UDPride Discussion Forums    
     

Go Back   UDPride Discussion Forums > UDPRIDE SPORTS FORUMS > Mens Basketball

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-15-2017, 04:06 PM
Schraff01 Schraff01 is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 401
Thanks: 1
Thanked 98 Times in 57 Posts
Schraff01 will become famous soon enoughSchraff01 will become famous soon enough
Starting Lineup vs Wichita State

Here is the lineup that I would go with in First Round game vs. Wichita State:

G - Scooch
G - Cooke
F - Pollard
F - Williams
F - Cunningham

Need as much size up front as possible. Off the bench - KD, DD, RM and I would use Miller for his 5 fouls. If his guy catches the ball on the low block, hammer him. When RM is in the game, make sure there are two bigs to go with him so that he guards a small forward and not a post player.
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 03-15-2017, 04:19 PM
longtimefan longtimefan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,568
Thanks: 3,383
Thanked 6,617 Times in 3,024 Posts
longtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond repute
You can't change the starting lineup now. Just ask Smitty.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-15-2017, 04:32 PM
BeckysTXA's Avatar
BeckysTXA BeckysTXA is offline
Flyer Volleyball Superfan. Almost 8,000 Posts To Prove It.
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,439
Thanks: 5,114
Thanked 5,354 Times in 2,462 Posts
BeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by longtimefan View Post
You can't change the starting lineup now. Just ask Smitty.
Yeah I think only the king can do that. What you say Rollo?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-15-2017, 04:36 PM
UDGutter2's Avatar
UDGutter2 UDGutter2 is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Coldwater
Posts: 1,575
Thanks: 2,322
Thanked 1,206 Times in 542 Posts
UDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond reputeUDGutter2 has a reputation beyond repute
During a 9 game winning streak, I'd be reluctant to change it, after 2 losses I'd consider it.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to UDGutter2 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Buster Goode (03-16-2017), Smitty10 (03-15-2017)
  #5  
Old 03-15-2017, 04:54 PM
maddog07's Avatar
maddog07 maddog07 is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,417
Thanks: 65
Thanked 1,558 Times in 941 Posts
maddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant futuremaddog07 has a brilliant future
Playing KP and JC at the start is risky in that it exposes us too foul trouble by our only tow reliable interior guys.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-15-2017, 04:58 PM
Schraff01 Schraff01 is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 401
Thanks: 1
Thanked 98 Times in 57 Posts
Schraff01 will become famous soon enoughSchraff01 will become famous soon enough
Originally Posted by maddog07 View Post
Playing KP and JC at the start is risky in that it exposes us too foul trouble by our only tow reliable interior guys.
A chance in my opinion you have to take against WS in a one & done.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-15-2017, 05:03 PM
C-time's Avatar
C-time C-time is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,592
Thanks: 1,838
Thanked 2,451 Times in 1,244 Posts
C-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond reputeC-time has a reputation beyond repute
You don't start a lineup that has never played together before in an NCAA tournament game.

The only real lineup question is if Archie continues to start Kyle or if he goes back to Daryl instead and the rotation that worked before senior night.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to C-time For This Totally Excellent Post:
CE80 (03-15-2017), springborofan (03-15-2017)
  #8  
Old 03-15-2017, 05:06 PM
ClaytonFlyerFan's Avatar
ClaytonFlyerFan ClaytonFlyerFan is offline
General of the Air Force
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 8,040
Thanks: 8,801
Thanked 8,557 Times in 3,702 Posts
ClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeClaytonFlyerFan has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Schraff01 View Post
F - Pollard
F - Williams
F - Cunningham
.
Not a chance. 70 of the 80 minutes in the post will come from these three, need one on the bench catching a breather to keep all fresh.
Reply With Quote
3 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to ClaytonFlyerFan For This Totally Excellent Post:
BeckysTXA (03-15-2017), rollo (03-16-2017), Smitty10 (03-15-2017)
  #9  
Old 03-15-2017, 05:30 PM
AZFlyer85 AZFlyer85 is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 478
Thanks: 92
Thanked 337 Times in 182 Posts
AZFlyer85 has much to be proud ofAZFlyer85 has much to be proud ofAZFlyer85 has much to be proud ofAZFlyer85 has much to be proud ofAZFlyer85 has much to be proud ofAZFlyer85 has much to be proud ofAZFlyer85 has much to be proud ofAZFlyer85 has much to be proud ofAZFlyer85 has much to be proud ofAZFlyer85 has much to be proud of
I think we need Kyle on the floor as much as possible to bird dog their 3 pt shooting guards.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-15-2017, 05:34 PM
Smitty10's Avatar
Smitty10 Smitty10 is offline
General
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,642
Thanks: 1,559
Thanked 4,578 Times in 2,405 Posts
Smitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond repute
Yes, of course I go with the same starting lineup we last saw against Davidson in the regular season. Put DD in there for the first 2 or 3 minutes, if it looks like we need KD in there instead, start the substituting.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Smitty10 For This Totally Excellent Post:
C-time (03-15-2017), Gazoo (03-16-2017)
  #11  
Old 03-15-2017, 06:08 PM
AC91 AC91 is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Bucks County, PA
Posts: 2,242
Thanks: 3,251
Thanked 1,388 Times in 620 Posts
AC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond reputeAC91 has a reputation beyond repute
We are the higher seed an, despite the last 2 games, had a pretty good season going. I don't think we go with a desparate ploy to change everything because of this opponent. Personally, I think you go back to our winning formula: DD starting with KD off the bench and finishing. Go with our strength, get back to playing agressive D, sharing the ball, finishing and winning the 50/50 battles. With WSU's depth, we need to find another bench player or two to provide some quality minutes in addition to Josh.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to AC91 For This Totally Excellent Post:
BeckysTXA (03-15-2017), C-time (03-15-2017)
  #12  
Old 03-15-2017, 07:01 PM
224's Avatar
224 224 is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dayton
Posts: 416
Thanks: 239
Thanked 462 Times in 197 Posts
224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute
Go with the guys that got you here. Your seniors. Start all 4 plus XW. JC and DD first off the bench.

