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Since Zimi entered, he probably won't be the last sadly.

We'll start hearing about new potential targets/visits in the future.

Gotta find that Deuce replacement first and foremost.

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Is there still a limit on transferring twice in a row, or has that gone away with the advent of the portal?

For example, is there any limit on Santos, Bennett, Cheeks, and Jack since they just transferred?

Man when you list it out like that you really could make the argument that this year's team itself was built by the portal.
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Since Zimi entered, he probably won't be the last sadly.

We'll start hearing about new potential targets/visits in the future.

Gotta find that Deuce replacement first and foremost.
I understand why it likely happens but I'll be saddened by any that do leave.

I'll still support and wish them nothing but the best as all these kids performed at a high level despite the odds and respected their team and U in doing so. They are all a group of high quality kids but expect nothing less from an AG recruit.

The next couple weeks should tell us a lot of what will happen on our end. Exciting time to be a fan of the Flyers.
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Maybe a guy to watch... Providence 6'11" big guy Rafael Castro just entered the portal... The RS Sophomore never really got a chance in his 1st 2 years after redshirting... Only 8 MPG combined.

It was either us or the Friars coming out of HS in New Jersey.
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Maybe a guy to watch... Providence 6'11" big guy Rafael Castro just entered the portal... The RS Sophomore never really got a chance in his 1st 2 years after redshirting... Only 8 MPG combined.

It was either us or the Friars coming out of HS in New Jersey.
He has grown a few inches since high school. I remember when we recruited him as he is from "local" Dover (NJ) High School
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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Maybe a guy to watch... Providence 6'11" big guy Rafael Castro just entered the portal... The RS Sophomore never really got a chance in his 1st 2 years after redshirting... Only 8 MPG combined.

It was either us or the Friars coming out of HS in New Jersey.
When he did get chances this year he was generally pretty good. Very athletic, good finisher around the rim.
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A good number of people thought he would sign with UD out of high school. This kid is very interesting as a transfer.
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Chattanooga transfer Sam Alexis (@samuelalexis04) tells me he’s heard from these schools since hitting the portal:

Missouri
Arkansas
Florida
LSU
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Virginia Tech
Mississippi State
Georgia
South Carolina
Texas A&M
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He averaged 10.8PPG, 9.1RPG, 1.8APG and 2.1BPG this season.
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Virginia Tech
Ole Miss
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San Diego
Iowa St
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Monmouth
Providence
Maryland
St Louis
Columbia
Bryant
Richmond
Marshall
Eastern Kentucky
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Is there still a limit on transferring twice in a row, or has that gone away with the advent of the portal?

For example, is there any limit on Santos, Bennett, Cheeks, and Jack since they just transferred?

Man when you list it out like that you really could make the argument that this year's team itself was built by the portal.
I think the “No Sit” rule still only applies to the first transfer. I’m not sure, but I think that’s still the case.

And yes, consider where we would have been this year without the contributions of Santos, Cheeks, and Bennett. Better yet: don’t. Instead, savor the number of weeks we were in the Top 25, and savor our first NCAAT win in 9 years.
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I think the “No Sit” rule still only applies to the first transfer. I’m not sure, but I think that’s still the case.

And yes, consider where we would have been this year without the contributions of Santos, Cheeks, and Bennett. Better yet: don’t. Instead, savor the number of weeks we were in the Top 25, and savor our first NCAAT win in 9 years.
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The 5 veterans from the NCAA Tournament who could transfer to save John Calipari’s job at Kentucky:

https://wildcatbluenation.com/posts/...y-01hsv5krbr87

I'm sure you all can guess who one of those 5 is...
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The 5 veterans from the NCAA Tournament who could transfer to save John Calipari’s job at Kentucky:

https://wildcatbluenation.com/posts/...y-01hsv5krbr87

I'm sure you all can guess who one of those 5 is...
I love the hubris in this article! Regarding Marquette All-American Tyler Kolek, they say that he looks to be NBA-ready now, but opine that a year of playing for the Wildcats couldn’t hurt. REALLY?!
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Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel View Post
The 5 veterans from the NCAA Tournament who could transfer to save John Calipari’s job at Kentucky:

https://wildcatbluenation.com/posts/...y-01hsv5krbr87

I'm sure you all can guess who one of those 5 is...
Why would he transfter to Kentucky? The article just said that their coach hasn’t developed his players the last several years. Dayton had a good showing in the tournament.
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Well... I suppose Holmes could end up playing for Calipari next season if he's back coaching in the NBA.
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Originally Posted by hawkoooo View Post
Is there still a limit on transferring twice in a row, or has that gone away with the advent of the portal?

