped up for this one.

Keep the pressure on and nail a lid on this one. GO FLYERS!!!
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UD is hitting .410 as a team with only 2 hitting errors. That tells me the passing and serve receive is solid and most importantly Sam is doing one heck of a job placing the ball for the hitters. She must be putting on a clinic right now.
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Good start. Quite honestly, I was concerned we would not win a match this weekend. Just getting Houston and taking UT to five and pushing Illinois to possibly 5 I think is a very good result no matter what happens the rest of this match.

That said, it will be 10 times harder to win one of the last three sets against Illinois than it was winning just one of the first two. They will come out like a house of fire and the crowd will back them up. UD has been in this spot in the past against the elites and have never been able to close it out. I want to see some empirical evidence that they can close the door before I buy stock. In the past, this would always be a five set loss to the Top-15 team after getting ahead. Do we fall back to that habit, or as Becky said put the hammer down and stick a fork in things.
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Everyone of our attackers is hitting well:
Yvonne: .455
Shayne: .444
Sam: .600
Megan: .455
Kray: .353


Dayton making the most of their opportunities, and few errors.
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You are right Chris --- we've been here or close to here before. We win this match and it's Sheff's biggest win at UD. I sent a PM to UDBrian about Sheff in the post TN video. He is usually up beat even in a loss -- personally I didn't get any of that from him in this video. I'm sure the coaching staff had this team focused only on taking it to ILL. And adding to that, Sheff has a lot of coaching friends in the Big 10 - Purdue, Michigan, Illinois -- that go way back. And he has to recruit against all of them. Big 10 matches are very important to Sheff.
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Illinois up 6-3. We gotta know they aren't going to roll over.
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Ill up 12-7
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12-7 ILL. Timeout UD. Good TO -- right after an ILL service ace. Gotta re-group here and make a run.
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Ill up 18-13
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Kraybacher played really well a few plays back.
Made a great serve followed by a great 1st attack.
Than put her 2nd attach attempt down for the kill.
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ILL 18-13. Sheff calls his 2nd timeout. I think this is a good coaching move. we've basically exchanged points with them. No runs by either team. He could have waiting until 21 or 22 -- but calling it know is smart -- giving the team the chance to regroup and make a run before their back is to the wall. But no more timeouts. Players gotta step up now to win this set.
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Illinois is hitting on all cylinders this set. hitting .520 compared to .192 for ud
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Timeout Ill.
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I think Megan Campbell is serving.
She isn't a proven server like Kray. or Morey but she has been good.
Lets hope she can go on a run.
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we've got a shot -- finally got it to within 3 points -- ILL up 23-20. Time out ILL.

Haven't seen any matches this weekend, but if we win this match I pretty sure ILL coach Hamby will be voting Sam MVP of the Tourney. She's close to a triple-double in a 3 set match. Brilliant.
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Going to 4. ILL wins 25-20. Sam has a real shot at a triple-double now. This is very hard to do in volleyball.

Right now she's got:

8 kills
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Illinois wins the set. 25-20
UD up 2-1
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Our team hitting % dropped to .167 that set. Hitting errors were the difference. Clean that up (which could very well be passing, etc.) and we can close this out with a HUGE win.
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Flyers just need to step up their game in just one part of the game.
Not too far from finishing off the Illini. Start the game better and they will have a great chance of winning this.
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Ill 10-4. Time out UD. We've got to calm down and get back to Flyer volleyball. ILL stepped up their game coming out of halftime -- especially their defense. We have to do the same and make a run. We haven't scored more than 2 consecutive points in sets 3 or 4. Time to do that is now.
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Our biggest run of the last 2 sets (3 points) -- ILL 12-8. Time out ILL. UD serving (Von).
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Ill 12-8

Dayton has cut it to 4.
Dayton playing well right now. If they can keep this momentum, this is their chance to make a run.
Yvonne is serving well. Placing the ball deep, and Ill. back row can't seem to get a good pass.
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Looks like Ill. will push it to 5, but you never know. Have not been to 5 sets. Just pushing Ill to 5 sets would be an accomplishment.
I want a win. Because the Flyers can beat this Ill. team.
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Timeout Ill.
Ill. 23-20

Selsky serving well.
UD looks better than set 3.
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HUGE block by Shayne and Z. Ill up 21-18 but Dayton on a run. Timeout ILL.

Let's go Flyers!!! Steal this one and get out of the gym!

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Dang it! ILL takes set 4 25-23. Well nothing that's happened the last 2 hours matters now. It's a trackmeet to 15 points and we HAVE TO get out quick. ILL took quick leads in sets 3-4 and we could never catch up. Time to take it to another level and turn this tide.

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Geezzzzz - it's almost midnight. Kray's taken almost 15-0 swings today. We need a couple more girlfriend! Gotta think our senior - Von -- is all over everyone to step it up and pull out this win.

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Ill takes the 3rd 25-23

UD looked much better in the end of the 4th.
The 5th set will be REALLY GOOD!
Both teams are playing their best vball right now.


