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Old 10-17-2017, 10:19 AM
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UD picked to finish 5th in the A10

1 Rhode Island
2 St. Bonaventure
3 St. Joe's
4 VCU
5 Dayton
6 Davidson
7 Saint Louis
8 Richmond
9 La Salle
10 George Mason
11 GW
12 UMass
13 Fordham
14 Duquesne

No UD Players on any of the 3 preseason teams or all-defensive team

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Old 10-17-2017, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
1 Rhode Island
2 St. Bonaventure
3 St. Joe's
4 VCU
5 Dayton
6 Davidson
7 Saint Louis
8 Richmond
9 La Salle
10 George Mason
11 GW
12 UMass
13 Fordham
14 Duquesne

No UD Players on any of the 3 preseason teams or all-defensive team

Use it as motivation!
I would have swapped UD and VCU, but other than that, not much I can disagree with.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:20 PM
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After doing some more reading about each team, I think 5th might be a best case scenario and 7th/8th might be our destiny. UGH!
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8th is much closer to the truth than I want to admit but that is reality!!
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:24 PM
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Here are two reasons why I think people are underestimating this year's team. (1) Two of the freshmen are not freshmen at all (Svoboda and Antetokounmpo), and I expect them to play like veterans on day 1. (2) The style of play that Grant is going to have this team play is well suited for the (long) players we have, and I believe it will give us an advantage over the vast majority of the A10 competition we play.

Long story short, I think we will be in contention for the league championship, and if luck is on our side we may win the whole thing.
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I think SLU is being underestimated. Dont think they are 1 or 2, but they could be top four. VCU's on their 3rd coach in 4 years.
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SLU has four players accused of sexual assault so that combined with integrating so many transfers has them up in the air

5th seems fair to me all things considered. To me the whole league is in flux outside of Rhody. There's pretty legit questions marks about everyone but them
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If Grants gets us to 5th and an NIT bid with as many injuries, absences, and unknowns as we have, he deserves consideration for A10 COY.
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Really? In a year we lost our best senior class in school history, are in a clear rebuilding year, after a coaching change this is unacceptable? I think 5th is pretty fair with the unknowns we have going into the season.
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This was going to be a challenging year regardless who was at the helm.

I will be watching this year to see how much the team improves from start to finish. Will tell me more about expectation going forward.
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will be 19-11 overall and 9-9 in A-10 play. They will play in the N.I.T.
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If Crosby plays to his potential there's no reason we can't be 5th or better.

And if he doesn't, there's no reason to expect we'll be better than 8th or worse.
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will be 19-11 overall and 9-9 in A-10 play. They will play in the N.I.T.
That means 10-2 in the non-con, that could be a stretch.
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SLU has four players accused of sexual assault
Wow, no idea this happened. Second time for SLU in the past 5 years.
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I expect this team to be not so good in November and December. They'll still win games they are supposed to win, but not expecting great things in Charleston. By January, they have the potential to be a very good team. Still, I don't expect them to win on the road very often.
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Originally Posted by m21eagle45 View Post
Really? In a year we lost our best senior class in school history, are in a clear rebuilding year, after a coaching change this is unacceptable? I think 5th is pretty fair with the unknowns we have going into the season.
Yep. Competing for A-10 championships every year should be the expectation. That's mine at least.

Doesn't hurt I believe in the talent we will have on the floor this year. As well as the system said talent will be playing in.

I honestly believe this team will be a scary one down the stretch and has all the potential in the world to go dancing....
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I mean who the hell is coaching this team Brian Gregory??
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Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski View Post
Yep. Competing for A-10 championships every year should be the expectation. That's mine at least.

Doesn't hurt I believe in the talent we will have on the floor this year. As well as the system said talent will be playing in.

I honestly believe this team will be a scary one down the stretch and has all the potential in the world to go dancing....
I agree with most of this, but every team has a rebuilding year. Even Duke 2 years ago was 11-7 in the ACC and finished 5th in the league. As long as we are back at the top for the next 4 or 5 years, I can accept a middle of the pack rebuild for 1 year.
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I decided that I should go on record with this before the first game.

My prediction for the Grant era: better than BG, much worse than Archie, and worse than OP.

Compared to Archie, the AG era is going to be a big letdown and a disappointment, but it will not be downright awful, it will just leave you wanting more and expecting more.

I think that he will ultimately be fired or leave under pressure.

I really hope that I am wrong.

