Mustapha in the portal

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Wow, you're really reaching now. Let's say he felt he wanted to leave because he wants to play for a coach that agrees with his own opinion on how he should be used. The fact he didn't go rogue and do it while playing for Grant means he's very unselfish. He bit his tongue so to speak and played the way Grant wanted him to. Do you know how I know this? Because Grant wanted him back. If he was selfish and didn't follow the coaches instructions, Grant wouldn't want him back. This quote is far from ambiguous "I want to be in a big role on a team that has a chance to win. I want to play at a faster pace for a team that will help me get to the next level.”"

This is a fair conclusion.

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by Marysville Flyer Someone else could read his quoted statements and conclude he was a selfish player who didn't want to follow the coaches program so he left. I don't believe that for a minute but he didn't anymore say this than what you concluded.

This level of blind defense is astonishing.

The coaches program has worked exactly one season. Math isn't your strong suit either is it?

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by Furio good luck but not sure how chasing his nba dream is going to be enhanced by a faster system when his biggest draw back is his lack of foot speed even at the A10 level.

Exactly
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[zmz723]

Originally Posted by shocka43 This level of blind defense is astonishing. The coaches program has worked exactly one season. Math isn't your strong suit either is it?

The Archie bashers have moved on to bashing the players who are transferring. The level of loyalty to a guy who has had far more underachieving seasons than overachieving is insane
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[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Translation: If you would like to play on a lower level, team, in a smaller role, that doesn't have a chance to win that plays at a snail's pace and won't help you get to the next level, see Anthony Grant and the Dayton Flyers.

This 100%. Why would any recruit want to sleepwalk in this offense. It does nothing for their draft status, is painful to watch, and is not very successful under CAG.

[superfan99]

Originally Posted by CoffeeCan This 100%. Why would any recruit want to sleepwalk in this offense. It does nothing for their draft status, is painful to watch, and is not very successful under CAG.

Why was it talked about over and over again in 2019-2020 that we had the most efficient offense in the country? What has changed? Just the players or is it a whole different system?

It sure felt like we pushed the ball up the court a lot faster before this year. Was that intentional because of injured guards? If we have healthy faster players, won't we play a faster style offense like in past years?

[Jeff]

https://twitter.com/CantStaphMe/stat...55751879487505

Excellent reflection of Amzil, and teh opposite of reporting.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by Jeff https://twitter.com/CantStaphMe/stat...55751879487505 Excellent reflection of Amzil, and teh opposite of reporting.

Again, you can’t believe what’s posted on Twitter, or in the general media for that matter. People have agendas.
Also, this is why jumping to conclusions is very bad. Makes you look silly.

[rollo]

Mustafa wanting to play 'faster' is a disaster for his 'next level' plans. If he played for FAU or F Dickenson, he'd be the last player down court. He'd never see the f'in ball! His best bet is to transfer to a team that plays a pass it in-and-out offense so he can (slowly) square his feet and shoulders to the basket for a catch and shoot 3-pointer.

Faster?? Be careful what you wish for Amzil.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by rollo Mustafa wanting to play 'faster' is a disaster for his 'next level' plans. If he played for FAU or F Dickenson, he'd be the last player down court. He'd never see the f'in ball! His best bet is to transfer to a team that plays a pass it in-and-out offense so he can (slowly) square his feet and shoulders to the basket for a catch and shoot 3-pointer. Faster?? Be careful what you wish for Amzil.

He probably should have said with more flow. Watching UCLA last night is a good example. Most times Tyger would walk the ball up the court per Cronin's wishes, but the offense would then flow freely and have a purpose with guys actually looking to score or create a shot for someone else.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

By faster, he might mean that the ball moves faster in the half court offense rather than a fast break offense. Just about every offense in di basketball was faster than the Flyers’ offense this year. The average scoring has gone down the last 3 years. The first 3 years under AG is was appreciably higher. They were all at least 72.4 pts/game. We were at 68.6 this year. That’s 11 points/game fewer than our peak year in ‘19-‘20 at 80 points/game. It seems likely that the personnel has made a bigger impact than we recognize.
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[rollo]

If Mustafa wanted a quicker passing offense, he needs to look at his 1-armed push and floating cross-court passes as one YUGE reason the UD offense didn't meet his lofty expectations.

I mean seriously, was there a worse live-action passer on this team than Mustafa??

