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Jacob Toppin to transfer

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Obi Toppin’s younger brother, Jacob Toppin, has decided to transfer from URI, source told
@Stadium. Averaged 5.1 points and 3.9 boards this past season.

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Toooooo Dayton? haha

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Yup....just heard it too. GO FLYERS.

He and Obi have been doing gym-time daily while at home.

And I thought beating WI in the fan bracket was the big news of the day.
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Is there a rule about transferring within the A10? I thought Andres Sandoval had to spend a year at a community college before coming to Dayton (from Richmond).
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This is like Deja Vu, all over again.


Yes there used to be a rule, the rule has been abolished.


I fully support Jacob coming to UD; while its unfair to think he can become as good as his brother, I think he could be a beast, especially with a year to sit and develop.


I'm sure the competition will be much stiffer than when Jacob was coming out of HS and he choose Rhody over UD and others. I'm guessing a lot of P5 schools get involved hoping there is something magic in those genes.


Good luck anywhere you go, but choose UD please
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Good luck anywhere you go, but choose UD please
We've got to think that UD is the frontrunner at this point, don't we? I mean, he had interest coming out of high school and the family already knows how well this staff meshed with Obi. This is going to be interesting.
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I don't think its going to be that easy.


Yes I'm sure CAG is interested, and I'm sure there have been conversations. But there are going to be a lot of P5 schools and coaches approaching Jacob and selling him on things that UD can't offer.


Whatever prevented him from signing with UD out of HS may still play a factor. If he didn't want to be in Obi's shadow (which may not have been the case), that shadow has only grown larger.


Still I'd take him in a NY minute.
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I don't think its going to be that easy.


Yes I'm sure CAG is interested, and I'm sure there have been conversations. But there are going to be a lot of P5 schools and coaches approaching Jacob and selling him on things that UD can't offer.


Whatever prevented him from signing with UD out of HS may still play a factor. If he didn't want to be in Obi's shadow (which may not have been the case), that shadow has only grown larger.


Still I'd take him in a NY minute.
Yes, other schools can offer him things that UD canít (or wonít), but UD can offer him things that other schools canít (or wonít). Things like a family atmosphere. Like 13,000 fans screaming support for you and your teammates at every home game. Like one of the Top 5 traveling fan bases in the country. Like a head coach whoís been involved with the development of 2 longtime NBA big men and a likely 2020 Lottery Pick.

A deciding factor will be, is he comfortable going to the same school where his brother became an All-American, or would he rather forge a new path? My answer: talk to Joey and Nick Bosa. My other answer: welcome to the family, Jacob (if you so wish).
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Is there a rule about transferring within the A10? I thought Andres Sandoval had to spend a year at a community college before coming to Dayton (from Richmond).
I have confirmed with an AD at another DI school this rule no longer exist.
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Old 04-13-2020, 02:08 PM
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Peeps, I know it was first posted here
as wishing, but I just had a feeling...

he wanted to wait until Obi went NBA,
and with others transfering, and Mama
watching games here and the crazy love
our fanbase has...

I was at least 80 percent sure jacob would:
transfer...
and then if done 90 percent sure it will be UD...

I didn't call it, but I had a very strong feeling...

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UD did EVERYTHING right regarding Obi’s basketball development, guidance, education, becoming the man he is today, etc. Grant was a big piece of that puzzle as well as the rest of the coaching staff.

Roni will tell you that everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. “ Uncle Vic?” also plays a big part as well as their dad. I have to believe they are on-board with Dayton. No one else in the country can say that.

The goal for Jacob now is to get to the NBA. He doesn’t have to be the next Obi, but Obi has said he is further along at the same age. And then you lay in our positionless offense, which is awesome if you’re a dunker. Their dad, Obi and Jacob all fit that role.

I like our chances. Sure the P5+1 will come calling, but I just don’t see anyone who can compete with Grant & Co. in helping this young man reach his goals. I’ll also add, not getting to play the NCAAs this year with Final Four goals leaves some unfinished business. Jacob might want to come in and clean up that issue for his brother...just for bragging rights down the road.