For example, is there any limit on Santos, Bennett, Cheeks, and Jack since they just transferred?

Man when you list it out like that you really could make the argument that this year's team itself was built by the portal.
There is supposed to be a trial this spring regarding sitting out after transferring a second time...I haven't heard anything about the trial date yet though.
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Second time transferring rule trial date info below, I have no idea when the winter and spring seasons end, the spring season ends probably around the middle? of June 2024?


https://apnews.com/article/ncaa-tran...bf0404eea00e82:

Bailey also canceled a previously scheduled Dec. 27 hearing and said the case would be set for trial no sooner than the last day of competition in the winter and spring sports seasons.
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X is having "fun" with the Transfer Portal - They have 7 players that have now entered it - including 3 centers.
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A couple of top players from Donnie Jones' Stetson squad entered the portal (they are both from Belgium)

6'11" C Aubin Gateretse... 11.6 PPG (3rd Leading Scorer) 7.6 RPG 1.5 BPG in only 24 minutes a night... 1, Maybe 2, years of eligibility remaining

6'2" G Stephan Swenson... 13.9 PPG (2nd Leading Scorer) 4.7 RPG 5.8 APG... Would a grad transfer

Maybe AG can look at them, we'll see

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Why would he transfter to Kentucky? The article just said that their coach hasn’t developed his players the last several years. Dayton had a good showing in the tournament.
Oh, I don't know.......$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$
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X is having "fun" with the Transfer Portal - They have 7 players that have now entered it - including 3 centers.
That is crazy. I have no idea how this is all going to pan out for college basketball. It might as well be a professional sport with unlimited free agency and no salary cap. Is it going to be fun hiring a bunch of henchmen each year? Will there be any continuity from year to year?

Who is contacting the kids in the portal about NIL money? The University is not supposed to be doing it. I'm really curious on how these $$ "negotiations" are taking place.

A coaching staff contacts a player in the portal. The player might be interested but wants to know what kind of NIL deal they can get. The coach then refers the player to whatever "collective" is working on NIL money for their team? And the coach is not supposed to be using NIL money as a recruiting tool? None of this adds up.

This all feels dirty. Isn't the reality that NIL deals are a monster part of recruiting now, and the coaching staff is going to have be involved in discussing numbers, even if it is "indirect" through outside-of-the-University parties? It feels like a black market is being created.

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I am not a Pitino fan, but I read where he said if they want to get paid, they should have to sign two year contracts to get it. I like the idea. Maybe take a page out of European soccer leagues and if you get a transfer, the one school has to pay a transfer fee to the other school. Maybe there should be some sort of "salary cap."I feel like it's OK for players to make money in the overly monetized world of college sports, but their needs to be rules in place. If they want to make money like the pros, treat them like they are pros. It would cut down on the nonsense. Imagine going to a player that isn't living up to expectations and telling them that the scholarship and NIL money is being pulled so the school and free up salary cap money for a better prospect. That would teach some of these young people some valuable life lessons.

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That is crazy. I have no idea how this is all going to pan out for college basketball. It might as well be a professional sport with unlimited free agency and no salary cap. Is it going to be fun hiring a bunch of henchmen each year? Will there be any continuity from year to year?

Who is contacting the kids in the portal about NIL money? The University is not supposed to be doing it. I'm really curious on how these $$ "negotiations" are taking place.

A coaching staff contacts a player in the portal. The player might be interested but wants to know what kind of NIL deal they can get. The coach then refers the player to whatever "collective" is working on NIL money for their team? And the coach is not supposed to be using NIL money as a recruiting tool? None of this adds up.