Vargas served well at the end. All 3 serves were good. I thought UD would get that the point off her last serve. Vargas has not served that well earlier in the match. Glad to see her pick it up at the end. This will be fun.

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Timeout UD. ILL up 10-6. I personally wanted to see a timeout at 9-6. We haven't been able to close a 3 point gap -- so I didn't want to see 4.
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Timeout UD. ILL up 12-9. Sam got her triple. Amazing feat.

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ILL wins 15-12. Tough loss for a young team. But Chris' comments above are 100% correct. We took a very good TN team to 5 sets and a GREAT Illinois team to 5 sets. We will learn from this and be better going forward. You just have to feel for the girls. Two tough losses today. Get after it again starting Monday -- 3 great opportunities to bury these losses with 3 great wins next weekend.
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Just saw we lost 15-12. Anyone know how the final points played out?
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Nice effort but same ol same ol when it come to top 15 teams. Just can't get over the hump.

Just about what was expected for the weekend. Nothing to hang your head over just couldn't finish Tenn or Illinois.

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Yuch. Can't close the deal. We actually outpointed the Illini. Two 5 set losses today. Let's hope the ladies don't hang their heads but build on the quality of play.
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Last years team got swept by Illinois at Nebraska. This year's team takes Illinois to 5 on their home court. Tough loss, but you gotta break down the film and build on all the positives and get back to working on what needs to be improved.

I hurt for the team, but I'm confident they will take this and move forward. It's about were we finish, not what happens in week #2.
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Good effort this weekend. The ILL match was quite predictable however and while I didnt come out and specifically say it, I still put UDs chances at about 10-1 to win the match after being up 2-0. Thats not because UD wasnt playing well, but you have to understand that Illinois is a full step up in pay grade talent wise. Teams like that know how to re-group, jack themselves up, and "start playing".

We see that quite often with UD when UD plays a team below UD. The opponent plays very well, causes us issues, but then we somehow pull it out in five sets. No different here. Just two different levels of vball. You can only keep the more talented team down for so long. They arent going to roll over when their back is against the wall.

Still, I call it an unqualified success this weekend. I didnt think we'd win a match, and we beat Houston and took the other two teams to five sets. Quite honestly given our relative talent level compared to the past couple of years, massive youth movement, and inexperience, I think UD played up to or above their pay grade all weekend.

You gotta like that effort and attitude and it should serve well next weekend. As I said last week, I dont think this is a Top-25 team, but I think it could be by season end. The losses are still losses and the NCAA committee doesnt care about close losses. But from a confidence standpoint, I think we got better this weekend.

I think we're a better team on Monday and thats a good thing. This is a completely different team compared to the Cowdrey/Beck/Flete years. As different as night and day. So, fans need to be a little patient with them and not get bent out of shape at close losses like this.

Quite honestly, I doubt last year's team performs better this weekend despite all those stars from 2010. I think that says a lot about the CURRENT team.
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Put this in perspective - with last year's very senior-laden team, Illinois came out and torched them pretty convincingly on a neutral floor. I saw a LOT of those same names - Ward, Bartsch, etc - on this Illinois squad, and this young Flyers team just took them to a fifth set in their own building. That's the positive.

The downside? As Chris mentioned, couldn't close it out. I've watched this team rally against Saint Louis two years ago and win the first-ever NCAA match that saw all five sets decided by two points last year at Xavier, so it's not a matter of being able to do it, it's a matter of being able to do it against big-time, elite programs in BCS conferences. Michigan two years ago, Ohio State last year, and now Illinois. I could even include Illinois two years ago, Nebraska last year, and Tennessee this year. I know the coaches and players must be frustrated, but it only takes to do it one time and the monkey comes off the back. Two shots this weekend with Michigan and Florida State in town. Win one of those two as a three-set, hammer-down sweep OR as a come-from-behind-five-set-thriller and that could be the needed match to finally get this team over the proverbial hump, because that's all that's keeping this program from being mentioned in the same breath as all of the other top-tier programs.
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Can't be too disappointed. This Ill. team was very good. Ill. made some adjustments and got the win. As an inexperienced UD team we played Ill. really well. Rachel, Megan, Vargas, Isolde, Sam, and Shayne played really well. I think UD will take a lot from this match.

Although Tenn. got the win against them, the UD 5 set match shows how good they are. Next week well be a huge measuring stick. If UD plays as well as they do today they will get a lot of wins next week. Illinois is a great team and Tenn. will be at the top of the SEC. As far as points go, this UD team was so close to the Illini. Given what they accomplished the first week, a win and 2 5 set losses against great competition doesn't feel bad. I wouldn't be shocked if they fall out of the top 25, but this team is still better than I thought they were. And improving at a great pace.

If some teams don't think we deserve a top 25 ranking, it happens. But the Illini know for sure we are that good and improving every match. Next week should be good. I think Pepperdine, Florida St., and Michigan are all even competition.
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According to the Illinois coach, after intermission they picked up their energy and concentrated on slowing down Dayton's potent offense which allowed UI to go on the attack more and gain the momentum.

No question about it, UI was impressed with Dayton's very young team.