I thought this might happen next year. So happy it’s a year early. I think we will know sooner rather than later.

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Yes, other schools can offer him things that UD canít (or wonít), but UD can offer him things that other schools canít (or wonít). Things like a family atmosphere. Like 13,000 fans screaming support for you and your teammates at every home game. Like one of the Top 5 traveling fan bases in the country. Like a head coach whoís been involved with the development of 2 longtime NBA big men and a likely 2020 Lottery Pick.

A deciding factor will be, is he comfortable going to the same school where his brother became an All-American, or would he rather forge a new path? My answer: talk to Joey and Nick Bosa. My other answer: welcome to the family, Jacob (if you so wish).
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listen to your brother, who you are practicing with,
how did Coach Grant help him?
how is the fan base from a UD flyer point of view?

and listen to Mama....
and then come here, Jacob...

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I saw a tweet from a RI fan that said he saw it coming for quite a while. He heard Cox yell at his assistants during a game "I told you he was soft", talking about Jacob.

Edit: It was a GMU fan https://twitter.com/ByGeorgeGMU/stat...715664387?s=20

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I saw a tweet from a RI fan that said he saw it coming for quite a while. He heard Cox yell at his assistants during a game "I told you he was soft", talking about Jacob.
Itís been exactly 1 week since Obi officially finished his career as a Flyer, having won his final POY award. Iím sure the timing of Jacob going into the transfer portal wasnít by chance. One Toppin done. Hopefully the second Toppin coming. And personally, I hope he embraces Obiís legacy here and wears #1. Own it.
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I'm guessing he'll end up at P5 school.
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I think he could be valuable contributor here. I wonder if anything's changed from last spring on his thought process with UD
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He will have a list of suitors from P5 and everywhere in between. Not sure I love our chances, but I hope I eat crow.
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I'd love him to end up here, but I have a feeling he has access to advice from Obi's agent that might point him in a different direction. Or he may just want to take a shot at a power 5 school. Either way, I'm not as confident as I would've expected I would be.
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Highly rated transfers out of the A10 is not good for Dayton.
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I'd love him to end up here, but I have a feeling he has access to advice from Obi's agent that might point him in a different direction. Or he may just want to take a shot at a power 5 school. Either way, I'm not as confident as I would've expected I would be.
Yeah, these things rarely work out the way you want and anticipate them. Of course the idea that he might want to go a proven route with Grant is there.

So, stay tuned, is this situation going to be closer to Kenny May or John Paxson?
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Iím with Medford on this one. Kostas was drafted by an NBA team based mostly on his last name. Jacob may see a similar opportunity to bounce to a P5.
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URI board seems to think he wants a P5/Big East school. I hope Dayton's in the mix, but Obi's meteoric rise has greased the skids ... yes, for Dayton, but also for some higer-profile upper-tier P5 programs. I'd be delighted but extremely surprised if he becomes a Flyer.

Side note: It also would be a little gauche for him to transfer to a rival A-10 team. It might look like he's rubbing David Cox's nose in the dirt. AG may not like the appearance of that.

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I'm not with any of the above posters on this one...

I say UD

Kostas is not a comparison in any way, shape or form...

that young man had NO interest in college, period..

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URI board seems to think he wants a P5/Big East school. I hope Dayton's in the mix, but Obi's meteoric rise has greased the skids ... yes, for Dayton, but also for some higer-profile upper tier P5 programs. I'd be delighted but extremely surprised if he becomes a Flyer.
Again, him coming to Dayton along with becoming a star close to his brother is probably a pipe dream. However, if he goes to P5, he risks being lost in the shuffle of a coach who cares and spends more time with 4 star recruits and expects the cream to rise to the top rather than working the cream to the top. With Anthony Grant, he is bound to get the attention he needs. So I say there's a chance..
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One would hope that if he doesnít decide to transfer to UD that this board (and other UD fans) will be gracious about it. Probably asking too much from some Iím afraid...
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The known of what UD offers and what it did for Obi can easily overcome the promise of what could be in P5.