[steve]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer He probably should have said with more flow. Watching UCLA last night is a good example. Most times Tyger would walk the ball up the court per Cronin's wishes, but the offense would then flow freely and have a purpose with guys actually looking to score or create a shot for someone else.

Mustafa is only wanting what anybody else does that sees real issues with AG's offense. How can you not? Look, an Obi ain't walking thru that door anytime soon and maybe never again so just throwing the rock up at the rim with 3 seconds to go ain't a real fix.

[NJFlyr71]

Watching some of the NCAA games last night highlighted to me how much passing was done to an open man. The passing was crisp, fast and on point.

UD. Not. So. Much.

[Marysville Flyer]

Originally Posted by TA111 Again, you can’t believe what’s posted on Twitter, or in the general media for that matter. People have agendas. Also, this is why jumping to conclusions is very bad. Makes you look silly.

My point exactly in my post. 2 people with opposite perspectives on a topic can use the same simple words to support to conflicting opinions.

I was simply giving an example showing how you could interpret words whatever way you want and spin them to meet your agenda.

I'll trust Amzil over the armchair haters.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by rollo If Mustafa wanted a quicker passing offense, he needs to look at his 1-armed push and floating cross-court passes as one YUGE reason the UD offense didn't meet his lofty expectations. I mean seriously, was there a worse live-action passer on this team than Mustafa??

During the A10 tourney one of the announcers made mention of this- said he made “lazy” passes.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Translation: If you would like to play on a lower level, team, in a smaller role, that doesn't have a chance to win that plays at a snail's pace and won't help you get to the next level, see Anthony Grant and the Dayton Flyers.

Originally Posted by CoffeeCan This 100%. Why would any recruit want to sleepwalk in this offense. It does nothing for their draft status, is painful to watch, and is not very successful under CAG.

Dayton at #352 in possessions per game, that seems bad. Out of 363. No wonder nobody will play at Dayton.

Maybe Mustafa could transfer to a NCAA-bound team. Like Virginia (360). St. Marys (349). Purdue (341). Maryland (338). Penn State (334). Houston (332). Northwestern (319). Duke (313). Tennessee (297).

(Note that 2 of the #1 seeds were >330 out of 363.)

You know, places where they really crank up the offensive possessions.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by Gazoo Dayton at #352 in possessions per game, that seems bad. Out of 363. No wonder nobody will play at Dayton. Maybe Mustafa could transfer to a NCAA-bound team. Like Virginia (360). St. Marys (349). Purdue (341). Maryland (338). Penn State (334). Houston (332). Northwestern (319). Duke (313). Tennessee (297). (Note that 2 of the #1 seeds were >330 out of 363.) You know, places where they really crank up the offensive possessions.

Those teams also commit way less turnovers than we do. These teams protect the ball and make the most of their opportunities. We do not.

Turnover % and Ranking
Virginia 12% 6th
Penn St 12.5% 8th
Northwestern 12.7% 9th
Houston 12.9% 11th
St. Mary's 14.1% t-46th
Maryland 14.3% T-56th
Purdue 14.4% t-63rd
Tenn 15.1% t-100th
Duke 15.4% t-123
Dayton 16.4% T-230.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 Those teams also commit way less turnovers than we do. These teams protect the ball and make the most of their opportunities. We do not. Turnover % and Ranking Virginia 12% 6th Penn St 12.5% 8th Northwestern 12.7% 9th Houston 12.9% 11th St. Mary's 14.1% t-46th Maryland 14.3% T-56th Purdue 14.4% t-63rd Tenn 15.1% t-100th Duke 15.4% t-123 Dayton 16.4% T-230.

So, you're agreeing that "pace" isn't really all that relevant. Glad you agree.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by Gazoo So, you're agreeing that "pace" isn't really all that relevant. Glad you agree.

In the grand scheme of things, pace is irrelevant as long as you are built to play the style you want to play. If you are going to play slow, you need a highly efficient offense, with high basketball iq players, that don't turn the ball over. We turn the ball over too much to overcome the slow pace. Us playing slow and turning the ball over allows inferior teams to stay within striking distance and far too often under AG, beat us.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 In the grand scheme of things, pace is irrelevant as long as you are built to play the style you want to play. If you are going to play slow, you need a highly efficient offense, with high basketball iq players, that don't turn the ball over. We turn the ball over too much to overcome the slow pace. Us playing slow and turning the ball over allows inferior teams to stay within striking distance and far too often under AG, beat us.

You can say that. And I'm not disagreeing with you.



The posters who made the point about pace didn't say that.