This all feels dirty. Isn't the reality that NIL deals are a monster part of recruiting now, and the coaching staff is going to have be involved in discussing numbers?
Yes, I have heard things such as such and such player from such and such school wants a big pay raise if the school wants him to return for another year/stay on the team, otherwise the player is going to enter the portal and transfer. We have de facto, pro sports-style free agency at this point.
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X is having "fun" with the Transfer Portal - They have 7 players that have now entered it - including 3 centers.
No idea where all this settles in at down the line. I am willing to bet that as long as AG is coach we will most years be well on the right side of the curve.
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X is having "fun" with the Transfer Portal - They have 7 players that have now entered it - including 3 centers.
There has to be something amiss if 7 players are leaving. I realize this is an arbitrary number but I would say any more than 4 entering the portal in any one year is a red flag.
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That is crazy. I have no idea how this is all going to pan out for college basketball. It might as well be a professional sport with unlimited free agency and no salary cap. Is it going to be fun hiring a bunch of henchmen each year? Will there be any continuity from year to year?

Who is contacting the kids in the portal about NIL money? The University is not supposed to be doing it. I'm really curious on how these $$ "negotiations" are taking place.

A coaching staff contacts a player in the portal. The player might be interested but wants to know what kind of NIL deal they can get. The coach then refers the player to whatever "collective" is working on NIL money for their team? And the coach is not supposed to be using NIL money as a recruiting tool? None of this adds up.

This all feels dirty. Isn't the reality that NIL deals are a monster part of recruiting now, and the coaching staff is going to have be involved in discussing numbers, even if it is "indirect" through outside-of-the-University parties? It feels like a black market is being created.
Agreed, and/but it's worse than unlimited free agency. It's unlimited free agency with no more than one-year contracts. At least in pro sports, you at least have multi-year contracts.
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That is crazy. I have no idea how this is all going to pan out for college basketball. It might as well be a professional sport with unlimited free agency and no salary cap. Is it going to be fun hiring a bunch of henchmen each year? Will there be any continuity from year to year?

Who is contacting the kids in the portal about NIL money? The University is not supposed to be doing it. I'm really curious on how these $$ "negotiations" are taking place.

A coaching staff contacts a player in the portal. The player might be interested but wants to know what kind of NIL deal they can get. The coach then refers the player to whatever "collective" is working on NIL money for their team? And the coach is not supposed to be using NIL money as a recruiting tool? None of this adds up.

This all feels dirty. Isn't the reality that NIL deals are a monster part of recruiting now, and the coaching staff is going to have be involved in discussing numbers, even if it is "indirect" through outside-of-the-University parties? It feels like a black market is being created.
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There has to be something amiss if 7 players are leaving. I realize this is an arbitrary number but I would say any more than 4 entering the portal in any one year is a red flag.
I would tend to agree, hard to believe that the coaching staff missed on that many players during the recruiting process. On the other end of the spectrum, you have Houston, where hardly nobody transfers out.

X does have at least 2 guys coming back from injury, Hunter and Freemantle, that might play a role, but still, 7 is a lot without there being a situation where you have a new head coach taking over.

I would think this will settle down more after next year, next year is the last year for those players that got a fifth year of eligibility due to covid, unless they redshirted, in which case 2025-2026 will be the last year.

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Did we recruit Jonathan Powell from Centerville? He's going to X. Hope he has fun.
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Tanner Holden of Wright State got more money when he transferred to Ohio State. He sat the bench for one year and then returned to Wright State.

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I understand that Nwokeji entered the portal. I understand that Elvis is leaving but I have not heard if he has officially entered the portal. Anyone have any news?
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I do not believe he has officially entered the portal. I also do not think he has officially said he's leaving. When he was honored at senior night, I think he was quoted as saying he had not decided if he was leaving or coming back yet.
I can't find Kobe's date of birth, but I have to believe he is about 24 years old. I assume he either has a degree from UD or will be receiving one in a few months. I don't see why he would want to stay IF he has aspirations of playing professionally overseas. If he does have professional aspirations, I also can't see him entering the portal.
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I can't find Kobe's date of birth, but I have to believe he is about 24 years old. I assume he either has a degree from UD or will be receiving one in a few months. I don't see why he would want to stay IF he has aspirations of playing professionally overseas. If he does have professional aspirations, I also can't see him entering the portal.
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There has to be something amiss if 7 players are leaving. I realize this is an arbitrary number but I would say any more than 4 entering the portal in any one year is a red flag.
Actually one more entered yesterday - now it is 8 former X players this year in the Portal.
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I think you have the wrong “Koby”. I believe that’s Brea’s DOB. Elvis’ DOB is March 16, 2001. He’s 23.
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I think you have the wrong “Koby”. I believe that’s Brea’s DOB. Elvis’ DOB is March 16, 2001. He’s 23.
As I recall, Koby Brea was only 17 when he began his Freshman year at UD in the Fall of 2000, so that DOB sounds correct for “Koby with a ‘y’”.
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Actually one more entered yesterday - now it is 8 former X players this year in the Portal.
Next question: knowing that we need size with skill to fill our most glaring need from last year (and presuming that Deuce will be in the NBA next year), would we have any interest in emigrants from TTDS?
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I think you have the wrong “Koby”. I believe that’s Brea’s DOB. Elvis’ DOB is March 16, 2001. He’s 23.
Makes sense. So I will restate my original post.
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I can't find Kobe's date of birth, but I have to believe he is about 24 years old. I assume he either has a degree from UD or will be receiving one in a few months. I don't see why he would want to stay IF he has aspirations of playing professionally overseas. If he does have professional aspirations, I also can't see him entering the portal.
Perhaps the NIL $ is competitive with what leagues in foreign countries are paying? The NIL $ may be a good reason to return.
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Actually one more entered yesterday - now it is 8 former X players this year in the Portal.
I am only seeing 7. Foster is an incoming transfer.