If whatever kept him from coming here originally doesnít do the same this time, I like our chances.

This though will likely not be a Ďno news is good newsí outcome.
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Side note: It also would be a little gauche for him to transfer to a rival A-10 team. It might look like he's rubbing David Cox's nose in the dirt. AG may not like the appearance of that.
Yep, that too crossed my mind. He leaves trying to preserve some goodwill by saying "Love you Rhody Nation". What's the point of that if he signs with Dayton? That's like saying "It's nothing personal" after shooting someone.
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One would hope that if he doesnít decide to transfer to UD that this board (and other UD fans) will be gracious about it. Probably asking too much from some Iím afraid...
Agree, unless of course he signs with VCU or SLU.
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I like that he will have a year to practise and maybe he will have the same growth spurt as obi.
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or maybe not!

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but to me he seemed more like a role player than future star...which might be why he's transferring.

He wouldn't be the first athlete to try and capitalize on his (brother's) name.
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but to me he seemed more like a role player than future star...which might be why he's transferring.

He wouldn't be the first athlete to try and capitalize on his (brother's) name.
Need I remind you that Kendall Pollard seemed like just a role player his freshman season?
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URI board blowing up over Toppin transfer news. Obviously no "dirty word" filter! Interesting projections for his landing spot: Iona (?), Dayton, ACC schools.

I didn't realize how decimated this makes their roster. 3 transfers. 2 big graduations (Dowtin, Langevine). Fatts putting his name in draft (w/out agent...yet).
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A gentleman who has coached at the college level and has been around HS & college hoops for 25+ years said to me, "Dad, Jacob is really good with great hoop skills and is only 18".

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Jacob is a nice player, and will eventually start if he does not shoot too high in the Big 5, but he will not be Obi.

Grant is a straight shooter. He would make Jacob earn it, and I am sure Anthony would tell him that up front, while others may promise unreal stuff.
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Need I remind you that Kendall Pollard seemed like just a role player his freshman season?
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the bigger question...

What the heck is happening at URI?
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Need I remind you that Kendall Pollard seemed like just a role player his freshman season?
Disagree, I remember specifically saying that Kendall was very raw but that you could see the upside in him and that I couldn't wait to see him continue developing. In fact I don't think he actually ever reached the level I thought he might reach after I first saw him. Some nagging injuries probably didn't help.
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Jacob is a nice player, and will eventually start if he does not shoot too high in the Big 5, but he will not be Obi.

Grant is a straight shooter. He would make Jacob earn it, and I am sure Anthony would tell him that up front, while others may promise unreal stuff.
I doubt AG would have to tell him. I'm sure his big brother has told him all he needs to know and that is no matter where he goes, especially if it's Dayton, he will have to work just as hard as Obi did to get where he wants to be.

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Disagree, I remember specifically saying that Kendall was very raw but that you could see the upside in him and that I couldn't wait to see him continue developing. In fact I don't think he actually ever reached the level I thought he might reach after I first saw him. Some nagging injuries probably didn't help.
Fair enough, but you don't see the same upside in Jacob?
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Fair enough, but you don't see the same upside in Jacob?
At the same age... not many people, outside of AG, saw the upside in Obi.
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I think a better comparison may be Devin Oliver. I don't think anyone thought Devin was a keeper during his freshman year. By the time he was a senior, he became one of my favorite Flyers ever. I think Jacob could improve in the same way.
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At the same age... not many people, outside of AG, saw the upside in Obi.
I was comparing to Kendall. My point was that most 18 year old freshmen look like role players because that's all they are at that point in time. Projecting Jacob filling out like Obi, having the proof in the pudding that if it's possible, AG can turn him into an NBA player, I personally see more upside in Jacob than I did with Kendall. And I thought Kendall had upside too. Though one thing's for sure, he will shoot FTs better than Kendall.
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but to me he seemed more like a role player than future star...which might be why he's transferring.

