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Cunningham only 3/6 shooting and 3 rbs
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Toppin 15 pts, 8 rbs but 5 TOs and a missed FT at the end!
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Mikesell 2/5 FTs from out 87% FT shooter
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UnGolden Let Me Count the Ways Poll - VCU
Was it FTs? Turnovers? Poor shot selection? Coaching? Trey's injury? the White Out? Officiating? No bench?? Soooooo many UnGolden options to choose from, I hardly know where to begin!
Alas, I'll just name names and let my minions do all the work. A loss is a loss, no matter how you look at it. I just hope we get Trey back ASAP because I don't like what I see without him.
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Cunningham hands down. Senior leadership was awol today. 3 rebounds and some poor first half defense. For those of you who like that sort of thing, he was -14. One good hustle play all game.
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The guard play on the team isn't good enough. Obi and Josh cover up a lot of problems but better guard play is the difference between beating VCU, Mississipi State, etc. and where the team is at now
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Second-chance points aka defensive rebounding.
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All of em. Rebounding is a team activity and they were all absent. Obi and Crutcher have to cut down on the turnovers. Josh needs to bring some energy at some point. Man do I wish we played that in your grill on ball defense like VCU. Wishful thinking that this is a numbers thing player wise and we’ll be better next year.
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First Half Obi got my vote. Out of control way too often in the first half, zero effort on the boards in the first half. Loved his second half, but not enough to cancel out his terrible first half as I had made up my voting mind at half time.
The good news is, stick around three more years and AG will teach you how to play both halves Obi.
Here is to better times, Go Flyers!
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I voted the refs, but really, giving up all those offensive rebounds is the true cause for defeat
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Who voted for Mikesell? Seriously, many times he was the only one even attempting to box out and hit the boards in the first half.
Not sure which thread it was in people were dividing up our minutes played for next season, but anyone who has Mikesell less than 25 per game is crazy. Will wager multiple cold ones on this statement as well!
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Anyone listen to coach's post game remarks? He was saluting flyer nation and the players like we won. I love the grit we showed, but to get down 22 on our home court is unacceptable, regardless of the opponent. FT's & rebounding killed us. Josh can't possibly be 100%. Can't ask for more from mikesell, but even he was 2-5 FT.
Coach knows the expectations. This won't cut it next year; no moral victories. Likely to lose at Davidson. NIT bids don't come easy. I have no interest in the CBI or CIT.
Think positive. We know we can beat anyone in the league. Need a run in Brooklyn.
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3 votes for Mikesell. That is very disturbing!
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Lack of adjustments? You comeback from 22 down without adjustments? How can that be?
I saw lots of adjustments, but I saw a team shorthanded and physically mauled in the first half. You had six players including a point guard who cramped big time in the second half and started with two fouls early in the first half.. Not much maneuvering able to happen there.
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Not calling a timeout before you give up a 10-0 run to start the second half was a sin. I'm not a Duke fan by a long stretch but Coach K called a TO after giving up 6pts to start the second to stop the tide from swing away. And this team has lost more than one game at the FT line this year.
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I voted for Cohill. Maybe i am being too tough on him, but he did get 24 minutes today and it simply seems that game after game, I continually scratch my head with some of the plays, mental lapses and untimely, seemingly momentum killing turnovers/mistakes.
I understand he’s a freshman. But with 24 minutes played, what did he bring to the game? What was his impact? Stat line doesn’t say much. If he’s supposed to be some kind of lock down defender, he ****ed his pants on the final possession. I recal him somewhat looking over his left shoulder (perhaps for the screener) as Evans took 2 steps past him on his right.
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I voted for Josh because we simply are not getting enough from him. I hope the reason is because he is not even close to 100% but until I hear that officially we need more out if him. And I'm not talking about scoring either its all of the other things like defense, rebounding, finding open shooters, etc.
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Originally Posted by CT Flyer
I voted for Josh because we simply are not getting enough from him. I hope the reason is because he is not even close to 100% but until I hear that officially we need more out if him. And I'm not talking about scoring either its all of the other things like defense, rebounding, finding open shooters, etc.
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The guards need to get him the ball in the right spot on the floor. He works his ass off and the entry pass is always late and most of the time in the wrong spot.
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Policelli may have played the worst 3 minutes of basketball in UD history. I watched and rewatched whatever it was he was trying to do and in all honest would love to know WTF he does in practice every day! Because on the court, he's 100% lost. As is his cause...
Regardless, I voted for JDavis because he didn't do sh*t for 36 min, which is unacceptable. Big game, Trey out...and he's lays an egg. As did most of the rest of his teammates.