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I am only seeing 7. Foster is an incoming transfer.

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Lazar Djokovic is in the portal, and Trey Green is rumored to be next.
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On the Elvis topic, can foreign born players earn NIL money?
At one time, they could not due to some stipulation in Student Visa regulations.
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I think you have the wrong “Koby”. I believe that’s Brea’s DOB. Elvis’ DOB is March 16, 2001. He’s 23.
If people would use their last names it would be less confusing. (Yes, I know they are spelled differently but it is still confusing.)
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Perhaps the NIL $ is competitive with what leagues in foreign countries are paying? The NIL $ may be a good reason to return.
It's my understanding that foreign players are NOT eligible for NIL money.
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It's my understanding that foreign players are NOT eligible for NIL money.
There are some schools who have learned how to navigate these tricky waters and have been able to create an avenue for foreign players to receive NIL money.’
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Maybe one to watch

OSU sophomore 6'3" Guard Bowen Hardman entered the portal... The Cincinnati Native who played at Princeton High, never really was given a chance... Supposedly a really good shooter.

The last OSU Sophomore & Cincy Princeton product that transferred to UD turned out to be a pretty good acquisition I would say... so we'll see
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There are some schools who have learned how to navigate these tricky waters and have been able to create an avenue for foreign players to receive NIL money.’
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Dayton is one of those schools. Kobe ws quoted as saying it was because of his NIL that he could bring his mother and brother to Dayton for his Senior recognition. I know the Europe trip provided opportunity for our foreign players.

Kentucky took a summer trip to the Bahamas and played three teams that were not competetive in the least.
Reportedly that trip was all about allowing Oscar Tshiewbe to earn NIL money. They sold a travel package too. There were hundred of KY fans on that trip.

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Maybe one to watch

OSU sophomore 6'3" Guard Bowen Hardman entered the portal... The Cincinnati Native who played at Princeton High, never really was given a chance... Supposedly a really good shooter.

The last OSU Sophomore & Cincy Princeton product that transferred to UD turned out to be a pretty good acquisition I would say... so we'll see
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Not sure if this is 100% correct, but I think foreign players can "earn/get" NIL money when they are outside the US. So if you play in a tournament outside the US or the team travels outside the US, they can somehow apprise themselves of NIL money. This would be a great question for Neil.
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It has to do with active v passive engagements. It was in an old thread. Can’t remember the particulars..
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The last OSU Sophomore & Cincy Princeton product that transferred to UD turned out to be a pretty good acquisition I would say... so we'll see

Are you talking about Former Ohio State Guard Jordan Sibert -- the longest name in college basketball?


That still bugs me to this day. "Former Ohio State Guard Jordan Sibert reverses the ball to Smith, who gives it back to Former Ohio State Guard Jordan Sibert. . . "
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Are you talking about Former Ohio State Guard Jordan Sibert -- the longest name in college basketball?