He wouldn't be the first athlete to try and capitalize on his (brother's) name.
Obi was not highly recruited. Coach Grant got him here, built up his body, and created an offense in which he could thrive. I would love to see him come here. Furthermore, is it any coincidence that this transferring notion surfaced just when they were spending time together?
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Fair enough, but you don't see the same upside in Jacob?
Yes I also see upside in Jacob, I was just commenting that I didn't think Kendall was just going to be a role player. I certainly think Jacob can be a double digit scorer for the rest of his career. Not sold that he will be as good as Obi, even if he is better at the same age, but definitely wouldn't mind him as a Flyer.
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but to me he seemed more like a role player than future star...which might be why he's transferring.

He wouldn't be the first athlete to try and capitalize on his (brother's) name.
Agreed. He was a 5pt per game scorer and rarely stood out (other than getting dunked on by his brother). Much like Kostas, if not for his last name no one would really be talking about this.
I donít see all these big name schools lining up at this point.
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Yes I also see upside in Jacob, I was just commenting that I didn't think Kendall was just going to be a role player. I certainly think Jacob can be a double digit scorer for the rest of his career. Not sold that he will be as good as Obi, even if he is better at the same age, but definitely wouldn't mind him as a Flyer.
lol, you have to understand, I used Kendall as an example because that is prince Rollo's favorite player.
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If he didn't pick UD with his big brother there to mentor him for a year, why would he pick UD now?! I'm thinking Power 5 on this one.
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Got to wonder what a year off and 25 pounds would do for Jacob.
It crossed my mind, since the brothers have been in the gym together for about 2 months, and I assume their dad and uncle Vic have been there with them at least occasionally, that they might have noticed Jacobís not progressed strength-wise like Obi did at Dayton. I know nothing about URIs strength-conditioning, but I know UDs is outstanding across a lot of sports.
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If he didn't pick UD with his big brother there to mentor him for a year, why would he pick UD now?! I'm thinking Power 5 on this one.
Seems a normal path to me. Signing with college and wants to carve his own way and it's time to leave the nest and be away from big brother. Not only that, until this season, it wasn't on the radar that Dayton developed Obi into an NBA lottery pick. Now the data is in. One, he wants to maximize his potential and can't see it happening at RI and two, he sees it can happen at UD. And, the best part is, he can do it the same way his bother did, without another family member there.
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Why is he P5 now?
Did he turn down P5 a year ago?
Two other URI trans went to Old Dominion and Mass-Lowell
Lateral or downward moves.
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Don’t know if this info is reliable, but when he signed with Rhody he was said to have offers from St. John’s, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech and Dayton, among several smaller schools.
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He had P5 offers last years, VTech, St John's and one other were in his final 5 along with UD & Rhody.


Forget the stats, I see a young man with a bunch of athleticism that similar to his brother has undergone a significant growth spurt later than most players his age. There is a ton of potential there. He's likely not going to be as good as Obi, because Obi was/is really freakin' good. I like the Devin Oliver example, I see a kid how could produce on a similar level as Devin in time. Give him a year on the bench as redshirt transfer, hit the weights, improve the stroke and there is a ton of potential there.


Kendall was never a great shooter, nor a great ball handler, but the thing that separated him from the competition, besides an outstanding heart was at 6'-5" he could grab a rebound and take it full force the length of the court and finish strong at the rim. He was way faster than most of the 4s or 5s that were covering him and he took full advantage of that. He was also pretty crafty and strong on the blocks. I think that is why that 6.5 man team did so well, every player on the court could grab a rebound and turn into transition points faster than the opposition could recover. All of those kids could fly.


Would be a nice couple of weeks to get commitments from Brother Scooch and Brother Obi
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Why is he P5 now?
Did he turn down P5 a year ago?
Two other URI trans went to Old Dominion and Mass-Lowell
Lateral or downward moves.
Being Obi Toppin's brother carries a little more weight than it did 12 months ago.
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Another factor could be team chemistry. Several posters have noted Fatts seemed to be more about himself than his team. With the mass exodus out of URI, It might have been more than Fatts. Then they ink the Mitchell twins. Their mom hasnít exactly been all about the team. Jacob was the last to enter the portal. Probably a tough decision especially since his mom has always liked URI.