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That's a little strong and overstated Rollo... but not wrong either. Hard for Frankie to get it going in 3 measly minutes.
I keep coming back to JD. Coupla shots going in each game is all it would take to win back 3 losses. That's on him, as hes shooting 20% in all those bad games.
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Policelli may have played the worst 3 minutes of basketball in UD history. I watched and rewatched whatever it was he was trying to do and in all honest would love to know WTF he does in practice every day! Because on the court, he's 100% lost. As is his cause...
Regardless, I voted for JDavis because he didn't do sh*t for 36 min, which is unacceptable. Big game, Trey out...and he's lays an egg. As did most of the rest of his teammates.
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I like Jordan Davis and still think he could be a major contributor here but he's disappeared in too many games this year.
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I voted for Ryan because I misread the darn question and voted for the best Flyer of the game. My bad. The scary thing is 4 others joined me- I hope they misread the Q also...?
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Originally Posted by Columbia Blue
Anyone listen to coach's post game remarks? He was saluting flyer nation and the players like we won. I love the grit we showed, but to get down 22 on our home court is unacceptable, regardless of the opponent. FT's & rebounding killed us. Josh can't possibly be 100%. Can't ask for more from mikesell, but even he was 2-5 FT.
Coach knows the expectations. This won't cut it next year; no moral victories. Likely to lose at Davidson. NIT bids don't come easy. I have no interest in the CBI or CIT.
Think positive. We know we can beat anyone in the league. Need a run in Brooklyn.
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Yeah I get a little tired of the sunshine pumping BS. We we had a chance to move within 1/2 game of first-place, at home against probably our biggest rival in the league right now. Throw in a sellout crowd with a white out to boot.
And we came out and laid an egg for the first 26 or so minutes of the game. VCU played like they were the home team, we sleep walked. Had we came out ready to play from the start we would have won that game going away. No excuse for that crap. Oh boy we made a great comeback. Trophies for everybody.
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With the amount of floor time Davis has gotten the past two years, he can’t disappear like he did again.
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With the amount of floor time Davis has gotten the past two years, he can’t disappear like he did again.
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Agreed he was no where to be found on the offensive end for most of the game but who else was going to take his minutes?
Maybe we need to come to the realization that he's not a scorer. Next year maybe he only needs to play well as a defensive stopper. Just sucks that with the lack of depth this year we can't afford to have a player like that.
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I voted Grant because I thought the inbounds play was wrong. Setup a play for Obi to oop it and if it's not there have crutch in the corner for a 3. Did not happen
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The short bench and injuries have taken a toll in my opinion. Losing Matos early on changed the season. I get the feeling Josh isn’t 100% but historically UD tends to shield knowledge of injuries until after the season. Now we lose Landers before a big game... you kind of saw this coming, despite a gutsy comeback that fell short. Anything is still possible but without Trey going forward its going to get very tough. Really looking forward to a much fuller bench next year.
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I voted Grant because I thought the inbounds play was wrong. Setup a play for Obi to oop it and if it's not there have crutch in the corner for a 3. Did not happen
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VCU double teamed Obi on the last play. Two players hit him in the head on the play. With under a second left, a three point shot might not count. VCU knew and packed the lane.
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Don’ Care what Josh says it looks like he is 60%, his shots were blocked, ball taken away, no vertical leaping offense/defense. Free throw shooting ok.
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Too many Flyer offensive players lined up, or immediately cut to, the low block area on the last inbound play. When you need spacing under the basket, you start high and away, and quickly reverse spin, dropleg seal your man, get wide with hands up and ready to grab ball and shoot. The play was too congested, too predictable, too easy to read, and much too easy to defend. The whole world knew UD wanted to lob to Toppin; even the two NBC SPORTS ANNOUNCERS laughed about wanting to lob to Obi. VCU wasn't about to let that happen. Play stood virtually zero chance. That's a coaching issue.
And so too is the fact that Cunningham is not getting nearly enough low post touches. The staff has to demand and require that be a priority. UD guards are not being patient enough, and thus not waiting for Cunningham, Toppin, and/or Mikesell, to resetup, and seal their defender. You gotta wait for the double team to clear out, and for your post player to regather and call for the ball.
Realistically, there are very few teams in the country, and practically none in the Atlantic Ten, that should be able to beat UD'S frontline when Cunningham, Toppin, and Mikesell, are in the game together. They might not be 7ft and 275lbs, but collectively they are a heck a good nucleus...substantially above average. The staff has tell the guards to ride those three options in various isolation and high-lows, until the opponent/defender sells out, and leaves our shooters open and available for defensive release. Mikesell and Toppin shold be making a living at the free throw line. Cunningham should have 10 - 20 points per night.