It will be interesting to see who guards who. I'd imagine KD is on Frankamp. Cooke on Shamet makes the most sense from strictly a basketball perspective, but that leaves Scooch on who? 6'6 SF Brown? Brown is their weakest offensive player, so it seems like somewhat of a waste if Cooke were to guard him. But can SS guard him? If not, we risk getting him in foul trouble with guarding Shamet or Frankamp.

Other thought would be Cooke guards Brown but sags off alot to help SS stay with Shamet.

Down low I think KP will start on Shaq and XW on McDuffie but I could see XW getting burned early, inserting JC to guard Shaq and move KP to McDuffie. I think KP can contain McDuffie similar to how he did Peyton Aldridge. Key then becomes foul trouble and endurance with JC. A lot of factors.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to 224 For This Totally Excellent Post:
FLYER5 (03-15-2017)
  #13  
Old 03-15-2017, 07:33 PM
Schraff01 Schraff01 is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 401
Thanks: 1
Thanked 98 Times in 57 Posts
Schraff01 will become famous soon enoughSchraff01 will become famous soon enough
That's why I like my lineup. Scooch takes Shamet and Cooke has Frankamp and the 3 bigs take their 3 bigs.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-15-2017, 07:36 PM
Smitty10's Avatar
Smitty10 Smitty10 is offline
General
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,642
Thanks: 1,559
Thanked 4,578 Times in 2,405 Posts
Smitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond reputeSmitty10 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Schraff01 View Post
That's why I like my lineup. Scooch takes Shamet and Cooke has Frankamp and the 3 bigs take their 3 bigs.
What happens when Pollard and Cunningham draw 2 quick fouls each?
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to Smitty10 For This Totally Excellent Post:
C-time (03-15-2017)
  #15  
Old 03-15-2017, 10:44 PM
Jeff Jeff is offline
General
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: PHL
Posts: 5,740
Thanks: 2,603
Thanked 2,337 Times in 1,410 Posts
Jeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond reputeJeff has a reputation beyond repute
G - Scooch
G - Cooke
G - D. Davis
F - Pollard
F - Williams

It works.
Reply With Quote
4 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Jeff For This Totally Excellent Post:
AC91 (03-16-2017), C-time (03-16-2017), MrFlyerFanatic (03-16-2017), UDGutter2 (03-16-2017)
  #16  
Old 03-16-2017, 12:52 AM
T-Bone 84's Avatar
T-Bone 84 T-Bone 84 is offline
General of the Air Force
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shiloh, OH
Posts: 8,411
Thanks: 2,350
Thanked 4,994 Times in 2,668 Posts
T-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
G - Scooch
G - Cooke
G - D. Davis
F - Pollard
F - Williams

It works.
And it worked for 9 games in a row before Senior Night. Kyle brings energy & defense. Best to bring him off the bench to disrupt WSU once they think they've found a comfort zone.

Also, I think we're going to need some good minutes from Sam in this one, to counter Morris's size. If we get the Sam that showed up when we played at Vandy last year, that would good.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to T-Bone 84 For This Totally Excellent Post:
AC91 (03-16-2017), C-time (03-16-2017)
  #17  
Old 03-16-2017, 07:34 AM
rollo's Avatar
rollo rollo is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: RolloCon
Posts: 16,550
Thanks: 16,234
Thanked 15,873 Times in 6,980 Posts
rollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond reputerollo has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by BeckysTXA View Post
Yeah I think only the king can do that. What you say Rollo?
The King says 'if it aint broketh, don't fixeth it'.