Iím sure during Obiís first two seasons, Jacob spent time with the team. He knows the welcome heíd get from Jalen, Rodney, Dwayne, Ibi, etc. If youíre going to have to start over with learning to play with new teammates, heís got better relationships with the returning Flyers than the guys coming into URI.
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have no idea why one would throw shade at
Obi's brother..

he decided to go to Rhode Island first,
so it would be great for him to come to UD...

either way, I don't see a single person here not
being gracious, but we cannot speak for others,
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with that,
Jacob come to UD, bam!...)

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lol, you have to understand, I used Kendall as an example because that is prince Rollo's favorite player.
what did I miss??...)

when did Rollo lose his crown?

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He had P5 offers last years, VTech, St John's and one other were in his final 5 along with UD & Rhody.


Forget the stats, I see a young man with a bunch of athleticism that similar to his brother has undergone a significant growth spurt later than most players his age. There is a ton of potential there. He's likely not going to be as good as Obi, because Obi was/is really freakin' good. I like the Devin Oliver example, I see a kid how could produce on a similar level as Devin in time. Give him a year on the bench as redshirt transfer, hit the weights, improve the stroke and there is a ton of potential there.


Kendall was never a great shooter, nor a great ball handler, but the thing that separated him from the competition, besides an outstanding heart was at 6'-5" he could grab a rebound and take it full force the length of the court and finish strong at the rim. He was way faster than most of the 4s or 5s that were covering him and he took full advantage of that. He was also pretty crafty and strong on the blocks. I think that is why that 6.5 man team did so well, every player on the court could grab a rebound and turn into transition points faster than the opposition could recover. All of those kids could fly.


Would be a nice couple of weeks to get commitments from Brother Scooch and Brother Obi
OMGosh!!
can you imagine that!..)

hadn't even thought of that, but holy heck!...)

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what did I miss??...)

when did Rollo lose his crown?

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I have confirmed with an AD at another DI school this rule no longer exist.
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With the cost of officially licensed NCAA team apparel, this should be a no brainer for where his family wants him to go. They already have closets full!

We can dream, and ignore those (Rollo) who claim this kid will be nothing more than a roll player in future seasons.
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Rollo with a crown is the biggest example of fake news this country has ever fallen for.
durn!

I like King Rollo,
he's funny....

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durn!

I like King Rollo,
he's funny....

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Exactly, he's not a King, he's a Joker. And at times a Jack... j/k
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With the cost of officially licensed NCAA team apparel, this should be a no brainer for where his family wants him to go. They already have closets full!

We can dream, and ignore those (Rollo) who claim this kid will be nothing more than a roll player in future seasons.
You have to understand that King Rollo was the happiest person in Dayton the day Obi declared for the draft. If Obi had stayed at UD, Rollo’s kingdom was in serious jeopardy of being overthrown. It’s bad enough Grant is returning with hardware in tow.

Now this news about Jacob...no wonder he is trying to squash this before it builds up some steam...
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You have to understand that King Rollo was the happiest person in Dayton the day Obi declared for the draft. If Obi had stayed at UD, Rolloís kingdom was in serious jeopardy of being overthrown. Itís bad enough Grant is returning with hardware in tow.

Now this news about Jacob...no wonder he is trying to squash this before it builds up some steam...
Yep, heard he's been on the phone non-stop trying to convince NBA scouts that Jalen Crutcher should be a 2020 first round draft choice, for this very reason.
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He was just a roll player on a loaded URI roster and still managed to get minutes and be productive despite being a TRUE FRESHMAN.

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You have to understand that King Rollo was the happiest person in Dayton the day Obi declared for the draft. If Obi had stayed at UD, Rolloís kingdom was in serious jeopardy of being overthrown. Itís bad enough Grant is returning with hardware in tow.