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Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan
Who voted for Mikesell? Seriously, many times he was the only one even attempting to box out and hit the boards in the first half.
Not sure which thread it was in people were dividing up our minutes played for next season, but anyone who has Mikesell less than 25 per game is crazy. Will wager multiple cold ones on this statement as well!
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Whoever it was that red pipped this comment with "he needs to make free throws", you need to freaking learn the game of basketball. Yes, he needs to make free throws captain obvious, but shooting 75% from the field as he scored 22 points, second on the team in rebounds and assists, and a couple nice steals and blocks as he played great D offsets his only deficiency. Oh yea, was the only one consistently throwing a body on anyone to box out or set picks. Your clueless dude.
EDIT- Mikesell was also one of only three players with a positive +/- on the day.
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For my part, there were 3-1/2 candidates for the goat horns today: Cunningham, Davis, the Refs (1 in particular, actually), and Crutcher (the 1/2 candidate):
-Cunningham on the basis of 3 rebounds (and face it: if we held serve on the boards, we’d have won by 6-8 points, minimum);
-Davis on the basis of 1-6 from the field (and when a guy plays Shooting Guard, he needs to make baskets);
-Ref (the white guy) was inconsistent and/or bad for much of this game. His 2 partners seemed to be much more up to the task for a game of this magnitude.
-Crutcher on the basis of 25 minutes worth of not leading the offense as well as we needed to. I’ll give the guy credit for gutting-out the last 5 minutes, which is why he’s only 1/2 a candidate, IMO.
I voted for Cunningham, because he could have gotten 3-4 more boards if he had simply boxed-out like a 5th year senior should. And that would have meant probably 3-4 more points, in a game that we lost by 1 point.
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Whoever the douche bag was that red pipped this comment with "he needs to make free throws", you need to freaking learn the game of basketball. Yes, he needs to make free throws captain obvious, but shooting 75% from the field as he scored 22 points, second on the team in rebounds and assists, and a couple nice steals and blocks as he played great D offsets his only deficiency. Oh yea, was the only one consistently throwing a body on anyone to box out or set picks. Your clueless dude.
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Agreed. Without Mikesell today, this is a 15 point loss. And I know, a loss is still a loss, but that guy played his @$$ off today. If the whole team had stepped-up today like Mikesell did, we’d have won by 15. A vote for Mikesell in this poll today either means you misread the intent of the poll, or you’re friggin clueless.
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Anyone else notice that Jordan Davis didn't set his feet and square up at least twice yesterday when the ball was kicked out and he had plenty of time? The one he made he took his time.
Crutcher did the same but he made his... but with JD struggling he shouldn't rush his shot.
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I did not vote. But if I were to vote for why we lost i would have to vote Mikesell but not because he missed a couple of free throws. But because he did not sell enough popcorn at halftime.
Maybe Rollo ought to throw in another voting option. We could vote for Trey because he had the nerve to get injured before the big game.
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We lost this game because of rebounds. VCU missed 30 shots. We only got 18 of those rebounds. We gave them 12 second-chance opportunities. They only had to make one of those to win. Their shooting percentage indicates they probably made 5.
We missed 25 shots. VCU got 21 of those rebounds. We only got 4 second-shot opportunities. Shooting percentage indicates we probably made 2 of those.
Lack of defensive rebounds by UD (using stat results, not re-watching the game and tracking actual points scored after an offensive rebound) looks to be about a +6 for VCU. We out-played then in other areas of the game to make up 5 of those points but got out-rebounded by 8 overall. It’s were the game was lost.
On a secondary level, we could have tied or won the game with one or two more free throws made. But the core problem yesterday was rebounding. And if they were shutting Josh off the boards ( just like some teams game plan to take a shooter out of a game) then others have to step up to fill that void.
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Originally Posted by flyhi524
I voted Grant because I thought the inbounds play was wrong. Setup a play for Obi to oop it and if it's not there have crutch in the corner for a 3. Did not happen
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AG was wrong because he didn't run your play?
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I almost voted for Mikesell because I thought it was going to be a poll of who played best...then I read the poll question. I'm not voting--not casting any blame on a team that fought back the way they did.
Probably the best game by Mikesell in his career. A shame it occurred in a losing effort.
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I didn’t vote
I am Ok blaming the “what where and why’s” of a loss, but not the “who”.
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I voted Grant because I thought the inbounds play was wrong. Setup a play for Obi to oop it and if it's not there have crutch in the corner for a 3. Did not happen
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But two of the three options Grant drew up for the inbounds included a lob to Obi at the rim and Josh setting a screen to free Crutcher
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VCU is fifth in the nation in defense for a reason. The chances of us getting a clean pass to anyone on that last play were almost zero.