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Originally Posted by RamodWaleskowski View Post
Yep. Competing for A-10 championships every year should be the expectation. That's mine at least.

Doesn't hurt I believe in the talent we will have on the floor this year.

...has all the potential in the world to go dancing....
I edited your post to reflect the parts that I agree with.
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I decided that I should go on record with this before the first game.

My prediction for the Grant era: better than BG, much worse than Archie, and worse than OP.

Compared to Archie, the AG era is going to be a big letdown and a disappointment, but it will not be downright awful, it will just leave you wanting more and expecting more.

I think that he will ultimately be fired or leave under pressure.

I really hope that I am wrong.

Bring on the red pips.
Just now going on record? You have been saying this since the second he was hired that it was a bad hire and disappointment.

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Compared to Archie, the AG era is going to be a big letdown and a disappointment, but it will not be downright awful, it will just leave you wanting more and expecting more.
I can accept that this could be a rebuilding year, but my overriding fear when UD hired AG is that this scenario happens. What level of mediocrity is going to be accepted by UD and for how long? How much extra leeway does AG get because he is an alum? Hopefully this discussion doesn't have to be had 3 or 4 years from now.
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I can accept that this could be a rebuilding year, but my overriding fear when UD hired AG is that this scenario happens. What level of mediocrity is going to be accepted by UD and for how long? How much extra leeway does AG get because he is an alum? Hopefully this discussion doesn't have to be had 3 or 4 years from now.
I think those are fair questions to ask but I also think it's fair to look at where things are, and where things are going from a broader perspective. How much wiggle room will members of the A10 have from a scheduling perspective five yrs down the road? The AAC added a quality team in WSU. When bubble spots are up for grabs how might that help the 3rd, 4th or even 5th team in the AAC when compared to the same in the A10?

I'm not trying to tee up ready made excuses for AG if things don't work out and I have high expectations too. That said, I think there are subtle changes coming to the college basketball landscape that are not favorable to UD or the A10 and everyone needs to consider these facts (not excuses) when attempting to compare AG to previous coaching records.
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If Crosby plays to his potential there's no reason we can't be 5th or better.

And if he doesn't, there's no reason to expect we'll be better than 8th or worse.
I'm not sure anyone knows Crosby's "potential" yet.
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Wow, no idea this happened. Second time for SLU in the past 5 years.
Since the 09/24 event and an informative ESPN article on 10/09, it seems quiet about the allegations to four St. Louis men's basketball players and three girls (2 students at SLU and one not an SLU student). The article says that practices have been closed to the media. It has been very quiet. Clearly, if SLU loses four players for the entire season; the impact to their season would be significant. But more importantly, the lives of 7 people will have forever been changed. This situation seems sad for everyone connected. Where are the chaperone's? Yes, i know. What a medievel concept that is? I guess today, we call it, a wing-man? Sam Miller needed a wing-man, as well. All of this stuff is sad.

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Graduated Scoochie, Kyle, Kendall, and Cooke. Lose Miller and Mikesell. That's six right off the top of the cake. Throw in losing your coach and bringing in an entirely new staff. That counts/feels like another 1-2 player loss for about 1.0-1.5 seasons. Kostas is recovering from injury and lost practice time in the summer -- and is a frosh.

This is not a new team. Its literally a new program. Grant is not showing up like BG did with Ramod and Waleskowski to ease into things. There isn't a single preseason All Conference player on offense or defense.

UD was picked 5th. That means of St. Joe, Bonnie, URI, Davidson, and VCU, he would finish ahead of at least one of those teams given the obstacles I just outlined. As good as this league is, if AG can finish ahead of all but 4 teams given the seismic unknowns, its gonna be Archie Who around here pretty soon.
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No surprise here.

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No surprise here.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...-back-in-2018/
How comes when VCU went from Smart to Wade to Rhoades, they didn't have to go through a "3 year rebuild"? They just reloaded each time. Why can't we do that?


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How comes when VCU went from Smart to Wade to Rhoades, they didn't have to go through a "3 year rebuild"? They just reloaded each time. Why can't we do that?


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Smart and Wade didn't leave behind a roster full of questions that has also been hurt by injuries and suspension. To date, the big junior class can be thought of as either an unknown or a disappointment depending on how you look at it. The loss of Big Steve was also a huge set back that nobody could see coming. Yes there is talent on the team, but there are too many unknowns.