Now this news about Jacob...no wonder he is trying to squash this before it builds up some steam...
Be careful, TXA, you do not want to **** off the King!!!!!!!
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If Jacob wanted to come to UD and be lil bro, he would have done it when he had a chance. If life was good at Rhody, he would stay there.
So, that leaves the fact that he looks at the situation at URI and has made a decision to transfer. One would believe that higher level P5 schools would be calling him now, and if he wants to follow Obi into the league he is going to go there. It is the best and safest route to get there.
Think about it, little brother wants to do more than big brother. (Yes, that is not possible when it comes to awards) but go to Kentucky or Duke, and you will be on a higher flight path... so to speak.
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If Jacob wanted to come to UD and be lil bro, he would have done it when he had a chance. If life was good at Rhody, he would stay there.
So, that leaves the fact that he looks at the situation at URI and has made a decision to transfer. One would believe that higher level P5 schools would be calling him now, and if he wants to follow Obi into the league he is going to go there. It is the best and safest route to get there.
Think about it, little brother wants to do more than big brother. (Yes, that is not possible when it comes to awards) but go to Kentucky or Duke, and you will be on a higher flight path... so to speak.
Iím not sure I believe this. He would get loads of press at UD. He got some press last year at URI because he was Obiís brother. At the KY-Duke type schools, heís a sophomore in programs full of great players in all classes.

If heís looking to up his national profile, (which I think is behind development and court performance) Dayton would give him the best shot. I know SportsCenter Top 10 would be looking for more dunks to showcase. He could get all of the above at UD. Iím not sure he will get the same amount of press coverage at a P5+1 school.
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Be careful, TXA, you do not want to **** off the King!!!!!!!
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If Jacob wanted to come to UD and be lil bro, he would have done it when he had a chance. If life was good at Rhody, he would stay there.
So, that leaves the fact that he looks at the situation at URI and has made a decision to transfer. One would believe that higher level P5 schools would be calling him now, and if he wants to follow Obi into the league he is going to go there. It is the best and safest route to get there.
Think about it, little brother wants to do more than big brother. (Yes, that is not possible when it comes to awards) but go to Kentucky or Duke, and you will be on a higher flight path... so to speak.
Again,there's a big difference in coming to UD and joining your big brother and transferring to UD to replace your big brother. When he made the decision to go to RI, nobody had any inkling of a Toppin going first round in the NBA. That has all changed and the fact is, Grant has proven he can be the coach to get it done. That wasn't proven when Jacob chose RI.

Not saying it's going to happen, but I'm pretty sure that UD has made itself a more attractive place to play for many since Obi set the world on fire, including maybe his "lil bro".
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A little over a year ago Jacob had his chance to go to UD but decided that another path would be better for him. Fast forward to today and he was come to the conclusion that he has made a mistake. He needs to answer a very simple question, "Do I take a chance again or do I go with what I know is a certainty." He knows what Dayton is. He knows that his brother loved his time there, became a much better player while there and is going to make a boatload of money after spending 3 years there. How does that compare to potentially playing at a bigger name school that will be almost a complete unknown. He has one more shot at making the right decision. I am a little prejudiced but it seems like a simple decision to make.
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Again,there's a big difference in coming to UD and joining your big brother and transferring to UD to replace your big brother. When he made the decision to go to RI, nobody had any inkling of a Toppin going first round in the NBA. That has all changed and the fact is, Grant has proven he can be the coach to get it done. That wasn't proven when Jacob chose RI.

Not saying it's going to happen, but I'm pretty sure that UD has made itself a more attractive place to play for many since Obi set the world on fire, including maybe his "lil bro".

That is simply not true. Jacob declared to Rhody last May. There were many people talking about Obi as a potential 1st round pick even last year, but definitely 1st round potential down the road. I think it was hyperbole at the time, but St Louis' Travis Ford complimented Obi during a matchup vs UD (May have been in Brooklyn) talking about he was a future lottery pick.