[CT Flyer]

Flow...our offense needs more flow.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by rollo If Mustafa wanted a quicker passing offense, he needs to look at his 1-armed push and floating cross-court passes as one YUGE reason the UD offense didn't meet his lofty expectations. I mean seriously, was there a worse live-action passer on this team than Mustafa??

"I loved you when you were with me. When you left I cannot wait to tear you down."

Amzil's not a guard. If you did any home work, you would know his turnovers were far less than any of the other bigs, and several of the guards.

Your opinion may be royal, but it's inaccurate. I get it though, he left the program and therefore he's the enemy.

But, you're a tough guy, uninformed, but a tough guy.

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by m21eagle45 In the grand scheme of things, pace is irrelevant as long as you are built to play the style you want to play. If you are going to play slow, you need a highly efficient offense, with high basketball iq players, that don't turn the ball over. We turn the ball over too much to overcome the slow pace. Us playing slow and turning the ball over allows inferior teams to stay within striking distance and far too often under AG, beat us.

Stop it with all that logic.

[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by Gazoo Dayton at #352 in possessions per game, that seems bad. Out of 363. No wonder nobody will play at Dayton. Maybe Mustafa could transfer to a NCAA-bound team. Like Virginia (360). St. Marys (349). Purdue (341). Maryland (338). Penn State (334). Houston (332). Northwestern (319). Duke (313). Tennessee (297). (Note that 2 of the #1 seeds were >330 out of 363.) You know, places where they really crank up the offensive possessions.

I never said pace was everything.
If it is then Grant should be fired immediately because there is no reason we cant win with that system if other teams are. Or is that not what you are saying?
See...I can put words in your mouth too.

[OSU Flyer]

South Carolina has two transfers in town this weekend…

Dayton F Mustapha Amzil
(9.3 Pts & 4.8 Rebs)
&
Minnesota/Morehead G Ta’Lon Cooper
(9.8 Pts, 4.0 Rebs, 6.3 Rebs)

Pair is currently at the baseball game with some of staff. @ThePortalReport
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[Fudd]

I'm a fan of the new easy transfer portal. I'm a bit sad to see Amzil go, as I always thought he was a decent offensive player who always played within the larger context of the team without demanding the ball, etc. He was a good shooter, in my estimation. He was not that quick and not all that strong in the post, but he was crafty enough to score regularly within 10 ft of the basket on post moves. He almost never made dumb plays.

In other words, he was a good role player, in my opinion. I think that guard and small forward play was our ultimate downfall this year. I was also disappointed in the preparedness of the team before both Smith and Elvis went down in the same game. Our play very early in the season was next to awful. The coaching staff deserves some heat for that.

But you will find me firmly in the camp that likes Anthony Grant and his staff. You win some and you lose some. I like what he and his staff bring to UD.

Despite losing some good players to the portal, I see there is always opportunity to improve the team immediately in that same portal.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Originally Posted by Fudd I'm a fan of the new easy transfer portal. I'm a bit sad to see Amzil go, as I always thought he was a decent offensive player who always played within the larger context of the team without demanding the ball, etc. He was a good shooter, in my estimation. He was not that quick and not all that strong in the post, but he was crafty enough to score regularly within 10 ft of the basket on post moves. He almost never made dumb plays. In other words, he was a good role player, in my opinion. I think that guard and small forward play was our ultimate downfall this year. I was also disappointed in the preparedness of the team before both Smith and Elvis went down in the same game. Our play very early in the season was next to awful. The coaching staff deserves some heat for that. But you will find me firmly in the camp that likes Anthony Grant and his staff. You win some and you lose some. I like what he and his staff bring to UD. Despite losing some good players to the portal, I see there is always opportunity to improve the team immediately in that same portal.

I’m still a firm believer that the team was ill prepared to start the season. I’m equally convinced that AG’s personal tragedy was a major contributing factor. I’m just not sure when the improved preparedness would have taken hold. I
suppose that it could have plagued the team throughout the year. I do hope that he recognizes it, understands how it led to performance issues, and, most of all, accepts that it’s ok.
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[Fudd]

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer I’m still a firm believer that the team was I’ll prepared to start the season. I’m equally convinced that AG’s personal tragedy was a major contributing factor. I’m just not sure when the improved preparedness would have taken hold. I suppose that it could have plagued the team throughout the year. I do hope that he recognizes it, understands how it led to performance issues, and, most of all, accepts that it’s ok. Posted via Mobile Device

Looking back, I think the personal tragedy was a significant part of this story. I don't like to dwell on such speculation about something so personal, but every time that I saw him interviewed this year, it looked and felt like there was a heavy weight on his soul. My heart goes out to him.