When looking at VCU, they have just recruited better than us especially the last few classes. And in my opinion, that is on Archie. I do not think he did enough to strike while the iron was hot. If the Dwayne Cohill story is true (which I believe it is) then I am glad he is gone if he didn't think UD was good enough for top targets. Even with the coaching turnover at VCU, they have been able to pull in multiple top 100 kids each class while still adding impact transfers. Khris Lane and Issac Vann are both established transfers that will come in and help them to continue on from where they have been. We have not added that impact transfer each class.

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Archie stopped recruiting him early because basically he thought he was too good for UD... which is unacceptable IMO
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Smart and Wade didn't leave behind a roster full of questions that has also been hurt by injuries and suspension. To date, the big junior class can be thought of as either an unknown or a disappointment depending on how you look at it. The loss of Big Steve was also a huge set back that nobody could see coming. Yes there is talent on the team, but there are too many unknowns.

When looking at VCU, they have just recruited better than us especially the last few classes. And in my opinion, that is on Archie. I do not think he did enough to strike while the iron was hot. If the Dwayne Cohill story is true (which I believe it is) then I am glad he is gone if he didn't think UD was good enough for top targets. Even with the coaching turnover at VCU, they have been able to pull in multiple top 100 kids each class while still adding impact transfers. Khris Lane and Issac Vann are both established transfers that will come in and help them to continue on from where they have been. We have not added that impact transfer each class.

That is why it is a rebuild for us and a reload for VCU.
No reason for Dwayne Cohill to make up a story that Archie told him he was too good for UD! I also believe it is true! I went to Memphis for the elite eight run and the atmosphere was such that I have never experienced. Flyer fans took over Beale St. and the FedExForum! After that season, if there ever was a time to strike while the iron was hot that should have been it. Many coaches would have been milking that for all it was worth going after 4 and 5 star athletes on the recruiting trail! I know Shaka Smart, at VCU at the time, would have! Anthony Grant definitely would have and that is why we should be happy that he is presently our coach. He does not shy away from recruiting 4 and 5 stars!

Granted, we lost four great seniors, one great center, one not so great center, and one good forward in Mikesell. We have to hope that this season we have a few diamonds in the rough and surprise a lot of people because there are many unknowns.
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I get the history with Archie. My confusion is despite that we got a verbal commitment. So now he’s considering withdrawing that? Thanks for the clarification.
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Absolutely unacceptable and it makes me angrier every time I read that Archie was recruiting like that.
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No. Cohill is still committed to UD.

In a Jablonski article about Cohill's commitment Dwayne said that UD stopped recruiting him when Archie was here because Archie told him he was too good to play at UD.

It basically sounds like Archie was scared to recruit highly rated players because he didn't think he could win recruiting battles against bigger schools. So he would just settle for guys that weren't as highly rated.
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Nothing wrong with having high expectation, but the reality of the situation is that the pick of 5 is on par...and that's if things go well.

You don't deplete a roster of veterans that took a team to places this program hasn't been in decades and replace them easily. New coaching staff. Injuries. Suspension. New blood

These aren't excuses, but simple reasons why they probably won't finish 1st and go deep in the tournament. We all know that is the expectation, but those need to be tempered with reality.
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Thanks my bad. I thought the reference that he’s gone was re Dwayne. I see it’s Archie in rereading. I can now enjoy my morning coffee.
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No. Cohill is still committed to UD.

In a Jablonski article about Cohill's commitment Dwayne said that UD stopped recruiting him when Archie was here because Archie told him he was too good to play at UD.

It basically sounds like Archie was scared to recruit highly rated players because he didn't think he could win recruiting battles against bigger schools. So he would just settle for guys that weren't as highly rated.
I agree, the Archie/Cohill story is upsetting.

But, it is not like Archie was a slouch on the recruiting trail: Sibert 4 stars, Derenbecker 4 stars, Scoochie 4 stars, Kyle Davis 4 stars, Kostas 4 stars, and Josh Cunningham 4 stars.

UD has never had anywhere near that many 4 star players brought in by the same coach.

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I agree, the Archie/Cohill story is upsetting.

But, it is not like Archie was a slouch on the recruiting trail: Sibert 4 stars, Derenbecker 4 stars, Scoochie 4 stars, Kyle Davis 4 stars, Kostas 4 stars, and Josh Cunningham 4 stars.

UD has never had anywhere near that many 4 star players.
But 67% of those guys are gone and they were not replaced with 4 star guys. 3 of those 6 were transfers that either left after a coaching change (Cunningham), didn't see the floor (Sibert), or had personal issues (Derenbecker). As for Kyle and Scoochie they were not consensus 4 star players. The only consensus 4 star he recruited recruited out of HS was Kostas and he had academic issues.