None of it was realized what this season was to come, but Obi as a 1st round pick wasn't a huge stretch this time last year. I think many of us on here though Obi would be gone after this year to the NBA, especially if he developed as much as he had in the year prior.
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That is simply not true. Jacob declared to Rhody last May. There were many people talking about Obi as a potential 1st round pick even last year, but definitely 1st round potential down the road. I think it was hyperbole at the time, but St Louis' Travis Ford complimented Obi during a matchup vs UD (May have been in Brooklyn) talking about he was a future lottery pick.


None of it was realized what this season was to come, but Obi as a 1st round pick wasn't a huge stretch this time last year. I think many of us on here though Obi would be gone after this year to the NBA, especially if he developed as much as he had in the year prior.
Oh good lord, can you see the difference between last May and now? Yeah, a few speculated. Now it's come to fruition. Nobody, AND I MEAN NOBODY, figured Obi Toppin to dominated the talk of the college basketball world for two reasons. They didn't expect him to be the player of the year and they didn't think Dayton could generate that kind of publicity for a player. Yes, we all thought he had NBA potential, but the difference between last May and now is about the same as our social lives then and now. Point being, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
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http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8491

URI board blowing up over Toppin transfer news. Obviously no "dirty word" filter!
Yes, there is no foul language filter on that board, so it is anything goes in that respect, which is different.
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He was just a roll player on a loaded URI roster and still managed to get minutes and be productive despite being a TRUE FRESHMAN.

He'd be welcomed with open arms from this Flyer fan.
He looks pretty good here. I know it's a highlights, but still

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If Jacob wanted to come to UD and be lil bro, he would have done it when he had a chance. If life was good at Rhody, he would stay there.
So, that leaves the fact that he looks at the situation at URI and has made a decision to transfer. One would believe that higher level P5 schools would be calling him now, and if he wants to follow Obi into the league he is going to go there. It is the best and safest route to get there.
Think about it, little brother wants to do more than big brother. (Yes, that is not possible when it comes to awards) but go to Kentucky or Duke, and you will be on a higher flight path... so to speak.
maybe it isn't so much wanting to DO MORE than
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playing for the national Coach Of The Year,
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so, there's that... to be fair...

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A little over a year ago Jacob had his chance to go to UD but decided that another path would be better for him. Fast forward to today and he was come to the conclusion that he has made a mistake. He needs to answer a very simple question, "Do I take a chance again or do I go with what I know is a certainty." He knows what Dayton is. He knows that his brother loved his time there, became a much better player while there and is going to make a boatload of money after spending 3 years there. How does that compare to potentially playing at a bigger name school that will be almost a complete unknown. He has one more shot at making the right decision. I am a little prejudiced but it seems like a simple decision to make.
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So if Jacob does come to UD and Jalen returns do they go to CAG and ask to be roommates?
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Jacob needs to develop. Go to some big p5 program like Duke or Kentucky. And he runs the risk of riding the bench if he doesn,'t have a growth spurt and does 'nt build his body big time. Dayton will give him play time while he develops.
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What the heck is happening at URI?
Rhode Island still hasnít recovered from that 17-0 Flyer start when they visited UD.
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I would put the chances of Jacob coming here at less than 10%.
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Doesn't sound like UD is in his plans

"Toppin is at his parents home in Ossining, N.Y., and while the coach has had extensive conversations with the promising big man, he clearly is looking to play at a higher level."

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I would put the chances of Jacob coming here at less than 10%.
Can I ask why?

Let's say you could get odds on what school he will transfer to, and you got 20-1 on any that you picked. What school would be a better bet than UD?
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Doesn't sound like UD is in his plans

"Toppin is at his parents home in Ossining, N.Y., and while the coach has had extensive conversations with the promising big man, he clearly is looking to play at a higher level."

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Well being ranked #3 in the country the Flyers are clearly at a ďhigher levelĒ.
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Doesn't sound like UD is in his plans

"Toppin is at his parents home in Ossining, N.Y., and while the coach has had extensive conversations with the promising big man, he clearly is looking to play at a higher level."