That still bugs me to this day. "Former Ohio State Guard Jordan Sibert reverses the ball to Smith, who gives it back to Former Ohio State Guard Jordan Sibert. . . "
Thank God that was years ago...nowadays it would be worse:

Former St. Peters, Oregon and Hofstra guard Aaron Estrada just hit a huge three to send Alabama to the Elite Eight.
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Thank God that was years ago...nowadays it would be worse:

Former St. Peters, Oregon and Hofstra guard Aaron Estrada, and newly minted NIL millionaire, just hit a huge three to send Alabama to the Elite Eight.

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Interesting, X now has 9 players in the portal.
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Interesting, X now has 9 players in the portal.
Da f…..?!

Last one out, turn out the lights?
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I think we’ve passed X as a program.
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Interesting, X now has 9 players in the portal.
I think it might only be 8, looks like 1 is a walk-on.

https://verbalcommits.com/schools/xavier
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I think it might only be 8, looks like 1 is a walk-on.

https://verbalcommits.com/schools/xavier
Pretty ballsy for a walk on to enter the portal . . .

Also just looked on Verbal Commits and they have 54 open scholarship offers out there. By comparison. we show 15. Again, just interesting.

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Pretty ballsy for a walk on to enter the portal . . .

Also just looked on Verbal Commits and they have 54 open scholarship offers out there. By comparison. we show 15. Again, just interesting.
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Pretty ballsy for a walk on to enter the portal . . .

Also just looked on Verbal Commits and they have 54 open scholarship offers out there. By comparison. we show 15. Again, just interesting.
Yeah, I agree that it is interesting, I don't know what is going on over there. 8 is a lot IMO. 54 is a ton.

I don't really follow them super closely, but they are definitely followed by some of my friends, so I am aware of what is going on just because I hear them talking about it constantly. I can only handle so much college basketball, otherwise I get sick of it and burnt out.

I think they have Desmond Claude and Dayvion McKnight coming back. Freemantle and Hunter are returning from injury. I assume all four will start. I'm not sure about anything else.

So, that's 4 players returning to probably be in the starting lineup, 8 transferred out, there might only be 1 scholarship player left. But I thought I heard that they might have brought 2? more scholarship-quality players in as walk-ons and just gave them NIL $ to cover their tuition, room and board, expenses, etc. I don't know who those 2 players were.

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Yeah, I agree that it is interesting, I don't know what is going on over there. 8 is a lot IMO. 54 is a ton.

I don't really follow them super closely, but they are definitely followed by some of my friends, so I am aware of what is going on just because I hear them talking about it constantly. I can only handle so much college basketball, otherwise I get sick of it and burnt out.

I think they have Desmond Claude and Dayvion McKnight coming back. Freemantle and Hunter are returning from injury. I assume all four will start. I'm not sure about anything else.

So, that's 4 players returning to probably be in the starting lineup, 8 transferred out, there might only be 1 scholarship player left. But I thought I heard that they might have brought 2? more scholarship-quality players in as walk-ons and just gave them NIL $ to cover their tuition, room and board, expenses, etc. I don't know who those 2 players were.
I think both team managers and their video production guy are entering the portal as well . . .
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I think both team managers and their video production guy are entering the portal as well . . .
Lol, as far as I can tell, they have 8 scholarships filled for next year, so 5 open: Claude, McKnight, Freemantle, Hunter, Powell from Centerville, Foster, Green, and Swain.

In the age of NIL and no-sit transferring it is hard to keep up with what is going on with the all of the players constantly coming and going.

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One of the Alabama players I think I saw was on his 4th team. This isn't sustainable in the long run.
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Lol, as far as I can tell, they have 8 scholarships filled for next year, so 5 open: Claude, McKnight, Freemantle, Hunter, Powell from Centerville, Foster, Green, and Swain.

In the age of NIL and no-sit transferring it is hard to keep up with what is going on with the all of the players constantly coming and going.
Yep, people are overselling the dissension in Norwood.

As much as I hate em, that's actually the foundation of a really solid roster.

It's hard to wrap your head around all the coming and going, but with another piece or two that's competitive Big East team.
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Thank God that was years ago...nowadays it would be worse:

Former St. Peters, Oregon and Hofstra guard Aaron Estrada just hit a huge three to send Alabama to the Elite Eight.
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Yep, people are overselling the dissension in Norwood.

As much as I hate em, that's actually the foundation of a really solid roster.