[shocka43]

Players play.

[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by Fudd Looking back, I think the personal tragedy was a significant part of this story. I don't like to dwell on such speculation about something so personal, but every time that I saw him interviewed this year, it looked and felt like there was a heavy weight on his soul. My heart goes out to him.

It had to factor in. However, many on this board think that we would have been in the tourney if not for the injuries. So if we didn't have injuries and did make the tourney, then the personal issues did not affect him?

[BeckysTXA]

Originally Posted by Fudd Looking back, I think the personal tragedy was a significant part of this story. I don't like to dwell on such speculation about something so personal, but every time that I saw him interviewed this year, it looked and felt like there was a heavy weight on his soul. My heart goes out to him.

We generally know when the tragedy occurred. What we don’t know is how long before that it was part of the Grant family life. There could have been many months prior to his daughter’s passing that we don’t know anything about, and we probably should not know the details. The point is AG could have been dealing with a lot for a long time and things got worse sometime between the end of last season and the start of this season. The complaints about the unfilled scholarship kind of tee me off. It’s not like the coaching staff wasn’t trying to bring someone in. But I guarantee if it’s between recruiting and a family crisis I sure as hope the coach has their priorities in line and the university supports those 100%. I’m inclined to believe they did. We should all turn the page and focus on the here and now and next year’s team. That’s the best contribution a fan can give to the program and help to bring in great players in this new portal-recruiting world.

[Hyde Park Flyer]

Originally Posted by CoffeeCan It had to factor in. However, many on this board think that we would have been in the tourney if not for the injuries. So if we didn't have injuries and did make the tourney, then the personal issues did not affect him?

Why would you assume that? How can you conceive of a situation where his personal issues did not affect him?
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[CoffeeCan]

Originally Posted by Hyde Park Flyer Why would you assume that? How can you conceive of a situation where his personal issues did not affect him? Posted via Mobile Device

They likely did. But if they won then his personal issues would not be a reason for a(nother) season that he didnt live up to his goals. He would be celebrated.
Instead they are often cited as a major reason why this season was a mess.

If they won then its a moot point. But they didnt and his personal issues are, IMHO, a big reason why he remains the HC.

[OSU Flyer]

@jakeweingarten

Following the dead period, Dayton transfer Mustapha Amzil will take official visits to both Memphis and New Mexico, he told @Stockrisers. He also finished a zoom with Grand Canyon’s staff prior to the dead period
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[The Fly]

Really figured he’d end up at Pittsburgh. They recruited him before he signed with Dayton, and he was scheduled to attend a prep school in Washington, PA, near Pittsburgh, before heading straight to college.

[AZFlyer85]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer @jakeweingarten Following the dead period, Dayton transfer Mustapha Amzil will take official visits to both Memphis and New Mexico, he told @Stockrisers. He also finished a zoom with Grand Canyon’s staff prior to the dead period Posted via Mobile Device

Grand Canyon makes zero sense unless he wants to go to a Christian school. GCU does have great facilities, but they play in the WAC against teams like Cal Baptist. He would have a chance to be the big dog at GCU.

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by AZFlyer85 Grand Canyon makes zero sense unless he wants to go to a Christian school. GCU does have great facilities, but they play in the WAC against teams like Cal Baptist. He would have a chance to be the big dog at GCU.

Nice winters
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[UDEE79]

Mustapha is a University of New Mexico Lobo.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/oth...co/ar-AA1aam0l

[springborofan]

Good luck to him. He always represented himself and the University positively.

[Buckleyma]

New Mexico has astoundingly good attendees at their men’s basketball games at 15410 on average. So, he will experience similar fan support Like at Dayton.
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[Fudd]

Originally Posted by springborofan Good luck to him. He always represented himself and the Universe positively.

When my kids were getting autographs in the pre-season, he took some extra effort to talk with them and entertain them. I was most impressed with him.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by UDEE79 Mustapha is a University of New Mexico Lobo. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/oth...co/ar-AA1aam0l

Wish him best of luck.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by UDEE79 Mustapha is a University of New Mexico Lobo. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/oth...co/ar-AA1aam0l

I wish him well, but I wish he was still a Flyer. Seemed like a good guy, from everything I’ve seen.
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