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I don't see that quote in the article you linked to. Am I missing it or did you get it from somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by NCkevi View Post
Doesn't sound like UD is in his plans

"Toppin is at his parents home in Ossining, N.Y., and while the coach has had extensive conversations with the promising big man, he clearly is looking to play at a higher level."

https://www.providencejournal.com/sp...ransfer-portal

That is in the article, but it does not quote anyone. It appears to be the writer's opinion .
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Originally Posted by Smitty10 View Post
Can I ask why?

Let's say you could get odds on what school he will transfer to, and you got 20-1 on any that you picked. What school would be a better bet than UD?
Jacob and Obi both said he didn't want to follow in Obi's shadow when he picked URI the first time around. I really doubt that has changed. There are many times brothers choose to carve out their own path, and this is one.
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Iím not sure I believe this. He would get loads of press at UD. He got some press last year at URI because he was Obiís brother. At the KY-Duke type schools, heís a sophomore in programs full of great players in all classes.

If heís looking to up his national profile, (which I think is behind development and court performance) Dayton would give him the best shot. I know SportsCenter Top 10 would be looking for more dunks to showcase. He could get all of the above at UD. Iím not sure he will get the same amount of press coverage at a P5+1 school.
Iím with you, Becky. At a P5 school (particularly a perennial Top 20 program), heíll be no more than a cog in a machine, and if he doesnít produce, heíll have a 5-star come in as a ď1-and-doneĒ to take his place. But if he comes to UD, heíll get the same nurturing that his brother got, with the same kind of support structure, and the likelihood that heíll have a guaranteed spot in the rotation if he puts forth the necessary effort and plays within the system. For that reason, I like our chances, and Iíll welcome him with open arms, should he decide to come here.
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While it would be great if he were to chose UD, he'd always be "Obi's little brother."

I could see where that wouldn't be appealing.
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Jacob and Obi both said he didn't want to follow in Obi's shadow when he picked URI the first time around. I really doubt that has changed. There are many times brothers choose to carve out their own path, and this is one.
While I think it more unlikely than likely, there is a difference in being in Big Bro's shadow and following the same path consecutively. Jacob very well may not see that as a difference.
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While it would be great if he were to chose UD, he'd always be "Obi's little brother."

I could see where that wouldn't be appealing.
If he gets anywhere close to Obi's output I think that goes away even at UD. I think he's going to initially get the "Obi's little brother" at nearly any school he goes to.

Well into his second year, I still thought JS's middle name was Sibert and his last name was 'The Ohio State Transfer'.
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I think a better comparison may be Devin Oliver. I don't think anyone thought Devin was a keeper during his freshman year. By the time he was a senior, he became one of my favorite Flyers ever. I think Jacob could improve in the same way.
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Malachi Smith and Jacob Toppin in the same starting lineup at the University of Dayton would be interesting!
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A little over a year ago Jacob had his chance to go to UD but decided that another path would be better for him. Fast forward to today and he was come to the conclusion that he has made a mistake. He needs to answer a very simple question, "Do I take a chance again or do I go with what I know is a certainty." He knows what Dayton is. He knows that his brother loved his time there, became a much better player while there and is going to make a boatload of money after spending 3 years there. How does that compare to potentially playing at a bigger name school that will be almost a complete unknown. He has one more shot at making the right decision. I am a little prejudiced but it seems like a simple decision to make.
Sure, he could ask himself where he could go, have a coach develop him (like his brother) and put him in a system, that will give him a shot at the show. But, brothers being brothers, just don't typically follow each other. Just like the Watt's and Golics' of football, or the twin brothers at Duke.

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I think getting rid of the transfer and sit out one year rule would be the end of college sports as we know it. I think to be fair, if the sit out rule is repealed, then coaches would have to be given more leeway to cut players if players are allowed to leave at any time without having to sit out. At that point, there would be little difference between college and the pro leagues, other than the pay.
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