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From the replays, it looked like there should have been at least a full second, maybe 1.1 or 1.2 on the clock. Does anyone know why the only put .7 back on?
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02-18-2019, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan
From the replays, it looked like there should have been at least a full second, maybe 1.1 or 1.2 on the clock. Does anyone know why the only put .7 back on?
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It is when the ball hit the floor out of bounds. I thought it was .9, but I am biased. Did not matter, it would have been the same result.
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02-18-2019, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jack72
It is when the ball hit the floor out of bounds. I thought it was .9, but I am biased. Did not matter, it would have been the same result.
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From the replay it looked like it hit OB with at least a full second. With a full second, I wonder if Mikesell would have still only looked for the lob or would have tried passing out to Crutcher, who was wide open at the 3pt line. There was no one within 20 feet at least.
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02-18-2019, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia Blue
Can't ask for more from mikesell, but even he was 2-5 FT.
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Anyone saying he cost us 3 points and therefore cost us the game is doing their math wrong.
-At the 13:32 mark of the 2nd half, he went 0-2. We got the rebound, and on the ensuing possession we (actually Mikesell) made a layup to recapture the 2 points.
-At the 8:19 mark of the 2nd half, he made the FT on an and-1.
-At the 1:56 mark of the 2nd half, Mikesell was fouled and went 1-2 missing the second. Cunningham got the rebound and was fouled, and made 2 FT's.
So, while he went 2-5 from the FT line, his 3 missed FT's actually netted us 4 points plus a foul on VCU. Mikesell's missed FT's are the reason we had the lead going into VCU's last shot.
I'm not suggesting this as a strategy, just saying, anyone blaming Mikesell for anything more than a lack of concentration needs to recheck their math.
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02-18-2019, 03:54 PM
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Our shooting guards combined for a three point and two point basket respectively.
Not getting it done.
Effort from everyone except Mikesell for the first 25 minutes was a close second.
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02-18-2019, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Viperstick
Our shooting guards combined for a three point and two point basket respectively.
Not getting it done.
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Gazoo mentioned it in the other but this is to me is probably the biggest problem of the season. As good as Josh/Obi are they can't do it alone on offense
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02-18-2019, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Viperstick
Our shooting guards combined for a three point and two point basket respectively.
Not getting it done.
Effort from everyone except Mikesell for the first 25 minutes was a close second.
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Don’t think effort was the problem in the first 25 minutes, we just played dumb. We cleaned up things in the second half and only committed 3 TO’s.
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Originally Posted by Gazoo
Anyone saying he cost us 3 points and therefore cost us the game is doing their math wrong.
-At the 13:32 mark of the 2nd half, he went 0-2. We got the rebound, and on the ensuing possession we (actually Mikesell) made a layup to recapture the 2 points.
-At the 8:19 mark of the 2nd half, he made the FT on an and-1.
-At the 1:56 mark of the 2nd half, Mikesell was fouled and went 1-2 missing the second. Cunningham got the rebound and was fouled, and made 2 FT's.
So, while he went 2-5 from the FT line, his 3 missed FT's actually netted us 4 points plus a foul on VCU. Mikesell's missed FT's are the reason we had the lead going into VCU's last shot.
I'm not suggesting this as a strategy, just saying, anyone blaming Mikesell for anything more than a lack of concentration needs to recheck their math.
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That’s interesting because right after Ryan missed those FT’s my wife looked at me and asked, sarcastically, if I thought he was missing intentionally because we kept getting the ball back.
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Originally Posted by Flyer 86
That's a little strong and overstated Rollo... but not wrong either. Hard for Frankie to get it going in 3 measly minutes.
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I think it is becoming obvious why he is only getting 3 minutes.
Mikesell was the ONLY one that showed up to play for his entire time on the floor in the first half. He missed a couple FT's. That didn't get the team down by 20 and have to play from behind the entire game. Mikesell had a great game.
We can't afford to have any starters be inconsistent. Davis gets you 25 and 20 something then doesn't do much for a few games. That is tough. Right now Crutcher is trying to do way too much.
It is what it is at this point. Trey being out is a huge blow as I am not confident that Cohill can replace his efforts and leadership for an extended period of time.
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02-18-2019, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TA111
That’s interesting because right after Ryan missed those FT’s my wife looked at me and asked, sarcastically, if I thought he was missing intentionally because we kept getting the ball back.