If I read it right this is the first time UI beat Dayton in a five set match.
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I agree with Chris and 19 above. I saw almost every set last weekend and to be honest, we didn't play that great. As a Top 25 team (which was based soley on respect the program had earned over the last 3-8 years - my how far we have come!) we should have handled three teams in the 150-180 RPI category in sweeps and probably most set under 15 points. We did not. We even dropped a couple sets. But we were a young team learning how to use and max out our talent. So there was work to be done this past week and the girls got after it. They came out of film session and got to work fixing a lot. 19 is right...they are on a very fast pace which is impressive.

This week we go 1-2. I didn't see any of the matches (was limited to GT), but you don't sweep a very good Houston team and take and great #26 TN and #7 ILL to 5 sets -- with a chance to win both matches, and not say you are now playing like a Top 25 team. PLUS, how good is ILL? Add in the following:

#2 PSU is 4-1 with a loss to #16 Oregon
#3 USC is 3-2 with losses to #2 PSU and unranked Central Florida
#4 TX is 4-2 with two losses to #11 Minnesota
#5 NE is 3-1 with a loss to #15 Co State

#7 ILL is 6-0 -- both ILL and MN will move up in the polls this week. ILL is probably a Top 5 team right now and we took them to 5 sets. How good is UD right now and how much better will we be before season's end?

I don't know what the coaches will vote this week, but I think we only proved we ARE a Top 25 team with our weekend results. I feel this team has come a long way in a very short period of time and next weekend --- IN FRERICKS --- it should be a whole lot of fun with #24 MI, #25 FL St and #27 Pepperdine.

I feel this weekend's performance really transistioned this team away from last year's and forged it's own identity. They need to attack this week just like last and come out of the film session hitting the gym hard to fix some areas of their game and in front of their home crowd this weekend put last year's team to rest. We saw this same thing after the Faye Barnhorst-era. How are we going to replace her, etc? And that next year's team came out and forged it's own greatness. It took a couple weekends before we weren't all still talking about the year before anymore, but we soon started hailing the current year's team.

This weekend the current UD team can do the same and after the TN and ILL matches I'm very confident they will do just that. I woke up this morning KNOWING we've got a Top 25 team. I could not say that last Sunday. It was a very good week to be a Flyer!

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I noticed that Colleen Ward from Illinois stepped up and had five kills in the fifth set. Megan didn't have a great match. I'm sure that her play has been noticed by opposing coaches. Sheff said that opposing coaches will game plan for Kray. I think Megan is probably reaching that point with her play so far. I'll bet Illinois did not treat her as just another player yesterday

Sheff made it clear that they want to be playing their best vball in november and december. But, it isn't easy to lose a match you could have won. I think the team will play well this weekend.
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Originally Posted by BeckysTXA View Post
#2 PSU is 4-1 with a loss to #16 Oregon
#3 USC is 3-2 with losses to #2 PSU and unranked Central Florida
#4 TX is 4-2 with two losses to #11 Minnesota
#5 NE is 3-1 with a loss to #15 Co State
Mentioning the losses is one thing, but USC was swept by Central Florida, and Texas was swept both times against Minnesota. Impressive.

BTW, my initial RPI numbers for Dayton are #14 using H/A:1.4/0.6, and #18 if location doesn't matter. Next weekends opponents: Michigan (41/40), Florida State (85/76), Pepperdine (193/172). (RPI numbers include 775 games, mostly from ncaa.org, but the rest found from me. Plenty of games still missing, though, but mostly from lower level teams...)

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Figgie -- I have a subscription to Richkern.com and he has pretty much all the scores cause he runs his own RPI and Pablo and adds NCAA's RPI. Annual membership is $25 - or PM me with what scores you are missing and I'll look them up for you.
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All you have to do is look at the picture of Hammer standing in a sea of orange (on df.com) and you get a great picture of how tough this match was for a young team...and we still compteted at a very high level.

Also, after 6 matches our team hitting % is .251. Last year we finished at .260 -- which I believe set a new record for UD. This year's team has a great chance to set a new record. You get in the .270+ and your are in the Top 10 nationally.
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I like how you mentioned that pic of Kray and the illini fans. To be honest, our team really handled the pressure much better at the start. You would expect the inexperienced road team to be the one with a lot of errors at the start before they settle down. It was completely the opposite. The illini were the team the had error after error. The orange had numerous net violations, hitting errors, and finished with 13 SE compared to our 6 SE.

The composure our team displayed in a rowdy Big 10 environment was REMARKABLE!
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where is pic of Kray? All I see on df.com is Megan.
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I see the Megan pic too. Must have just assumed it was Kray. I saw the picture when it was very late.

Still, great composure from the Flyers.
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Just in case you didn't know. Megan's nickname is THE HAMMER. They called her that last year but Sheff referred to her as THE HAMMER in the quotes in my first article. I think Beckystxa figured that everyone knew her nickname. She was also responding to my comment that megan did not have a great match. I expect that Illinois payed a lot of attention to her since she was hitting over .400 for the year and they saw her play two previous matches

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