If Archie was telling players they were too good for UD, how many potential players did we miss out on that may have actually committed here. Instead he was settling for the lower rated players.

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I agree, the Archie/Cohill story is upsetting.

But, it is not like Archie was a slouch on the recruiting trail: Sibert 4 stars, Derenbecker 4 stars, Scoochie 4 stars, Kyle Davis 4 stars, Kostas 4 stars, and Josh Cunningham 4 stars.

UD has never had anywhere near that many 4 star players brought in by the same coach.
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I agree, the Archie/Cohill story is upsetting.

But, it is not like Archie was a slouch on the recruiting trail: Sibert 4 stars, Derenbecker 4 stars, Scoochie 4 stars, Kyle Davis 4 stars, Kostas 4 stars, and Josh Cunningham 4 stars.

UD has never had anywhere near that many 4 star players brought in by the same coach.
Not sure where you got that Kyle and Scoochie were 4 stars. Rivals had Kyle a 3-star, ESPN had him a 2-star, and 247Sports gave him 3 stars. Scoochie got 3 stars from ESPN, 3 stars from 247Sports, and 4 stars from Rivals. Those are the only rankings I could find. As m21eagle45 posted, they certainly were not consensus 4-stars.
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4 stars from Scout.

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Not sure where you got that Kyle and Scoochie were 4 stars. Rivals had Kyle a 3-star, ESPN had him a 2-star, and 247Sports gave him 3 stars. Scoochie got 3 stars from ESPN, 3 stars from 247Sports, and 4 stars from Rivals. Those are the only rankings I could find. As m21eagle45 posted, they certainly were not consensus 4-stars.
Scoochie 4 stars from Rivals.

I think a non-consensus 4 star player should still count for something.

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But 67% of those guys are gone and they were not replaced with 4 star guys. 3 of those 6 were transfers that either left after a coaching change (Cunningham), didn't see the floor (Sibert), or had personal issues (Derenbecker). As for Kyle and Scoochie they were not consensus 4 star players. The only consensus 4 star he recruited recruited out of HS was Kostas and he had academic issues.

If Archie was telling players they were too good for UD, how many potential players did we miss out on that may have actually committed here. Instead he was settling for the lower rated players.
Oh, come on. He brought in 6 non-consensus 4 star players. No other UD coach has ever come close to touching that kind of recruiting success.
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#7...Darrell Davis, 4 stars from 247sports.

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4 stars from Scout.

https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/kyle-davis
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Oh, come on. He brought in 6 non-consensus 4 star players. No other UD coach has ever come close to touching that kind of recruiting success.
Most of those players don't average out at 4 star grades. If you have to pick and choose different sites to make your point then you don't have ground to stand on. Now if you just used 1 site across the board and and didn't check the others I could give you the benefit of the doubt, but that is not what you are doing.
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#7...Darrell Davis, 4 stars from 247sports.

https://dayton.247sports.com/Team/Da...ster?Year=2015
I forgot about DD was a consensus 4 star.
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I'm not sure anyone knows Crosby's "potential" yet.
Fair point.

I'm really looking at how quick he is with the ball when he's NOT dribbling at his eyeballs, how good of a shooter he was when NOT forcing the shot, and how good his passes were when he WAS taking care of the ball.

If we assumed that was his natural level and he was playing below it previously, then he'll be very good (not quite as good as SS someday but not terrible). If the crap we saw previously really is his natural level then we might lose our scrimmage against non D1 competition.

But I really do believe his prior issues were confidence not ability, and a good player is hiding in there somewhere.
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Most of those players don't average out at 4 star grades. If you have to pick and choose different sites to make your point then you don't have ground to stand on. Now if you just used 1 site across the board and and didn't check the others I could give you the benefit of the doubt, but that is not what you are doing.
Minimizing the accomplishments of UD players to support your argument against Archie is so childish.
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The article also makes me think about how serious those Saint Louis allegations are. Seems like there may be substantial fallout. Just as they are starting to gain traction, 4 knuckleheads may torpedo the entire program. Not good for the league and certainly not for the SLU program. And just when when the Arch Baron Cup was really taking off! (read sarcasm for those without a sense of humor)
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Minimizing the accomplishments of UD players to support your argument against Archie is so childish.
I am not minimizing anything. Just stating different sites opinions and averaging it out like the 247 webpage does for every athlete for basketball and football.
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Trouble is the services are often divided on the star ratings of players. Such was the case you were arguing against. In fact seldom are players given the same star rating per the three big scouting services, Rivals, Scout, ESPN. 247 sports is typically a football recruiting service, imo
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I guess that's one view.