So let it be written.

So let it be done.
__________________
I shaved my balls for this?
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to rollo For This Totally Excellent Post:
AC91 (03-16-2017)
  #18  
Old 03-16-2017, 08:37 AM
Gazoo's Avatar
Gazoo Gazoo is offline
General
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 6,563
Thanks: 5,144
Thanked 5,432 Times in 2,372 Posts
Gazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Smitty10 View Post
What happens when Pollard and Cunningham draw 2 quick fouls each?
It seems to me that there is no bending of the space-time continuum based on who starts. If Pollard gets 2 fouls in 2 minutes = 2 defensive possessions, and you bring in Cunningham and he gets 2 fouls in 2 minutes = 2 defensive possessions, that's 4 fouls in 4 minutes = 4 defensive possessions.

If you start KP and bring Cunningham off the bench after 2 minutes, and Cunningham picks up 2 fouls in the next 2 minutes, you've still got 4 fouls after 4 minutes = 4 defensive possessions.

Now unless WSU figures out a way to double the number of offensive possessions they have without time running off the clock (possibly 2 balls on the court at the same time??) then I don't think it matters.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-16-2017, 09:50 AM
224's Avatar
224 224 is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dayton
Posts: 416
Thanks: 239
Thanked 462 Times in 197 Posts
224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute224 has a reputation beyond repute
Another interesting angle is how they match up with us on D. Our 3 guard set could create matchup problems for them. Their guards apparently struggle to guard 'quick' guards, so I think that's a major advantage to us considering scoochies ability to shift and get to the basket. I could also see this being a big game for KD if he can force a few turnovers and grab a few buckets in transition. X can stretch the floor leaving Pollard 1 on 1 down low with Shaq -- I like our proven senior in that scenario all day.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-16-2017, 10:07 AM
BeckysTXA's Avatar
BeckysTXA BeckysTXA is offline
Flyer Volleyball Superfan. Almost 8,000 Posts To Prove It.
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,439
Thanks: 5,114
Thanked 5,354 Times in 2,462 Posts
BeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond reputeBeckysTXA has a reputation beyond repute
It's not like we haven't beaten muscle inside recently. (VCU)

We've got to show up and play like there's no tomorrow for all 40 minutes...because that's exactly where we are.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to BeckysTXA For This Totally Excellent Post:
AC91 (03-16-2017), rollo (03-16-2017)
  #21  
Old 03-16-2017, 10:39 AM
priceg75's Avatar
priceg75 priceg75 is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Miami Twp.
Posts: 3,342
Thanks: 268
Thanked 2,234 Times in 1,038 Posts
priceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond reputepriceg75 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Smitty10 View Post
What happens when Pollard and Cunningham draw 2 quick fouls each?
Step 1 - Start all 3 reliable forwards.
Step 2 - Early foul trouble.
Step 3 - ??????
Step 4 - Profit!
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to priceg75 For This Totally Excellent Post:
m21eagle45 (03-16-2017)
  #22  
Old 03-16-2017, 10:57 AM
MrFlyerFanatic's Avatar
MrFlyerFanatic MrFlyerFanatic is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Oregon District
Posts: 2,661
Thanks: 1,924
Thanked 2,206 Times in 972 Posts
MrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond reputeMrFlyerFanatic has a reputation beyond repute
Thumbs up Mental

Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
G - Scooch
G - Cooke
G - D. Davis
F - Pollard
F - Williams

It works.
Good for Baby D's mental state. In the last 3 games off the bench, his offense seemed to disappear.
__________________
Be the reason that someone SMILES today.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-16-2017, 11:58 AM
UDTradition UDTradition is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: NJ
Posts: 625
Thanks: 759
Thanked 407 Times in 203 Posts
UDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant futureUDTradition has a brilliant future
Like others, I also think that we need to establish a defensive presence in the opening minutes. If KD is not disrupting their offense, then substitute quickly.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-16-2017, 12:04 PM
Gazoo's Avatar
Gazoo Gazoo is offline
General
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 6,563
Thanks: 5,144
Thanked 5,432 Times in 2,372 Posts
Gazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond reputeGazoo has a reputation beyond repute
Changing your lineup in the most important game of the year = over coaching. Don't do it. Maybe replacing DD because you've got a history with it, but you don't stick 1 or 2 new people in the starting lineup.

You be you, and make them adjust to you because you're so good at it. Adjustments should be minor.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement System V2.6 By   Branden

     
 
Copyright 1996-2012 UDPride.com. All Rights Reserved.