It's hard to wrap your head around all the coming and going, but with another piece or two that's competitive Big East team.
Yeah my good friend is a fan of theirs and living in Cincinnati I hear and see a lot of their games. Miller predicted this mass exodus in press conferences down the stretch where I heard radio clips of him calling out his players saying many would not be there next year. With injuries I think they returned 1 player from their 22-23 roster and so he brought in 11-12 players i think. From what I have heard, all the players transferring out could not cut it. The ones they have kept are all legit starters in Big East.

This by the way is what the "Haves" are going to start doing. You will see 5-7 players sticking around, with the others seeing the writing on the wall or being told they are going to get over-recruited. With the portal, its too easy to recruit finished products than wait on a project.
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The risk is that you have a revolving door of guys who can’t cut it. No matter how you paint it, 8 guys is a lot to lose and replace. I would think 2-5 would be the target. UD replaced every player who transferred out with a better player transferring in. That’s the ideal, but it’s just unlikely to happen when you reach 8 players. It would be great if AG could get a yes in the next week. It would be nice to see them get some momentum!
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You don't need 8 great players. X has about 3 good ones, so about 5 more gets them there.

BTW NC St plays 7 and even 6 at times.
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You don't need 8 great players. X has about 3 good ones, so about 5 more gets them there.

BTW NC St plays 7 and even 6 at times.
My understanding and looking at their roster, they have 4 returning starters and there two best freshman from the past season. 2 of the 4 returning starters, are their two big men who started in 22-23 but missed last season due to injury. So they have 6 guys already set in their rotation it looks like, with Powell coming in from Centerville and any added transfers.

I don't know that I want this extreme of turnover, but I would like to see players 8-12 be better players on our roster. If you do what they are doing down south, your players 5-8 in your rotation is up for grabs with all of the recruits and older transfers fighting for time. They are making a roster of 12 players who they feel could all start. Then they let the competition for playing time begin and of course guys end up jumping ship.

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I think Tennessee had like 7 or 8 guys transfer out last year and they made the Final 8 this year. Just not sure guys transferring out en masse, especially in the P5 conferences, is that big of a deal these days.
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This by the way is what the "Haves" are going to start doing. You will see 5-7 players sticking around, with the others seeing the writing on the wall or being told they are going to get over-recruited. With the portal, its too easy to recruit finished products than wait on a project.

Totally agree. With annual (or even semi-annual) free agency, and the potential back-to-back national champion in your conference, you know what you're getting among the pool you're recruiting.



I think you're being too gentle though. Others will see the writing on the wall?? I think it's going to be more like "scholarships are 1 year deals, and NIL is for closers. You're fired. Stick around and if we have a clean uniform maybe you can practice with us, no promises."


The big conferences will just start pulling scholarships I think.
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It’s not a question of whether it can ever work out. It’s more about what is the best way to get the desired results. I am a believer of team chemistry. I would think that you would always want a returning core that appreciates what a program is doing and their individual roles.
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It’s not a question of whether it can ever work out. It’s more about what is the best way to get the desired results. I am a believer of team chemistry. I would think that you would always want a returning core that appreciates what a program is doing and their individual roles.
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It seems like there are teams every year that are getting the desired results with high turnover (see K State '23, Tennessee '24, etc.) so it might be one way to go.
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I think AG & Co did a great job with the portal last year. I expect we will again, but I’m also realistic. As much as I hate NIL, it’s now a big part of the equation in recruiting and retaining players. If you can’t bring yourself to make an out-right donation, at least consider buying your UD logo wear from the NIL store. And I agree they need some better merchandise. It’s way too “student” focused in design. They need to add items that appeal to the 30+ crowd. Anyway…

We still lost a player before the season - sorry can’t remember his name, but I think it appeared to be a personal thing unless others have more info they can share now. And of course injuries bit early to affect our roster. And we had a discipline issue too. I think all of that underscores and supports my first statement…we got an NCAA invite and win with less than the staff planned for, 3 of 13 scholarship players is a hit any year. One of the top 5-6 players was a hit. I really think that is the new normal. These coaches will be on a roller coaster ride for 12 months every year. They might get an exception once every 7-10 years. But mostly we will have to be able to develop players to maximize the talent on the roster because way too much happens to the roster you can’t control along the way, including players mentally checking out because they have the portal option in their back pocket. It will be interesting to see what the revolving door does to team chemistry. I believe UD/AG are ahead of most schools by instilling a brotherhood in the lockeroom and off the court. That has to help retain players and get more buy-in.
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