Here's DD's view of the Flyers:

Davis:" This team can do a lot. We’re so versatile. We have people who can play all types of positions. I feel this team has more talent than we did last year with Kostas (Antetokounmpo) being the guy who he is, Xeryius (Williams) being a guy who can interchange, Trey (Landers) being able to play multiple positions. We’re lengthy, athletic and can shoot the ball from all five positions. I feel like we have a great chance to win the conference title again."

More talent than last year? wow. Maybe more Freshmen potential than last year's talented Seniors as Freshmen. Whatever, we are going to be exciting and we can expect the unexpected all season long. Can't wait.
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We are all excited but one thing to keep in mind coach/player turnover, look at VCU.

I know it is just an exhibition but Liberty went to the Siegel Center last night and beat VCU by 16.

We are going to have our ups and downs but it will be a fun/stressful ride.
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Trouble is the services are often divided on the star ratings of players. Such was the case you were arguing against. In fact seldom are players given the same star rating per the three big scouting services, Rivals, Scout, ESPN. 247 sports is typically a football recruiting service, imo
Which is why I like to look at all 4 sites and average out their ratings since all the sites have a differing opinion. I think the logical thought is that the player is somewhere in the middle. If 1 site has a player as a 4 star and 3 others have him as a 2 star then I don't think it's accurate to come out stating he is a 4 star player ignoring the other 3 sites just to fit an argument.

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The big unknown is Kostas. His brother is a phenomenal talent. He is long. Pierce is long. Xeyrius is long. Josh will be better. Like it or not, both Ryan and Sam were kind of stiff last year - nothing special. I think this team will surprise and be much better than expected.
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Never watch the NBA, but I watched about a quarter of Milwaukee last night. Wow, the Greek Freak is just that! He is like Lebron on steroids.
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Do yourselves a favor and watch some Greek Freak highlights. If Kostas is 1/10 the player, we'll have a star
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I guess that's one view.

Here's DD's view of the Flyers:

Davis:" This team can do a lot. We’re so versatile. We have people who can play all types of positions. I feel this team has more talent than we did last year with Kostas (Antetokounmpo) being the guy who he is, Xeryius (Williams) being a guy who can interchange, Trey (Landers) being able to play multiple positions. We’re lengthy, athletic and can shoot the ball from all five positions. I feel like we have a great chance to win the conference title again."

More talent than last year? wow. Maybe more Freshmen potential than last year's talented Seniors as Freshmen. Whatever, we are going to be exciting and we can expect the unexpected all season long. Can't wait.
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I think there were some internal dynamics that held the Scoochie team back the last 2 years. 2 Years ago it was the gf thing and Cooke. Last year the scoring was off and the forcing by Cooke.

Personally i'm fairly stoked about this year. While it's a rebuilding year, the pieces are intriguing and interesting. Cunningham has experience. XMan killed it. Svoboda and the Greek Freaks' brother, what about Trey Landers?

Lots of unknowns. Also lots of upside. The keys are definitely DD and John Crosby - 2 very big ifs. If we can get solid PG play, low turnovers and guys stroking from 3 (See Svoboda and ?) -- we can have something.

Will take til Dec 31st to truly see what is there. I'm piqued and curious!!
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C'mon I already have my overdose of NBA.
That's why I said "highlights"
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Thumbs up It's almost time!

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ESPN has us as #98...we have some interesting company.

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Here's DD's view of the Flyers:

Davis:" This team can do a lot. We’re so versatile. We have people who can play all types of positions. I feel this team has more talent than we did last year with Kostas (Antetokounmpo) being the guy who he is, Xeryius (Williams) being a guy who can interchange, Trey (Landers) being able to play multiple positions. We’re lengthy, athletic and can shoot the ball from all five positions. I feel like we have a great chance to win the conference title again."

I would agree outside of Scoochie at point.

The issue is does this year's team have as much heart as last year's. Both Kyle and Kendall played with so much heart that we could overlook their physical and shooting limitations. If this years' team can play with the same emotion as last years' team he is right about the chance to win the title.
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The team next to us, NC State, also has a new coach. He just got his fourth verbal from a four star for next year. We have one, and a way to go to climb the ladder.
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