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Right BEFORE Ryan missed those FTs, my wife noted that he was shaking his hand, like he took a stinger on the heel of his hand when he went down. No doubt, he was the one guy on Saturday who was up to the task from start to finish. And anyone who wants to find fault with his 2-5 from the line also probably would have found fault with LeBron when he was with the Cavs because he had 4 turnovers in a game where he also scored 37 points, grabbed 13 boards, and had 10 assists.
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Originally Posted by Flyer 86
That's a little strong and overstated Rollo... but not wrong either. Hard for Frankie to get it going in 3 measly minutes.
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I'm not asking Frankie to average a point-per-minute, nor do I expect him to score or want him to shoot, but is it too much to ask him to guard someone? or box out? or try to? instead of watching a shot go up and freezing while his man gets and easy O-Rb and 2 pts?
In all honesty, we'd have been better off going 5-on-4 in those 3 minutes of non-action by Frankie. Why? Because if he's not on the floor, the other 4 will know they have to adjust and play a little harder/smarter. With him on the floor, they are trusting him to do something that he isn't/won't/can't. I've played, replayed and re-replayed his minutes just to make sure I'm not exaggerating, and I'm not. He's lost. Royally.
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Originally Posted by Flyer 86
Hard for Frankie to get it going in 3 measly minutes.
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Seriously? What's wrong with coming off the bench in a dead sprint and showing, oh, you know, like you have just a little bit of energy? Not only does he not show it...he doesn't play with any urgency or as if he paid one bit of attention in practice. He takes his spot on the court and immedieately looks to an assistant on the bench as if: "is this where I'm supposed to be coach?"
Last I checked this is still D1 basketball and Frankie's on scholarship. And we're 25+ games into the season.
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I hate to hear that. But I guess for some guys, the HS game just doesn't translate to D1 for whatever reason. At this point, I'm not sure even the off-season would help.
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In times past when a guy wasn't getting the minutes he thought he deserved, when he was inserted into a game he would give it his all to show that coach how wrong he is for not playing him enough...the old "I'll show you" mentality.
Today its more like I'm entitled to more minutes and if coach doesn't play me enough when I get in I'm not going to give an effort and at the end of the season I'll just transfer where someone appreciates me and gives me the minutes I'm entitled to.
Rollo you better be careful, Frankie is only a freshman and some others on this board have been scolded in the past for being hard on a freshman. Remember there are snowflakes everywhere, even some on this board...
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I hope the 10 people who voted for the refs are joking. You can't go down 22 to VCU.
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER
I voted for Cohill. Maybe i am being too tough on him, but he did get 24 minutes today and it simply seems that game after game, I continually scratch my head with some of the plays, mental lapses and untimely, seemingly momentum killing turnovers/mistakes.
I understand he’s a freshman. But with 24 minutes played, what did he bring to the game? What was his impact? Stat line doesn’t say much. If he’s supposed to be some kind of lock down defender, he ****ed his pants on the final possession. I recal him somewhat looking over his left shoulder (perhaps for the screener) as Evans took 2 steps past him on his right.
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SLUFlyer: The old quote applies. The only good thing about a FRESHMAN is that eventually they are a sophomore.
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Originally Posted by Buckleyma
SLUFlyer: The old quote applies. The only good thing about a FRESHMAN is that eventually they are a sophomore.
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Fair enough......as long as that sophomore doesn't keep making the same kind of mistakes. Right now, I'm just not sure what exactly Cohill is bringing to the table (other than a warm body, somewhat adequate sub) or where exactly he fits in as the team takes shape into 2019/2020. I do trust that CAG will make the appropriate evaluation and utilize accordingly.
I've been around the game for 40+ years and still play at a fairly competitive level (barely hanging on at 46 years old) and one thing I've learned is that it's really hard to teach 1) basketball IQ and 2) decision making/evaluating on the court, particularly at game speed.
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER
Fair enough......as long as that sophomore doesn't keep making the same kind of mistakes. Right now, I'm just not sure what exactly Cohill is bringing to the table (other than a warm body, somewhat adequate sub) or where exactly he fits in as the team takes shape into 2019/2020. I do trust that CAG will make the appropriate evaluation and utilize accordingly.
I've been around the game for 40+ years and still play at a fairly competitive level (barely hanging on at 46 years old) and one thing I've learned is that it's really hard to teach 1) basketball IQ and 2) decision making/evaluating on the court, particularly at game speed.
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Cohill looks very much to me to be someone who is still trying to figure out his place on the team. Is he supposed to score? Just play defense? Relieve pressure from Crutcher? He looks like he CAN do all those things but is in his head too much, trying to think his way through what he's supposed to do next.
Frankie just looks lost. He doesn't even jump for rebounds, like he's forgotten he's supposed to go get the ball.
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